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mesaSteeler
01-22-2009, 10:01 PM
Not card-carrying Cardinals fan

By Dan Shaughnessy
Globe Columnist / January 18, 2009
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2009/01/18/not_card_carrying_cardinals_fan/

PHOENIX - I loathe the Arizona Cardinals.


OK, they are a feel-good story for the rest of America. They have 37-year-old quarterback Kurt Warner, who was bagging groceries before he won a Super Bowl with the Rams. They have local favorite Sean Morey (Marshfield, Brown) and humble all-world wideout Larry Fitzgerald, who is the son of a sportswriter (gotta love that). They wear great colors and went decades without a sniff of the playoffs. They play in the champion-starved desert, and haven't won an NFL title since they were the Chicago Cardinals in 1947. This is only their second winning season since 1984.

Still, I can't forgive them for what I saw in snowy Foxborough last month.

The Cardinals quit at Gillette Stadium Dec. 21 against the Patriots. They laid down like dogs. They didn't want to be there, had nothing to gain by winning, so they tanked. It was worse than Sonny Liston in Lewiston, Maine. Worse than Manny Ramírez in his final days with the Red Sox. And now, it's being rewarded.

Let me refresh your memory:

The Cardinals, who this afternoon host the NFC Championship game against the Philadelphia Eagles, lost to the Patriots, 47-7, four weeks ago today. The score doesn't come close to explaining how bad it was. If you were among those who ponied up a couple hundred for the privilege, you know.

It was 30 degrees and snowing at kickoff. With a division title assured, and no seeding at stake, the Cardinals decided to roll over. It would have been more honorable if they just stayed in the locker room and forfeited, but that isn't allowed by the NFL. So they lined up like 11 tomato cans and took their beating.

It was 21-0 with 11:29 left in the second quarter when the Cardinals finally got a first down. It was 31-0 at halftime. By the end of the third quarter, it was 44-0 and the Patriots had 470 net yards to Arizona's 45. New England scored on nine of its first 10 possessions. Try to remember, please, these are the same Cardinals who today will play for the right to go to the Super Bowl.

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt, who seems like a fine fellow, treated the game against the Patriots like an exhibition. He lifted Warner (6 for 18, 30 yards) after two-plus quarters. He rested star wideout Anquan Boldin (shoulder) and running back/kickoff returner J.J. Arrington (knee). He also ran the ball on eight of the first nine plays, even though the pass-crazy Cardinals came into the game with the worst ground attack in the NFL. We can certainly understand keeping the ball on the ground in bad weather, but Whisenhunt said, "We would have [run the ball] regardless of the weather. We wanted to work on our run game."

It was a disgrace. The Cardinals should have been punished by Roger Goodell. The commish is always talking about the integrity of the sport. This game was not on the level. The Cardinals tanked and now are one win from the Super Bowl.

Not OK.

The Cardinals are frauds and their fans are frauds.

Super Bowl-bound? Please. This team is here only because it plays in the most ridiculous division in football (your Patriots went 4-0 against the hideous NFC West). Arizona went 9-7 in 2008, thanks to a 6-0 record in its division. The Cardinals lost three of their last five by an aggregate 130-41. That includes their Thanksgiving turkey (48-20) against these same Eagles. Arizona won exactly one regular-season game against a playoff team, beating Miami in September. The Dolphins were the sorriest NFL playoff entry - unless you count the Cardinals.

Two weeks ago, the Cardinals almost had a television blackout of their playoff opener against the Atlanta Falcons. It was the Cardinals' first postseason game in Arizona and they had to paper the house to get the sellout needed for free local TV. The Cardinals' defense stepped up against rookie quarterback Matt Ryan, and they advanced with a 30-24 win. Last week, Carolina's Jake Delhomme delivered Arizona to the NFC Championship game by fumbling once and throwing five interceptions.

Arizona has allowed only 135 rushing yards and 10 rushing first downs in two playoff games. And now the Cardinals are a heartbeat from the Super Bowl. They sold out today's game in six minutes.

University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale is where Patriot dreams came to die last February. It's hard on the eyes for Patriots fans. But it's not downright offensive, like the sight of Arizona's December quitters playing in the NFC Championship game.

Dan Shaughnessy is a Globe columnist. He can be reached at dshaughnessy@globe.com.

(I never thought I'd agree with someone from Boston. - mesa)

devilsdancefloor
01-22-2009, 10:25 PM
:jawdrop: WOW ! I wonder if he would tell us what he really feels about it:flap:

IAWarnerFan
01-22-2009, 10:31 PM
His comments are TOTAL GARBAGE! Way to generalze!:screwy:

MasterOfPuppets
01-22-2009, 10:36 PM
while i agree with a lot of what he said.....arizona still won the playoff games to get to the superbowl....:noidea:

mesaSteeler
01-22-2009, 10:42 PM
His comments are TOTAL GARBAGE! Way to generalze!:screwy:

Truth hurts. Deal with it and stop your whining.

