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BIGBENFASTWILLIE
01-17-2009, 10:58 PM
KICKED OUT OF BAR FOR WEARING JERSEY

I went out friday night to a local bar with 9 other teachers. Our ages ranged from 28years old to 58 years old?

It was kareoke night and the bar was full of "middle age" or older couples.

Anyway..... The bar tenders had on Ravens jerseys and I had on my Ben Roethlisberger jersey.

After about 45 minutes the manager came up to our table and told me I had to take my jersey off..... I thought he was joking but returned 5 minutes later telling me if i do not take the jersey off that I had to leave.....

I told him I had nothing else (only my t-shirt) to wear..... and I asked why the bartenders were alout to wear their Ravens jerseys......(He then made them take off jersey and came back and told me its policy that there are no jerseys to be worn in bar....

So,,,,,anyway..... he got mad because I refused to take of the Jersey and threw all 9 of us out...... We are elementary teachers.... did they think we were going to start a fight because I have a steelers jersey on???

First time I was ever escorted out of a bar by bouncers....

section514
01-17-2009, 11:08 PM
as a fresh graduate with an elementary degree, I can say that elementary teachers know how to party....

make the 4 hour drive to pittsburgh and I am sure you wont have a problem wearing your jersey here.... you prob don't have school monday, make the trip, get a hotel and enjoy the atmosphere here....

MasterOfPuppets
01-17-2009, 11:08 PM
call the ACLU ......this is clearly a discrimination case....:thumbsup:

jjpro11
01-17-2009, 11:30 PM
You guys must have great temper control, patience, and whatever else.. i would have been infuriated beyond belief. i have never heard of such a thing happening around here in the cleveland area. and they dislike the steelers more than the ravens.

The Duke
01-17-2009, 11:41 PM
You give education to those future ravens fans and this is how they treat you?

Not cool!!

I would go back there Monday after the steelers win. See what happens :chuckle:

quadruple yoi
01-17-2009, 11:55 PM
i don't think its out of the ordinary for a night club to not allow jerseys to be worn. also known "trouble" spots don't allow em either. at least where i live thats the norm. sucks that they tossed you, all the sports bars and local deals are fair game here.

tony hipchest
01-18-2009, 12:15 AM
here in NM, wearing a raider jersey is akin to wearing a t-shirt that says "I Am a Gang Member and Want To Fight You".

:hunch:

SteelersinCA
01-18-2009, 12:19 AM
Meh, that just tells you the sorry citizens of Maryland are afraid of the Steel Curtain being dropped on their asses.

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2009, 12:21 AM
a little fast on the "everyone hates us thing here"...its bar policy as i understand from reading the post on here-no jerseys allowed.....and the bartenders wearing "ravens" jerseys were made to take off thiers...so im not sure where the proof is that youre talking about.....and i completely understand the policy and go along with it as jerseys cause trouble,and you really dont need that in a nightclub,its not like its gameday at a sportsbar:tt:Wow...what a bunch of bs.....further proof that people love to hate the Steelers?

VegasStlrFan
01-18-2009, 12:26 AM
Thats BS, unless they have a gang policy. A lot clubs here have a policy of no hats, because of gangs.

I never heard of a "To Cool Policy"

MasterOfPuppets
01-18-2009, 12:28 AM
You give education to those future ravens fans and this is how they treat you?

Not cool!!

I would go back there Monday after the steelers win. See what happens :chuckle:i'd go back tonight with some black and gold spray paint ......:chuckle:

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
01-18-2009, 12:56 AM
If the doormen didn't stop you at the door, obviously it is not a policy.

If the bartender was allowed to wear his before you brought it up, it isn't a policy.

What it is is bullshit!

RJW76
01-18-2009, 01:04 AM
I guess the bar/restaurant scene in baltimore is so booming that this guy can afford to throw out nine paying customers over a jersey. I hope you guys went and spent your money at a bar that doesnt have a ridiculous policy/. If they had a no Jersey policy in pittsburgh bars it would be a ghost town

LVSteelersfan
01-18-2009, 01:08 AM
All 9 of you need to send a nastygram to the owner of the place expressing your outrage and that you will never go back there and neither will the 9 peoples' family and the 9 peoples' friends. They must have lost a lot of money and tips on that one transaction alone. I kind of understand why it is a policy but would never step foot in the door of a place if that was the policy.

Preacher
01-18-2009, 01:27 AM
All 9 of you need to send a nastygram to the owner of the place expressing your outrage and that you will never go back there and neither will the 9 peoples' family and the 9 peoples' friends. They must have lost a lot of money and tips on that one transaction alone. I kind of understand why it is a policy but would never step foot in the door of a place if that was the policy.


Show up tomorrow before the game with a camera and take a pic of them wearing the uniforms.

Next, send a letter from your lawyer with the pic expressing how you feel about discrimination and the law.

