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Frankie3521
12-13-2008, 01:55 PM
Just wondering if anybody here has a car obsession, like I do. I'm more of a muscle car guy but I also like some imports and tuners. I just got my Charger for my birthday, love the car. Anybody else here as car crazy as I am?


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MACH1
12-13-2008, 02:14 PM
The sig says it all!

Mopar sucks. :wink02:

Frankie3521
12-13-2008, 02:18 PM
haha, whatteeevverrrrrr..you have a 03/04 Mach 1 or a classic? I looked at some 03 Cobras before I bought my car, those 32v engines are nice.

MACH1
12-13-2008, 02:25 PM
I have a 70' Mach. Its got a 4V 351C with only about 375HP.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/bcrab/Mach1.jpg?t=1226433575

Frankie3521
12-13-2008, 02:43 PM
Ohh, a classic. Niicceeee..I wouldn't mind having a classic 426/440 Charger myself...show those Fords what muscle really looks like.

You run that Mach in the 1/4 or 1/8? I'm curious to know what something like that would run.

randy06
12-13-2008, 02:59 PM
yup i am, i have a 67 camaro, a 69 camaro, 80 corvette, 92 camaro and i have a dragster that i drag race at NHRA events.

Frankie3521
12-13-2008, 03:12 PM
yup i am, i have a 67 camaro, a 69 camaro, 80 corvette, 92 camaro and i have a dragster that i drag race at NHRA events.

EWWWW YUCK, A CHEVY. Just playing man, I love camaros, even though I'm more a fan of the Trans Am.

Polamalu Princess
12-13-2008, 09:39 PM
Oh my gosh!!!! Me! I have had a great car since I was 16. I grew up working on cars, so it runs in my blood. 1974 Original Gold Duster and a 1964 Ford Galaxie are the two that my family shows. I have a jag that I love. Like I said, it is in my blood!!

MACH1
12-13-2008, 09:44 PM
Ohh, a classic. Niicceeee..I wouldn't mind having a classic 426/440 Charger myself...show those Fords what muscle really looks like.

You run that Mach in the 1/4 or 1/8? I'm curious to know what something like that would run.

Yup, it runs a 12 sec. quarter. I don't run it like I did when I was younger and dumber. :laughing: A lil older and wiser now, its worth to much to crunch up.

Have a friend that had a SuperBee that I'd smoke on a regular basis. :chuckle:

Borski
12-13-2008, 10:07 PM
I got a sweet 2003 Dodge Neon SXT with some Steeler Decals on the backseat passenger windows!

It probably does 0-60 in about 9 seconds, how awesome is that? haha just kidding. Cool cars guys

PisnNapalm
12-13-2008, 10:48 PM
I want one of these in the worst way....

http://reviews.carreview.com/files/2007/11/dodge_challenger_srt8_1.jpg

But alas.... It'll never happen.

Polamalu Princess
12-13-2008, 11:58 PM
My Jag does 0-60 - in very little time - but the Gold Duster gets a better start, but we meet at the end!!!

Steelerstrength
12-14-2008, 12:25 AM
2007 Z06, Black on Black, 563 HP at the crank, and 490 to the wheels, with just a CAI and tune! It's my twice a month toy. I'm a fan of any ride with power! :thumbsup:

Mine is no garage queen either. I drive the hell out of her! She'll do 200 mph, but I got over my top speed yearning once I hit 175. Now I'm into the twisties!

Thanks for sharing!

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/gauchostrength/DSC00328.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/gauchostrength/LowEdge4.jpg

Frankie3521
12-14-2008, 04:29 PM
I want one of these in the worst way....

http://reviews.carreview.com/files/2007/11/dodge_challenger_srt8_1.jpg

But alas.... It'll never happen.

I'm trading my car in for one of those when I graduate..probably an R/T.

Yup, it runs a 12 sec. quarter. I don't run it like I did when I was younger and dumber. :laughing: A lil older and wiser now, its worth to much to crunch up.

Have a friend that had a SuperBee that I'd smoke on a regular basis. :chuckle:

Not bad.

2007 Z06, Black on Black, 563 HP at the crank, and 490 to the wheels, with just a CAI and tune! It's my twice a month toy. I'm a fan of any ride with power! :thumbsup:

Mine is no garage queen either. I drive the hell out of her! She'll do 200 mph, but I got over my top speed yearning once I hit 175. Now I'm into the twisties!

Thanks for sharing!

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/gauchostrength/DSC00328.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/gauchostrength/LowEdge4.jpg

Are you a member of mustangforums.com? If not, thats not your car. There is a guy on Mustangforums who has that same exact picture as the first one as his signature. You may be him, I don't know. If so, nice car.

http://www.mustangforums.com/forum/members/36656-mrrogers.html

That member used to have that first picture as his signature. It's obvious thats the same car at the same place. He just changed his signature picture.

MACH1
12-14-2008, 05:00 PM
I want one of these in the worst way....

http://reviews.carreview.com/files/2007/11/dodge_challenger_srt8_1.jpg

But alas.... It'll never happen.

