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NmL1232
01-09-2009, 06:15 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=wickersham_seth&id=3821223

It's payback time for Chargers


1. LaDainian Tomlinson won't play.

It's awful to see a future Hall of Famer and one of the league's classiest players banged up in the postseason. But San Diego has wasted precious plays during the past two playoff games -- against the Pats in the 2008 AFC Championship and the Colts last week -- giving the injured superstar a chance. Tomlinson deserves credit for toughing it out, but if he can't plant or accelerate, he's not himself, and it hurts the team. He knows it, and so does everyone else, including Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, who might have been egging Tomlinson into playing with quotes like "Guys like him find a way. Guys like him defy the odds."

You wish, Coach. Instead

2. The Steelers will face Darren Sproles every play.

After gaining 328 total yards against the Colts, the 5-foot-6, 181-pound flash is the league's newest, hottest weapon. Everyone knew he was a good return guy, but his skills out of the backfield sneaked up on everyone. He didn't reach double digits in carries until the season finale. Against Pittsburgh on Nov. 16, he had one carry.

The Steelers are probably salivating, eager to put a lick on Sproles to see how he responds. But they've got to find him first. Sproles was almost invisible against the Colts, ducking and dodging behind the line, squirting through holes, making it hard for the defense to get a square shot on him. Granted, Pittsburgh's defense is better than Indy's. But the Chargers don't need Sproles to put up huge numbers. They just need Pittsburgh to respect the threat of him. That will open passing lanes for Rivers, who's confident going into this game because

3. The second meeting between a defense and a quarterback favors the QB.

True, Pittsburgh has played great defense this season. True, one of its better games was against Rivers on Nov. 16, holding him to 164 yards and intercepting two passes. But there's a reason Rivers has lost consecutive games to the same opponent only once in his career. He adjusts.

Pittsburgh's speed or home crowd won't surprise him. He'll know which matchups work and which won't. "You can't make a snap judgment of what [Rivers] is capable of based upon what happened in that game," Tomin told reporters this week. Agreed.

True, Ben Roethlisberger is facing San Diego's defense for the second time, too. But the problem is

4. Unlike Rivers, who has been on fire recently, Big Ben has played just well enough to win.

Norv Turner tried gushing over Big Ben earlier this week, saying the Steelers have "one of the best quarterbacks in the league in almost every category."

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I'd like to know which ones. He's not among the top five in attempts, completions, yards, completion percentage, yards per pass or touchdowns. Maybe Turner was looking at interceptions, in which only three QBs threw more than Big Ben's 15. Or fumbles, in which he's the league leader with 14. Among quarterbacks still playing, Roethlisberger is tied with rookie Joe Flacco for worst touchdown-to-interception differential (plus-2). Sneaky guy that Turner, disguising indifference that way.

This isn't to hate on Ben. He has had a screen-door offensive line (another reason the Steelers won't win) and has played hurt all season. But Tomin was asked this week if he'd bench Big Ben if the quarterback played poorly. Tomlin said no (probably another reason right there), but the fact that it's even a topic is disconcerting.

Turner, of course, isn't being asked those questions. Nor is he being asked questions about bad calls by the refs that cost San Diego games, because

5. The football gods are repaying the snakebitten Chargers.

Face it: As badly as the Chargers played at times this season, they couldn't get a break. They lost to Carolina on the last play. A lousy call killed them against Denver. The power went out in Buffalo, literally. They had to travel to London. Bad calls against the Colts on Nov. 23 had a hand in that loss. "It would have been so easy for us to lose confidence as a team," said defensive end Luis Castillo. "But we stayed confident."

Last week against Indy, the breaks went San Diego's way, despite the Chargers' best tries to tempt fate. After all, Turner called his final timeout with 2:30 left; the Colts were one first down from being able to kneel the game to its end. The Qualcomm crowd booed, sensing another clock-management botch.

But San Diego forced a punt, getting the ball back with plenty of time to tie the score. In overtime, the Bolts benefited from three penalties, including a holding call on third-and-8 by cornerback Tim Jennings on receiver Chris Chambers. It was a terrible call, the type that San Diego has suffered from this season. But nobody was complaining. The powers that be were saying to the Chargers what the Chargers on Sunday will say to Pittsburgh:

It's payback time.

Seth Wickersham is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine and a columnist for ESPN.com.

This is guy is a freaking tool.

I dont know who posted the statistic about how the team does better the second time around, but obviously this guy does not like to do research....

lilyoder6
01-09-2009, 06:18 PM
WOW... this guy is def swallowing the chargers

Polamalu43
01-09-2009, 06:18 PM
What a damn fool!!! Wonder with how many charger players he has slept with

fansince'76
01-09-2009, 06:19 PM
This guy is a tool

Being a tool is a prerequisite for working at ESPN.