IAWarnerFan
01-22-2009, 10:44 PM
Truth hurts. Deal with it and stop your whining.

Says the person that loves to generalize about opponents fans!:popcorn:

TheSteelCurtain
01-22-2009, 10:56 PM
Getting 60,000 people to come to a football game after they extened the sell out period is not fans. Its Hipsters. How many games did ya sell out last year, or the year before.

Fans are taking over opposing teams stadium 3,000 miles away. Fans are selling out every game in the past 35 years. Fans are being on a waiting list for tickets for 5 years hoping you might get a preseason game, Fans are pounding Ahrn Cities and Eating Sandwiches with French Fries and Cole Slaw on it.

Buying a Fitzgerald jersey just cause your team made the playoffs this millenium is not a Fan. Its a Hipster.

IAWarnerFan
01-22-2009, 10:59 PM
Getting 60,000 people to come to a football game after they extened the sell out period is not fans. Its Hipsters. How many games did ya sell out last year, or the year before.

Fans are taking over opposing teams stadium 3,000 miles away. Fans are selling out every game in the past 35 years. Fans are being on a waiting list for tickets for 5 years hoping you might get a preseason game, Fans are pounding Ahrn Cities and Eating Sandwiches with French Fries and Cole Slaw on it.

Buying a Fitzgerald jersey just cause your team made the playoffs this millenium is not a Fan. Its a Hipster.

Well if I find any AZ jerseys here in Iowa I'll be the first to let you know!:banging:

82CardsGrad
01-22-2009, 11:00 PM
Getting 60,000 people to come to a football game after they extened the sell out period is not fans. Its Hipsters. How many games did ya sell out last year, or the year before.

Fans are taking over opposing teams stadium 3,000 miles away. Fans are selling out every game in the past 35 years. Fans are being on a waiting list for tickets for 5 years hoping you might get a preseason game, Fans are pounding Ahrn Cities and Eating Sandwiches with French Fries and Cole Slaw on it.

Buying a Fitzgerald jersey just cause your team made the playoffs this millenium is not a Fan. Its a Hipster.


Hey, you post on this board so you must be a "knowledgeable" football fan... Therefore, you must know that since the new stadium opened 2 years ago, every pre-season, regular and now post-season game has been sold out... right? :wink02:

mesaSteeler
01-22-2009, 11:02 PM
Says the person that loves to generalize about opponents fans!:popcorn:

Generalize! I've been in Arizona longer than the wretched Arizona Turdnails. Hell I even voted against public funding for their ugly birdcage in Glendale. The bandwagon Turdnial fans like you are total frauds.

Two weeks ago the stinking Turdnails couldn't even find enough "fans" to sell out a playoff game with out TWO extensions from the NFL. And you have the gall to call yourself fans who can't even go to air conditioned, indoor, stadium.

On Monday I went out shoping. At the mall in Tempe I saw only three Turdnial jerseys. I saw six Steelers jerseys including myself. One was worn by a fine gentleman from Texas who not only wearing a Harrison jersey but his kids were all wearing Steelers gear as well.

Then I went over to Chandler Fashion square and I saw four Steelers to one Turdnail jersey.

A totally pathetic showing by so called "fans" of the Turdnails.

By the way I didn't write the article I just agreed with it. I have no respect for a team that mails in a game because it's cold outside.

fansince'76
01-22-2009, 11:02 PM
Sounds like the article was written by a typical douchebag Pats* fan who wants to cry over how unfair the playoff system is in the NFL. Oh wait, it was. :coffee:

TheSteelCurtain
01-22-2009, 11:02 PM
Wow 2 whole years. Sound like its time to take the training diapers off.

82CardsGrad
01-22-2009, 11:03 PM
Wow 2 whole years. Sound like its time to take the training diapers off.

Stadium opened in '06... so, ummm, yea - "2 whole years"... :thumbsup:

mesaSteeler
01-22-2009, 11:04 PM
Hey, you post on this board so you must be a "knowledgeable" football fan... Therefore, you must know that since the new stadium opened 2 years ago, every pre-season, regular and now post-season game has been sold out... right? :wink02:

Oh they have been sold out and the bandwagonTurdnail fans sell their tickets to the fans of the opposing team.