Just see what happens.

steelreserve
01-18-2009, 01:35 AM
Here in the Bay Area a ton of bars have banned sports jerseys, mostly because when a bunch of people in Raiders jerseys show up, things tend to get all stabby. A lot of them even require you to wear a collared shirt, not a T-shirt, just to be extra cautious.

Heh, this reminds me of a funny story when I got kicked out of a bar ... I was wearing my Hines Ward jersey and drinking beer straight out of the pitcher, as I was known for, and some chick came up and said, "Wow, you're really nursing that pitcher." I told her, "How the hell do you nurse a pitcher? That's as much as most people drink all night." Then her dumbass boyfriend came over, and he was one of those meatheads who gets all up in your face and says stuff like, "Hey, if you got something to say to her, why don't you say it to me." So he gave me a good shove, and in the process bumped into his girlfriend, who was so drunk she stumbled into a pool table and fell over, shattering her glass on the floor. Then the bouncer came over and threw us all out, no questions asked.

So, the bottom line was that I got 86'ed from a bar while wearing a jersey with the number 86 on it, which I thought was pretty funny. Also, this was on Christmas Day.

VegasStlrFan
01-18-2009, 01:59 AM
Here in the Bay Area a ton of bars have banned sports jerseys, mostly because when a bunch of people in Raiders jerseys show up, things tend to get all stabby. A lot of them even require you to wear a collared shirt, not a T-shirt, just to be extra cautious.

Heh, this reminds me of a funny story when I got kicked out of a bar ... I was wearing my Hines Ward jersey and drinking beer straight out of the pitcher, as I was known for, and some chick came up and said, "Wow, you're really nursing that pitcher." I told her, "How the hell do you nurse a pitcher? That's as much as most people drink all night." Then her dumbass boyfriend came over, and he was one of those meatheads who gets all up in your face and says stuff like, "Hey, if you got something to say to her, why don't you say it to me." So he gave me a good shove, and in the process bumped into his girlfriend, who was so drunk she stumbled into a pool table and fell over, shattering her glass on the floor. Then the bouncer came over and threw us all out, no questions asked.

So, the bottom line was that I got 86'ed from a bar while wearing a jersey with the number 86 on it, which I thought was pretty funny. Also, this was on Christmas Day.

I like the way you roll! :drink:

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2009, 03:02 AM
wow,overreact much?...like this country isnt lawyer happy enough with stubid lawsuits and cases like this...big deal,you got asked to leave a nightclub...its happen to me,in a sportsbar....i came in wearing my steelers jersey with friends and the owner of the bar asked us to leave cause it was a packer bar and they only let packers fans in it,and even though all my friends were wearing packer jerseys (as it was thier favorite bar to watch the packers and went there almost every game and thought it would be fun if i was with them watching our teams play each other) and i was the only one in our party wearing steelers colors ,he asked us all to leave......so we just left and havent gone back,i didnt cry or complain about it,or make a big deal about it,they dont want you there,you dont go there.....its thier bar-thier rules......you dont have to like them but you have to respect and follow them.......and guess what ?,they can come up with a policy on the fly,just to calm or defuse a situation from happening.........they dont have to post it or be told by the doorman when entering the bar.......they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason....you should really know the law before you give advice like that.....i mean i know im a "newbie" and im not suppose to express myself like this,and that what i think doesnt matter much on here,and im sure i'll get treashed by you and the lifers on here,but you guys are making way too much out of this,with all thats going on in the world and this is what upsets you:noidea:Show up tomorrow before the game with a camera and take a pic of them wearing the uniforms.

Next, send a letter from your lawyer with the pic expressing how you feel about discrimination and the law.

Just see what happens.

steelreserve
01-18-2009, 03:05 AM
wow,overreact much?...like this country isnt lawyer happy enough with stubid lawsuits and cases like this...big deal,you got asked to leave a nightclub...its happen to me,in a sportsbar....i came in wearing my steelers jersey with friends and the owner of the bar asked us to leave cause it was a packer bar and they only let packers fans in it,and even though all my friends were wearing packer jerseys (as it was thier favorite bar to watch the packers and went there almost every game and thought it would be fun if i was with them watching our teams play each other) and i was the only one in our party wearing steelers colors ,he asked us all to leave......so we just left and havent gone back,i didnt cry or complain about it,or make a big deal about it,they dont want you there,you dont go there.....its thier bar-thier rules......you dont have to like them but you have to respect and follow them.......and guess what ?,they can come up with a policy on the fly,just to calm or defuse a situation from happening.........they dont have to post it or be told by the doorman when entering the bar.......they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason....you should really know the law before you give advice like that.....i mean i know im a "newbie" and im not suppose to express myself like this,and that what i think doesnt matter much on here,and im sure i'll get treashed by you and the lifers on here,but you guys are making way too much out of this,with all thats going on in the world and this is what upsets you:noidea:

Well, mostly it's just dumb, but I agree with you. Seriously, what can you expect when you go to a bar? That kind of shit happens all the time.

