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BlitzburghRockCity
12-09-2005, 12:45 AM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports/steelerslive/s_402219.html

With running back Verron Haynes expected to dress Sunday against the Bears, that could mean either Duce Staley or Jerome Bettis will be de-activated. Those two backs, along with starter Willie Parker, dressed the past two games, with Haynes being de-activated. Staley has been used as a third-down back, a spot usually held down by Haynes, who also plays special teams.


Bettis was asked if he was eager to face the top-ranked Bears defense.
"Not eager," he said, smiling. "If I could pick one, I probably wouldn't pick this defense."





Bettis also said he offered advice to Parker, who fumbled twice against the Bengals.

"Forget it, forget about it," Bettis told Parker.

Parker, who will make his 12th start of the season, said the fumbles are a dead issue.

"That's last game; we ain't talking about that anymore."



QB Charlie Batch (finger), RT Max Starks (knee) and LB/special teams ace Andre Frazier (hamstring) were upgraded from questionable to probable yesterday. Batch reported that the pinkie finger on his throwing hand, which has forced him out of the past three games, responded well the past two practices.


CB Ike Taylor is familiar with Bears CB Charles Tillman. For half their senior season at Louisiana-Lafayette, the two formed a dynamic duo.
"We ran that 4-4 defense, so we had a lot of man coverage," Taylor said.

Tillman was moved to safety for the second half of the year and drafted in the second round by Chicago, where he immediately became a starter. Taylor, a fourth-round pick, didn't play CB until his senior year of college. He said Tillman helped him attract the attention of scouts.

"They were looking at him, and they were like, 'Who's this other guy, Ike Taylor?'" The two haven't stayed in touch, but, says Taylor, "We knew, sooner or later, we'd see each other. I know come Sunday, there'll be a whole lot of trash-talking out there."

Prosdo
12-09-2005, 02:58 AM
Great to hear Batch, Starks, and Frazier were all upgraded. Vernon will probably help mostly on special teams I'm guessing. I guess it could go either way with Staley and Bettis. Right now I would probably say they will have Willie and Jerome dressed.

clevestinks
12-09-2005, 04:09 AM
Its time to decide whether or not Staley stays in the burgh. I want him gone but it will cost us cap money. I say play Staley IF he can take it.

Prosdo
12-09-2005, 05:18 AM
Good point. It's about time Staley has earned his pay. He's played in 4 games and barely got any carries. Should be ready to go if he has to.

fergusonat
12-09-2005, 12:17 PM
They need to use Staley...period. If they really want him on the team, then use him. He needs to break into a rhythm and randomly using him on half-assed plays every now and then does not allow him to do this. I personally would like to see a lot of Duce action this Sunday. They can use Willie when they need him, but I would stay predominantly with Duce. Like everybody says, he needs to earn his pay.

SteelCityMan786
12-09-2005, 01:09 PM
Great To Hear Some of These Guys Will be back. You Keep Bettis Active.

pitt
12-09-2005, 01:45 PM
As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who the heck the rb is. Our running game has come to almost a complete stop. None of them are getting the job done right now.

BlitzburghRockCity
12-09-2005, 02:10 PM
Our special teams were horrific last week so this move makes sense cuz haynes plays alot on the ST.

I dunno, if wish we could keep them all active but I fear staley will prolly get the axe for this game.

Suitanim
12-09-2005, 02:48 PM
I also heard Marvel might be playing...it'd be nice to have a mostly healthy team on the field for a change...

fergusonat
12-09-2005, 02:56 PM
As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who the heck the rb is. Our running game has come to almost a complete stop. None of them are getting the job done right now.

It's not so much Duce, Willie, or Bettis not getting the job done...it's the o-line that isn't. Granted, a bad offensive line doesn't make you drop the ball like Willie and Duce were last week, but that initial hole has been almost nonexistant for them lately. It's scary to think that the offensive line is almost as bad as it was in '03 :sweating:

SteelCityMan786
12-09-2005, 03:00 PM
I'd rather have a 100% Healthy team on the field. But I can settle for mostly. As long as they pull of a win I will be happy. 1 point or 100.

fergusonat
12-09-2005, 03:23 PM
This late in the season it's kind of hard to expect all your players to be 100% healthy. Just seems like the Steelers haven't been able to overcome their injuries the way we expect them to. It just sucks that our entire season was in Tommy's hands for a few games and that the offensive line is struggling. Take those away and we're 10-2

SteelCityMan786
12-09-2005, 03:25 PM
This late in the season it's kind of hard to expect all your players to be 100% healthy. Just seems like the Steelers haven't been able to overcome their injuries the way we expect them to. It just sucks that our entire season was in Tommy's hands for a few games and that the offensive line is struggling. Take those away and we're 10-2


Maddox Should Be Shown the Door. He Has NOT STEPPED UP AND PLAYED LIKE HE DID IN 2002.

clevestinks
12-09-2005, 03:38 PM
Maddox Should Be Shown the Door. He Has NOT STEPPED UP AND PLAYED LIKE HE DID IN 2002.
I think we all second that motion!

BlitzburghRockCity
12-09-2005, 03:54 PM
Even cowher in all his stubborness wouldnt bench Jerome, I just dont see it happening...

clevestinks
12-09-2005, 04:00 PM
I am not in favor of him playing Bettis just for " Old time Sake" though. If he plays and plays well great.

Koopa
12-09-2005, 04:04 PM
Maddox Should Be Shown the Door. He Has NOT STEPPED UP AND PLAYED LIKE HE DID IN 2002.


aww the fluke year, the only way we'll ever see him do that is if you supe him up on madden and play on rookie and maybe he'll be good. i hope he gets cut this year, if he doesn't i think he's slobbin on some front office nob

clevestinks
12-09-2005, 04:08 PM
Tommy did play well in preseason, and Batch didnt and Ben didnt, I guess preseason, it was it is. Nothing!

SteelCityMan786
12-09-2005, 04:16 PM
I think we all second that motion!


I second you with more rep points.

BlitzburghRockCity
12-09-2005, 04:55 PM
I remember when we all were touting maddox as something awesome, a rebirth, the 2nd coming of a misunderstood QB who finally has his shot to shine...

yeah that didnt last too long...

SteelCityMan786
12-09-2005, 05:07 PM
aww the fluke year, the only way we'll ever see him do that is if you supe him up on madden and play on rookie and maybe he'll be good. i hope he gets cut this year, if he doesn't i think he's slobbin on some front office nob


Maddox Contact the NFL Offices. File Your Retirement Papers.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
12-09-2005, 05:17 PM
I would rather staley and bettis activated.......Haynes has never cought my eye as a good running back........

clevestinks
12-12-2005, 12:28 AM
Staley out for good!

Willie looked good today!
The Bus looked good today!
Even Haynes picked up some tough yardage whne needed today. And Haynes seems like the best blocker out of them all!

BlitzburghRockCity
12-12-2005, 12:30 AM
Haynes has made his living w/ us on 3rd down duty, he's made alot of plays for us..but when he's gotten the chance to carry the load at times he hasnt delivered though.. i think he's the odd man out after this season.

clevestinks
12-12-2005, 12:34 AM
I think there is still a chance that we only get one of these four back, Willie. I think Haynes may be offered a little $, and see if he bites. I like your idea of Larry Johnson, although I doubt it willl happen

Koopa
12-12-2005, 01:29 AM
Haynes has made his living w/ us on 3rd down duty, he's made alot of plays for us..but when he's gotten the chance to carry the load at times he hasnt delivered though.. i think he's the odd man out after this season.


i bet willie would do a hell of a lot better on 3rd downs, espically on them screen passes, with his speed that's money right there.