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lamberts-lost-tooth
01-21-2009, 09:34 AM
Steelers Notebook: Ward will battle big odds, try to play
Wednesday, January 21, 2009
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Hines Ward will try to beat the odds and return to play football two weeks after a sprained MCL in his right knee.

"We are going to do everything in our power to make sure that he has the medical attention that he needs," coach Mike Tomlin said yesterday. "In his mind he is playing. So, chances are he is."

Ward's right knee was sprained in the first quarter of the AFC championship against Baltimore. The Steelers will play the Arizona Cardinals in the Super Bowl a week from Sunday. Usually, players do not return so quickly.

Running back Willie Parker had a sprained MCL from the third game of this season. He missed the next four games, a span that also included an open date. Defensive end Brett Keisel missed three games with a sprained MCL.

Ward was the MVP of Super Bowl XL in Detroit and has promised he would not miss this one.

"It is not going to be comfortable between now and game day in terms of making that happen," Tomlin said. "But it's not about comfort, particularly for Hines. I saw him this morning. He was down there aggressively getting after his rehabilitation and putting himself in the position to help the football team.

"We are definitely not going to cut him out. We are going to save a seat on the bus for 86."

Tomlin said yesterday that halfback Mewelde Moore and offensive guard Darnell Stapleton have ankle sprains that may limit them in practice this week but will not keep them out of the Super Bowl. Neither will offensive tackle Max Starks' knee sprain nor special-teamer Patrick Bailey's strained hamstring.

Center Justin Hartwig, who wore a brace on his sprained knee Sunday, came through fine, but Tomlin plans to go easy on him in practice as well this week.

The men in white
The Steelers will wear their white game jerseys as the visiting team in the Super Bowl, and that color has been significant for them over the years.

They wore white in two of their previous six Super Bowls -- their first when they beat the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl IX in New Orleans and their most recent, a victory against the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XL in Detroit.

They usually wear white jerseys on the road because the home team has first choice, but coach Bill Cowher chose white for Super Bowl XL, even though they were the home team for that game. He did so because they had worn white jerseys in their three playoff victories that led to the Super Bowl, all on the road.

The Arizona Cardinals chose first and will wear their red home jerseys in Tampa, Fla.

Disagreement
Tomlin did not agree with the call that overturned Santonio Holmes' touchdown reception against Baltimore. Referee Bill Carollo ruled Holmes did not complete the play before he fumbled when he hit the ground. To complete a play, a receiver must make what is described as a "football move."

"They said it was an incomplete pass," Tomlin said. "They said that he didn't establish a football move and that as he gained possession of the football he was in the process of going to the ground and, when that occurs, he has to maintain possession of the ball through contact with the ground.

"So the side step that he had after he caught the ball was not believed to be a football move."

Forget the Gatorade
Tomlin pulled away when some of his players tried to dump Gatorade on him Sunday.

"I am not a proponent of the Gatorade bath," Tomlin said. "I don't know where [the tradition] came from."

He said it was his first experience with it, "and, hopefully, my last -- not at the expense of losing, though."

Tunnel vision for Tomlin
Tomlin said he has not given much thought to coaching against two other finalists for the job he now has, Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt and his assistant head coach, Russ Grimm.

"As far as I know, Ken got the job in Arizona a full week before I got this one. I don't know the nature of that story. It really is irrelevant. If it's relevant for anyone, it is probably relevant for them.

"Me, I am just glad that I have this opportunity. I am glad that I work with these men. I am glad to have an opportunity to pursue the ultimate prize with them in a couple weeks"

Forget the jewelry, too
Asked when he last wore the Super Bowl XXXVII ring he earned as the secondary coach in Tampa Bay, Tomlin said: "Wow! I don't. I generally take it with me when I go home to Virginia because people want to see it, but I don't.

"For me, those experiences are in my head and my heart. The material possessions are less important to me. The most important thing about it for me is probably being able to give it to my children and letting them decide what they want to do with it.