Galax Steeler
01-18-2009, 06:06 AM
Like someone else stated above how did the bartenders get to wear there jerseys into the bar it is plain and simple they hate steeler fans.

Crow-Magnon
01-18-2009, 06:21 AM
As a Ravens fan, do I think that was chickenshit? Yes. Yes, I do.

But be honest, guys and gals. If I came on here and posted that I was in a club in Pittsburgh and got tossed for wearing a #52 jersey, the vast majority of you would be laughing and telling me to get my ratbird ass back to Baltimore. :flap:

Buzz05
01-18-2009, 06:34 AM
What bar did this happen at? I live in Baltimore and I am just curious. Myself and some friends went out all weekend wearing Steelers stuff and no one has said anything really to us. Other then some playful banter. Friday at work I wore my jersey and got some bad looks and a few "go eff yourself" but other then that its not bad. We were around Fells Point most of the weekend and for the most part it was pretty chill.

stlrtruck
01-18-2009, 07:31 AM
As a Ravens fan, do I think that was chickenshit? Yes. Yes, I do.

But be honest, guys and gals. If I came on here and posted that I was in a club in Pittsburgh and got tossed for wearing a #52 jersey, the vast majority of you would be laughing and telling me to get my ratbird ass back to Baltimore. :flap:

You might get harrassed but I seriously doubt they would kick you out. Tell you what - give it a try next year and see what happens.

sixstringlass
01-18-2009, 07:32 AM
And to think that me almost getting thrown out of a bar on suspicion of nudity happened this week, too. Must be a bad week for this kind of thing.

SteelersGirlTN7
01-18-2009, 07:32 AM
Its a little weird that they didnt stop you at the door, like someone said. But, to me it's not unusual that they don't allow opposing jerseys. especially since you're in a Ravens area.. I guess it also depends on what type of bar you were at, ie sports bar, nightclub, etc. If it was a sports bar here, I don't think it would matter much. They do the same things here in Nashville though. at one of the nightclubs that I go to regularly; they have a no jersey policy unless its a Tennessee team. Shirts must also be tucked in, and no hats worn the wrong way. This policy is posted at the front door though.

pta191
01-18-2009, 07:34 AM
If it were truely "bar policy" then the bartenders would have been told to take them off when they started their shift. The owner/manager clearly clearly had a problem with the Steeler jersey. When it got thrown in his face that his "policy" crap didn't hold up, he tried to save face by having his bartenders change.

Some of his local buddies were probably harrassing him "how can you let that guy sit in your bar with that on, if you don't tell him to take it off...we will!"

Hapa
01-18-2009, 07:41 AM
That's ridiculous

CPanther95
01-18-2009, 07:48 AM
We are elementary teachers.... did they think we were going to start a fight because I have a steelers jersey on???

No, they weren't afraid you'd start a fight, they were afraid that you'd win one.

GBMelBlount
01-18-2009, 08:12 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. I would have just told them I understood and if I was going to have my ass beaten three times in a year and I was still in grade school, my feelings would probably be hurt too. :noidea:

SteelerFanInATL
01-18-2009, 08:34 AM
Thats nothing but some BS HATE!!!!!!!!!!!! Last weekend for the Steeler game my dad and I went the the bar he always hangs out at. Everyone there had on Steeler Gear
except for my dad. He had on a Jim Brown Jersey, Browns Leather Jacket and hat. (He was born & raised in PGH, imagine that) Two of my childhood buddies who hang out there gave him the jersey. No problems, everyone there knows my dad and that he is not a Steers fan. Just makes for alot of fun.

Stlrs4Life
01-18-2009, 08:39 AM
What a bunch of BS!

Crow-Magnon
01-18-2009, 08:44 AM
You might get harrassed but I seriously doubt they would kick you out. Tell you what - give it a try next year and see what happens.

I didn't say I would get kicked out. I said if I did, you guys would be laughing your asses off at the Ravens fan who got de-jerseyed and/or kicked out.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Fire Haley
01-18-2009, 08:46 AM
All you teachers should of went to your cars, got out your paddles and went back in there and smacked the hell out of them guys.

stlrtruck
01-18-2009, 08:57 AM
I didn't say I would get kicked out. I said if I did, you guys would be laughing your asses off at the Ravens fan who got de-jerseyed and/or kicked out.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Can't see it happening. Like I said, they'd mock you and stuff but I highly doubt they'd make you take your jersey off. Steelers fans aren't that insecure about their team.

GBMelBlount
01-18-2009, 09:00 AM
All you teachers should of went to your cars, got out your paddles and went back in there and smacked the hell out of them guys.

:rofl:

fansince'76
01-18-2009, 09:01 AM
1. Never give that place your business again.

2. Badmouth the place to everyone, and I mean EVERYONE that you possibly can.

:mad:

RoethlisBURGHer
01-18-2009, 09:19 AM
First off, it's not Bar policy if the Bartender wore his to work that night. If it were Bar policy, then the bartender would have known not to wear his jersey to work.

