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TruckedBy86
01-24-2009, 09:40 PM
Interesting topic came up at my friends house tonight. Some said no way....I don't think it is impossible. What are the thoughts of the board

SteelerDeli_Dad
01-24-2009, 09:42 PM
With another ring...I say yes.

IAWarnerFan
01-24-2009, 09:45 PM
4 time pro bowler and a Super Bowl MVP. He still has a few years left and it's very possible. JMO :popcorn:

jev7452
01-24-2009, 10:42 PM
i think its possible. he is recognized as the hardest hitting and best blocking wide receiver in the league and if he has a couple more real good seasons, then why not??

JPSEMP
01-24-2009, 10:43 PM
With a td or two and another ring he would have a 40/60 chance. Another MVP and I think it swings to 70/30 in Hines favor. Now what would make us all happy and would in my opinion seal the deal would be 2 more rings. I think a couple of championships and the widely held opinion of best blocking wr to ever play will more than make up for smaller reception #s.

Preacher
01-24-2009, 11:11 PM
It'll take a few years of eligibility. Who knows.

I think if he plays three more years and gets a ring this year, and another ring.. and maybe another MVP, then absolutely.

He will ahve to stay at the same level of competition he is at now however.

SC Steeler Steve
01-24-2009, 11:13 PM
With the prestigous Steeler recieveing records added to everything talked about here I would certainly vote for him. I think he definitly has a good shot.

MasterOfPuppets
01-24-2009, 11:19 PM
as of now....no....this year is his first 1000 yd season since 2004.....he needs 2-3 more, and another sb mvp sure would help.

Blitzburgh_Fever
01-24-2009, 11:42 PM
as of now....no....this year is his first 1000 yd season since 2004.....he needs 2-3 more, and another sb mvp sure would help.

I dunno, I think we're starting to see Ward finally ge the recognition he deserves. People aren't just saying he hits hard -- they're saying he has instilled that into the Pittsburgh Steelers. You can't watch Steelers receiver block without Ward's name being mentioned in some way. I think stuff like that has a lot to do with getting into the HoF. The game is all flash now, so who really knows though.

His 800 receptions, nearly 10k yards receiving, and 72 TDs are just icing :wink02:

Blitzburgh_Fever
01-24-2009, 11:45 PM
Michael Irvin
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Receptions 750
Receiving yards 11,904
Touchdowns 65

Michael Irvin's numbers, just to augment my point above. Irvin had four rings, but Ward has 1 and if things go well Sunday, 2. Irvin also had all the legal troubles. It'd be particularly annoying if Ward got passed over while the league annointed Irvin (not that Irvin doesn't belong there).

ben2hines=6
01-24-2009, 11:48 PM
if we win next sunday he's in...ur talking about statistically the best ever in a steelers uniform, the very likeable charismatic player who demands respect throughout the league....not to mention the best blocking reciever in nfl history

MDSteel15
01-24-2009, 11:57 PM
Michael Irvin
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Receptions 750
Receiving yards 11,904
Touchdowns 65

Michael Irvin's numbers, just to augment my point above. Irvin had four rings, but Ward has 1 and if things go well Sunday, 2. Irvin also had all the legal troubles. It'd be particularly annoying if Ward got passed over while the league annointed Irvin (not that Irvin doesn't belong there).

Unfortunately, Irvin has 3 rings and a lot of coke up his nose! But we have talked about this at where I work and unbelievably it was unanimous, Hines is IN!! I am the only Steeler fan in this discussion at work! The others are Ravens, Cowboys, Redskins, Jets, Dolphins, Bengals and Chargers fans...... :coffee:

MasterOfPuppets
01-25-2009, 12:25 AM
[QUOTE=Blitzburgh_Fever;542318]I dunno, I think we're starting to see Ward finally ge the recognition he deserves. People aren't just saying he hits hard -- they're saying he has instilled that into the Pittsburgh Steelers. You can't watch Steelers receiver block without Ward's name being mentioned in some way. I think stuff like that has a lot to do with getting into the HoF. The game is all flash now, so who really knows though.