"But I am not a jewelry guy. It is more about the experience for me than it is the ring."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09021/943195-66.stm

memphissteelergirl
01-21-2009, 10:16 AM
That's no less than what I would expect Hines to do. He's a baller....plain and simple. :thumbsup:

GodofGridiron
01-21-2009, 10:22 AM
Well.......im confident Hines will play. How effective he is remains to be seen. These next two weeks we need to prep Baker or Sweed for this big game. If Hines isnt 100 percent we might struggle in the passing game. Which is why its imperative we prep one of these other guys. I do believe in Limas......i think we can do some things with him. Lets get him orientated in this passing game with some sideline routes.

RoethlisBURGHer
01-21-2009, 10:44 AM
Hines Ward would play in the Super Bowl of they cut off his leg. Hell he would play in a preseason game if they cut off his leg Hines Ward has so much heart.

I would expect no less from Mike Tomlin. He's right, him coaching against Whiz/Grimm for the Lombardi holds no relevence for him. He didn't feel bad about them not getting the job and shouldn't, they have obviously done well for themselves in Arizona.

And GodofGridiron, Dallas Baker was cut I think the week after the Colts loss. He was put on the practive squad but he cannot be moved onto the active roster for the Super Bowl, you have to go into that game with the same roster you had in the Conference Championship Game.

drizze99
01-21-2009, 11:18 AM
Hines will play.... There are different degrees of sprains. We don't know how bad his is really and I am sure Tomlin will not divulge that info either.

TheSteelCurtain
01-21-2009, 11:35 AM
I heard we are bringing Matt Trannon and Cedrick Wilson in. (Joke).

I do really belive Limas is gonna have a huge game. Regardless of Ward's Condition. He has made some bonehead plays. But he is running routes and coming out of them a lot better than he did all season.

The_WARDen
01-21-2009, 11:42 AM
I really hope that Ward plays and is effective, cause I really do not want to see Sweed anywhere near that field!

fansince'76
01-21-2009, 11:46 AM
I really hope that Ward plays and is effective, cause I really do not want to see Sweed anywhere near that field!

I was discussing Sweed's drops in the SD and B'more games with a Cowboys fan here at work yesterday who is originally from Texas and he made a point I never considered. Sweed is a product of Texas and very possibly the cold affected him adversely which may explain why he dropped those long passes two weeks in a row(?) Not sure how valid that point is, though. It won't be cold in Tampa, I do know that much.

Sharkissle29
01-21-2009, 11:52 AM
I was discussing Sweed's drops in the SD and B'more games with a Cowboys fan here at work yesterday who is originally from Texas and he made a point I never considered. Sweed is a product of Texas and very possibly the cold affected him adversely which may explain why he dropped those long passes two weeks in a row(?) Not sure how valid that point is, though. It won't be cold in Tampa, I do know that much.

could be the case you never know. but if he breaks out in the superbowl which is a far greater game than the afc championship, then u could really speculate....

steelreserve
01-21-2009, 11:53 AM
It seems like every new report about the injury is progressively worse. That sucks. Hopefully it's not more serious than they're letting on.

Either way, we ought to be fine with or without him at 100 percent. If we didn't have trouble moving the ball against Baltimore, it should be much easier against this sad-sack gang of buffoons.

Fire Haley
01-21-2009, 12:37 PM
The SB will be in Sweed's hands.

Fire Haley
01-21-2009, 04:23 PM
It seems like every new report about the injury is progressively worse. .

Maybe not...



Ward: If game were Sunday 'I would play'

Wednesday, January 21, 2009
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Wide receiver Hines Ward said today that if the Super Bowl were held this Sunday, he would play.

That he has an extra week to get his sprained right knee ready for the Arizona Cardinals is a bonus.

"Things feel good," Ward said. "The MRI came out pretty good; where I sprained it at was in a good place and it's a great place to heal. I have a whole week off and we'll see what happens next week."

Asked though if the game were to be played this Sunday, Ward said, "I would play."

SteelersinCA
01-21-2009, 04:35 PM
Awesome, give him 2 weeks off, he'll be fine.

Frankie3521
01-21-2009, 04:37 PM
If Hines can't go, I understand, I wouldn't mind Sweed coming out and having a 130 yeard game with 2 TD's. Oh wait, thats not going to happen :(.

Frankie3521
01-21-2009, 04:38 PM
The SB will be in Sweed's hands.

Oh no, lets hope he doesn't drop the ball.


haha, get it? GET IT?

