PDA

View Full Version : Players respond to Tomlin


lamberts-lost-tooth
12-16-2008, 09:58 AM
Bires on the beat: Players respond to Tomlin
By Mike Bires
Times Sports Staff
Published: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:07 AM EST

It’s unlikely that Mike Tomlin will get any Coach of the Year votes. But that doesn’t detract from the terrific job he’s doing coaching the Steelers.

The leading candidate for the NFL’s top coach award is Miami’s Tony Sparano, a rookie who’s guided the Dolphins to nine wins so far after they went 1-15 last year.

Still, Tomlin’s role in the Steelers’ winning a second straight AFC North title can’t be overstated.

Yes, he could be a high-rolling gambler as he showed several weeks ago when starting the game in Washington with an unsuccessful onsides kick. He gambled again two weeks ago against Dallas by passing up a chip-shot field goal in favor of trying to score on fourth-and-1.

The run against the Cowboys was stuffed, but the Steelers still overcame a 13-3 deficit and won. The Steelers also overcame the failed onsides kick and beat the Redskins.

The bottom line is that Tomlin does things that show his confidence in the players he coaches. And the players appreciate it and respond to it.

Last Thursday, Tomlin made quite an impression with the way he handled Willie Parker’s complaints about the Steelers’ running philosophy. Tomlin ripped into Parker, but he did so eloquently. He came across so well.

And what did Tomlin do to Parker before Sunday’s game in Baltimore?

He named “Fast Willie” an honorary co-captain for the day.

Tomlin is excellent at turning a negative into a positive.

* Speaking about turning something negative into something positive, how about Santonio Holmes’ performance in the 13-9 win over the Ravens?

Until he caught the game-winning TD pass, Holmes was the game’s biggest goat.

He dropped a third-down pass in the first quarter that would have given the Steelers a first down.

He fumbled away the ball at the Steelers’ 16-yard line in the third quarter that put the Ravens in position to kick a field goal.

Later in the third quarter, Holmes muffed a punt that, fortunately for him, was recovered by the Steelers.

Holmes finished the game with three catches for 21 yards.

* At mid-season, I wrote that Holmes was the Steelers’ most disappointing player after eight games. I still think he’s underachieving. I wonder if he’ll ever be the player the Steelers thought he’d be when they picked him in the first round of the 2006 draft.

* Speaking of Holmes’ fumble, thank goodness that Max Starks knows how to tackle.

When safety Ed Reed scooped up the loose ball at the 21 and started running, it looked like he might score a defensive TD for the fourth time this year. Just last week, Reed returned a fumble 22 yards for a score.

But just when it looked like Reed would score again and put the Ravens up 13-3, Starks latched on and stopped him from scoring.

Come to think of it, Starks’ tackle may have been the key play of the game.

* For a guy who may have had a bounty on his head, Hines Ward was spectacular against the Ravens with eight catches for 107 yards. He needs just 136 yards in the last two games to reach 1,000 receiving yards for the first time since 2004.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/12/16/sports/steelers/doc49473708e4f68505941728.txt

DACEB
12-16-2008, 10:09 AM
Good stuff, LLT!

I like the way this TEAM plays, this is a TEAM game and Tomlin has got these guys together playing at an extremely high level.

At this juncture, I see a huge difference in this TEAM and the Cohwer coached teams. I don't think you can underestimate Tomlins cool presence on the sidelines.

Vincent
12-16-2008, 10:22 AM
MT is growing on me. I like his passion for the game and our team. You can make the argument that he has impacted the defense somewhat - Tampa 2 / zone blitz. And the players do respond to him.

The offense really bothers me. Its all been said here and elsewhere :blah: so I won't rehash. This falls under the broad heading "HC responsibility".

Fire Haley
12-16-2008, 10:24 AM
Oh boy, this should get the Tomlin-haters fired up.

(Those that haven't already bought Cardinals jerseys, of course)

Vincent
12-16-2008, 10:42 AM
Oh boy, this should get the Tomlin-haters fired up.