I wouldn't mind having one of those. Seen one the other day, pretty sweet lookin car.

Frankie3521
12-14-2008, 07:45 PM
I wouldn't mind having one of those. Seen one the other day, pretty sweet lookin car.

Waaaaiittt, I thought Mopar sucked? hehe

ben7
12-14-2008, 07:52 PM
I have a Charger SRT... 6.1 L HEMI Hot rod red.

MACH1
12-14-2008, 07:56 PM
Waaaaiittt, I thought Mopar sucked? hehe

I've always liked that body style. The Challengers and Cuda's.

Steelerstrength
12-14-2008, 10:28 PM
Are you a member of mustangforums.com? If not, thats not your car. There is a guy on Mustangforums who has that same exact picture as the first one as his signature. You may be him, I don't know. If so, nice car.

http://www.mustangforums.com/forum/members/36656-mrrogers.html

That member used to have that first picture as his signature. It's obvious thats the same car at the same place. He just changed his signature picture.

I took both photo's in front of my house, and I'm not a memeber of the mustang forum either. Looks like someone decided to borrow a photo of my ride! I'm flattered. I bought the car brand new, two years ago this coming February.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-15-2008, 05:24 AM
I wouldn't own most post 1970's American cars, baring the newer Corvettes.

My first car was a 66 Mustang Coupe, but sadly I bought a 91 Honda Accord and sold the Mustang when I went to college.

Here is my realistic "want" list though:
Nissan 300zx TT
Nissan S13 Hatchback 240sx with the Sr20DET swap
Datsun 280sx
1967 Mustang Fastback done up like Eleanor from Gone in 60 Seconds (this is my all time dream car)

Frankie3521
12-15-2008, 08:04 AM
I have a Charger SRT... 6.1 L HEMI Hot rod red.

Pictures?

I wouldn't own most post 1970's American cars, baring the newer Corvettes.

My first car was a 66 Mustang Coupe, but sadly I bought a 91 Honda Accord and sold the Mustang when I went to college.

Here is my realistic "want" list though:
Nissan 300zx TT
Nissan S13 Hatchback 240sx with the Sr20DET swap
Datsun 280sx
1967 Mustang Fastback done up like Eleanor from Gone in 60 Seconds (this is my all time dream car)

Your an obvious tuner guy, haha. I'm a big fan of those 300zx TT's, and the old Datsuns looked sick.

revefsreleets
12-15-2008, 09:22 AM
I want one of these in the worst way....

http://reviews.carreview.com/files/2007/11/dodge_challenger_srt8_1.jpg

But alas.... It'll never happen.

Yeah they are like 50k if you can even get ahold of one. A dude that works at Best Buy near me has one and I've checked it out up close. It's pretty effin sweet!

Frankie3521
12-15-2008, 04:09 PM
Yeah they are like 50k if you can even get ahold of one. A dude that works at Best Buy near me has one and I've checked it out up close. It's pretty effin sweet!

50k? My uncle just bought an R/T for 33k, you can get an SRT8 for 40k, easy.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-15-2008, 04:36 PM
Pictures?



Your an obvious tuner guy, haha. I'm a big fan of those 300zx TT's, and the old Datsuns looked sick.

Not really a "tuner" per say, I just love good cars. How can a tuner have his all time favorite car as this?: http://www.mustangv8.com/en2/uploads/wordpress/original.jpg

To me, American Muscle died in the 70's. You have new Mustang GTs getting eaten alive by cars with half the cylinders and 1/3 the displacement, and that is just sad. My brother had an 05 Mustang GT (shaker edition). My other brothers 300zx ate it for breakfast and a buddies Civic SI could hang with it (both cars have much better build quality too). New American cars are running mostly the same technology they were 30 years ago. It was ahead of its time then, now it is just rehash.

On the other hand what the little rice burners are able to accomplish and still be economical and practical is nothing short of miraculous.

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43Hitman
12-15-2008, 04:56 PM
Great thread. I don't own a muscle car, but I love em' and have enjoyed lurking in this thread.

KeiselPower99
12-15-2008, 08:06 PM
Yeah they are like 50k if you can even get ahold of one. A dude that works at Best Buy near me has one and I've checked it out up close. It's pretty effin sweet!

What the heck?? Best Buy?? I need to get on there then.

revefsreleets
12-16-2008, 05:41 PM
50k? My uncle just bought an R/T for 33k, you can get an SRT8 for 40k, easy.

