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GutterflowerSteel
12-02-2008, 07:43 PM
I didn't know that he had been nominated until it was mentioned on NFLN tonight. C'mon, SteelersFever Nation - he won in Weeks 5 & 9 - let's do it again! :tt02:

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The Duke
12-02-2008, 07:48 PM
Against Childress and Shanahan? lol, easy win for Mike

tony hipchest
12-02-2008, 07:52 PM
we should really have a "player of the week" sticky thread count.

i believe 1 steeler has won it for every win. sometimes 2. i think it was parker and woodley in week 1. and tomlin plus ben vs jax.

im sure harrison and tomlin win it again this week. its all for nothing but its nice to get the recognition. :tt02:

ben7
12-02-2008, 07:57 PM
Play calling wasnt amazing

SteelersMongol
12-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Voted.

BrandonCarr39
12-02-2008, 10:08 PM
Just curious-who has final say in Pitt's FO now? Is the guy that worked with Cowher, Kevin Colbert(sp), still there?

tony hipchest
12-02-2008, 10:38 PM
Just curious-who has final say in Pitt's FO now? Is the guy that worked with Cowher, Kevin Colbert(sp), still there?yes.

as with cowher, day to day decisions come down to tomlin. when it comes down to getting players, the coach, gm, and owner each essentially share 1/3 of the vote.

ultimately, hardly anyone has been around pro football longer than dan rooney. im pretty sure he wouldve never even hired a coach who woulda thought about replacing dick lebeau.

you could say coach and gm share weight and the owner acts as the tie breaker.

BrandonCarr39
12-02-2008, 10:47 PM
yes.

as with cowher, day to day decisions come down to tomlin. when it comes down to getting players, the coach, gm, and owner each essentially share 1/3 of the vote.

ultimately, hardly anyone has been around pro football longer than dan rooney. im pretty sure he wouldve never even hired a coach who woulda thought about replacing dick lebeau.

you could say coach and gm share weight and the owner acts as the tie breaker.

Interesting...I myself am not familar with the mechanics of what goes on in the FO, but the way you describe things, it's making alot more sense. So basically, even thought the good owners stay out of the way(unlike Al Davis), if there's a disagreement b/w the coach and the GM, then this is where the owner(rooney) comes in to pretty much settle things.

Here's another example, if anything, of even GMs getting too much of the credit(alot like how QBs do after wins)...Jerry Reece, the Giants GM, is one example...even though Tom Coughlin and Mara/Tisch has say so too.

tony hipchest
12-02-2008, 11:37 PM
Interesting...I myself am not familar with the mechanics of what goes on in the FO, but the way you describe things, it's making alot more sense. So basically, even thought the good owners stay out of the way(unlike Al Davis), if there's a disagreement b/w the coach and the GM, then this is where the owner(rooney) comes in to pretty much settle things.

Here's another example, if anything, of even GMs getting too much of the credit(alot like how QBs do after wins)...Jerry Reece, the Giants GM, is one example...even though Tom Coughlin and Mara/Tisch has say so too.exactly. there was a nice interview with rooney before tomlins 1st draft as the steelers head coach asking about draft decisions and dynamics, and whether anything would change with a rookie head coach in the room.

the answer was, all the drafts with cowher/colbert/rooneys always went smoothly because they were able to civilly discuss and reach a mutual agreement and that was exactly the same way it would work with the rookie tomlin.

there has been speculation that lawrence timmons was "tomlins guy" as his 1st draft pick ever. if that is the case, i'd say it was a good job of trusting tomlins judgement by colbert, and rooney. after all, drafting another LB in the 2nd round has certainly paid off.

having worked with the likes of chuck noll, bill cowher, art rooney jr (his brother), and kevin colbert, dan knows he dont need to micro-manage when he's got the right guy, but when it comes down to a decision to give big bucks to either plaxico burress or hines ward, i know he is the one who has the final say.

first and foremost, the steelers have a "way" and image to try and uphold.

BrandonCarr39
12-02-2008, 11:44 PM
exactly. there was a nice interview with rooney before tomlins 1st draft as the steelers head coach asking about draft decisions and dynamics, and whether anything would change with a rookie head coach in the room.

the answer was, all the drafts with cowher/colbert/rooneys always went smoothly because they were able to civilly discuss and reach a mutual agreement and that was exactly the same way it would work with the rookie tomlin.

there has been speculation that lawrence timmons was "tomlins guy" as his 1st draft pick ever. if that is the case, i'd say it was a good job of trusting tomlins judgement by colbert, and rooney. after all, drafting another LB in the 2nd round has certainly paid off.

having worked with the likes of chuck noll, bill cowher, art rooney jr (his brother), and kevin colbert, dan knows he dont need to micro-manage when he's got the right guy, but when it comes down to a decision to give big bucks to either plaxico burress or hines ward, i know he is the one who has the final say.

first and foremost, the steelers have a "way" and image to try and uphold.

Even despite having a reputation as a meddling owner, one of Jerry's big weaknesses is that he tends to micro-manage the drafts and other player personnel too much. Since Parcells has come and handed the reigns over to Wade, he's actually gotten a bit better(i.e. he trusted Jason Garrett's suggestion on drafting Felix Jones and Martellus Bennett).

