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Go_Cats
12-26-2005, 05:23 PM
The game last night held very little interest for most, so I was watching everyone's favorite whipping boy of ineptitude, Kyle Boller.

He struggled as a rookie and his supporting cast was terrible last year. Heap was injured most of the year and he had no decent WRs to throw to. My God, Brett Favre has been terrible and all of his supporters point to his lack of weapons, so it boggles my mind how anyone could've expected Boller to do much of anything with the team he had around him.

This year, they added Mason and Clayton and Heap has stayed healthy. It's no coincidence that he's finally getting comfortable enough to be a solid NFL QB. The biggest thing - and he says it himself - is being able to calm down and maintain some poise. He clearly has the ability to be a solid NFL starter - he just needs to remain in control, which he has done the last 2 games.

Ambridge
12-26-2005, 06:09 PM
I don't think with two decent performances against an absolutely horrible Green Bay team and a suspect Minnesota defense that Kyle Boller should suddenly be labled a "player" in the NFL.
Not to mention that Minnesota, Green Bay and Detroit constitute 3 out of 4 teams(with the exception of Chicago)in a pitiful NFC North Division.

Let's see Kyle Boller play well against quality defenses on a consistant basis and then maybe he'll change the general opinion that he truly sucks as a starting QB.

BlitzburghRockCity
12-26-2005, 09:13 PM
Kyle Boller isnt all that... playing well in garbage time is alot differnt than playing well when it counts. Im not sold on him as a QB at all...

clevestinks
12-26-2005, 09:32 PM
i`m not sold on him either, but there is no doubt in my mind that he has improved. I hope the Ravens are now fooled into thinking that he is still thier future, that way they won`t go get anybody else.

Koopa
12-26-2005, 10:13 PM
well he is fighting for a job, this could be just him actually putting everything on the line and then once he is deamed the starter he might go back to his shitty ways, and he hasn't been playing in any games that mean shit to the team so it's easier to just go out and play and look good. we'll have to wait till next year to see if he's really gotten any better

BlitzburghRockCity
12-26-2005, 10:14 PM
well he is fighting for a job, this could be just him actually putting everything on the line and then once he is deamed the starter he might go back to his shitty ways, and he hasn't been playing in any games that mean shit to the team so it's easier to just go out and play and look good. we'll have to wait till next year to see if he's really gotten any better

thats exactly what I think too... ur fighting for your job, the games mean nothing so you can go out and take some chances, you're playing at home... gimme a break; he hasnt shown anything that means anything all year till now when it means nothing for their schedule..

CantStop85
12-27-2005, 01:57 AM
Oh contraire....the kid's more confident than once upon a time and is making much better decisions. Now that there's offensive talent settling around him, he can get a little more comfortable with being the starting QB. Something's clicked with him in the last couple of games and if you've watched them you'd be able to see that. I'm not saying he's going to turn into Carson or Ben, but he could be a pretty good QB...he's still very young.

Go_Cats
12-27-2005, 02:23 AM
Goood posting again 85

Ambridge
12-27-2005, 06:49 AM
Oh contraire....the kid's more confident than once upon a time and is making much better decisions. Now that there's offensive talent settling around him, he can get a little more comfortable with being the starting QB. Something's clicked with him in the last couple of games and if you've watched them you'd be able to see that. I'm not saying he's going to turn into Carson or Ben, but he could be a pretty good QB...he's still very young.


I watched both of those games that Kyle Boller played and I'd say he looked much better but again you have to measure his "improvement" against the quality of team he's playing against.
Green Bay flat out sucks and Minnesota is a mediocre team.
Had Boller played like that against Indy or Denver then maybe that would be good reason to speculate that he's coming around as far as playing better football.

I go along with clevestinks in that I hope he's hoodwinked the Ravens into keeping him in Baltimore then reverts back to his old ways of bad QB play.

Suitanim
12-27-2005, 04:01 PM
I think Crennel is going to browbeat his team to death this week, and Cleveland is going to step up, play for pride, and beat Baltimore while exposing Boller for the mediocre QB he truly is...

tony hipchest
12-27-2005, 06:32 PM
Goood posting again 85

his posting fails to mention that something "clicked" with boller at the end of last season too. yet he dont really do squat this year except in the final few games and of course do enough to beat the steelers.

and what about that toe injury? i know that is crucial to a qb but come on! if it was p. manning or t. brady and a playoff berth were on the line do you really think a. wright wouldve seen so much action?

CantStop85
12-27-2005, 10:14 PM
I watched both of those games that Kyle Boller played and I'd say he looked much better but again you have to measure his "improvement" against the quality of team he's playing against.
Green Bay flat out sucks and Minnesota is a mediocre team.
Had Boller played like that against Indy or Denver then maybe that would be good reason to speculate that he's coming around as far as playing better football.