My buddy Dave was looking recently, and he was told that they are still not widely available and still pushing upper 40's. Of course that was this summer, now that i think about it...

tattooboyzgirl
12-16-2008, 07:45 PM
Heres my toys :wink02:

1991 Nissan 240SX w/SR20det swap

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/tattooboyzgirl/my2401.jpg




and this isn't mine but I drive it sometimes... my dads 1965 427 Shelby Cobra

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/tattooboyzgirl/dadssnake-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/tattooboyzgirl/aaronbebe-1.jpg

randy06
12-16-2008, 08:58 PM
2007 Z06, Black on Black, 563 HP at the crank, and 490 to the wheels, with just a CAI and tune! It's my twice a month toy. I'm a fan of any ride with power! :thumbsup:

Mine is no garage queen either. I drive the hell out of her! She'll do 200 mph, but I got over my top speed yearning once I hit 175. Now I'm into the twisties!

Thanks for sharing!

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/gauchostrength/DSC00328.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb44/gauchostrength/LowEdge4.jpg



Nice may I ask what you do for a living

MACH1
12-16-2008, 10:13 PM
:drool: :drool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/tattooboyzgirl/aaronbebe-1.jpg

Ask your dad if he wants to trade. :wink02:

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-16-2008, 10:31 PM
Heres my toys :wink02:

1991 Nissan 240SX w/SR20det swap

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/tattooboyzgirl/my2401.jpg





I will trade you a 1991 Honda accord that barely works for your 240 :thumbsup:

tony hipchest
12-16-2008, 10:53 PM
the 1st car i bought was my 7 duce, 4 door cuttie ('72 cutlass supreme).

i was torn between buying a GLOCK or a car, so i got my cutlass for $350 and spent another $150 on a cheaper pistol and killed 2 birds with 1 stone.

yes i owned a land yacht. the body was all rusted out but this 30 year old, 80K mile, beauty just purred on the highway. i covered about a 1/4th of its faded, metallic, sky blue, rusted out skin with duct tape (the mummy mobile) and was set to go.

i freaking loved that car. couch in the front and couch in the back. chicks in college dug it too. straight up pimpmobile.

(think of woody harrelsons car in "Kingpin").

or better yet... think of charlie sheen's convertable cuttie in "NavySeals".

anyways, a convertable '70 or '72 442/cutlass is my dream car (either black, metallic sky blue, or yellow with the huge black racing stripes, is my dream car.

Preacher
12-16-2008, 11:21 PM
My muscle car was a 67 mustang that we swapped out the 289 for a rebuilt 302. Actually, it was a 289 block with a 302 crank (which is practically the only difference, besides the harmonic balance.

I had a holley aftermarket pro-jection system on it, RV cam, C4 tranny with an elongated vacuum modulator rod and a two stage shift kit. Never got into the rear-end to put highway gears in it. I probably would have killed myself if I did. However, with the mid-to gears I still got her up to a little over 120. . .

SOld that to go to seminary. Then a couple years ago my wife won a mustang. We just sold it last spring to buy the house we are living in here.... some who were on the board last spring probably remember my agony.

Well, here is the video the guys made of it when they were trying to sell it.

http://www.vimeo.com/792061

MACH1
12-17-2008, 12:35 AM
the 1st car i bought was my 7 duce, 4 door cuttie ('72 cutlass supreme).

i was torn between buying a GLOCK or a car, so i got my cutlass for $350 and spent another $150 on a cheaper pistol and killed 2 birds with 1 stone.

yes i owned a land yacht. the body was all rusted out but this 30 year old, 80K mile, beauty just purred on the highway. i covered about a 1/4th of its faded, metallic, sky blue, rusted out skin with duct tape (the mummy mobile) and was set to go.

i freaking loved that car. couch in the front and couch in the back. chicks in college dug it too. straight up pimpmobile.

(think of woody harrelsons car in "Kingpin").

or better yet... think of charlie sheen's convertable cuttie in "NavySeals".

anyways, a convertable '70 or '72 442/cutlass is my dream car (either black, metallic sky blue, or yellow with the huge black racing stripes, is my dream car.

I had a '69 T-Bird with a 429 CJ, it had the wrap around back seat. Thats also something the chicks liked. :sofunny:

revefsreleets
12-17-2008, 09:11 AM
67 SS Camaro with a 327 4 speed manual. My mom made me get rid of it before I turned 16 out of fear I'd kill myself in that beats.

In retrospect, she was probably right.

tattooboyzgirl
12-17-2008, 12:10 PM
:drool: :drool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/tattooboyzgirl/aaronbebe-1.jpg

Ask your dad if he wants to trade. :wink02:

hehehehe :flap: i told him i got first dibs if he ever gets rid of it but i doubt it, that car will probably be buried with him LOL

I will trade you a 1991 Honda accord that barely works for your 240 :thumbsup:

=P try going too www.zilvia.net and checking the classifieds, this is where I found mine. i actually had an 89 before this one but the 89's are only single cam engines, they started making DOHC in 91' and the front end changed and looks alot better!
If you look hard enough, you can practically steal these if people don't know what they are capable of... this car was listed at 2500 and I ended up getting it for 1600.00!