Nah. I'm a newbee. Not trying to stir things up. I am tired of watching our talent and opportunities squandered by stupid O schemes and "coaching". Again, enough has been said. And we're 11-3. How bad could the O be? :banging:

I think MT is a very good young defense oriented coach with a brilliant future. Who knows - he could become the youngest coach to win a SB. And then any suggestion that anything is lacking would be laughed off the board.

I keep hoping he's sandbagging. You know, get into the playoffs with our suffocating D and a shaky O then sucker punch the field with brilliant O schemes and execution. One can hope.

Dixon sees the field. :tt03:

DACEB
12-16-2008, 10:44 AM
Oh boy, this should get the Tomlin-haters fired up.

(Those that haven't already bought Cardinals jerseys, of course)

:chuckle:

Dino 6 Rings
12-16-2008, 12:35 PM
are there actually Tomlin haters on any Steelers board?

What was it he said to get the job, oh yeah, something like

"The more Violent team usually wins"

Not agressive, not passionate, not loudest or even smartest. No...Violent!

He had me at "Violent"

of coarse I have issues, but still...he had me locked up with that one word. Lets Be More Violent then the other guy. HECK YEAH!

Fire Haley
12-16-2008, 12:46 PM
are there actually Tomlin haters on any Steelers board?


Oh absolutely, my theory is they are mostly leftover Kordell apologists.

#1LambertFan
12-16-2008, 12:46 PM
I just don't like the possibility of becoming a 4-3. It isn't likely to happen soon but I love everything about the 3-4. It seems more effective in every way when the roster is adjusted to it. Hell, when the 3-4 was new the Steelers still found a way to dominate with it!

X-Terminator
12-16-2008, 12:49 PM
are there actually Tomlin haters on any Steelers board?

What was it he said to get the job, oh yeah, something like

"The more Violent team usually wins"

Not agressive, not passionate, not loudest or even smartest. No...Violent!

He had me at "Violent"

of coarse I have issues, but still...he had me locked up with that one word. Lets Be More Violent then the other guy. HECK YEAH!

I'm sure there are, but they are about as few and far between as Detroit Lions wins these days. There were a LOT more when he was first hired and plenty more after they lost to Jax in the playoffs last year. There are those who can't let Cowher go and criticize him because he doesn't spray spit everywhere, or those who felt Whiz or Grimm should have gotten the job. But the man has more than proven himself, and I think he is going to be a great head coach with hopefully multiple rings.

X-Terminator
12-16-2008, 12:52 PM
I just don't like the possibility of becoming a 4-3. It isn't likely to happen soon but I love everything about the 3-4. It seems more effective in every way when the roster is adjusted to it. Hell, when the 3-4 was new the Steelers still found a way to dominate with it!

As long as Dick LeBeau is breathing and wearing the DC's headset, the Steelers will be a 3-4 team. I even think that when Dick isn't the DC anymore, they will still be a 3-4 team. I don't imagine Tomlin tinkering with it, especially if he consistently sees the results he's gotten this season.

DACEB
12-16-2008, 01:14 PM
He had me at "Violent"

I gotta say Dino, you are my favorite poster. Poster child for DESTRUCTION!!!

Fire Haley
12-16-2008, 01:24 PM
Come again? What would the one have to do with the other?

Kordell was Cowhers 7 year failed plan at QB- no wonder he resented Ben coming in and winning.
Kordell apologists = Cowher lovers = Tomlin haters.

Pretty clear to me, of course, it's just a theory and I never post sober.
What fun is that?

scsteeler
12-16-2008, 01:54 PM
I remember when Tomlin was hired and the responses were not good even at the beginning of this season a lot of people were thinking the Rooney's should be looking for the next coach in case the team had a bad year. Had the Steelers ended up with a 9-7 record the call for Tomlin's head would ring loud and strong. I would even go as far to say that if we don't make the Superbowl there will be some questioning his coaching abilities.