So it was one of two things:

1. The manager wanted to make sure there would be no situations at his bar. Fair, I am sure he doesn't want to have to call the police and go replacing stuff like glasses, pool sticks, chairs, bar stools, tables, and bottles of alcohol if a fight were to ensue.

2. He just doesn't like Steeler fans and doesn't want them in his bar.

Now it is true that he can make up a policy on the spot, but it wasn't a bar policy to begin with.

And since he forced his bartender to remove his jersey, it wasn't discrimination.

Now I have been to a lot of places that require no hats, no jerseys, and no t-shirts (must be collared shirts) to try to keep gang violence, or just team hate violence down in thier establishments.

But there are normally signs posted on the door, and any advertisment for the place mentions that.

Just don't go back to that bar and badmouth it every chance you get. Hurt thier business, that's the best thing you can do, especially in this economy. I wouldn't imagine business is so booming right now that he can afford to lose a lot of customers. Especially since today will be the last day that bar will be jam packed with Ravens fans to watch a Ravens game for the winter.

Polamalu Princess
01-18-2009, 09:28 AM
:chuckle:I don't see what the big deal is. I would have just told them I understood and if I was going to have my ass beaten three times in a year and I was still in grade school, my feelings would probably be hurt too. :noidea:

Burghfan58
01-18-2009, 10:06 AM
What's the name of the joint? I would think with the economy in the dumps that they might want to lighten up a bit. If they truly have a no jersey policy then the bartender shouldn't have been wearing one. I'm sure you can find someone who will take your money with or without the jersey.

bigbensbabymama
01-18-2009, 10:36 AM
HATERS!!! I've been kicked out of a club for being too hot before so I know what you went through. Ok, so maybe not but I wanted to try to relate.

GutterflowerSteel
01-18-2009, 10:39 AM
Where did this incident take place? I always wear my Steelers stuff around here (there are some Steelers bars nearby).

The Steelers hate intensifies as you get closer to Bmore lol I'm about 45 minutes away :tt02:

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
01-18-2009, 10:45 AM
i don't think its out of the ordinary for a night club to not allow jerseys to be worn. also known "trouble" spots don't allow em either. at least where i live thats the norm. sucks that they tossed you, all the sports bars and local deals are fair game here.

If I came through the door and they told me no jerseys I would have no problems..

BUT THE BAR TENDERS HAD RAVENS JERSEYS ON

Took place at Chef Freds, also know as the Chesapeake Steak House

CaliStillersFan
01-18-2009, 11:17 AM
I would express my objections to their actions by NEVER returning to their place of business. HOW classless!!!!!!! You would think in a crappy economy they would be happy to make some money - their loss. Make sure you tell everyone you know to NEVER go there. If that's the way they manage their bar/restaurant they won't be in business for long.

When I lived in Pittsburgh, I used to hang out with fans that had the balls to wear the opposing team jersey's and stuff. I always figured that they must be good fans if they were willing to travel and come to Pgh for a game. I've always had a good time with the out of towners.

markymarc
01-18-2009, 11:48 AM
If I came through the door and they told me no jerseys I would have no problems..

BUT THE BAR TENDERS HAD RAVENS JERSEYS ON

Took place at Chef Freds, also know as the Chesapeake Steak House

That is really sad. But major kudos to you for refusing to take off the jersey. Like you stated if it really is a policy then mention it right when you walk in.

4G63
01-18-2009, 11:54 AM
KICKED OUT OF BAR FOR WEARING JERSEY

I went out friday night to a local bar with 9 other teachers. Our ages ranged from 28years old to 58 years old?

It was kareoke night and the bar was full of "middle age" or older couples.

Anyway..... The bar tenders had on Ravens jerseys and I had on my Ben Roethlisberger jersey.

After about 45 minutes the manager came up to our table and told me I had to take my jersey off..... I thought he was joking but returned 5 minutes later telling me if i do not take the jersey off that I had to leave.....

I told him I had nothing else (only my t-shirt) to wear..... and I asked why the bartenders were alout to wear their Ravens jerseys......(He then made them take off jersey and came back and told me its policy that there are no jerseys to be worn in bar....

So,,,,,anyway..... he got mad because I refused to take of the Jersey and threw all 9 of us out...... We are elementary teachers.... did they think we were going to start a fight because I have a steelers jersey on???

First time I was ever escorted out of a bar by bouncers....

What was the bar name, if you don't mind telling?