Heres my daily ride, not as exciting as the other two but i like it :wink02:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/tattooboyzgirl/rsz_2100_1154.jpg

Frankie3521
12-17-2008, 06:44 PM
Not really a "tuner" per say, I just love good cars. How can a tuner have his all time favorite car as this?: http://www.mustangv8.com/en2/uploads/wordpress/original.jpg

To me, American Muscle died in the 70's. You have new Mustang GTs getting eaten alive by cars with half the cylinders and 1/3 the displacement, and that is just sad. My brother had an 05 Mustang GT (shaker edition). My other brothers 300zx ate it for breakfast and a buddies Civic SI could hang with it (both cars have much better build quality too). New American cars are running mostly the same technology they were 30 years ago. It was ahead of its time then, now it is just rehash.

On the other hand what the little rice burners are able to accomplish and still be economical and practical is nothing short of miraculous.


The Civic SI that ran with your brother is obviously modified, stock for stock a new Civic SI and Mustang GT aren't even close when it comes to speed. The only 4 cylinders beating Mustang GT's that are stock are going to be the Turbo WRX's and EVO's. Why compare a modded car to a stock one? Thats not fair at all. LS1 F-bodys will eat any 4 cylinder car being made right now for under 35k, and they are 10 years old. Your opinion looks to be very biased.

My buddy Dave was looking recently, and he was told that they are still not widely available and still pushing upper 40's. Of course that was this summer, now that i think about it...


Yeah when the 2008 models were limited edition and SRT8 only, forcing them to be at least 50k. But now 2009 SRT8's can be had for around 40k, and R/T's around 33-35k.

MACH1
12-17-2008, 09:21 PM
Haven't found a ricer yet up to the task. :smoker:

steelwall
12-17-2008, 09:26 PM
I have a 70' Mach. Its got a 4V 351C with only about 375HP.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w11/bcrab/Mach1.jpg?t=1226433575


I just picked up on this thread for some reason. Sweet car!!!!!!!!!

My buddy had a 69 (and a half I believe) That was one bad A$$ car. Talk about G-force on acceleration...whew.... At the time I had a 79 trans am with the 455, he'd smoke me out of the gate, but if we raced down the highway...well you know the drill. Top speed on the TA was about twice his.

I currently have a 78 TA back home, man I miss driving that car.

MACH1
12-17-2008, 09:53 PM
I just picked up on this thread for some reason. Sweet car!!!!!!!!!

My buddy had a 69 (and a half I believe) That was one bad A$$ car. Talk about G-force on acceleration...whew.... At the time I had a 79 trans am with the 455, he'd smoke me out of the gate, but if we raced down the highway...well you know the drill. Top speed on the TA was about twice his.

I currently have a 78 TA back home, man I miss driving that car.

Mach's are more set up for quarter miles than long runs. At least mine is(was), it come stock with the drag pack - 4 speed top loader Hurst shifter and a posi 4:25 9" rear end all stock. Of course its not all completely stock now. :sofunny:

You might get me in a long run but I'll smoke ya from stop light to stop light.:chuckle:

steelwall
12-17-2008, 09:58 PM
Mach's are more set up for quarter miles than long runs. At least mine is(was), it come stock with the drag pack - 4 speed top loader Hurst shifter and a posi 4:25 9" rear end all stock. Of course its not all completely stock now. :sofunny:

You might get me in a long run but I'll smoke ya from stop light to stop light.:chuckle:


Yeah no doubt, not a chance in short runs, but from 45 to about 130 the TA's acceleration is killer. Is there a 69 and 1/2? I could be wrong but it seems like that is stuck in my head about his car.

MACH1
12-17-2008, 10:10 PM
Is there a 69 and 1/2? I could be wrong but it seems like that is stuck in my head about his car.

No not really. There is a 64 &1/2 though.

steelwall
12-17-2008, 10:18 PM
No not really. There is a 64 &1/2 though.

His was definatly a 69, I don't know where I'm getting the half from. Either way the car you have is awesome. I love the paint too.

MACH1
12-17-2008, 10:27 PM
Thanks....The cops love it too. :chuckle:

steelwall
12-17-2008, 10:37 PM
Thanks....The cops love it too. :chuckle:

:laughing: yeah not hardly a car you'll be flying under the radar in.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-17-2008, 11:24 PM
The Civic SI that ran with your brother is obviously modified, stock for stock a new Civic SI and Mustang GT aren't even close when it comes to speed. The only 4 cylinders beating Mustang GT's that are stock are going to be the Turbo WRX's and EVO's. Why compare a modded car to a stock one? Thats not fair at all. LS1 F-bodys will eat any 4 cylinder car being made right now for under 35k, and they are 10 years old. Your opinion looks to be very biased.
.

New Ford Mustangs do the 1/4 mile in about 13.5, Civic SI about 15-16. Sure the Mustang is faster, but at twice the engine it isn't impressive at all.

My opinion is not at all biased, I love REAL muscle cars. I am just not impressed with the same old hash that Detroit is churning out.

2005 Ford Mustang 1/4 mile in 13.5
1971 Ford Mustang Boss 1/4 mile in 13.8

You mean to tell me in 30 years that's the best they could do?