His 800 receptions, nearly 10k yards receiving, and 72 TDs are just icing :wink02:[/QUOTE

as of now....hines is ranked 34th in carrear yardage, with 7 currently active receivers in front of him.
he's 19 th in receptions with 6 active players in front of him


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_receiving_yards_l eaders

JackHammer
01-25-2009, 02:29 AM
Hines Ward will approach or surpass the 1000 career reception mark. Hines Ward will approach and maybe surpass the 100 career TD mark. Hines Ward will have 12-13 seasons with 50 or more catches. He's is already famous for his devastatingly effective blocking. That's important because it ensures that, unlike many great blockers of the past/present(not just WR's), Ward won't be overlooked in that regard. He'll go down as a great WR who changed the way the WR position is played with his devastating blocks, much like Swann changed things with his acrobatic style. Go check out the kids at the local high school games in the Pittsburgh area. It's safe to say that he's rubbing off onto some of them :laughing: He'll be in the HOF one day.

Michael Keller
01-25-2009, 04:00 AM
To move into the FOR CERTAIN category add one more ring , one more MVP , or just 2more Super Bowl victories , play three more years increasing the stats and do something DRAMATIC like limping around on a bad leg while catching 2 or 3 touch down passes on Sunday. LOL .

In my mind the guy gets just one more Super Bowl victory and plays 3 more good years he should be a first ballot selection.

RoethlisBURGHer
01-25-2009, 05:41 AM
Michael Irvin got in because of his three rings and decent stats. In those three rings, he didn't get an MVP.

Ward has better stats, one ring (two on Sunday), one of those rings garnered a SB MVP, no legal trouble, and he blocks and hits like a linebacker.

It may not be first ballot, but I definatly think he gets in...within his first five years on the ballot.

Galax Steeler
01-25-2009, 06:14 AM
I would have to say Ward will make it with his play and the numbers he is getting as someone stated above it may not be the first time around but I think he will get in.

AllD
01-25-2009, 06:49 AM
Ward will make the HOF as sure as the sun rises everyday.

SteelerFanInATL
01-25-2009, 07:19 AM
Ward makes it not because he is a spectacular receiver who puts up big numbers, but for the fact he is a all round receiver, and most of all a football player. Swan and Stallworth probably have more big & exciting plays but can you remember eithor of those HOF'ers putting a big hit on someone. Ward makes the HOF because he is a
"football player":banging::banging: who plays receiver. JMO.

86WARD
01-25-2009, 07:40 AM
I'm a huge Ward fan...obviously and I'd love to say he's a first ballot Hall of Famer...however, I don't think he is. I think he's deserving, but not sure he'd get in. I do however believe that if he gets another Ring, he'd have a great shot at getting in and if he were to score SBXLIII MVP, he'd be a lock...

But as of right now, he needs another ring to be a sure thing. He's got better numbers than Swann and Stallworth...obviously...so take it for what it's worth.

IronFan
01-25-2009, 07:49 AM
I agree with 86Ward. It wouldn't surprise me though if Ward became Art Monk and was the talk every year as the guy that probably deserves in but always gets passed up.

stlrtruck
01-25-2009, 08:07 AM
I think initially he'll be looked over because he wasn't as flashy as some others during his time (i.e. ocho stinko, TO), but eventually voters will remember that he was an all around WR and team player and that along with his Super Bowl MVP and Steelers records will get him in the Hall.

T.Richardson
01-25-2009, 12:06 PM
He should get in. He has 800 career catches, close to 10,000 yards, around 70 TD catches, also he is the all time leader in catches, yards, and TD's in the playoffs. 4 time pro bowler, 1 time Superbowl MVP. If that doesnt spell Canton, then I dont know what he has to do.

MasterOfPuppets
01-25-2009, 12:15 PM
To move into the FOR CERTAIN category add one more ring , one more MVP , or just 2more Super Bowl victories , play three more years increasing the stats and do something DRAMATIC like limping around on a bad leg while catching 2 or 3 touch down passes on Sunday. LOL .