CPanther95
01-18-2009, 11:56 AM
What was the bar name, if you don't mind telling?
Said it here:

Took place at Chef Freds, also know as the Chesapeake Steak House

Here's the photo from the front of their website. Typical of what a Baltimore native considers a manly meal:

http://www.cheffreds.com/images/main.gif

The actual name is "Chef Fred's Chateau De'Ville" and they're well known for using only the fanciest, fine french tin foil for their baked potatoes. :rolleyes:

CaliStillersFan
01-18-2009, 12:11 PM
Let's get the word out to our fellow Steelers fans in MD. There's probably more of us there than Rats fans anyway. :rofl:

Never eat at or give your hard earned money to:

Chef Freds, also know as the Chesapeake Steak House or Chef Fred's Chateau De'Ville

Here's to them filing Chapter 11 in 2009!!!! :tt03:
(Considering that they are a fine french restaurant in Baltimore I can't see them lasting anyway)

LambertIsGod58
01-18-2009, 12:18 PM
call the ACLU ......this is clearly a discrimination case....:thumbsup:

I second that....It may be worth a few grand.

4G63
01-18-2009, 12:29 PM
Said it here:



Here's the photo from the front of their website. Typical of what a Baltimore native considers a manly meal:

http://www.cheffreds.com/images/main.gif

The actual name is "Chef Fred's Chateau De'Ville" and they're well known for using only the fanciest, fine french tin foil for their baked potatoes. :rolleyes:

Never heard of it, I'll look up where it is.

I second that....It may be worth a few grand.

Doesn't fall under any of the standard discrimination statutes so I don't think you'd get shit.....

CaliStillersFan
01-18-2009, 12:32 PM
Doesn't fall under any of the standard discrimination statutes so I don't think you'd get shit.....

That's for sure, Steelers fans cannot qualify as a minority "protected" class. We are the majority!!! Do you really think a Steelers fan have a chance suing a local business in Baltimore? LOL - Save your money.

SteelCityKing
01-18-2009, 12:49 PM
there's no point in filing any kind of lawsuit against someone who's a dickfaced loser and he's totally jealous...right? haha!

i met some Ravens fans at a local bar a few weeks ago. i booed them to their face. but i wouldn't attack them or belittle them so they would attack me. everyone is too litigation happy nowadays...so, i ask, is your love of the Steelers worth going to jail or paying fines out the ass for? maybe...but then again...maybe not. =)

Polamalu Princess
01-18-2009, 12:50 PM
That was just WRONG! You should not have been kicked out!

kittenfantastico76
01-18-2009, 02:07 PM
That IS total B.S. and if it was infact "policy" to not wear a jersey there... the bartender should have NEVER been wearing one!

Lame to the 10th degree!

MasterOfPuppets
01-18-2009, 03:50 PM
If the doormen didn't stop you at the door, obviously it is not a policy.

If the bartender was allowed to wear his before you brought it up, it isn't a policy.

What it is is bullshit!exactly.....i seriously doubt the manager didn't see what his own employee's were wearing when they started thier shift, not to mention the employee's NOT being aware of a dress code........you got witnesses...wouldn't hurt to run it past a lawyer...:noidea: .....send someone in there with a ravens jersey on and see what happens.....:thumbsup:

Preacher
01-18-2009, 03:59 PM
wow,overreact much?...like this country isnt lawyer happy enough with stubid lawsuits and cases like this...big deal,you got asked to leave a nightclub...its happen to me,in a sportsbar....i came in wearing my steelers jersey with friends and the owner of the bar asked us to leave cause it was a packer bar and they only let packers fans in it,and even though all my friends were wearing packer jerseys (as it was thier favorite bar to watch the packers and went there almost every game and thought it would be fun if i was with them watching our teams play each other) and i was the only one in our party wearing steelers colors ,he asked us all to leave......so we just left and havent gone back,i didnt cry or complain about it,or make a big deal about it,they dont want you there,you dont go there.....its thier bar-thier rules......you dont have to like them but you have to respect and follow them.......and guess what ?,they can come up with a policy on the fly,just to calm or defuse a situation from happening.........they dont have to post it or be told by the doorman when entering the bar.......they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason....you should really know the law before you give advice like that.....i mean i know im a "newbie" and im not suppose to express myself like this,and that what i think doesnt matter much on here,and im sure i'll get treashed by you and the lifers on here,but you guys are making way too much out of this,with all thats going on in the world and this is what upsets you:noidea:

Nope. Not overreacting much at all. Did I say sue? Nope. Just a way to get back at a Raven fan. That way, next time he walks in with 10 friends, ALL in Steelers jerseys. The guy just sits there and stews...

Speaking of overreaction to a post. . . :hunch:

By the way. . . I don't know where all this "newbie can't express themselves" idiocy is coming from (not calling you an idiot. I have seen it in other places over the last week or two), but if a person has something intelligent to add to a conversation, add. it. Who cares about the post count.

MasterOfPuppets
01-18-2009, 04:01 PM
Never heard of it, I'll look up where it is.



Doesn't fall under any of the standard discrimination statutes so I don't think you'd get shit.....discrimination is discrimination, no matter the circumstances. the fact that EMPLOYEE'S dressed the same way, and were not aware of a dress code , proves he was discriminated against because of what he was wearing.

NV STEELERS 723
01-18-2009, 04:04 PM
I hope that place burns to the ground in the middle of the night!