MACH1
12-18-2008, 01:10 AM
Show me a rice burner thats going to be around in 30 years thats going to be worth more than scrape metal prices or even considered a classic or even collectible. Rice burners are nothing more than disposable cars.

As far as the the 30 year is that the best they can do BS. Cars today run on lower octane gas, I know this because to get mine to run right I have to mix in about a 1/4 tank of airplane fuel. Today's engines also run on lower compression ratios and put out less HP than the old cars with equivalent engines. With just those two things going against modern muscle cars I'd say they done pretty darn good to stay in the ball park with times with less.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-18-2008, 02:14 AM
Do you honestly think modern Mustangs are going to be worth anything in 30 years? I highly doubt that. When everybody and their brother has one, there isn't exactly a limited supply.

Fair point on the lower octane, but all cars are running on that. Like I said when you have a car like the Civic even anywhere near close running on the same gas with half the cylinders and half the displacement, something is wrong. That would be like someone weighing 100 lbs squatting the same and someone weighing 200 lbs. Either one is exceptional or the other is terrible, which is it?

Maybe these "rice burners" will never be classics, but I doubt anything except for the Shelbys, Rouschs (sp?), and other "special/limited" edition type cars will be worth anything in the future. Are 80's Camaros and Mustangs worth a dime? No, and they never will be. Little of what we are driving now is likely to be a future classic. The only modern American muscle worth having is the Corvette, to me.

I am not taking a shot at anyone for their chosen vehicle, I am just stating my opinion on the subject. Like I said earlier, my favorite cars are 60's and 70's muscle cars. I am just after the best bang for my buck, and to me something like a 300zx TT can't be beat for the money and aftermarket parts available.

MACH1
12-18-2008, 09:25 AM
Do you honestly think modern Mustangs are going to be worth anything in 30 years? I highly doubt that. When everybody and their brother has one, there isn't exactly a limited supply.

Fair point on the lower octane, but all cars are running on that. Like I said when you have a car like the Civic even anywhere near close running on the same gas with half the cylinders and half the displacement, something is wrong. That would be like someone weighing 100 lbs squatting the same and someone weighing 200 lbs. Either one is exceptional or the other is terrible, which is it?

Maybe these "rice burners" will never be classics, but I doubt anything except for the Shelbys, Rouschs (sp?), and other "special/limited" edition type cars will be worth anything in the future. Are 80's Camaros and Mustangs worth a dime? No, and they never will be. Little of what we are driving now is likely to be a future classic. The only modern American muscle worth having is the Corvette, to me.

I am not taking a shot at anyone for their chosen vehicle, I am just stating my opinion on the subject. Like I said earlier, my favorite cars are 60's and 70's muscle cars. I am just after the best bang for my buck, and to me something like a 300zx TT can't be beat for the money and aftermarket parts available.

There are plenty of "today's" Mustangs that are already collectibles. Most of the 5.0 GT's are becoming quite collectible, SVO Mustangs, Cobra Mustangs, Shelby Mustangs, Saleen Mustangs, 85 Gt - last year of carbureted Mustangs and 25th anniversary, '90 GT 30th ann. Mustangs, '03 '04 Mach1's, '07 GT500's, Roush Mustangs plus all the ones that have special features just to name a few. Man that just makes me want to run out and buy a civic and throw my money away.

MACH1
12-18-2008, 10:42 AM
Just like the old Mustangs whats more collectible? A six banger or a V8. Hard top - Rag top, factory options, dealer options, ect. and that still applies to today's cars. As far as the Vette goes it does have some competition in the form of a Ford GT.

http://www.freewebs.com/baseball1227/Ford_GT_by_GeigerCars_2_1w.jpg

SteelMember
12-18-2008, 12:23 PM
Mach, I can't discount your point. I love that new GT, but it's probably $100k more than a comparable vette.

My first car was a '66 GT coupe - 289 hi-po. Wimbeldon White with burgandy pony interior. To think I sold it in '90 for a mere 8,500 kills me. I'm a idiot. :doh:

As far as import classic muscle, how about the NSX. I thought those were pretty nice at the time. :noidea: And I always see a mitsu 3000gt out there. I think people will drive them until they are all wrecked. :chuckle: Currently, I like the WRX. For '09 they pumped up the base model to the shagrin of the Lancer playing catchup.

One thing is for sure, the handling, body roll and steering are night and day from the oldies. I think even the newer mustangs could still be dropped about another 3-4 inches.

steelwall
12-18-2008, 12:26 PM
Just like the old Mustangs whats more collectible? A six banger or a V8. Hard top - Rag top, factory options, dealer options, ect. and that still applies to today's cars. As far as the Vette goes it does have some competition in the form of a Ford GT.

http://www.freewebs.com/baseball1227/Ford_GT_by_GeigerCars_2_1w.jpg

Not to mention the way cars will most likely be chaning to more fule effecient vehicles. Probably dooming the muscle car. I believe in the future all muscle cars will be a hot item. Thats why I've hung on to my 78 TA, I also have a 95 camaro z28. that year was the most beautiful camaro of all time, it was right after the 80's style and just before the skcrewed the body style up in the later years. Its fast to but has high milage.

steelwall
12-18-2008, 12:31 PM
But my favorite car is my dads 55 nomad 2 door. It is soooooooo freaken sweet. a 350 so clean I'd eat my dinner of it, all chromed out.