I really like his passion and energy he brings to the table, but if anything, he needs to hire a GM and back away just a bit(even Jimmy J has talked about this numerous times), b/c there are times where he does get a bit too cute.

tony hipchest
12-02-2008, 11:56 PM
Even despite having a reputation as a meddling owner, one of Jerry's big weaknesses is that he tends to micro-manage the drafts and other player personnel too much. Since Parcells has come and handed the reigns over to Wade, he's actually gotten a bit better(i.e. he trusted Jason Garrett's suggestion on drafting Felix Jones and Martellus Bennett).

I really like his passion and energy he brings to the table, but if anything, he needs to hire a GM and back away just a bit(even Jimmy J has talked about this numerous times), b/c there are times where he does get a bit too cute.
you mean like getting 3 baseball players to be his "franchise" qb (carter, hutchinson, henson)?

some think cowher will go to the browns. i feel the best opportunity to entice him out of retirement, is doing just what you said, and bring him to the cowboys (not sure if colbert could/would join).

i do know jones would pay for it and like it (even if he gave cowher all control).

BrandonCarr39
12-03-2008, 12:09 AM
you mean like getting 3 baseball players to be his "franchise" qb (carter, hutchinson, henson)?

some think cowher will go to the browns. i feel the best opportunity to entice him out of retirement, is doing just what you said, and bring him to the cowboys (not sure if colbert could/would join).

i do know jones would pay for it and like it (even if he gave cowher all control).

That's also an option to look out for-Jerry IS funding the new stadium to open next year(the Ravens game is the finale in a couple of weeks), and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a run and opens up his wallet for him...which would also bring in who knows how much more revenue.

OTOH-here's the big question-will Cowher WANT to? IOW-he's not going to have full control, b/c Jerry has a pretty big voice in player personnel as well. And how would he like the idea of working with Terrell Owens? Even the majority of coaches around the league have said they would take CJ over TO in a heartbeat. And considering Jerry's history of gambling on troubled players, how would Cowher feel about this?

Overall-just alot of things to ponder about.

tony hipchest
12-03-2008, 12:35 AM
OTOH-here's the big question-will Cowher WANT to? IOW-he's not going to have full control, b/c Jerry has a pretty big voice in player personnel as well. And how would he like the idea of working with Terrell Owens? Even the majority of coaches around the league have said they would take CJ over TO in a heartbeat. And considering Jerry's history of gambling on troubled players, how would Cowher feel about this?

Overall-just alot of things to ponder about.

cowher doesnt need or necessarilly want full control. he can work for any "boss" in the league. he has proven it, and is one of the major things that make him such a high commodity. he's just not a "step on the toes of the owner" sort of guy. he can certainly convince the owner that his way is the "winning" way though.

he walked away from one of the best, most secure jobs in sports (look at the ease mike tomlin has transitioned into his new position).

a blockbuster deal can bring him back (IMO) and only jerry jones can offer it.

cowher could do wonders for TO. he could convince him to "buy in".

with cowher, jerrry jones would know he no longer needed to gamble (no cokeheads such as michael irvin or lawrence taylor would need to be central figures in championship runs). it would clean up the image of the franchise. cowher cant clean staph infections and curses from the browns.

i really think cowher is happy. but i also think the ball is in jerry jones billion dollar court when it comes to coaxing him out of retirement.

tony hipchest
12-05-2008, 06:18 PM
and mike tomlin wins it... :tt02:

thats like the 14th player/coach of the week award for our steelers.

stillers4me
12-05-2008, 06:22 PM
and mike tomlin wins it... :tt02:

thats like the 14th player/coach of the week award for our steelers.

It was a no brainer.

The Duke
12-05-2008, 06:31 PM
and mike tomlin wins it... :tt02:

thats like the 14th player/coach of the week award for our steelers.

I think it's his 3rd of the season. He's the only coach to have won it 3 times, and only McCarthy has two

With 4 games remaining he could win at least 1 more

This could help for him to be coach of the year :tt02:

Really, who has been more impressive than him? Can only think in Mike Smith and Tony Sparano coming close to him

tony hipchest
12-05-2008, 06:39 PM
I think it's his 3rd of the season. He's the only coach to have won it 3 times, and only McCarthy has two

With 4 games remaining he could win at least 1 more

This could help for him to be coach of the year :tt02:

Really, who has been more impressive than him? Can only think in Mike Smith and Tony Sparano coming close to himgiants or titans coach will win it. tomlin will always be looked at as having been handed over great talent from a great owner, with a great d-coord.

idiiots probably think cam cameron, norv turner, or lane kiffen coulda won with the steelers.

lilyoder6
12-05-2008, 07:29 PM
go mike tomlin!!!!

jerry does love the spot-light... and u do have 2 wonder what will happen 2 wade if they don't win it all this yr or even make the play-offs

markymarc
12-05-2008, 07:56 PM
Congrats to Mike Tomlin for winning another coach of the week. While Tomlin seriously deserves consideration for coach of the year, I have to believe that Couglin or Fisher gets it. Coughlin for keeping his team competitive with off the field issues and continuing to win after the super bowl. Fisher for having the Titans playing so well with Collins at QB.