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lamberts-lost-tooth
12-09-2008, 08:28 AM
On the Steelers beat: Big Ben's best stat
By Mike Bires
Times Sports Staff
Published: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 12:13 AM EST

The record shows that Ben Roethliserger has now led the Steelers to 16 fourth-quarter comeback wins. But the latest needs an asterisk.

Roethlisberger “only” drew the Steelers to a 13-13 tie with 2:04 to play Sunday. It was Deshea Townsend who really completed the rally by returning an interception for the game-winning TD.

Still, all things considered, Roethlisberger’s performance in the 20-13 win over Dallas was impressive. Unlike Cowboys QB Tony Romo, Roethlisberger didn’t choke.

Both of them faced fierce defensive pressure. Both had to throw under nasty weather conditions.

But unlike Romo, who served up three interceptions, Roethlisberger didn’t throw any passes that wound up in the hands of a Cowboy.

During that fourth-quarter drive that started with the Steelers trailing 13-6, Roethlisberger completed 5-of-7 passes for 57 yards, including a 6-yard TD toss to Heath Miller. And one of those incompletions was a drop by Hines Ward.

* The Steelers’ classic win Sunday was the 49th with Roethlisberger as the starting QB. He now has more wins in his first five seasons that any other quarterback in NFL history.

That is Big Ben’s most remarkable stat.

* Speaking of Ward, he extended his team-record streak of catching a pass in 159 games. But he barely kept that streak going. He caught just one pass for 2 yards.

After the game when the media interviewed Steelers in their jubilant locker room, Ward was nowhere to be found. He showered and dressed quickly without speaking to reporters.

That was highly unusual. Ward is one of the few the media flocks to after every game.

Was he upset he didn’t get more passes thrown his way?

Was he upset about his fourth-quarter drop?

Or didn’t he want to answer questions about the upcoming game in Baltimore?

Remember, linebacker Terrell Suggs said earlier this year that the Ravens had a bounty on Ward.

* Steelers fans booed Mitch Berger a few times after short punts of 31, 30 and 28 yards in the first half. But with the frigid temperatures and brisk winds, punting was an adventure.

Dallas’ Sam Paulescu, who had been averaging 42.2 yards per punt, had his struggles, too.

One of his punts traveled 23 yards.

* There is a chance that Townsend’s TD was a first in Steelers’ history.

The team’s communications department is searching for the last time the Steelers won on a defensive touchdown in the last two minutes of a game or in overtime. They have yet to find one.

This much is for sure: Not once during the 43-year Super Bowl era has that happened.

In fact, the last time the defense scored the game-winning TD in the fourth quarter was on Dec. 13, 1953 when Jack Butler returned an interception 5 yards for the go-ahead score in a 14-13 win over the Washington Redskins.

* Let the hype begin. It’s Pittsburgh (10-3) at Baltimore (9-4) in one of the NFL’s nastiest rivals.

If the Steelers win, they clinch the AFC North. But if they lose, the chase for the division title might not be determined until the final week of the regular season.

The Steelers have lost five straight to the Ravens in Baltimore. Still, this promises to be a war pitting two of the league’s stingiest defenses.

* Here’s how close the Steelers are to clinching a playoff berth: Even if they lose to the Ravens, they can still clinch a wild-card spot pending the outcome of games involving New England, Miami and New York Jets.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/12/09/sports/steelers/doc493dfd1434a92631687953.txt

fansince'76
12-09-2008, 08:30 AM
The record shows that Ben Roethliserger has now led the Steelers to 16 fourth-quarter comeback wins. But the latest needs an asterisk.

They all need an asterisk. He's never won a game for this team - they've all been won by the running game and D. He sucks. People need to quit polishing his knob already. :coffee:

LambertIsGod58
12-09-2008, 08:41 AM
They all need an asterisk. He's never won a game for this team - they've all been won by the running game and D. He sucks. People need to quit polishing his knob already. :coffee:


I get asked why I can't drop it already....but I see you can't either.

LambertIsGod58
12-09-2008, 08:43 AM
Did this need a thread since there's already one started?

fansince'76
12-09-2008, 08:45 AM
Asks the person who started a new Ben-bashing thread when one was already open. :coffee:

The_WARDen
12-09-2008, 08:57 AM
* The Steelers’ classic win Sunday was the 49th with Roethlisberger as the starting QB. He now has more wins in his first five seasons that any other quarterback in NFL history.

Spell check anyone?

:doh:

LambertIsGod58
12-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Asks the person who started a new Ben-bashing thread when one was already open. :coffee:

you must be a sensative lil' thing....this whole thing started with me saying that I don't think he's worth $100 million. I give supporting stats to my argument. Whether or not you agree is up to you. But you have yet to show me where I said that I wanted him out or that he sucks. The fact of the matter is for whatever reason, you can't handle any criticism of any kind against Ben without taking it personal. It's very cute and all. But I simply didn't say either of those things. If you're gonna say I said something, make sure you can back it up with quotes and not what you perceive.

fansince'76
12-09-2008, 09:07 AM
you must be a sensative lil' thing....this whole thing started with me saying that I don't think he's worth $100 million. I give supporting stats to my argument. Whether or not you agree is up to you. But you have yet to show me where I said that I wanted him out or that he sucks. The fact of the matter is for whatever reason, you can't handle any criticism of any kind against Ben without taking it personal. It's very cute and all. But I simply didn't say either of those things. If you're gonna say I said something, make sure you can back it up with quotes and not what you perceive.