4G63
01-18-2009, 04:23 PM
discrimination is discrimination, no matter the circumstances. the fact that EMPLOYEE'S dressed the same way, and were not aware of a dress code , proves he was discriminated against because of what he was wearing.

I hate to break it to you but the owner/manager has the right to remove anyone from their premises, as long as it doesn't fall under any of the standard discrimination policies. He could use the "creating a hostile environment " excuse, no matter how childish it may be. Thats the law and he/she has the right to remove ANYBODY for any reason they see fit.

I don't see what the big deal is? A manager kicked a Stooler fan and his friends out of the restaurant. If you're a Stool fan, tell all your Stool buddies not to patronize the place. Its that simple. Asking God to burn the building down is childish and uncalled for.....

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
01-18-2009, 10:31 PM
I hate to break it to you but the owner/manager has the right to remove anyone from their premises, as long as it doesn't fall under any of the standard discrimination policies. He could use the "creating a hostile environment " excuse, no matter how childish it may be. Thats the law and he/she has the right to remove ANYBODY for any reason they see fit.

I don't see what the big deal is? A manager kicked a Stooler fan and his friends out of the restaurant. If you're a Stool fan, tell all your Stool buddies not to patronize the place. Its that simple. Asking God to burn the building down is childish and uncalled for.....


According to this guy you might have a case http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20215084/

Polamalu43
01-18-2009, 10:34 PM
KICKED OUT OF BAR FOR WEARING JERSEY

I went out friday night to a local bar with 9 other teachers. Our ages ranged from 28years old to 58 years old?

It was kareoke night and the bar was full of "middle age" or older couples.

Anyway..... The bar tenders had on Ravens jerseys and I had on my Ben Roethlisberger jersey.

After about 45 minutes the manager came up to our table and told me I had to take my jersey off..... I thought he was joking but returned 5 minutes later telling me if i do not take the jersey off that I had to leave.....

I told him I had nothing else (only my t-shirt) to wear..... and I asked why the bartenders were alout to wear their Ravens jerseys......(He then made them take off jersey and came back and told me its policy that there are no jerseys to be worn in bar....

So,,,,,anyway..... he got mad because I refused to take of the Jersey and threw all 9 of us out...... We are elementary teachers.... did they think we were going to start a fight because I have a steelers jersey on???

First time I was ever escorted out of a bar by bouncers....


Wow what a bunch of BS REALLY... man i wish iw as thtere i would have talked so much smack you dont ven know... F THE RAVENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:toofunny:

4G63
01-18-2009, 10:36 PM
According to this guy you might have a case http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20215084/

But that would be discrimination based on religion.....and despite what you might think, a Steeler jersey doesn't constitute a religion.... :wink02:

Polamalu43
01-18-2009, 10:38 PM
But that would be discrimination based on religion.....and despite what you might think, a Steeler jersey doesn't constitute a religion.... :wink02:

F YOU and the ravens!!

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
01-18-2009, 10:39 PM
But that would be discrimination based on religion.....and despite what you might think, a Steeler jersey doesn't constitute a religion.... :wink02:

All it said was "We will not be silent"... No mention of religion at all, just discriminated against because of his clothing.

CaliStillersFan
01-18-2009, 10:40 PM
F--- Baltimore , they got their asses kicked today!!!!!!!!!!

SteelersMongol
01-18-2009, 10:43 PM
What a friggin joke?

TeeJay
01-18-2009, 11:28 PM
Go back there tomorrow wearing it - That'll really dick them off! :thumbsup:

CargoJon
01-18-2009, 11:34 PM
But that would be discrimination based on religion.....and despite what you might think, a Steeler jersey doesn't constitute a religion.... :wink02:

Have fun watching the game on TV, which is the same way Ed Reed and Ray Lewis will be watching it.

jjpro11
01-18-2009, 11:35 PM
Go back there tomorrow wearing it - That'll really dick them off! :thumbsup:

yeah.. but don't buy anything.. no need to contribute to those assholes.. just sit there without a care in the world.

lambertlunaticfan
01-19-2009, 12:36 AM
i dont understand the overreacting of the this stubid thing...like i said,it happen to me and it wasnt a big deal,just leave....why is it such a big deal to you people...theres alot of perry mason's on here who actually think they did something against the law by doing this...which they did not,so why even threaten a lawsuit?the courts are tied up enough with silly cases like this.....you hurt my feelings bs....and to get back at a ravens fan,what are we all 10 years olds on here?.....the silliness of this whole thread upsets me so i guess,you might be right ,i overreacted to you people making so much out of a non story........AND TO THOSE SAYING "IF THEY DIDNT TELL YOU OR IF THEY WERE WEARING RAVENS JERSEYS ITS NOT A POLICY",like i said earlier,a bar can make up policys as they go,again,they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason....the bartendars couldve kept thier jerseys on and they could ask you to leave and you cant do anything about it,dispite what you might read on here,they have the legal right to do that.......by the way,the "newbie" thing comes by whenever i make a comment in repsonse to some one thats a lifer on here,i get the "whatever newbie" thing so thats why i said that........its a great day in steelers town,lets not fight:especially about such a stubid thing,it happens,build a bridge and get over it.......tt:Nope. Not overreacting much at all. Did I say sue? Nope. Just a way to get back at a Raven fan. That way, next time he walks in with 10 friends, ALL in Steelers jerseys. The guy just sits there and stews...