I go along with clevestinks in that I hope he's hoodwinked the Ravens into keeping him in Baltimore then reverts back to his old ways of bad QB play.
Ah, yes the competition level has not been the greatest, but once upon a time Boller would have sucked even against the lowest of the low as far as talent...as a matter of fact, he did!

Koopa
12-27-2005, 10:20 PM
regardless of the competition i still wanna see if he can play like he has when games are actually worth a damn. he has no real pressure on him right now to win games so he can just go out and play and have a little fun and feel comfortable. i actually hope he improves only cause when we win the division next year we'll have actually beat two teams that or playoff contenders instead of just the bengals :grin:

CantStop85
12-27-2005, 10:36 PM
his posting fails to mention that something "clicked" with boller at the end of last season too. yet he dont really do squat this year except in the final few games and of course do enough to beat the steelers.

and what about that toe injury? i know that is crucial to a qb but come on! if it was p. manning or t. brady and a playoff berth were on the line do you really think a. wright wouldve seen so much action?
Ah yes, but Boller was hurt during the very first game this season. This injury laid him out until week 10. He then had one bad game at Jacksonville, 1 modest game against Pittsburgh, a good game at Cincinnati, an average game against Houston, and a modest game at Denver, then he exploded against Green Bay and Minnesota. (And if you want to criticize the last 2 games, Minnesota was still in the playoff hunt before Boller and the ravens knocked them off...it's not like they were a dead-in-the-water team.)

The biggest knock on Boller is he makes too many mistakes and bad decisions...a lot of these bad decisions lead to turnovers. In other words, Boller throws a lot of picks...these picks kill his quarterback rating. He also doesn't throw a lot of touchdowns because of Baltimore's lame excuse of a passing attack (before Derrick Mason, Todd Heap, and Mark Clayton all came together). One positive thing is that Boller (at least this season) has thrown for a pretty good completion percentage in most of his games, well over 50% (which is a hell of a lot better than Eli Manning can say).

The kid has the talent, but needs to make better decisions (which he has in the last few games). It's only his third year and he was basically thrown to the lions his rookie year with basically no help except for Jamal Lewis in the backfield. Now that Boller has a little more experience and some talent around him, you're starting to see him progress.

BigCat
12-29-2005, 09:30 PM
As long as Boller is the Ravens QB that should add up too two easy wins for the Steelers and Bengals.

tony hipchest
12-29-2005, 10:13 PM
As long as Boller is the Ravens QB that should add up too two easy wins for the Steelers and Bengals.

we'll trade you maddox for kitna and then we will talk about that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
cause if it were that easy steelers would be afc north champs right now.

tony hipchest
12-29-2005, 11:19 PM
Ah yes, but Boller was hurt during the very first game this season. This injury laid him out until week 10. He then had one bad game at Jacksonville, 1 modest game against Pittsburgh, a good game at Cincinnati, an average game against Houston, and a modest game at Denver, then he exploded against Green Bay and Minnesota. (And if you want to criticize the last 2 games, Minnesota was still in the playoff hunt before Boller and the ravens knocked them off...it's not like they were a dead-in-the-water team.)

The biggest knock on Boller is he makes too many mistakes and bad decisions...a lot of these bad decisions lead to turnovers. In other words, Boller throws a lot of picks...these picks kill his quarterback rating. He also doesn't throw a lot of touchdowns because of Baltimore's lame excuse of a passing attack (before Derrick Mason, Todd Heap, and Mark Clayton all came together). One positive thing is that Boller (at least this season) has thrown for a pretty good completion percentage in most of his games, well over 50% (which is a hell of a lot better than Eli Manning can say).

The kid has the talent, but needs to make better decisions (which he has in the last few games). It's only his third year and he was basically thrown to the lions his rookie year with basically no help except for Jamal Lewis in the backfield. Now that Boller has a little more experience and some talent around him, you're starting to see him progress. could he have future success like a b. johnson, t. green, t. dilfer, j. plummer, r. gannon, k. warner? possibly. (although i dont see him leading a team to the sb like some of the aformentionned) its up to the ravens to keep from screwing that potential up: and thats asking alot. elvis grbac had alot of potential too until they ran him into retirement. but i really dont see the leadership qualities in boller that even eli has, let alone some of the other veteran and up an coming qb's in the league. i question his toughness and in my opinion he is nowhere near the top 5 tough qb's in the league- farve, mcnair, ben, mcnabb, etc.

CantStop85
12-30-2005, 12:06 AM
could he have future success like a b. johnson, t. green, t. dilfer, j. plummer, r. gannon, k. warner? possibly. (although i dont see him leading a team to the sb like some of the aformentionned) its up to the ravens to keep from screwing that potential up: and thats asking alot. elvis grbac had alot of potential too until they ran him into retirement. but i really dont see the leadership qualities in boller that even eli has, let alone some of the other veteran and up an coming qb's in the league. i question his toughness and in my opinion he is nowhere near the top 5 tough qb's in the league- farve, mcnair, ben, mcnabb, etc.
I think Jake Plummer is the best comparison. Very mobile, lots of potential, takes a while to learn the game. I don't think he'll ever be a top-flight QB, but I think he could be a quality starter for a team like Baltimore with a good defense and good running game...a second version of Trent Dilfer perhaps.

