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xfl2001fan
01-21-2009, 09:18 AM
One thing I will give props to Obama and his administration for...they're using the internet (and specifically the White House webpage) for the information outbrief to America very well.

While a lot of what I've seen is nothing more than a re-hashing of his campaign speeches (for now, a lot of words with little substance), at least he's making a lot of things available so that the public might actually educate themselves.

There's a section in the Briefing Room where you can review the Executive Orders and such...and I don't know that Bush (or his Administration) effectively used this tool to keep us truly abreast of what he was doing.

Then again, maybe I wasn't browsing it enough during Bush's tenure.

hindes204
01-21-2009, 09:24 AM
One thing I will give props to Obama and his administration for...they're using the internet (and specifically the White House webpage) for the information outbrief to America very well.

While a lot of what I've seen is nothing more than a re-hashing of his campaign speeches (for now, a lot of words with little substance), at least he's making a lot of things available so that the public might actually educate themselves.

There's a section in the Briefing Room where you can review the Executive Orders and such...and I don't know that Bush (or his Administration) effectively used this tool to keep us truly abreast of what he was doing.

Then again, maybe I wasn't browsing it enough during Bush's tenure.

The same thing was available during the Bush administration, just not enough people paid attention....and i hope more people start to look at it and educate themselves on what is going on...i think alot of people voted without even knowing what the hell Obama stood for other than "change"....i have to give him that though, he is one of the best campaigners ive ever seen

xfl2001fan
01-21-2009, 09:26 AM
The same thing was available during the Bush administration, just not enough people paid attention....and i hope more people start to look at it and educate themselves on what is going on...i think alot of people voted without even knowing what the hell Obama stood for other than "change"....i have to give him that though, he is one of the best campaigners ive ever seen

As long as he takes his Presidancy as seriously as he took his campaigning...

We're a nation in a state of flux right now...going through a bit of a tough time. It's probably not nearly as dramatic as it's being made out by our over-sensationalizing media...but still...it's a rough patch.

I truly hope that he fixes what can be fixed in his short 4-year stint. I don't believe he needs to fix everything, just make a small improvement on as much as possible, while minimizing the cost of doing so.

hindes204
01-21-2009, 09:32 AM
I dont think "minimizing the cost" is a phrase you will hear very often during the next four years....be ready for the biggest government machine youve ever seen, and spending so high through the roof, they will just stop counting after a while

xfl2001fan
01-21-2009, 09:36 AM
I fear that...but it's a wait and see approach right now.

Already, Obama has had to rethink his campaign promises (how many phases has he gone through in regards to the War in Iraq?) I'm hoping he'll wise up to the government machine issues that will arise.

revefsreleets
01-21-2009, 09:54 AM
If Obama adapts "The Krugman Doctrine" we are in a World of hurt for probably at least 50 years. That dude wants TRILLIONS tossed at the problem...

Godfather
01-21-2009, 10:00 AM
I dont think "minimizing the cost" is a phrase you will hear very often during the next four years....be ready for the biggest government machine youve ever seen, and spending so high through the roof, they will just stop counting after a while

I know what you mean...I'm going to miss the fiscal conservatism of the Bush administration. Those were the days.

kittenfantastico76
01-21-2009, 10:12 AM
Education is the first key tool in any battle. If anything I think the best thing about this election and hopefully this presidency, will be that people take time to read between the lines and educate themselves regardless of what side they are on - look beyond what your favorite news station tells you - because you may only be getting one side of the story... This was a really tough election choice for me this year - I was back and forth until the very end - I'm an Independent, and feel both sides have valid points and points that are better left on the cutting room floor... so I will say if anything I feel better about my choices this year because I just didn't vote for the lesser of 2 evils, I voted for someone I thought and hope was qualified for the position and could do some good in this country.

Bottom line it was neck and neck for me - and I cussed at both parties through this battle for the White House.

Thank you for the link - more education is a concept I can totally get behind!

Vis
01-21-2009, 03:39 PM
Education is the first key tool in any battle. If anything I think the best thing about this election and hopefully this presidency, will be that people take time to read between the lines and educate themselves regardless of what side they are on - look beyond what your favorite news station tells you - because you may only be getting one side of the story... This was a really tough election choice for me this year - I was back and forth until the very end - I'm an Independent, and feel both sides have valid points and points that are better left on the cutting room floor... so I will say if anything I feel better about my choices this year because I just didn't vote for the lesser of 2 evils, I voted for someone I thought and hope was qualified for the position and could do some good in this country.

Bottom line it was neck and neck for me - and I cussed at both parties through this battle for the White House.

Thank you for the link - more education is a concept I can totally get behind!


Education is the silver bullet. Education is everything. We don't need little changes. We need gigantic, monumental changes. Schools should be palaces. The competition for the best teachers should be fierce. They should be making six figure salaries. Schools should be incredibly expensive for government and absolutely free of charge to its citizens, just like national defense. That's my position. I just haven't figured out how to do it yet. quote

kittenfantastico76
01-21-2009, 05:12 PM
Education is the silver bullet. Education is everything. We don't need little changes. We need gigantic, monumental changes. Schools should be palaces. The competition for the best teachers should be fierce. They should be making six figure salaries. Schools should be incredibly expensive for government and absolutely free of charge to its citizens, just like national defense. That's my position. I just haven't figured out how to do it yet. quote

Well put! Teachers should be paid SO much more and given SO much more credit!!!!

Preacher
01-21-2009, 05:43 PM
Education is the silver bullet. Education is everything. We don't need little changes. We need gigantic, monumental changes. Schools should be palaces. The competition for the best teachers should be fierce. They should be making six figure salaries. Schools should be incredibly expensive for government and absolutely free of charge to its citizens, just like national defense. That's my position. I just haven't figured out how to do it yet. quote

Please tell me you are joking. . .


Because the less funded private schools put out much better students than a lot of the publicly OVERFUNDED schools.

It is simple.

1. More discipline
2. Teachers get FIRED for failing hence
3. There is no NEA to interfere.

Vis
01-21-2009, 06:49 PM
Please tell me you are joking. . .


Because the less funded private schools put out much better students than a lot of the publicly OVERFUNDED schools.

It is simple.

1. More discipline
2. Teachers get FIRED for failing hence
3. There is no NEA to interfere.

Could it have something to do with the parents of the private school kids? ya think? There in no such thing as an overfunded public school. The worst public school should be a great school. That is how to secure our future as a nation.

Preacher
01-21-2009, 07:23 PM
Could it have something to do with the parents of the private school kids? ya think? There in no such thing as an overfunded public school. The worst public school should be a great school. That is how to secure our future as a nation.

No. It doesn't have much to do with the parents. Because the private schools I am talking about and I see running are dealing with the same kids that are failing in the public school system. One parent families. Latch-key kids, etc.

The difference is the schools, the administration, the teachers, and the fact that money isn't wasted stupidly.


When you put more money into a school and it keeps failing, it is overfunded. You should pull all funding from the school, give the parents the option to take their funding in vouchers, and go to private schools that WORK.