You mean like "stats" such as hijacking a thread about Plaxico Burress shooting himself in the leg with a diatribe about how dumb Ben was for riding without a helmet? No shit, buddy. We all know that it was a stupid decision and I don't think anybody's ever argued otherwise. GTF outta here with that BS already, alright?

Blitzburgh_Fever
12-09-2008, 09:22 AM
You mean like "stats" such as hijacking a thread about Plaxico Burress shooting himself in the leg with a diatribe about how dumb Ben was for riding without a helmet? No shit, buddy. We all know that it was a stupid decision and I don't think anybody's ever argued otherwise. GTF outta here with that BS already, alright?

Oh '76, Roethlisberger is highly overrated, obviously. According to ESPN and any analyst ever, all he's done is played on a team that has perennial superstars...even though none of them throw Ward, Holmes, Washington, or Miller around as elite pass catchers. Even though no one mentions Willie unless it's about speed. Even though they freely admit our OL is one of the most average in the league. Even though our defense before this year was no better than any other Top 3 defense in a given year. Even though his yards per attempt are through the roof. Even though he wins constantly. Even though he had a stellar year last year. Even though he's had two head coaches and two OC in his career. Even though the offense has changed completely during his career. Even though he wasn't incorporated into the offensive planning until last year, et cetera.

Clearly Ben only wins because 50+ yard FGs are impossible in Heinz Field!

Poor guy plays two years with Bettis and has to live with it being why he's good. I swear sometimes the guys in those studios forget Jerome is sitting right next to them. You'd think Ben never having a losing season in five years and not being pulled for poor play would be indicative of his football skills.

LambertIsGod58
12-09-2008, 09:33 AM
You mean like "stats" such as hijacking a thread about Plaxico Burress shooting himself in the leg with a diatribe about how dumb Ben was for riding without a helmet? No shit, buddy. We all know that it was a stupid decision and I don't think anybody's ever argued otherwise. GTF outta here with that BS already, alright?


Hijacking? When there are comments referring to Plax as a dumbass b/c he shot himself, I think one should look in their own backyard before running their mouths. I merely pointed out the helmet incident b/c I didn't see many people on here calling Ben a dumbass for not wearing one. Hypocritical IMO. Is it not common sense what could happen not wearing a helmet? It may have come across an opportunity to bash him, but that's not the case. And I didn't see any of my previous posts where I have said that Ben sucks and that I want him out of town. And we both know that's b/c they don't exist. So stop putting words in mouth.

Have a great day!:coffee:

Dino 6 Rings
12-09-2008, 09:39 AM
* The Steelers’ classic win Sunday was the 49th with Roethlisberger as the starting QB. He now has more wins in his first five seasons that any other quarterback in NFL history.

That is Big Ben’s most remarkable stat.

I can't wait to watch this game on NFL Replay this week. That'll be two in row! WooHoo!

vasteeler
12-09-2008, 10:45 AM
will you two knock it off,we dont need to read your spats in every thread

#1LambertFan
12-09-2008, 11:09 AM
you must be a sensative lil' thing....this whole thing started with me saying that I don't think he's worth $100 million. I give supporting stats to my argument. Whether or not you agree is up to you. But you have yet to show me where I said that I wanted him out or that he sucks. The fact of the matter is for whatever reason, you can't handle any criticism of any kind against Ben without taking it personal. It's very cute and all. But I simply didn't say either of those things. If you're gonna say I said something, make sure you can back it up with quotes and not what you perceive.

He is not worth 100 million, especially not with this years performance. I fhe doesn't get going in the playoffs we might have to worry about him being the biggest financial loss on any one player. I love Ben and he is as tough and hardnosed as QB's come but he needs to step it up and earn his money.

fansince'76
12-09-2008, 11:13 AM
He is not worth 100 million, especially not with this years performance. I fhe doesn't get going in the playoffs we might have to worry about him being the biggest financial loss on any one player. I love Ben and he is as tough and hardnosed as QB's come but he needs to step it up and earn his money.

It's been covered ad nauseam already, but he did not get $100 mil. He got $36 mil guaranteed - THAT is the amount the Steelers are on the hook for. Be that as it may, he could throw for 500+ and 5 TDs a game and he'll still be overpaid as far as a lot of folks are concerned. This is officially the last I'll say about it - it's a fruitless argument.

Dino 6 Rings
12-09-2008, 11:20 AM
He is not worth 100 million, especially not with this years performance. I fhe doesn't get going in the playoffs we might have to worry about him being the biggest financial loss on any one player. I love Ben and he is as tough and hardnosed as QB's come but he needs to step it up and earn his money.

The 100 million that we signed Ben to was a long term investment. Especially with the potential of a Cap being removed in the future. It was a smart investment.

Compare his contract to others around the league.

Matt Ryan at Atlanta, signed a 75 million dollar deal right out of college.

Before he was a dog fighter, Vick had a 130 million dollar contract.

Yes, Ben is the highest paid player this year with 27 mil.
Jared Allen gets 21 mil this year.
Larry fitz gets 17 mil this year
JaMarcus Russell gets 16 mil this year

It was a Long Term investment to sign Ben to a lot of money when we had the opportunity to get him a long term deal. It is what it is.