Koopa
12-30-2005, 12:08 AM
well if they don't bring back lewis he won't have that running game anymore.....

CantStop85
12-30-2005, 12:37 AM
well if they don't bring back lewis he won't have that running game anymore.....
Chester Taylor's a pretty good back and it's not like Jamal Lewis did anything spectacular this season anyway.

Prosdo
12-30-2005, 02:32 PM
Chester Taylor's a pretty good back and it's not like Jamal Lewis did anything spectacular this season anyway.

From the few games I saw Taylor was doing good as CantStop said. Jamal wasn't really doing much.

BlitzburghRockCity
12-30-2005, 02:37 PM
Jamal wants way too much for a guy who hasnt done shiat in the last 2 seasons.. Taylor played much better. Lewis is a troublemaker, get rid of him..well then again he does fit right in the w/ the jailbirds and crack heads on the ratbirds.

Stlrs4Life
12-30-2005, 03:31 PM
Kyle Boller stinks!

CantStop85
12-30-2005, 07:54 PM
Kyle Boller stinks!
Thank you for the wonderful insight.

Stlrs4Life
12-30-2005, 10:05 PM
Thank you for the wonderful insight.


Insight not needed, the guy stinks.

CantStop85
12-30-2005, 10:59 PM
Insight not needed, the guy stinks.
Insight not needed...you know, that's the exact same thing I was thinking when I was reading your post...

LambertIsGod58
12-31-2005, 08:06 AM
I think Boller is better than critics give him credit for. His O-line is either aging or just not good. Lewis, a 2,000 yd back doesn't get it done. His only legitimate receiver is Todd Heap, a TE no less. I think in a different situation you'd see Boller be one of the better QB's in the league. Meaning, better than average. Not necessarily top 10.

Ambridge
01-02-2006, 04:07 PM
Wow!! That improving Kyle Boller really lit it up in a loss against Cleveland.

15-36 for 151yds

0 TD's
2 INT's

:rofl:

clevestinks
01-02-2006, 05:50 PM
Kyle came back to Earth this weekend playing against a defense that we torched fro 41 points the week before

CantStop85
01-02-2006, 07:21 PM
Wow!! That improving Kyle Boller really lit it up in a loss against Cleveland.

15-36 for 151yds

0 TD's
2 INT's

:rofl:
Reminds me of another performance this week...Ben Roethlisberger maybe?

I still think he's improved...but he certainly has some work to do.

Ambridge
01-02-2006, 08:09 PM
Reminds me of another performance this week...Ben Roethlisberger maybe?

or John Kitna and Carson Palmer combined.

CantStop85
01-02-2006, 08:24 PM
or John Kitna and Carson Palmer combined.
First of all, it's Jon Kitna.

Second of all, Carson played well before Marvin took him out.

Third of all, you're right Jon Kitna sucked it up. I'm just pointing out that everyone has bad games.

Ambridge
01-02-2006, 11:55 PM
First of all, it's Jon Kitna.

Second of all, Carson played well before Marvin took him out.

Third of all, you're right Jon Kitna sucked it up. I'm just pointing out that everyone has bad games.


First of all, if you want to be technical it's really still Jon "Kinda".

Second of all, I wouldn't say Palmer played that well! (5-8 for 54yds)getting called for a delay of game penalty and throwing three incomplete passes in a stalled first offensive series.

Third of all, I realize that every player has a bad game from time to time but Kyle Boller has had more than his share of bad games. Sure he might sputter out a decent game here and there but he'll probably never get better than a mediocre QB at best.

Brady12
01-03-2006, 12:23 PM
Ummm.... If you think Kyle Boller can play, it's obviously someone else in that uniform.

CantStop85
01-03-2006, 01:31 PM
First of all, if you want to be technical it's really still Jon "Kinda".

Second of all, I wouldn't say Palmer played that well! (5-8 for 54yds)getting called for a delay of game penalty and throwing three incomplete passes in a stalled first offensive series.

Third of all, I realize that every player has a bad game from time to time but Kyle Boller has had more than his share of bad games. Sure he might sputter out a decent game here and there but he'll probably never get better than a mediocre QB at best.
1) Huh? lol
2) Well compared to Kitna that was pretty darn good lol...at least we got a field goal while carson was in.
3) Yeah, I know I'm reaching on what I said...You believe he'll be a mediocre QB at best, I believe he will be a decent QB at best...I'm not trying to predict anything too profound, after all it is Kyle Boller.