With that said Tomlin to me has done one hell of Job and should at least be considered for Coach of the year, Hell the writers picked the Steelers to only place third in their division and not make the playoffs and it looks like they could be the top seed in the AFC.

I remember in his first year how our secondary and special teams were the weakest part of this team and in 1 year and almost the finish of a second season you hear how good the Steeler secondary is. Tomlin has helped to produce a team that plays like a team and not a talented group of individuals which is hard to do with the egos you can have in this sport. Next year I would dare say that the offensive line will spoken of highly as well. Tomlin is and was the right man for the job in Pittsburgh and I wish he would get more credit for what he is doing in just his second year.

xlchamps
12-16-2008, 02:28 PM
I think people inteand to forget that Tomlin won back-to-back divison titles, ended the losing streak against jax, and pats. HE had da toughest schdule in nfl history and is lookin at a 13-3 with no.1 seed season. Tomlin beat da rats n their house for the first time since 02 season. Thats coach of the year, do u not agree guys?

Sure ravens had a rookie coach nd a rookie qb, but look at it dis way ravens had dat great d still, nd they have to great recievers mason nd crayton. Plus ravens hasnt had the tough schdule like steelers. Only way i could vote for another coach would b the falcons, u look wat they done wit matt ryan, he personally brought dat team wit a winning record season n da last 3 or 4 years. Plus u look at da coach who drafted him, so if isnt tomlin, to me, it should be Mike Smith.

FSUBoo
12-16-2008, 03:10 PM
Wasn't it questioned when the Rooney's hired Cowher though. They have a proven track record of picking coaches who will stick around long term and make us into winning teams year in and year out. I don't think you can ever question a coaching choice that the Rooney's make until they start picking stupid head coaches like the Redskins have done for so long.

scsteeler
12-16-2008, 03:24 PM
Wasn't it questioned when the Rooney's hired Cowher though. They have a proven track record of picking coaches who will stick around long term and make us into winning teams year in and year out. I don't think you can ever question a coaching choice that the Rooney's make until they start picking stupid head coaches like the Redskins have done for so long.

True the Rooney's know how to pick a coach but I have say that I think the Redskins made a good choice with Zorn if they will stick with him. I think Zorn needs to understand that you gonna have some tough times but you weather those out and keep going.

Edman
12-16-2008, 03:51 PM
Mike Tomlin has come into Pittsburgh and turned an 8-8 team on a Super Bowl hangover back into winners, and an injured QB coming off a tumultuous season back into winning form.

In this season alone he's busted so many losing streaks/curses that plagued the Steelers. Jacksonville and New England in particular. He's already off to a better start than Cowher (Bill followed up his 11-5 rookie season with a disappointing 9-7 record in 1993).

There's still plenty of more streaks to be broken, and I'm confident Tomlin can put those to rest as well.

tyler289
12-16-2008, 04:34 PM
Tomlin had me from his first media interview; I knew he would get the job and do it well.

So far he looks like a great hire.

stlrtruck
12-16-2008, 05:50 PM
Pretty clear to me, of course, it's just a theory and I never post sober.
What fun is that?

Seriously, that's been the funniest think I've read all day!!! thanks for the laugher it was needed! :applaudit: :rofl:

VegasStlrFan
12-17-2008, 12:35 AM
I was open minded on Tomlin as a new hire and pleasantly surprised with last years performance. Not addressing the O line in the off season took me to skeptical. This years D, and not allowing the team to let down on easy opponents or injury excuses has me sold. I love the no excuses attitude.

El-Gonzo Jackson
12-17-2008, 12:53 AM
Actually here is a good thread to revisit.

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=28441&highlight=rooney+rule

I wonder if the haters still think Mike T is bad news? :chuckle:

FSUBoo
12-17-2008, 05:19 AM
Yeah but alot is being made about the rumors of the Redskins going after Cowher hard. Tell me that if Cowher would go to Washington, that they would not drop Zorn in -2 seconds.