Speaking of overreaction to a post. . . :hunch:

By the way. . . I don't know where all this "newbie can't express themselves" idiocy is coming from (not calling you an idiot. I have seen it in other places over the last week or two), but if a person has something intelligent to add to a conversation, add. it. Who cares about the post count.

TeeJay
01-19-2009, 12:46 AM
.theres alot of perry mason's on here...

I always preferred Ironside :thumbsup:

MasterOfPuppets
01-19-2009, 12:53 AM
I hate to break it to you but the owner/manager has the right to remove anyone from their premises, as long as it doesn't fall under any of the standard discrimination policies. He could use the "creating a hostile environment " excuse, no matter how childish it may be. Thats the law and he/she has the right to remove ANYBODY for any reason they see fit.

I don't see what the big deal is? A manager kicked a Stooler fan and his friends out of the restaurant. If you're a Stool fan, tell all your Stool buddies not to patronize the place. Its that simple. Asking God to burn the building down is childish and uncalled for.....hey ratbird, your ass whoopins are done for the year, so why are you still here??? be a good LOSER and put your gay purple tail feathers between your legs, and go crawl back under your rock till they have another winning season......:popcorn:

MasterOfPuppets
01-19-2009, 12:56 AM
i dont understand the overreacting of the this stubid thing...like i said,it happen to me and it wasnt a big deal,just leave....why is it such a big deal to you people...theres alot of perry mason's on here who actually think they did something against the law by doing this...which they did not,so why even threaten a lawsuit?the courts are tied up enough with silly cases like this.....you hurt my feelings bs....and to get back at a ravens fan,what are we all 10 years olds on here?.....the silliness of this whole thread upsets me so i guess,you might be right ,i overreacted to you people making so much out of a non story........AND TO THOSE SAYING "IF THEY DIDNT TELL YOU OR IF THEY WERE WEARING RAVENS JERSEYS ITS NOT A POLICY",like i said earlier,a bar can make up policys as they go,again,they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason....the bartendars couldve kept thier jerseys on and they could ask you to leave and you cant do anything about it,dispite what you might read on here,they have the legal right to do that.......by the way,the "newbie" thing comes by whenever i make a comment in repsonse to some one thats a lifer on here,i get the "whatever newbie" thing so thats why i said that........its a great day in steelers town,lets not fight:especially about such a stubid thing,it happens,build a bridge and get over it.......tt:you do know you have the option to NOT read threads that bother you...so instead of getting your panties in a bunch, why don't you go read something you might approve of...:coffee:

lambertlunaticfan
01-19-2009, 12:58 AM
wow,and i thought i was going to show my age with my perry mason reference,and didnt think anyone would get who i even ment by that,thanks,i dont feel bad as i think ironside was even older than mason was,but heres a question,who played him?:noidea:I always preferred Ironside :thumbsup:

lambertlunaticfan
01-19-2009, 01:03 AM
YES!!!!!.....hey preacher---this is that response i was talking about right here...lifers always have to go the school yard way with me...wow,great come back,you rock master!!!!....you really put me on my place.....what the heck was i thinking,its a steelers message board,how dare i not drink the kool aid and go along with all the other steelers fans on here and be outraged about this so-called story:tt:you do know you have the option to NOT read threads that bother you...so instead of getting your panties in a bunch, why don't you go read something you might approve of...:coffee:

TeeJay
01-19-2009, 01:05 AM
wow,and i thought i was going to show my age with my perry mason reference,and didnt think anyone would get who i even ment by that,thanks,i dont feel bad as i think ironside was even older than mason was,but heres a question,who played him?:noidea:

Raymond Burr!!!!

lambertlunaticfan
01-19-2009, 01:07 AM
AND WE HAVE A WINNER-NICE:hatsoff::hatsoff::hatsoff:Raymond Burr!!!!

SteelCurtain7
01-19-2009, 01:52 AM
Here's a little football karma for ya: the Ravens have been kicked out of the post-season. :tt:

MasterOfPuppets
01-19-2009, 02:00 AM
YES!!!!!.....hey preacher---this is that response i was talking about right here...lifers always have to go the school yard way with me...wow,great come back,you rock master!!!!....you really put me on my place.....what the heck was i thinking,its a steelers message board,how dare i not drink the kool aid and go along with all the other steelers fans on here and be outraged about this so-called story:tt:,what are we all 10 years olds on here?.....the silliness of this whole thread upsets me
like i said....if it bothers you.....DON'T READ IT !!!!

lambertlunaticfan
01-19-2009, 02:52 AM
body blow,body blow,knock out....8,9,10 and down for the count...the master rules!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:like i said....if it bothers you.....DON'T READ IT !!!!

