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El-Gonzo Jackson
10-27-2008, 11:23 AM
Lots of talk about why we cant have a backup long snapper, so I thought I would post how to long snap and some of you can try it out to see if its easy or not . :chuckle: If anybody cares?

1. Grab the football like you are going to throw a pass with the fingers of your right hand (I'm assuming a right handed athlete) on the laces.

2. Take your left hand and using the middle finger, place it on the seam of the football exactly opposite the laces on the football. The tip of your finger should be approx 3 inches from the tip of the football.

3. now with 2 hands on the ball, spread your feet approx a yard apart (like you see long snappers do) and bend over with the ball on the ground.

4. Finally, look between your legs and "snap" the football. Make sure to follow thru with your hands back towards where the punter would be.

It isnt easy, but with some practice it can be mastered and really isnt rocket science.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-27-2008, 11:50 AM
Lots of talk about why we cant have a backup long snapper, so I thought I would post how to long snap and some of you can try it out to see if its easy or not . :chuckle: If anybody cares?

1. Grab the football like you are going to throw a pass with the fingers of your right hand (I'm assuming a right handed athlete) on the laces.

2. Take your left hand and using the middle finger, place it on the seam of the football exactly opposite the laces on the football. The tip of your finger should be approx 3 inches from the tip of the football.

3. now with 2 hands on the ball, spread your feet approx a yard apart (like you see long snappers do) and bend over with the ball on the ground.

4. Finally, look between your legs and "snap" the football. Make sure to follow thru with your hands back towards where the punter would be.

It isnt easy, but with some practice it can be mastered and really isnt rocket science.

I posted in the other thread that Legursky actually does long-snap....here is the article.

http://marshall.scout.com/2/750840.html

steelreserve
10-27-2008, 11:51 AM
I plan on doing this drill naked, and seeing how many people I scare/how long it takes before the cops come.

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-27-2008, 12:10 PM
I plan on doing this drill naked, and seeing how many people I scare/how long it takes before the cops come.

:rofl:

Reminds me of a Tim Allen standup comedy routine where he says "when god create man he had a leftover piece of elbow skin and just put it on man's stones". Tim was bending over naked and running the bathtub, then his wife walked in while he was putting in the plug and she was scared off by his "elbow skin".

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-27-2008, 12:38 PM
Here is a video.

http://www.longsnapper.com/snap.html

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-27-2008, 02:40 PM
Here is a video.

http://www.longsnapper.com/snap.html

I am afraid to open the link.....in fear that it is of steelreserve snapping the ball...naked.

Steeler in Carolina
10-27-2008, 06:44 PM
If posted correctly, here's who Legursky practiced with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK11WK2aVQE

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-27-2008, 06:58 PM
If posted correctly, here's who Legursky practiced with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK11WK2aVQE


Yeah, that stuff is cool. I remember some 15 years ago watching a piece done by NBC where the long snapper from the Bengals was knocking coffee cups off pylons and doing the same moving car window snap as Bartrum.

Its a skill and hopefully Legursky can get some reps next season in the preseason.....but I would want a guy with game experience for a 5-2 team.

Glace
11-02-2008, 09:23 AM
I long-snapped in high school. It really isn't THAT difficult. I'll just say that you need to get a lot of reps in to be consistent.

I'll just chalk it up to Harrison not taking many reps with it. On top of that he was flinging offensive linemen around all night, then had to throw this dinky little football. lol.

It was like practicing for spring track shot put with a 16 pounder....so when you threw the 12 pounder, it felt light!

stillers4me
11-02-2008, 10:36 AM
I'm just thankful we found one........ I had visions of Tomlin holding auditions with current team members all week. :chuckle:


By Scott Brown
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, November 2, 2008




A long snapper is sort of like an extra in a movie.

Nobody notices you until you sneeze during one of Brad Pitt's lines.

As such, it took an injury to Steelers long snapper Greg Warren followed by an ill-fated snap by James Harrison, his emergency replacement, to bring attention to the position and the highly specialized skill it requires.


"I think," Steelers kicker Jeff Reed said, "there's a little more respect for long snappers now."

Indeed, Harrison, the Pro Bowl linebacker, has snapped flawlessly time and time again in practice. When he had to do it in the crucible of a close game, his snap sailed over punter Mitch Berger's head and resulted in a critical safety. Yet, after the Steelers lost, 21-14, to the New York Giants this past Sunday, coach Mike Tomlin and Harrison's teammates applauded him for volunteering to long snap.

The job is a rather thankless one, and football specialists say it is much more difficult than it looks.

Reed likens long snapping to the decidedly unnatural act of throwing a pass backward while you are upside down. And when asked why centers' skills of snapping to the quarterback in the shotgun don't always translate into them successfully long snapping, Tomlin delivered a dissertation on the subject.

"I can take a tackle and put him at center, and he's got a better chance of executing a shotgun snap than he does executing a regular center-to-quarterback exchange," Tomlin said. "The distance is so short, and the degree of accuracy that is required is not very high. When you're talking about snapping a punt, velocity is important, accuracy is important, total time of execution is important."

The distance of long snapping -- it is generally 7 or 8 yards for field goal and extra-point attempts and 13 yards for punts -- brings elements such as the wind into play. The margin for error, meanwhile, is minimal. That is especially true on field goals and extra points since long snappers are aiming at a holder whose mobility is compromised by the fact that he is sitting on one knee.

There is also much more technique involved in long snapping than the shotgun snap.