In my mind the guy gets just one more Super Bowl victory and plays 3 more good years he should be a first ballot selection.chris carter.......did NOT even get in on the first try.

tyler289
01-25-2009, 12:37 PM
From another board I post on:

And Hines is a borderline HOF if he has 3-4 solid to above average years. If he has a big day on SB sunday that will only help but look at his stats:

22nd in receptions (if he gets 100 more - not unlikely at all, he moves to 10th)
34th in receiving yards (another 1,000 puts him 23rd)
28th in receiving touchdowns (another 10 puts him 18th)

Super Bowl XL MVP
4 probowls
3 all-pros

All-time Steelers leader in yards, receiving touchdowns, and catches, ahead of hall-of-famers john stallworth and lynn swann (also the steelers postseason leader in catches and yards, ahead of both as well)


he's only 32 so he could play for another 5 years. Say he gets 200 more catches (40 a year), that would put him over 1,000 catches, 6th on the list, ahead Art Monk. Say he gets 2,000 more yards (500 a year), that would put him 19th all-time. Another 20 touchdowns (4 a year) would put him 9th all-time, ahead of tons of hall-of-famers.

Very conceivable he makes it. Not a lock by any means, but it's certainly possible.

MasterOfPuppets
01-25-2009, 12:44 PM
From another board I post on:

And Hines is a borderline HOF if he has 3-4 solid to above average years. If he has a big day on SB sunday that will only help but look at his stats:

22nd in receptions (if he gets 100 more - not unlikely at all, he moves to 10th)
34th in receiving yards (another 1,000 puts him 23rd)
28th in receiving touchdowns (another 10 puts him 18th)

Super Bowl XL MVP
4 probowls
3 all-pros

All-time Steelers leader in yards, receiving touchdowns, and catches, ahead of hall-of-famers john stallworth and lynn swann (also the steelers postseason leader in catches and yards, ahead of both as well)..


he's only 32 so he could play for another 5 years. Say he gets 200 more catches (40 a year), that would put him over 1,000 catches, 6th on the list, ahead Art Monk. Say he gets 2,000 more yards (500 a year), that would put him 19th all-time. Another 20 touchdowns (4 a year) would put him 9th all-time, ahead of tons of hall-of-famers.

Very conceivable he makes it. Not a lock by any means, but it's certainly possible.
keep in mind, a few of those guys in front of him on those stats are still playing.....moss, holt,bruce,harrison,owens,galloway, gonzalas,muhammed, mason....

tyler289
01-25-2009, 01:26 PM
keep in mind, a few of those guys in front of him on those stats are still playing.....moss, holt,bruce,harrison,owens,galloway, gonzalas,muhammed, mason....

That's certainly true, but his numbers will be top 20 just about across the board. He's played on a run-first team his whole career and still produced at a possible hall of fame level.

Dino 6 Rings
01-25-2009, 06:57 PM
If ESPN can spend 2 weeks asking the same question about a QB who only started and played for 5 full seasons of his 11 year career...than DAMN EFFING RIGHT! Hines is going to Canton!

Russell-T
01-25-2009, 07:19 PM
:tt02:Hines Ward is in. Tyler 289 said it best, he played on a run first team his entire career. You have to factor in his entire body of work. He re-defined how a receiver is supposed to block. Hines Ward will be a Hall of Famer someday.

1stcav02
01-25-2009, 07:38 PM
100% for sure Hall of Famer, maybe not first ballot though. Doesn't have super numbers like some, he will go in as a great football player not so much a wide receiver.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 07:42 PM
100% for sure Hall of Famer, maybe not first ballot though. Doesn't have super numbers like some, he will go in as a great football player not so much a wide receiver.

I Agree with what you said. Just depends who is on the ballot. If Marvin Harrison and Randy Moss are on the same ballot maybee not. Even though i would take Hines over these 2 anyday.

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