:chuckle:

BlastFurnace
01-21-2009, 05:26 PM
ESPN Pittsburgh is reporting that Hines received a good report on his MRI. He should be able to play.

One thing I have used in some rehab before is Magnet Therapy. I don't know what it is about Magnets, but they really do help with the healing process.

Preacher
01-21-2009, 05:55 PM
here was the injury report on Ward: --WR Hines Ward (http://www.kffl.com/player/1546/nfl): ESPN.com reports Pittsburgh Steelers WR Hines Ward (knee) suffered a slightly sprained medial collateral ligament in his right knee during the AFC Championship game. Ward, however, is expected to be ready for the Super Bowl, the team said, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Now, a slight sprain is most likely a grade one sprain. Here is the info on that:
What is a medial ligament injury?

Injury to the MCL often occurs after an impact to the outside of the knee when the knee is slightly bent. The MCL on the inside of the knee becomes stretched and if the force is great enough its fibres will tear. The deep part of ligament is prone to becoming damaged first and this may lead to medial meniscal damage also. See also Medial Cartilage Meniscus Injury (http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/front/knee/medialmeniscus.htm)
Medial collateral ligament injuries are graded 1, 2 or 3 depending on the degree of damage sustained:
Grade 1 symptoms:



Mild tenderness on the inside of the knee over the ligament.
Usually no swelling.
When the knee is bent to 30 degrees and force applied to the outside of the knee (stressing the medial ligament) pain is felt but there is no joint laxity (looseness) (video (javascript:popUp('http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/front/knee/video/4-medial_ligament.php'))).


http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/front/knee/medialligament.htm


IF that is true... then we put a brace on him and send him back out. He should be fine and able to compete without any dropoff.

Glace
01-21-2009, 08:08 PM
No way ward doesn't play.

MCL strain....I did that once. I never really seemed to lose any stability or ability to run, etc...it was mostly just painful when I did it....

Hines will throw a brace or a wrap on that baby and be just fine...because with the adrenaline of being in the superbowl, the only thing that's going to hurt either team is a loss.


As for Tomlin's comment on the gatorade bath....I can't wait to see him get one in a week in a half!!! (I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE!!)

Fire Haley
01-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Oh no, lets hope he doesn't drop the ball.


haha, get it? GET IT?

:chuckle:

Yeah - what I really meant to say was the Lombardi trophy is in Sweed's hands, but I didn't want to scare anybody.

stillers4me
01-21-2009, 10:59 PM
Just take the dang MCL out.......he does fine without the ACL. Who needs all those extra ligaments anyway? :flap:

devilsdancefloor
01-21-2009, 11:04 PM
The SB will be in Sweed's hands.

i hope the bowl isnt glass :laughing:

Cheppy
01-21-2009, 11:49 PM
I hate the fact we're even discussing this for Hines Ward has basically been a security blanket for this team year in & year out. 3rd & long, Hines is always going to find an open spot & help convert on 3rd down. The man has an uncanny ability to move the chains. But I take solace in the fact that Terrell Owens had an injury that was deemed worse than what was diagnosed for Ward & he played a whale of a game in the Super Bowl. And that piece of garbage isn't 1/2 as tough as Hines.

He'll be ready.

TheSteelCurtain
01-21-2009, 11:56 PM
^^^^ I feel he will be ready and 100 percent. Not to mention what Hines Does for us on the run. And in that Bunch Set. Even if he dont get the ball that means he drew 2 defenders and someone is open.

Cheppy
01-22-2009, 12:23 AM
Not to mention what Hines Does for us on the run. And in that Bunch Set. Even if he dont get the ball that means he drew 2 defenders and someone is open.

Yes.

redst3
01-22-2009, 04:37 AM
Here's another article along the same lines from NY Times. What I am reading says to me he isnt going to be 100% (i hope I am wrong).... I hope he isnt pushing himself too much.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/sports/football/22steelers.html?ref=sports

Steelers’ Ward Works Overtime to Speed Healing
By JUDY BATTISTA
PITTSBURGH — Everyone has heard of a high ankle sprain. Steelers receiver Hines Ward said Wednesday that he had a high knee sprain — and that it was a good thing.

Ward’s right knee was injured in the first quarter of Pittsburgh’s 23-14 victory over the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, and he missed the second half. A magnetic resonance imaging test showed that the medial collateral ligament was sprained, an injury that generally leaves a player sidelined at least three weeks, as it did Steelers running back Willie Parker early this season.