Side pipes, slap stck 4 speed.

No crap my cousin had what I believe was later 70's model corvette. Well we all had a few beers and my cousin started talking crap. The raced and my dad smoke him in about an 1/8th a mile.

I knew my dad would win in that short distance that care cathes wheels in all for gears, it is truley a one of a kind.

MACH1
12-18-2008, 01:06 PM
Mach, I can't discount your point. I love that new GT, but it's probably $100k more than a comparable vette.

My first car was a '66 GT coupe - 289 hi-po. Wimbeldon White with burgandy pony interior. To think I sold it in '90 for a mere 8,500 kills me. I'm a idiot. :doh:

As far as import classic muscle, how about the NSX. I thought those were pretty nice at the time. :noidea: And I always see a mitsu 3000gt out there. I think people will drive them until they are all wrecked. :chuckle: Currently, I like the WRX. For '09 they pumped up the base model to the shagrin of the Lancer playing catchup.

One thing is for sure, the handling, body roll and steering are night and day from the oldies. I think even the newer mustangs could still be dropped about another 3-4 inches.

Yeah...The suspensions are night and day, though nothings changed in 30 years. :rolleyes: I'm not to sure about the value of imports in the future, to me there's nothing that makes em stand out to gain that much in market value. IMO. :noidea: Unless you want to count those huge ass gay looking wings they put on them. :chuckle:

Another sort of spendy car is a "modern" Cobra. Carroll Shelby still has a pile of original build sheets and owns all the licensing for them from 1966 on. He's been building modernized Cobra's for a few years now with new modern 427's and the whole works. He can build and sell them as an1966 Cobra with the build sheets. They are pretty much all hand built too. I think depending on what add ons you get (turbo, duel turbo/nitrous) can get ya upwards of 725HP.

http://www.shelbyautos.com/vehicles.asp

http://www.shelbyautos.com/CSX4000.asp

The Cobra officially went out of production in 1967 as Shelby's attention was diverted to other projects like the Mustang GT350 and GT500. The Cobra became the most replicated design in automotive history with literally hundreds of companies capitalizing on the tremendous popularity of the design. Later when Carroll asked some of them for a small percentage to be donated to his Children's Foundation he was turned down and decided to get back into the Cobra business again.

Carroll had long dreamt of having a manufacturing facility near a track where his products could be put to the test during development, and in 1995 he found it at the newly-built Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Shelby American began production of the new line of 427 S/C Cobras, the CSX4000-series, and later branched out to include the 289 FIA (CSX7000-series), the 289 Street (CSX8000-series), and a few special-edition production Cobras.

In 2003 Carroll started building the CSX1000-series aluminum body Cobras again

http://www.shelbyautos.com/aboutus.asp

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-18-2008, 02:25 PM
Actually there are already Japanese Classic/Nostalgia shows and auctions starting up. Cars like older Skylines, 300zx TTs, Supras, NSXs, RX7s, 2000GT, 3000GT VR4, 280 SX. 280 ZX, etc. are starting to become more valuable as time goes on and supply goes down. The reason 60s-70s American cars are classic cars is because the people buying them now are the same people that drove them when they were young. My generation and those to follow will likely do the same, so cars like the ones I listed above will be "future classics".

Mach I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I have my opinion, you have yours, and its obvious neither of us is going to budge.

O.K., one last stab:

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500 horsepower (actually 447) and 0-60 in 4.9 is pretty terrible. And it still handles like a boat.

T.Richardson
12-18-2008, 07:02 PM
I dont like Imports. I like American Muscle Cars. The only Import car I like is the Acura NSX.

I own a '94 Lincoln Mark 8, it has the 4.6L engine found in Mustang Cobra's so its nice. but a bit heavy and slow.

Here's my dream car.
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Mustang_Cobra_R.jpg

Though I would love this one.
http://minutemanalarms.com/spoondog_lightning.jpg

MACH1
12-18-2008, 07:15 PM
Lightnings are pretty nice for a truck. Kinda worthless for me as a truck though. LOL

sixstringlass
12-18-2008, 07:56 PM
Not a guy, but I do love cars. I collect them. Right now, my main car is a 1971 Ford LTD with a 1970 429:

http://www.crescentmoondesignstudio.com/images/LTD.jpg

I used to have a 1970 Chevelle Malibu that was set up for drag racing:

http://www.crescentmoondesignstudio.com/images/chevelle.jpg

This car had a small block 350 with a 650 CFM Holley double pumper and shift and stall converter. You'd put it into "drive," and it would sit there and shake until you hit a certain RPM, and then, you'd be off like a bullet. It was awesome. But, unfortunately, I had to sell it a few years back. I was fixing it up (as can be evidenced by the replacement parts... fender, hood, trunk... that were damaged prior to me owning it). I miss it.