Two hands are required for the long snap as one hand pushes the ball while the other one guides it. Toes, meanwhile, have to be pointed out -- picture them aimed near the 1 and the 11 on a clock -- so the knees follow and don't block a snapper's arms as he hikes the ball.

"I don't think anybody knows how hard it is," said linebacker James Farrior, the Steelers' emergency, emergency snapper.

If there is a science to long snapping, there isn't always a science to finding a capable long snapper.

Jared Retkofsky, whom the Steelers signed this past week to replace Warren, learned that the first day he reported for football practice at Texas Christian University.

"They had the whole freshman class bend over and start snapping footballs, and the special-teams coach just started walking down the line and said 'You're fired, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired. OK, you stay. You're fired, you're fired, you're fired,' " Retkofsky said. "Then, kind of by default, I was the only guy who could snap."

Penn State once found a long snapper among its team managers.

During a practice in the late 1980s, assistant coach Bob Phillips asked Bob Ceh to stand at the line of scrimmage and simulate a snap by throwing passes back to the punter.

Ceh (pronounced check) had played football at Northgate High School, and he had started long snapping as a middle schooler after his father, Earl, a longtime coach said, "Bob, if you want to play, learn how to do it."

Ceh told Phillips he could better serve the punters by snapping to them.

"I had absolutely no intentions of it going anywhere," Ceh said, "just helping out."

The Nittany Lions needed a long snapper a year later after they suspended their regular one, and they turned to Ceh. He long snapped for the Nittany Lions from 1990-92, earned a full scholarship in the process and figured prominently in one of the most memorable plays in Penn State history. That would be Craig Fayak's 34-yard goal that delivered a 24-21 upset of No. 1 Notre Dame in 1990.

The game-winning kick would not have been possible without Ceh's accurate snap.

Despite his success at Penn State, Ceh never pursued long snapping beyond college. He didn't hire an agent, figuring that he had played at a high-profile enough school for NFL teams to find him if they needed a long snapper.

"Don't know if I could have done it," said Ceh, who is an assistant football coach at North Allegheny and the dean of students at Seneca Valley. "I never thought I'd be doing this on Sundays or making a living doing this."

Ceh said he doesn't have any regrets, but reliable long snappers can make a nice living if they are able to break into the NFL.

Take David Binn.

He is in his 15th season with San Diego and is the franchise's leader in games played (231). Binn has been with the Chargers for so long that he snapped when they played in the 1995 Super Bowl.

The 2007 Pro Bowler is far from the only long snapper who has enjoyed a lengthy career. Fourteen long snappers that are on NFL rosters -- and no team keeps more than one -- are in at least their eighth season at football's highest level.

"You stay healthy, you can do this for 15 years," said Retkofsky, who will make his NFL debut Monday against the Washington Redskins.

Retkofsky, who spent parts of the past two training camps with the Steelers, working for a moving company in Forth Worth, Texas, and making $15 an hour. Sensing that his dreams of playing in the NFL were slipping away, he started applying to various police academies and preparing for his post-football life.

All of that was put on hold after Warren called Retkofsky this past Sunday night and told him that his agent needed to get in touch with the Steelers.

Now it is up to Retkofsky to do something with the lifeline that fate tossed him.

Assuming Warren makes a full recovery from reconstructive knee surgery, he will return as the Steelers' long snapper next season. That means Retkofsky is effectively auditioning for the rest of the NFL teams.

Retkofsky knows as well as anyone that the best way to get noticed is to stay as anonymous as possible in Pittsburgh.

Such a paradox is reality for long snappers.

Fair or not, they are defined by their mistakes -- and given pink slips because of them -- since an errant snap is frequently a game-turning play.

"That's cool with me if nobody knows my name," Retkofsky said. "That means I'm doing my job."


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_596384.html

The Duke
11-02-2008, 11:08 AM
I long-snapped in high school. It really isn't THAT difficult. I'll just say that you need to get a lot of reps in to be consistent.

I'll just chalk it up to Harrison not taking many reps with it.

While it may not be difficult, I think the problem is not only james doesn't do that every game, but the fear of failing your team in that very important situation can take over you

Harrison was very courageous in going out there to attempt the snap and we should all thank him, even if the results weren't good.

Retfosky is doing his job so it's gotta be easier for him

hopefully he goes to the pro bowl :flap:

xfl2001fan
11-02-2008, 11:20 AM
hopefully he goes to the pro bowl :flap:

You :flap: like it's not possible, but the Browns had our long snapper hand selected by the AFC Pro Bowl coaching staff to go to the Pro Bowl for that specific purpose last year.

Reliable Long Snappers have gotten a little more attention around the league for the very reason you guys suffered last week.

stillers4me
11-02-2008, 11:47 AM
I don't hold it against James at all.

Thanks for trying, buddy. Now forget about it and go back to tearing some heads off. :chuckle:

MasterOfPuppets
11-02-2008, 12:41 PM
I posted in the other thread that Legursky actually does long-snap....here is the article.

http://marshall.scout.com/2/750840.html
he must not be any good at it....:noidea: wouldn't a guy on the PS , have first shot at the job?

Galax Steeler
11-03-2008, 04:43 AM
I wonder why they didn't let Hartwig try it instead of Harrison.:noidea:

lamberts-lost-tooth
11-03-2008, 06:51 AM
he must not be any good at it....:noidea: wouldn't a guy on the PS , have first shot at the job?

Couldnt find anywhere where they even gave him a shot at it...they listed 4 guys...Legursky wasnt one of them.

Years4me
12-08-2008, 12:26 AM
some long snap video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVrIUkLv6mQ