SteelCurtain7
01-09-2009, 06:19 PM
Typical West Coast bias from BSPN. I avoid this "network" (I use the term loosely) like the plague. :rolleyes:

NJarhead
01-09-2009, 06:23 PM
They just need Pittsburgh to respect the threat of him. That will open passing lanes for Rivers

And who says this is how it will play out???? Easier said than done Seth.

The second meeting between a defense and a quarterback favors the QB.

Says WHO?????


True, Pittsburgh has played great defense this season. True, one of its better games was against Rivers on Nov. 16, holding him to 164 yards and intercepting two passes. But ........

There's always a "but."

Seth Wickersham is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine and a columnist for ESPN.com.

....And the only one of his collegues who picked the Chargers.

Personally, I've never heard of the guy. His whole column is nothing but theories of seemingly wishful thinking. Can I get a job as a senior writer at ESPN too??? :coffee:

westcoastransplant
01-09-2009, 06:26 PM
But I thought that ESPN showed east coast bias against any team from the west coast.:crying01::crying01::crying01::crying01:

SteelCityMom
01-09-2009, 06:48 PM
Oh please, granted yes, Ben has really only been playing well enough to win, but look at the kind of defenses he's been up against and how pathetic the run game and the OL are, I think it's great that most of the games he's played well enough to win....geesh.

And seriously, it wasn't like Rivers was playing lights out against the Colts mediocre defense last week, he merely played well enough to win the game (in OT). All the other games except for the declining Tampa team (who helped the SD offense by throwing 2 picks) were against some of the leagues worst defenses, of course he looked hot.

I just looked up Rivers stats for the Colts game, and his passer rating was 61.9 for that game....20/36 for 217 yards 0 TD's 1 INT and 4 sacks....If those are the kind of stats you need to be playing hot then I guess Ben is charbroiled by now lol.

What a bunch of garbage....this guy makes me want to throw up a little. :puke:

Dr. Steel
01-09-2009, 06:52 PM
I just find it funny that this writer, reporter, hack even suggested that the Steelers defense should be worried that Darren Sproles will get most of the carries this Sunday. Oh no Darren Sproles is coming to town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We' re Doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really hope our defense comes out and just beats the tar out of Rivers, Sproles and the rest of the Chargers offense.

UltimateFootballNetwork
01-09-2009, 06:55 PM
Typical West Coast bias from BSPN. I avoid this "network" (I use the term loosely) like the plague. :rolleyes: Really? That is a new one for me.

This is one writers opinion, folks, settle down. His opinions have merit and we shall see if they come true or not on Sunday.

Polamalu43
01-09-2009, 07:14 PM
But I thought that ESPN showed east coast bias against any team from the west coast.:crying01::crying01::crying01::crying01:

ESPN is anti- west coast and teams. i just don't know were this tool of a writter came from. :doh:

BehindSteelCurtain
01-09-2009, 08:21 PM
Steelers get no respect for ESPN.

BehindSteelCurtain
01-09-2009, 08:22 PM
The are in love with Patriots, USC, Lakers, and Duke and any West coast team.

Polamalu43
01-09-2009, 08:26 PM
The are in love with Patriots, USC, Lakers, and Duke and any West coast team.

Ill 2nd that...

Steel4eva
01-09-2009, 08:30 PM
Berman took the Dolts

The Duke
01-09-2009, 08:32 PM
Suggestion- Stay away from ESPN

BehindSteelCurtain
01-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Berman took the Dolts

Yea I saw that. It was reasonable though 19-17. Atleast he thinks its going to be a close game.

Polamalu43
01-09-2009, 08:40 PM
Berman took the Dolts

I think mostly everbody took the colts!!

HometownGal
01-09-2009, 08:41 PM
There's always a "but."



I prefer "ass" and he's the ASS who wrote this article. I'm saving an :egg: for him too.

markymarc
01-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Funny how this guy says that Rivers will make the necessary adjustments when facing the Steelers in a rematch, but for some odd reason LeBeau who is a defensive genius won't know how to make adjustments against the Bolts in the rematch. Typical media B.S.

HometownGal
01-10-2009, 08:23 AM
BUMP

BehindSteelCurtain
01-10-2009, 01:46 PM
Lay off the guy. People have been picking Pittsburgh and he's just giving reasons why the Chargers have a chance to win. He's just doing his job. You guys on here always say that you like being the underdog so here's you underdog.