I also have a 1977 Buick Regal S/R and several other beaters. My Dad collects 1957 Chevys. He has a two-door hardtop, a four-door post, and a four-door station wagon. He once had the opportunity in the '70s to get a Nomad, as well, but his girlfriend at the time forbade it. the girlfriend went away, but the regret at not buying it remains.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-18-2008, 11:11 PM
Not a guy, but I do love cars. I collect them. Right now, my main car is a 1971 Ford LTD with a 1970 429:

http://www.crescentmoondesignstudio.com/images/LTD.jpg

I used to have a 1970 Chevelle Malibu that was set up for drag racing:

http://www.crescentmoondesignstudio.com/images/chevelle.jpg

This car had a small block 350 with a 650 CFM Holley double pumper and shift and stall converter. You'd put it into "drive," and it would sit there and shake until you hit a certain RPM, and then, you'd be off like a bullet. It was awesome. But, unfortunately, I had to sell it a few years back. I was fixing it up (as can be evidenced by the replacement parts... fender, hood, trunk... that were damaged prior to me owning it). I miss it.

I also have a 1977 Buick Regal S/R and several other beaters. My Dad collects 1957 Chevys. He has a two-door hardtop, a four-door post, and a four-door station wagon. He once had the opportunity in the '70s to get a Nomad, as well, but his girlfriend at the time forbade it. the girlfriend went away, but the regret at not buying it remains.

Will you marry me?

SteelMember
12-19-2008, 11:24 AM
Unless you want to count those huge ass gay looking wings they put on them. :chuckle:
What, You mean your not into these? How about the GIANT exaust?
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/c/ce/Ricer.jpg
:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:

MACH1
12-19-2008, 11:47 AM
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Is that the Bat Mobile? :toofunny:
Just love those fender flares too.

T.Richardson
12-19-2008, 11:51 AM
Lightnings are pretty nice for a truck. Kinda worthless for me as a truck though. LOL

I think a Lightning could do the job, I think its better as a truck than like a Ford Ranger or something like that.

MACH1
12-19-2008, 12:02 PM
I think a Lightning could do the job, I think its better as a truck than like a Ford Ranger or something like that.

Defiantly 100% better than a Ranger. Their pretty quick trucks too.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-19-2008, 07:25 PM
How much weight can a Lightning carry as far a payload?

Fire Haley
12-19-2008, 07:52 PM
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/c/ce/Ricer.jpg

THAT is the gheyest car I have ever seen.


Real men drive Monte Carlos...

http://www.1977montecarlo.com/images/MVC-006S.JPG

T.Richardson
12-19-2008, 07:57 PM
Do you honestly think modern Mustangs are going to be worth anything in 30 years? I highly doubt that. When everybody and their brother has one, there isn't exactly a limited supply.

Fair point on the lower octane, but all cars are running on that. Like I said when you have a car like the Civic even anywhere near close running on the same gas with half the cylinders and half the displacement, something is wrong. That would be like someone weighing 100 lbs squatting the same and someone weighing 200 lbs. Either one is exceptional or the other is terrible, which is it?

Maybe these "rice burners" will never be classics, but I doubt anything except for the Shelbys, Rouschs (sp?), and other "special/limited" edition type cars will be worth anything in the future. Are 80's Camaros and Mustangs worth a dime? No, and they never will be. Little of what we are driving now is likely to be a future classic. The only modern American muscle worth having is the Corvette, to me.

I am not taking a shot at anyone for their chosen vehicle, I am just stating my opinion on the subject. Like I said earlier, my favorite cars are 60's and 70's muscle cars. I am just after the best bang for my buck, and to me something like a 300zx TT can't be beat for the money and aftermarket parts available.

2000 SVT Cobra R will be worth ALOT of money.

T.Richardson
12-19-2008, 08:01 PM
How much weight can a Lightning carry as far a payload?

im guessing 800 lbs? the Lightning is made to race! so I dont think it can do much but drive fast.

TroysBadDawg
12-20-2008, 12:18 AM
We have a 78 Mustang II hatchback sitting in the garage for the last 20 years. Had a 309 to drop in it but sold it for twice what I paid for it. Now looking for something smaller so the boys can have it as their first car.

But I did total not one but two 57 chevy's

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-20-2008, 12:56 AM
2000 SVT Cobra R will be worth ALOT of money.
True, but it was a 55,000 dollar Mustang in the first place with only 300 produced. Just about anything in that limited type quantity is bound to be worth something to somebody.


But I did total not one but two 57 chevy's

:banging:

sixstringlass
12-20-2008, 02:22 AM
Will you marry me?