Preacher
01-19-2009, 03:00 AM
body blow,body blow,knock out....8,9,10 and down for the count...the master rules!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

No, that would be. . .

Come crawling faster,

Obey your your master,

Your life burns faster,

obey your master, master, master of puppets calling your name,

(from memory. . . I am sure I got something wrong) :chuckle:


LLfan...

No, I don't find wat MOP said to be calling out a "noobie" just a difference of opinion. And by the way, go back and read how much of what was said here was "over the top" "tongue in cheek" We hate the ratbird during ratbird week silliness...

TeeJay
01-19-2009, 03:04 AM
Preacher!! You quoting Metallica?!

:tt03:

lambertlunaticfan
01-19-2009, 03:40 AM
preacher-great memory-that sounds right to me,alot better than what i wouldve been able to do trying to remember the words of that metallica song,now clay aiken.......wow,did i open the door with that........i understand we are suppose to hate the other teams,especially teams like the ravens,i guess i just felt this whole none story was getting blown up on here............and people were saying wrong things and stating them kind of like facts like saying the person would have a legal case against this bar........which isnt true.....and i just shared my thoughts and saying there is no legal case here...............but dont you think,it sometimes goes beyond silliness and some of it goes over the line....especially this last week on here....i know i didnt get called out as a newbie,my point was more to the fact that a lifer coming at me with a "dont read and post if you dont like what we say on here"....but i want to thank you for expressing yourself without the need to insult::applaudit:and No, that would be. . .

Come crawling faster,

Obey your your master,

Your life burns faster,

obey your master, master, master of puppets calling your name,

(from memory. . . I am sure I got something wrong) :chuckle:


LLfan...

No, I don't find wat MOP said to be calling out a "noobie" just a difference of opinion. And by the way, go back and read how much of what was said here was "over the top" "tongue in cheek" We hate the ratbird during ratbird week silliness...

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
01-19-2009, 04:21 AM
But that would be discrimination based on religion.....and despite what you might think, a Steeler jersey doesn't constitute a religion.... :wink02:

HAHAH..... We bet you guys 3 times..... in one year......
Is there any smack talk left in the Ravens?

No.....because we just shut you up.... 3 times

the_king_from_leon
01-19-2009, 04:27 AM
I hope you enjoyed wearing it last night!

Preacher
01-19-2009, 04:33 AM
Preacher!! You quoting Metallica?!

:tt03:

I was a metal head as a youth... still am, though I am more careful what I listen too.

Check out Dragonforce.. Great music, a bit campy, but on purpose. They have the 80's thing down to a T.

MJ5150
01-19-2009, 04:33 AM
.....came back and told me its policy that there are no jerseys to be worn in bar.......

You got yourself, and this whole group of Steelers fans all worked up over nothing. Some of them want to try and run the place out of business. Not cool.

This has nothing to do with the Steelers. You said it yourself above.

-Mike

DJ919
01-19-2009, 05:13 AM
a little fast on the "everyone hates us thing here"...its bar policy as i understand from reading the post on here-no jerseys allowed.....and the bartenders wearing "ravens" jerseys were made to take off thiers...so im not sure where the proof is that youre talking about.....and i completely understand the policy and go along with it as jerseys cause trouble,and you really dont need that in a nightclub,its not like its gameday at a sportsbar:tt:

Even thought its hard, I have to 100% agree. I can undertand the owners concern. NOT saying I agree with it, but its understood.
The Scenerio:
He probably told his employees that for this special occasion that they could wear their Jerseys. Just to show a little Raven Spirit. Doing this he probably never suspected to see Steelers fans show up repping the Greatest Team In the NFL. Just to put a stop sign BEFORE the accident happens, he made a "business" decision and asked for you and your friend to remove your jerseys. Doing this, would simply avoid any kind of disruption in his place of business. Not everyone is a football fan or caught up in the rivalry of it all, so he was probably thinking of his other regulars as well... Now, what he SHOULD have done first was had his own employees take THEIR Jerseys off FIRST, then have you and your friends remove your jerseys. Did you ask for a posted Dress Code policy? A Dress Code policy has to be posted. All in All, as long as he instructed hisemployees to remove their jerseys, he's pretty much covered. Otherwise, you would have had him pinned in a descrimination corner.

stlrtruck
01-19-2009, 05:43 AM
I didn't say I would get kicked out. I said if I did, you guys would be laughing your asses off at the Ravens fan who got de-jerseyed and/or kicked out.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

BTW, was at a Steelers bar where the bartender was from where? Baltimore. Wore his ray lewis jersey the entire game and no one made him take it off.

Muppet13
01-19-2009, 07:36 AM
Nothing like that has ever happened here in cincy. There is even a bar here that is owned by Steelers fans.