LittleTank
01-10-2009, 01:49 PM
The are in love with Patriots, USC, Lakers, and Duke and any West coast team.
lmao i dare you to say that on the chargers boards. you will get banned.

Nighthawk
01-10-2009, 02:25 PM
lmao i dare you to say that on the chargers boards. you will get banned.

Why would someone get banned for voicing an opinion on your board? Sounds pretty pathetic - I'm from California and even I know it's true the lovefest they show for certain teams.

LittleTank
01-10-2009, 02:27 PM
tbh i think they are more east coast bias. pats, soxs, cetics ect...

Nighthawk
01-10-2009, 02:34 PM
I don't think they show bias for either coast as much as it is for certain teams. Both coasts have their teams that ESPN loves to throw in your face... Chargers were one of those teams during the beginning of the season they thought would run the NFL, and they floundered until recently. Now they've scrapped their way back into the playoffs and the same writers are back to writing the same types of pieces they were in the beginning of the season.

Dojo Chargerfan
01-10-2009, 02:41 PM
typical. If the Steelers win then this article will be forgotten. If the Chargers win he can fall back on this article all year.

Dojo Chargerfan
01-10-2009, 02:52 PM
I don't think they show bias for either coast as much as it is for certain teams. Both coasts have their teams that ESPN loves to throw in your face... Chargers were one of those teams during the beginning of the season they thought would run the NFL, and they floundered until recently. Now they've scrapped their way back into the playoffs and the same writers are back to writing the same types of pieces they were in the beginning of the season.

I'll put it like this, how long did it take ESPN to figure out LT? He went unnoticed his first 4 years in this league and didn't even make the pro bowl after rushing for 1500 yards and catching 100 passes. How does that happen? Answer: no west coast coverage.
Why did SD not have a MNF game in over 10 years?
It's easy though. ESPN is based out of Ohio and is more exposed to teams like the Patriots, Browns, Steelers, Giants and Jets.
This is also why a TON of peole think the Chargers always sucked besides in 94. The Chargers go so little coverage and wasn't taken seriously in the 80's that they went unnoticed. Of course an offense like Air Coryell wouldn't get unnoticed today but ESPN and other sports broadcasters ignored almost every west coast team besides the 9ers.
This is also why the Seahawks get no coverage. When the team is tucked away in a corner of the world like the Seahawks and Chargers the media typically ignores them.

SteelCityMom
01-10-2009, 02:58 PM
typical. If the Steelers win then this article will be forgotten. If the Chargers win he can fall back on this article all year.

Lol no doubt, they're like end of the world prophets, if they get it wrong they just scratch out names and dates and move on to the next prediction.

LittleTank
01-10-2009, 03:00 PM
I'll put it like this, how long did it take ESPN to figure out LT? He went unnoticed his first 4 years in this league and didn't even make the pro bowl after rushing for 1500 yards and catching 100 passes. How does that happen? Answer: no west coast coverage.
Why did SD not have a MNF game in over 10 years?
It's easy though. ESPN is based out of Ohio and is more exposed to teams like the Patriots, Browns, Steelers, Giants and Jets.
This is also why a TON of peole think the Chargers always sucked besides in 94. The Chargers go so little coverage and wasn't taken seriously in the 80's that they went unnoticed. Of course an offense like Air Coryell wouldn't get unnoticed today but ESPN and other sports broadcasters ignored almost every west coast team besides the 9ers.
This is also why the Seahawks get no coverage. When the team is tucked away in a corner of the world like the Seahawks and Chargers the media typically ignores them.
what this guy said.

MaidenIndiana
01-10-2009, 03:32 PM
I'll put it like this, how long did it take ESPN to figure out LT? He went unnoticed his first 4 years in this league and didn't even make the pro bowl after rushing for 1500 yards and catching 100 passes. How does that happen? Answer: no west coast coverage.
Why did SD not have a MNF game in over 10 years?
It's easy though. ESPN is based out of Ohio and is more exposed to teams like the Patriots, Browns, Steelers, Giants and Jets.
This is also why a TON of peole think the Chargers always sucked besides in 94. The Chargers go so little coverage and wasn't taken seriously in the 80's that they went unnoticed. Of course an offense like Air Coryell wouldn't get unnoticed today but ESPN and other sports broadcasters ignored almost every west coast team besides the 9ers.
This is also why the Seahawks get no coverage. When the team is tucked away in a corner of the world like the Seahawks and Chargers the media typically ignores them.

Um....... ESPN is based out of Bristol, Connecticut which is nowhere near Ohio.