Well, I would strongly consider it, but I think that bigamy is illegal. :wink:

sixstringlass
12-20-2008, 02:23 AM
Real men drive Monte Carlos...


With HUUUUUUUGE antennas....

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-20-2008, 03:38 AM
Well, I would strongly consider it, but I think that bigamy is illegal. :wink:


True love is stronger than any man-made laws!





Did I mention I was Mormon and have a cousin who is a lawyer?

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-20-2008, 03:44 AM
With HUUUUUUUGE antennas....

Those are only given to the manliest of men to tune in the manliest radio stations. You are required to have a thick moustache and only dress in flannels, Wrangler Jeans, and Wolverine boots...

sixstringlass
12-20-2008, 01:48 PM
True love is stronger than any man-made laws!





Did I mention I was Mormon and have a cousin who is a lawyer?

Well, if you don't mind sharing, I don't, either. :wink:

sixstringlass
12-20-2008, 01:49 PM
Those are only given to the manliest of men to tune in the manliest radio stations. You are required to have a thick moustache and only dress in flannels, Wrangler Jeans, and Wolverine boots...

That literally made me LOL.

T.Richardson
12-20-2008, 05:37 PM
anyone like the 442? Thats like one of my favorite muscle cars.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-20-2008, 07:14 PM
anyone like the 442? Thats like one of my favorite muscle cars.

Oh yea, a guy has one around here that I absolutely drool over when I put by in my 91 Accord :chuckle:

silver & black
12-22-2008, 10:16 PM
I used to play with a lot of muscle cars back in the day. I'm a Mopar guy. I've owned all kinds of Darts, Roadrunners, Chargers, Challengers and 'Cudas.... from 340's to 426 Hemis.

By far, my favorite is the 'Cuda. My last one was a 1970 Hemi, 4sp, 4:10 Dana, Lime green with a Mach 1 style wing (dealer option). I sold it 22 years ago when I got married... what a dumb ass!

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-22-2008, 10:22 PM
I would have to say that the Cuda is one of my favorite muscle cars of all time. The closest I will ever get is my plumb die cast replica.

MACH1
12-22-2008, 10:27 PM
I used to play with a lot of muscle cars back in the day. I'm a Mopar guy. I've owned all kinds of Darts, Roadrunners, Chargers, Challengers and 'Cudas.... from 340's to 426 Hemis.

By far, my favorite is the 'Cuda. My last one was a 1970 Hemi, 4sp, 4:10 Dana, Lime green with a Mach 1 style wing (dealer option). I sold it 22 years ago when I got married... what a dumb ass!

And a Raiders fan to boot. :wink02:

silver & black
12-22-2008, 10:33 PM
Just like the old Mustangs whats more collectible? A six banger or a V8. Hard top - Rag top, factory options, dealer options, ect. and that still applies to today's cars. As far as the Vette goes it does have some competition in the form of a Ford GT.

http://www.freewebs.com/baseball1227/Ford_GT_by_GeigerCars_2_1w.jpg

That is a killer car. I'd take that over the Vette, myself. You have to throw the Dodge Viper in there with those two also.

silver & black
12-22-2008, 10:39 PM
And a Raiders fan to boot. :wink02:

Touche'...:sofunny:

tony hipchest
12-22-2008, 10:41 PM
Real men drive Monte Carlos...

thats nice. i'd like an '81 with the t-tops.

speaking of big cars (with tons of balls) we had a '65 fleetwood caddy as a kid. that thing was a living room on wheels. you could stuff 6 grown men into the trunk and still have room for luggage.

straight up gangsta!

we sold it to a man who had it restored. how i wish i coulve gotten that car as my first. ive always liked the old caddys with the huge tailfins.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-23-2008, 02:17 AM
[QUOTE=silver & black;505550]That is a killer car. I'd take that over the Vette, myself. [QUOTE]

But you could sell it and have a different Vette for every day of the week. That thing is awesome, but ungodly expensive as well...

Frankie3521
12-24-2008, 02:42 PM
New Ford Mustangs do the 1/4 mile in about 13.5, Civic SI about 15-16. Sure the Mustang is faster, but at twice the engine it isn't impressive at all.

My opinion is not at all biased, I love REAL muscle cars. I am just not impressed with the same old hash that Detroit is churning out.

2005 Ford Mustang 1/4 mile in 13.5
1971 Ford Mustang Boss 1/4 mile in 13.8

You mean to tell me in 30 years that's the best they could do?

The new Mustang is also trying to help in overall drivability and improve from the 3 mpg those old muscle cars put out.

Just like the old Mustangs whats more collectible? A six banger or a V8. Hard top - Rag top, factory options, dealer options, ect. and that still applies to today's cars. As far as the Vette goes it does have some competition in the form of a Ford GT.

http://www.freewebs.com/baseball1227/Ford_GT_by_GeigerCars_2_1w.jpg

The Vette competes with the Ford GT? I'm sorry but they aren't even CLOSE to being in the same price range. Although the new ZR1 will outperform the Ford GT for a much lower price.