MasterOfPuppets
01-22-2009, 11:06 PM
Hey, you post on this board so you must be a "knowledgeable" football fan... Therefore, you must know that since the new stadium opened 2 years ago, every pre-season, regular and now post-season game has been sold out... right? :wink02:
then why in the hell did it take so long to sell out a playoff game ! PLAYOFF GAME !!... are the cardnal fans not aware that there is a post season? :toofunny:

82CardsGrad
01-22-2009, 11:07 PM
Oh they have been sold out and the bandwagonTurdnail fans sell their tickets to the fans of the opposing team.

Get your ass over to Glendale for a game before spouting off like some bitter, ignorant moron...

I've been a season ticket holder for quite a while. And no doubt, when we played at Sun Devil, it was a joke...
But since we've been at UoP, the home field advantage has been HUGE. Our home record at UoP is now something like 15 & 2... But yea - that's because our guys enjoy playing at home, but in front of a stadium filled with opposing fans... What a joke... :rofl:

82CardsGrad
01-22-2009, 11:08 PM
then why in the hell did it take so long to sell out a playoff game ! PLAYOFF GAME !!... are the cardnal fans not aware that there is a post season? :toofunny:


Could be... since we've only been in like 3 in the last 90 years...

:thumbsup:

IAWarnerFan
01-22-2009, 11:09 PM
Generalize! I've been in Arizona longer than the wretched Arizona Turdnails. Hell I even voted against public funding for their ugly birdcage in Glendale. The bandwagon Turdnial fans like you are total frauds.

Two weeks ago the stinking Turdnails couldn't even find enough "fans" to sell out a playoff game with out TWO extensions from the NFL. And you have the gall to call yourself fans who can't even go to air conditioned, indoor, stadium.

On Monday I went out shoping. At the mall in Tempe I saw only three Turdnial jerseys. I saw six Steelers jerseys including myself. One was worn by a fine gentleman from Texas who not only wearing a Harrison jersey but his kids were all wearing Steelers gear as well.

Then I went over to Chandler Fashion square and I saw four Steelers to one Turdnail jersey.

A totally pathetic showing by so called "fans" of the Turdnails.

By the way I didn't write the article I just agreed with it. I have no respect for a team that mails in a game because it's cold outside.

Don't you suppose maybe, just maybe the IA in my ID indicates I'm in IOWA??? But don't let that stop you from throwing me right in with your Mesa Cardinals fans.:banging:

TheSteelCurtain
01-22-2009, 11:09 PM
While on the subject i would like to thank the Cardinals Fan who let me get 50 yard line playoff tickets for 7 bucks.

Preacher
01-22-2009, 11:12 PM
Sounds like sour grapes from a typical Boston sports fan too me.

MasterOfPuppets
01-22-2009, 11:13 PM
While on the subject i would like to thank the Cardinals Fan who let me get 50 yard line playoff tickets for 7 bucks.:jawdrop:

82CardsGrad
01-22-2009, 11:14 PM
While on the subject i would like to thank the Cardinals Fan who let me get 50 yard line playoff tickets for 7 bucks.

No doubt... and like wise, I would like to thank - again - the Steelers fan who let me get 35 yard line tickets for free, to the 1995 AFC Championship Game against the Colts!! Awesome! :thumbsup:

fansince'76
01-22-2009, 11:16 PM
Sounds like sour grapes from a typical Boston sports fan too me.

Yep. Funny how in between all the pissing and moaning he does about how unfair it was that a 9-7 team from a DIFFERENT CONFERENCE made it to the playoffs while his team was left out of it, that he neglected to mention that if his own team didn't get their asses kicked by the 8-8 team in their OWN CONFERENCE that also made the playoffs, that they would have wound up winning their division and making the playoffs as well? :coffee:

TheSteelCurtain
01-22-2009, 11:18 PM
No doubt... and like wise, I would like to thank - again - the Steelers fan who let me get 35 yard line tickets for free, to the 1995 AFC Championship Game against the Colts!! Awesome! :thumbsup:


Was that before or after the Air Tight Ski Pole.

82CardsGrad
01-22-2009, 11:20 PM
Was that before or after the Air Tight Ski Pole.

Dang you guys are hysterical!!!

:rofl:

Buzz05
01-23-2009, 05:53 AM
Sorry the writer of this story is garbage. He is nothing more then a Pats fan eating sour grapes because karma is a b!tch. The Cards are here because they deserve to be. Its the way the playoffs are set up. They did what they had to do. For someone to write a BS story about how one team doesn't deserve to be in The Show is dumb. This guy needs to be canned. If you don't deserve to be playing in the game then you wouldn't be.

section514
01-23-2009, 06:22 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-cardinals-boldin&prov=ap&type=lgns

memphissteelergirl
01-23-2009, 09:04 AM
Sounds like sour grapes from a typical Boston sports fan too me.

:iagree:

Ya gotta take anything these "mass-holes" say with a grain of salt....(uh...pardon my language, Preacher :blush:)