But Feb. 1 is the Super Bowl and Ward, who was named the most valuable player when the Steelers won the championship game three years ago, said he would be able to play, even if the game were this Sunday. He is certain that he will be ready to play in 10 days.

“No doubt,” he said Wednesday.

Ward said the M.R.I. showed that the sprain was closer to the quadriceps muscle. That, he explained, was a relatively good spot because there is increased blood flow in the area, which should speed healing.

“If you want to sprain it, sprain it there,” he said.

Ward has put himself on a round-the-clock rehabilitation scheduling, twice as much as doctors ordered. He wakes multiple times during the night to do more exercises, take more electrical stimulation, apply more ice.

Steelers Coach Mike Tomlin said Wednesday that Ward’s knee would probably feel miserable, but that he was certain Ward would play. In a stroke of bravado, Ward said the knee felt good. And he jogged lightly during Wednesday’s practice.

“My sleep time is cut down dramatically,” Ward said.

No matter. He will not practice this week and does not expect to be on the field until next week; the Steelers are scheduled to arrive in Tampa, Fla., on Monday afternoon.

Ward’s injury may not be carrying the drama of Tom Brady’s rambles in a walking boot last year in New York City, but Ward is still critically important to the Steelers. During the regular season, he caught 81 passes for 1,043 yards and 7 touchdowns. Against the Ravens, Ward had three catches for 55 yards, including a reception on third-and-12 over the deep middle for 45 yards on the first drive of the game.

After he was sidelined, the Steelers struggled to sustain drives. Without him, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger went more often to Santonio Holmes and Limas Sweed, and they had trouble holding on to the ball.

Ward is known as perhaps the best-blocking receiver in the N.F.L., but he is also an important security blanket for Roethlisberger because of his dependability.

“When I run and get 20 yards, he’s like another offensive lineman,” Parker said Wednesday. “He ignites the offense.”

Galax Steeler
01-22-2009, 04:48 AM
There is no way they are going to keep Ward out of the superbowl he may have some discomfort but he will be out there making plays.

Steelcitygal87
01-22-2009, 07:29 AM
I am watching ESPN and they just had Rachel Nichols on there telling about Hines and Fitzgerald sending text messages back and forth about the Super Bowl. Fitz told him...."How about letting us have one since you already do" and Hines replied " I want 2" lol. :tt03::tt03::tt03:

stlrtruck
01-22-2009, 09:19 AM
I can see Hines going old school - take the shot to numb the pain and play football!!!

The_WARDen
01-22-2009, 11:32 AM
I was discussing Sweed's drops in the SD and B'more games with a Cowboys fan here at work yesterday who is originally from Texas and he made a point I never considered. Sweed is a product of Texas and very possibly the cold affected him adversely which may explain why he dropped those long passes two weeks in a row(?) Not sure how valid that point is, though. It won't be cold in Tampa, I do know that much.

that doesn't bode well for him if that's his issue....he is playing in Pittsburgh and it tends to be cold on occasion.

SC Steeler Steve
01-22-2009, 11:49 AM
I can see Hines going old school - take the shot to numb the pain and play football!!!

Oh yeah, I told my son during the second half of the Baltimore game that if Hines is needed badly enough he will fight his way onto the field. And I still believe that.

stlrtruck
01-22-2009, 12:02 PM
that doesn't bode well for him if that's his issue....he is playing in Pittsburgh and it tends to be cold on occasion.

I don't know, when the sun goes down here, it does get down into the 50's, 40's. Heck even this morning it was 30 degrees. I know that's not Pittsburgh cold but it could still prove to be cold enough - but then again that would most likely affect the cards more than anything.

Fire Haley
01-22-2009, 01:04 PM
time for the small animal sacrifices

Dino 6 Rings
01-22-2009, 01:29 PM
time for the small animal sacrifices

Way ahead of you...me and the Football Gods are tight!

stlrtruck
01-22-2009, 01:40 PM
Way ahead of you...me and the Football Gods are tight!

I thought the bigger the game, the bigger the sacrifice. Don't you need an elephant or something for the football gods and the superbowl? :laughing: