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T.Richardson
01-25-2009, 02:37 PM
They sound like Chargers fans.

Steelers
01-25-2009, 03:18 PM
Aw, leave 'em alone. They, like their team, are not used to success.

HometownGal
01-25-2009, 03:22 PM
Guys - we've been there many times before - this is the Arizona Cards first shot at a Super Bowl title, so I can understand their excitement. I was just as excited for Super Bowl IX in 1974.

I have no problem with those who have followed the team for all of the years when they were "bird seed", but from what I find laughable are the "fans" who hopped on their bandwagon this season, swing from BB to BB like Tarzan thumping their chests as though they're the greatest thing since cheesecake. Sure they've had a "Cinderella season" and have played well in the playoffs (coming into the postseason with a 9-7 record as champs of the NFC West), but they just don't seem to take our D as seriously as they should and all we seem to hear is . . . . but, but, but Warner & Fitz. :blah::blah: Dick Lebeau is a very experienced, seasoned and well respected NFL DC - they don't seem to take him seriously either and that just may be their biggest mistake.

The clock is going to strike midnight for Cinderella on February 1, 2009.

IAWarnerFan
01-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Guys - we've been there many times before - this is the Arizona Cards first shot at a Super Bowl title, so I can understand their excitement. I was just as excited for Super Bowl IX in 1974.

I have no problem with those who have followed the team for all of the years when they were "bird seed", but from what I find laughable are the "fans" who hopped on their bandwagon this season, swing from BB to BB like Tarzan thumping their chests as though they're the greatest thing since cheesecake. Sure they've had a "Cinderella season" and have played well in the playoffs (coming into the postseason with a 9-7 record as champs of the NFC West), but they just don't seem to take our D as seriously as they should and all we seem to hear is . . . . but, but, but Warner & Fitz. :blah::blah: Dick Lebeau is a very experienced, seasoned and well respected NFL DC - they don't seem to take him seriously either and that just may be their biggest mistake.

The clock is going to strike midnight for Cinderella on February 1, 2009.

Nobody is taking your defense lightly, but we are hopeful this Cardinals offense can do something against it. We realize it won't be much, but we're hoping that we can avoid costly mistakes and do just enough to squeeze out the win. We also realize that if we don't avoid the mistakes that this game could get ugly fast. We're just hopeful that's all. :noidea:

tony hipchest
01-25-2009, 03:42 PM
the cardinals have made the big game and their fans have every right to be confident.

you make it too the bowl and you earn that. the giants fans had every right to be confident last season. :noidea:

i was sure our 95 steelers would slay the giant in '95.

we almost did too.

that being said, i am just as confident and perhaps moreso.

i expect utter destruction. (49ers vs chargers style).

MasterOfPuppets
01-25-2009, 03:51 PM
the cards did a nice job with the falcons and panthers, they played very well, the question is....WILL they play well sunday? the cards ain't exactly been the consistent offensive juggernaut, they were the last 2 weeks. thus the 9-7 record against a VERY weak schedule. the steelers on the other hand have been Very consistent on defense.

IAWarnerFan
01-25-2009, 03:55 PM
the cardinals have made the big game and their fans have every right to be confident.

you make it too the bowl and you earn that. the giants fans had every right to be confident last season. :noidea:

i was sure our 95 steelers would slay the giant in '95.

we almost did too.

that being said, i am just as confident and perhaps moreso.

i expect utter destruction. (49ers vs chargers style).

I could see it being Cowboys vs Bills style. I hope not, but there is that chance.

JackHammer
01-25-2009, 04:17 PM
The Cards made it to the Super Bowl. Their fans ought to be confident.

SteelCityMan786
01-25-2009, 04:19 PM
I have got no problem with Cards fans getting fired up about a Super Bowl. I was like that when the Steelers made it to Super Bowl XL because it would eventually be the first time I could watch the Steelers win a Super Bowl.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-25-2009, 04:44 PM
Face it. They are only the 2nd 9-7 team to reach the Super Bowl. They are cinderella, on a roll, the underdog and have nothing to lose.

They can be as over the moon, optimistic as they want and nobody will question it. Yet, if the Steeler fans act the same way, we are labelled as arrogant and overconfident because we are expected to win.

I honestly think it will be like the Rams-Titans super bowl, with a good offense against a solid defensive team. The difference is that the Cards aint the "greatest show on turf" and the Steelers D is much better than the Titans was.

Steelers 27- Cardinals 20

AllD
01-25-2009, 04:44 PM
Cards are also getting front page news whereas the Steelers are on the last page (outside of PA).

Also think the extra week and the visitor's status will ice the Cards.

The Duke
01-25-2009, 04:47 PM
Let them be

They got about one week and four hours before they taste misery again

4xSBChamps
01-25-2009, 05:09 PM
They are only the 2nd 9-7 team to reach the Super Bowl.

..... and exactly WHAT happened to the last 9-7 team to reach the Big Dance?

http://www.steelergridiron.com/history/images/jack_lambert7_jpg.jpg

:tt02:

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 05:25 PM
The LA Rams tasted pain all day long.

I was gonna make a post about the similarity between these 2 teams.

4xSBChamps
01-25-2009, 05:31 PM
The LA Rams tasted pain all day long.

Wendy Tyler had to be helped off the field several times that day

Whizard of Glendale
01-25-2009, 05:36 PM
Our offense is the kind of offense that matches up well against your defense and will be able to perform efficiently....

Our defense is underestimated and will stop your offense...

Darnell Docket is a tank and because of him you will NOT run the ball...

Because our coaches know you, Whiz is a strong advocate of extra film sessions and we will be so much more well prepared than what you all think.

Write it down right now. I said the Cardinals will win the Super Bowl.

fansince'76
01-25-2009, 05:38 PM
Our defense is underestimated and will easily stop your offense...

....if "holding" someone under 40 is what you consider "stopping" somebody. Get real, please. Your D is a sieve. :coffee:

Whizard of Glendale
01-25-2009, 05:43 PM
Now now, lets be realistic. Darnell Dockett gave you fools all sorts of problems last time we played, so you know what he can do. Adrian Wilson, Antrel Rolle, Karlos Dansby, and Dominic-Rodgers Cromartie are all excellent pro-bowl type playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. They will all rise to the occasion.

fansince'76
01-25-2009, 05:44 PM
Now now, lets be realistic. Darnell Dockett gave you fools all sorts of problems last time we played, so you know what he can do. Adrian Wilson, Karlos Dansby, and Dominic-Rodgers Cromartie are all excellent pro-bowl type playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. They will all rise to the occasion.

Yeah, let's get realistic. You coughed up an 18-point lead at home last week against Philly. Your D is a real "force" all right. Shaking in my boots. :yawn:

4xSBChamps
01-25-2009, 05:48 PM
Our offense is the kind of offense that matches up well against your defense and will be able to perform efficiently....

Our defense is underestimated and will stop your offense...

..... you will NOT run the ball...

Because our coaches know you, Whiz is a strong advocate of extra film sessions and we will be so much more well prepared than what you all think.

..... the Cardinals will win the Super Bowl.

..... much-to-learn has this young-one.....

http://www.jacklail.com/blog/images/yoda.jpg

..... about Super Bowl Championships, hmmm?????

Whizard of Glendale
01-25-2009, 05:51 PM
Hey, I know you all are sick of hearing about the Cardinals, but we're sick of hearing about your "fabulous history".... thats in the past. Right now it's the Cardinals' time, remember how the Giants shocked the world last year? Well... why buck that lil trend :hatsoff:

SunshineMan21
01-25-2009, 05:53 PM
As long as they're respectful and non-Titans fan-ish, let them enjoy themselves. I must say, I'm happy for the Cards--was rooting for them against the obnoxious Eagles.

I think we'll win, but the Cards have the best passing attack in the game (besides maybe the Saints). Can't take it for granted.

MasterOfPuppets
01-25-2009, 05:57 PM
As long as they're respectful and non-Titans fan-ish, let them enjoy themselves. I must say, I'm happy for the Cards--was rooting for them against the obnoxious Eagles.

I think we'll win, but the Cards have the best passing attack in the game (besides maybe the Saints). Can't take it for granted.the very same passing attack that
led them to a 9-7 record.....:coffee:

spiketg
01-25-2009, 06:00 PM
Hey, I know you all are sick of hearing about the Cardinals, but we're sick of hearing about your "fabulous history".... thats in the past. Right now it's the Cardinals' time, remember how the Giants shocked the world last year? Well... why buck that lil trend :hatsoff:

Because we're a team, defense + (to a lesser extent) offense = championships. The patriots last year were like the Titans and colts this year except they came undone further down the stretch. This years Steelers are a far more complete team and have been consistently good despite a huge list of injuries at times and the hardest schedule in the last quarter of a century, we are the true underdogs here.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-25-2009, 06:04 PM
Darnell Docket is a tank and because of him you will NOT run the ball...

. Sorry, but his is what I have a problem with. Dockett is not a tank, he is gonna be 50lbs lighter than the guy he lines up against (Chris Kemoateu). Dockett is an undersized DT who is very active and a guy that would be better off playing as a 3-4DE. Your other DT Robinson is a better run defender.

Here is a scouting report on your run stuffing "tank".....just in case you actually want to know what your players do. :sofunny:

Run defending: On plays away from him, Dockett can be very disruptive. He can close a gap very fast and force a back to choose another route to the second level of the defense. However on plays that force him to hold his ground and keep a shoulder open, he struggles to be much of a presence. When peeking into the backfield, Duckett will sometimes play too high which makes it easy for a lineman to completely wash him out of a play.
http://www.newerascouting.com/darnell-dockett-scouting-report/

A classic one-gap tackle who has the explosive burst and first step that scouts covet.....Reads plays well and generally gets good position against the run or the pass.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/football/nfl/players/Darnell_Dockett/

Where is Cardsgrad82???? This is the kind of thing that I was telling him about. Cardinal fans that come in beating their chest about stuff they dont know of their own team. :banging: I would hardly call a 285 lb, one-gap defensive tackle........a tank that will stop us from running the ball. :kick:

This kind of post is what paints most Cardinal fans as fair weathered fans that just jumped on the bandwagon.

CPanther95
01-25-2009, 06:09 PM
Cut them some slack. Most of them are very new to the sport, and don't know any better.

4xSBChamps
01-25-2009, 06:13 PM
Dockett is not a tank, he is gonna be 50lbs lighter than the guy he lines up against (Chris Kemoateu). Dockett is an undersized DT who is very active and a guy that would be better off playing as a 3-4DE. Your other DT Robinson is a better run defender.

Here is a scouting report on your run stuffing "tank".....just in case you actually want to know what your players do. :sofunny:

Run defending: On plays away from him, Dockett can be very disruptive. He can close a gap very fast and force a back to choose another route to the second level of the defense. However on plays that force him to hold his ground and keep a shoulder open, he struggles to be much of a presence. When peeking into the backfield, Duckett will sometimes play too high which makes it easy for a lineman to completely wash him out of a play.
http://www.newerascouting.com/darnell-dockett-scouting-report/

A classic one-gap tackle who has the explosive burst and first step that scouts covet.....Reads plays well and generally gets good position against the run or the pass.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/football/nfl/players/Darnell_Dockett/

I would hardly call a 285 lb, one-gap defensive tackle........a tank. :kick:

..... don't confuse me with the facts.....

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/depcrumb/chickenhawk.jpg

nineball
01-25-2009, 06:26 PM
yeah cut them some slack, there babes and desire milk .where we are mature and desire a six pack....trophies that is...

first time post...hows all the steeler faithful doing?
i live just outside tampa and things are starting to heat up.
lots of black and gold down here..its even mentioned in the st pete times today about how many steeler fans are here. it should feel like a home game.

theres a ton of steeler bars here if ya cant go to the game. that also was in the st pete times listing where all the steeler faithfull hang..but the reporter couldnt find any cardinal bars. sorry bird seeders...

talk later, nineball

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 06:26 PM
Our offense is the kind of offense that matches up well against your defense and will be able to perform efficiently....

Our defense is underestimated and will stop your offense...

Darnell Docket is a tank and because of him you will NOT run the ball...

Because our coaches know you, Whiz is a strong advocate of extra film sessions and we will be so much more well prepared than what you all think.

Write it down right now. I said the Cardinals will win the Super Bowl.


I just wanted to make sure you are aware that The Detroit Lions, The Kansas City Chiefs, The Bungles all have better defenses than your team. They are downright pathetic. They nearly gave up 60 3 times this season. You wouldnt know that cause 3 weeks ago was the first time you watched the Cardinals. You played in the worse division in the NFL. and got 6 wins against them. In the regular season you guys only beat 2 teams with a winning record. 2 teams. The Cowboys and Dolphins barely .500 at that. Darnell Docket is such a tank is that why you have the 4th worst defense in the NFL. You are a absolute idiot for thinking one man can stop a run game. You are almost as Pathetic as the performance he put up against New england or the jets. You dont think we know Whis. You can be as prepared as you want it does not mean you can stop the devestation our defense is gonna cause. Tell whiz i told him he is gonna see pressure from the edges see if your scrub line has a chance of stopping woodly or harrison. Do you this Whiz is the only one who watches extra film before the super bowl. You better hope all your players can chew solid food on the losers plane back to Arizona after the super bowl.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 06:32 PM
I googled Darnell Dockett to find some stats but all i found was gay porn.

4xSBChamps
01-25-2009, 06:34 PM
theres a ton of steeler bars here if ya cant go to the game. that also was in the st pete times listing where all the steeler faithfull hang..

I'm out along I-4, halfway to Orlando, and don't know of any Stiller-bars where we can watch the game
(a local Stiller-joint closed when the owner went-back to 'da Burgh a few months ago)

If you can provide a listing of places where Stiller faithful can watch the game, it'd be much appreciated:
if-not, we'll go to APPLEBEE'S again, where we watched the AFC Championship Game

:drink:

stlrtruck
01-25-2009, 06:34 PM
Hey, I know you all are sick of hearing about the Cardinals, but we're sick of hearing about your "fabulous history".... thats in the past. Right now it's the Cardinals' time, remember how the Giants shocked the world last year? Well... why buck that lil trend :hatsoff:

And so is last years game but you had no problem bringing that up! :blah: :blah: :blah:

The Giants shocked the world last year by playing defense! You know, that little thing the Steelers are famous for - but why bring that up it only diminishes any rhetoric cards fans have.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 06:39 PM
The only problem is you will have to hear about the Steelers History for the rest of your life.

But we only have to hear about the cardinals till february 2nd.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-25-2009, 06:40 PM
Cut them some slack. Most of them are very new to the sport, and don't know any better.

Sorry, but the 1 guy that does seem to know something about the Cardinals cant understand why I look at their fans and think they have a low football IQ........then this one comes along and opens his mouth to prove it.

Pretty sad that I am a Steeler fan and know more of what kind of game Darnell Dockett has.........than an alleged Cardinal fan. What in the name of Neil Lomax is going on out there????

nineball
01-25-2009, 07:05 PM
http://blogs.tampabay.com/talk/2009/01/cards-steeler-f.html

Petesburgh66
01-25-2009, 07:06 PM
Our offense is the kind of offense that matches up well against your defense and will be able to perform efficiently....

Our defense is underestimated and will stop your offense...

Darnell Docket is a tank and because of him you will NOT run the ball...

Because our coaches know you, Whiz is a strong advocate of extra film sessions and we will be so much more well prepared than what you all think.

Write it down right now. I said the Cardinals will win the Super Bowl.

Oh, you want to get realistic?

- The Cards got destroyed THIS YEAR against the only two AFC teams they played on the road (Pats and Jets). Both teams use a 3-4 defense. So explain how your team matches well against a better 3-4 defense, on the road and in front of a pro Steelers crowd? By spreading out the offense to slow down the pass rush? Please, several teams have tried it this year and failed. And the Steelers won't need to send in 6 or 7 blitzers like the Eagles to get to Warner. So forget that crap arguement as well.

- The Cards defense is underestimated? Wait, didn't the Eagles get over 400 yards on that world beater of a D, with 375 yards in the air. Get realistic. The Eagles lost that game by themselves with the help of a blown pass interference call.

- All of a sudden the Cards have figured out how to stop the run? Once again, please. 20 attempts (Falcons) 15 attempts (Panthers) and 16 attempts (Eagles) by running backs suggests all three teams abandoned the running game to attack your piss poor secondary. The Steelers will not fall into this trap. Even against one of the hardiest run defenses in the NFL (Ravens), the Steelers continued to try and run the ball.

- As for the Cardinal coaches know us; so do the remaining Steelers players and coaches on the team. Pittsburgh also has film on the Cardinals in terms of what they did against the Steelers in 2007. So where is the advantage for either side?

- Docket a tank? Whatever. The Steelers have gone against much bigger nose tackles this year.

- Write what down? Vegas and most of the experts in the football world have the Steelers picked to win.

In the end, I have no problem rooting for your team. But all the stuff you posted sounds like bandwagon material to me.

IAWarnerFan
01-25-2009, 07:15 PM
I googled Darnell Dockett to find some stats but all i found was gay porn.

Maybe you spelled it wrong? You spelled it right there BTW. :wink02:

nineball
01-25-2009, 07:16 PM
steelers bars in tampa
http://blogs.tampabay.com/wingman/2009/01/cardinals-steel.html

IAWarnerFan
01-25-2009, 07:19 PM
I googled Darnell Dockett to find some stats but all i found was gay porn.

What do you get for options when you type in Ben Roethlisberger is on google? :popcorn:

43Hitman
01-25-2009, 07:28 PM
What do you get for options when you type in Ben Roethlisberger is on google? :popcorn:


Ranks among Steeler Quarterbacks

In just five seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Steelers), Roethlisberger has become the second most prolific quarterback in franchise history behind Pro Football Hall of Famer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Football_Hall_of_Fame) Terry Bradshaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Bradshaw). As of 2008 sports broadcasters in the Pittsburgh region have been praising Roethlisberger as "the second coming of John Elway" due to his late clutch game winning drives, and the repeated sacks Roethlisberger has taken through out his career, as what happened through out Elways career. This is a list of where Roethlisberger ranks in the Steeler record books.[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-34)


[1st] Passer Rating - 89.4
[1st] Completion % - 62.4%
[1st] Yards Per Attempt - 7.86
[1st] Most 300+ Yard Passing Games - 7
[1st] 3000 Yard Passing Seasons - 3
[2nd] Passing TDs - 101
[2nd] Passing Yards - 14,974
[2nd] Most Wins as a Starting QB - 51
[2nd] Most Games w/Passer Rating over 100.0 (min. 10 attempts, regular season only*) - 29[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-35)
[3rd] Pass Completions - 1,189
[3rd] Pass Attempts - 1,905
[5th] Interceptions - 69

(*Terry Bradshaw - 35[37] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-36))




Plenty more where this came from.:popcorn:

43Hitman
01-25-2009, 07:30 PM
What do you get for options when you type in Ben Roethlisberger is on google? :popcorn:

Some more....



NFL Records



Most Regular Season Wins in a Season, Rookie QB - 13 (2004) [48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-47)
Longest regular season win streak to start a career for a NFL QB - 15 games (won all 13 starts in the 2004 season, won first 2 games of the 2005 season)[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-48)
Highest Passer Rating, Rookie Season - 98.1 (2004)[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-49)
Highest Completion %, Rookie Season - 66.4% (2004)[51] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-50)
(Tie) Most Touchdown Passes, Monday Night Football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Night_Football) game - 5 (11/5/2007 vs. Baltimore Ravens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Ravens)) [52] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-51)
First QB to start two Conference Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Championship_Game) games in first two seasons in the NFL (2004 & 2005)[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-52)
Youngest starting QB ever to win the Super Bowl (2005; 2nd youngest QB to play in the Super Bowl behind Dan Marino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino))[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-53)
Roethlisberger became the second quarterback in NFL history, along with Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning), to register 3 perfect passing games during the regular season and only quarterback to ever register 2 perfect passing games in one regular season. [55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-54)
Lowest passer rating for a Super Bowl winning QB - 22.6 (Completed 9 of 21 passes for 0 touchdowns, with 2 interceptions)[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-55)
Most wins as a starting quarterback in first 5 NFL seasons - 51 (from 2004-2008)[57] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-56)
Tied for most seasons with one or more postseason starts in first 5 years in the league since 1960 with 4 starts (tied w/ Bernie Kosar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Kosar), Neil O'Donnell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_O%27Donnell), Donovan McNabb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_McNabb), and Eli Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Manning)).[58] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-57)

43Hitman
01-25-2009, 07:33 PM
What do you get for options when you type in Ben Roethlisberger is on google? :popcorn:


Pittsburgh Steeler Franchise Records

In 5 seasons Roethlisberger has many individual accomplishments that are record performances in Steelers' history[59] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-58)[60] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-59)

Career Records



58-22 (.725) record as starting QB (includes a 7-2 playoff record)
.725 winning percentage is the highest among all Steeler QB's with at least 20 starts
Highest Passer Rating (Min. 100 attempts) - 89.4
Highest Completion % (Min. 100 attempts) - 62.4%
Highest Yards Per Attempt (Min. 100 attempts) - 7.86
Most 300+ Yard Passing Games - 7
(Tie) Most 400+ Yard Passing Games - 1 (tied w/Bobby Layne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Layne) and Tommy Maddox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Maddox))
Most 3000 Yard Passing Seasons - 3
Most Consecutive 3000 Yard Passing Season - 3 (2006-2008)
Most Consecutive Games With a TD Pass - 15 (from Decem ber 3, 2006 through November 18, 2007)
Most Games With a Perfect Passer Rating - 3
Largest contract in Steelers history (8 yr, $102 million)[61] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-60)


Season Records



Highest Completion % - 66.4% (2004)
Most Touchdown Passes - 32 (2007)
Highest TD% - 7.92% (2007)
Highest Yards Per Attempt - 8.90 (2005)
Highest Passer Rating - 104.1 (2007)


Single-Game Records



Most Pass Completions - 38 (Completed 38 of 54 passes for 433 yards on November 5, 2006 against the Denver Broncos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos))
(Tie) Most Consecutive Passes Completed, Single Game - 15 (Completed 15 straight on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Dolphins) on Monday Night Football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Night_Football). Bubby Brister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubby_Brister) also completed 15 straight on October 1, 1989 against the Detroit Lions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Lions))
Highest Completion %, Game (Min. 20 attempts) - 85.7% (Completed 18 out of 21 attempts on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Dolphins) on Monday Night Football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Night_Football))
(Tie) Most Touchdown Passes, Game - 5 (Threw 5 TD passes in the first half against the Baltimore Ravens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Ravens) on a Monday Night game November 5, 2007. Tied w/Terry Bradshaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Bradshaw) and Mark Malone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Malone)) [62] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-61)


Rookie Records (achieved during 2004 season)



Most Pass Attempts - 295
Most Pass Completions - 196
Highest Completion % - 66.4%
Most Passing Yards - 2621
Most Touchdown Passes - 17
Highest Yards Per Attempt - 8.88
Highest Passer Rating - 98.1
Wins as starting QB - 13


Postseason Records



Highest Completion % (Min. 50 attempts) - 60.9%
Highest Passer Rating - 86.5


And don't forget, he has a sandwich named after him as well.

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/43hitman/800px-Number_7_Roethlisburger_Pitts.jpg


Now it's your turn to sell us on Dockett...:coffee:

IAWarnerFan
01-25-2009, 07:41 PM
Pittsburgh Steeler Franchise Records

In 5 seasons Roethlisberger has many individual accomplishments that are record performances in Steelers' history[59] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-58)[60] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-59)

Career Records



58-22 (.725) record as starting QB (includes a 7-2 playoff record)
.725 winning percentage is the highest among all Steeler QB's with at least 20 starts
Highest Passer Rating (Min. 100 attempts) - 89.4
Highest Completion % (Min. 100 attempts) - 62.4%
Highest Yards Per Attempt (Min. 100 attempts) - 7.86
Most 300+ Yard Passing Games - 7
(Tie) Most 400+ Yard Passing Games - 1 (tied w/Bobby Layne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Layne) and Tommy Maddox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Maddox))
Most 3000 Yard Passing Seasons - 3
Most Consecutive 3000 Yard Passing Season - 3 (2006-2008)
Most Consecutive Games With a TD Pass - 15 (from Decem ber 3, 2006 through November 18, 2007)
Most Games With a Perfect Passer Rating - 3
Largest contract in Steelers history (8 yr, $102 million)[61] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-60)


Season Records



Highest Completion % - 66.4% (2004)
Most Touchdown Passes - 32 (2007)
Highest TD% - 7.92% (2007)
Highest Yards Per Attempt - 8.90 (2005)
Highest Passer Rating - 104.1 (2007)


Single-Game Records



Most Pass Completions - 38 (Completed 38 of 54 passes for 433 yards on November 5, 2006 against the Denver Broncos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos))
(Tie) Most Consecutive Passes Completed, Single Game - 15 (Completed 15 straight on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Dolphins) on Monday Night Football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Night_Football). Bubby Brister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubby_Brister) also completed 15 straight on October 1, 1989 against the Detroit Lions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Lions))
Highest Completion %, Game (Min. 20 attempts) - 85.7% (Completed 18 out of 21 attempts on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Dolphins) on Monday Night Football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_Night_Football))
(Tie) Most Touchdown Passes, Game - 5 (Threw 5 TD passes in the first half against the Baltimore Ravens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Ravens) on a Monday Night game November 5, 2007. Tied w/Terry Bradshaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Bradshaw) and Mark Malone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Malone)) [62] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roethlisberger#cite_note-61)


Rookie Records (achieved during 2004 season)



Most Pass Attempts - 295
Most Pass Completions - 196
Highest Completion % - 66.4%
Most Passing Yards - 2621
Most Touchdown Passes - 17
Highest Yards Per Attempt - 8.88
Highest Passer Rating - 98.1
Wins as starting QB - 13


Postseason Records



Highest Completion % (Min. 50 attempts) - 60.9%
Highest Passer Rating - 86.5



Now it's your turn to sell us on Dockett...:coffee:
It doesn't come up with any options for Dockett.

You are ok with those other 3 options including the one with the most results? :laughing:

43Hitman
01-25-2009, 07:49 PM
It doesn't come up with any options for Dockett.

You are ok with those other 3 options including the one with the most results? :laughing:


Because Dockett is insignificant. So unless your going to post facts arguing your point, you can run along and stop trolling our site.:coffee:

Dino 6 Rings
01-25-2009, 07:50 PM
Well, it also helps that all the "hype" is being praised upon the Cardinals.

2 weeks of "Is Warner a Hall of Fame Quarterback?" on ESPN. At least 2 weeks of "The Cardinals Defense has really done a great job against the run and has really come into its own." 2 weeks of Larry Fitzgerald is better than Jerry Rice!"

2 weeks of trying to get people to tune in for the Super Bowl, and trying to excite the non-NFL Fans (cause millions of the viewers of the Super Bowl aren't actually NFL Fans) to excite them into watching this game. Selling some merchandise, really push it that this is going to be a "great game".

Well, the reality, and the down right dirty little secret is this. If the Steelers sack Warner early and often, this game is going to get ugly quick and the Steelers are going to pound the Cardinals into submission.

SO....all the News...all the "highlight shows" are pushing and lifting up the Cardinals, building up a 9-7 team into some offensive Juggarnaut and build its defense into something to be even talked about...just to have something to talk about.

Which, makes sense, cause "The Steelers are going to Win Big." Doesn't make for great tv.

RJW76
01-25-2009, 07:56 PM
[

Darnell Docket is a tank and because of him you will NOT run the ball...

Nice Jerry Glanville logic. ONE player will effect the outcome of the entire game.

HometownGal
01-25-2009, 08:10 PM
Now now, lets be realistic. Darnell Dockett gave you fools all sorts of problems last time we played, so you know what he can do. Adrian Wilson, Antrel Rolle, Karlos Dansby, and Dominic-Rodgers Cromartie are all excellent pro-bowl type playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. They will all rise to the occasion.

Out of that bunch, the only one who I believe is a force to be reckoned with is Adrian Wilson. Unfortunately, he can't cover Ward, Santo, Nate and Heath all at the same time. :chuckle:

Y'mean like they rose to the occasion last weekend against the Eagles with a 24-6 halftime lead, giving up 3 TD's in the second half and almost blowing the game? :doh:

OK, let's be realistic. No doubt, the Cards have a very good offense as evidenced throughout the playoffs, but your D is mediocre at best. Our O hasn't put up the numbers yours has, but when the going get though, they get the job done as they have more than proven over and over again throughout the season. I'm not saying that the Cards won't give us a game - I have no doubt they will, but will learn the hard way when all is said and done that they were simply outmatched and outplayed.

Bottom line?

Cards O < Steelers D
Steelers O > Cards D

1 + 1 = 2. End of story.

slashsteel
01-25-2009, 08:15 PM
In Apopka there is a Froggers. Huge Steeler bar its close to Orlando. ( response to inquiry)

lilyoder6
01-25-2009, 08:18 PM
no one that u listed real gives us problems... we went up against "the so called greatest ball hawk safety" in ed reed.. and his name was barely mentioned thru out the game...

i will say that drc turned out to be a good corner.. but he was the one who got burned by jackson...

Steelcitygal87
01-25-2009, 08:24 PM
Hopefully we won't help them out any by committing penalties.....are you listening...Willie.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 08:30 PM
[

Darnell Docket is a tank and because of him you will NOT run the ball...

Nice Jerry Glanville logic. ONE player will effect the outcome of the entire game.

You are a absolute tool. We couldnt run the ball last game and we beat the 2nd best defense in the nfl. Is Darnell Docket gonna make every tackle and play. Cause god knows that sorry excuse for a defense cant tackle shit. You struggle to put 11 men on the defensive side of the ball. Whats gonna happen when DRC or Antrel Rolle get knocked into next tuesday.
"Where the headlines read, SIXBURGH, Cardinals= Epic Fail."

SteelCityMom
01-25-2009, 09:03 PM
It doesn't come up with any options for Dockett.

You are ok with those other 3 options including the one with the most results? :laughing:

Yeah I know which searches you are referring to (another Cards fan posted this already on the Cards MB...slightly amusing but tacky) it comes up with overrated, Jewish and a douche....it's nothing Steelers fans haven't already heard though from all the Steelers haters out there (i.e. the perennial losers Clown and Bungals and other division rivals the Ravens, not to mention countless other jealous fans of other teams).

Trust me, Steelers fans don't take too much stock in what haters have to say, they just laugh at it and move on.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-25-2009, 09:22 PM
You are a absolute tool. We couldnt run the ball last game and we beat the 2nd best defense in the nfl. Is Darnell Docket gonna make every tackle and play. ."

That is so true. The past 2 games we faced Haloti Ngata, Trevor Pryce and Justin Bannan against the Ravens. Jamaal Williams, Luis Castillo and Igor Olshansky.

Now I am supposed to be worried about Darnell Dockett, Travis LaBoy and Brian Robinson????? There are no easy games, but we have faced a lot this season and are battle tested in the trenches.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 09:29 PM
Haloti Ngata killed us. Im not even gonna lie. But who won the game?

We got a nose tackle too. Named Casey Hampton. You may remember him from winning PRO BOWL strong man competitions. Oh thats right you just started watching football last week. And ill tell ya what. Darnell Suckit is not even a piece of corn in a Casey Hampton Turd.

steelerdave1969
01-25-2009, 09:38 PM
The Cards made it to the Super Bowl. Their fans ought to be confident.

I agree there JackHammer full speed. This Arizona team has the right to be flyin' high right now, they have a very potent passing offense and their running game has actually showed up in the playoffs. Kurt Warner and Larry Fitz, the best WR in the game in my opinion, Anquan Boldin and dont forget rookie Steve Breaston. Edgerin James has looked like a man that was just released from the federal pen and is looking for something to prove. Their defense hasnt played bad either. They held a good young team and their running game down vs the Falcons and then went to Carolina and beat a pretty good running team pretty handidly. The Eagles were so unpredictable the Cardinals had to win that game.
I have been a Steelers fan for over 25 years and I know Not To Count my Chickens before the eggs hatch. This is gonna be a better game than alot of people think I believe. I think it will be a classic.
:tt02:

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:11 PM
I agree there JackHammer full speed. This Arizona team has the right to be flyin' high right now, they have a very potent passing offense and their running game has actually showed up in the playoffs. Kurt Warner and Larry Fitz, the best WR in the game in my opinion, Anquan Boldin and dont forget rookie Steve Breaston. Edgerin James has looked like a man that was just released from the federal pen and is looking for something to prove. Their defense hasnt played bad either. They held a good young team and their running game down vs the Falcons and then went to Carolina and beat a pretty good running team pretty handidly. The Eagles were so unpredictable the Cardinals had to win that game.
I have been a Steelers fan for over 25 years and I know Not To Count my Chickens before the eggs hatch. This is gonna be a better game than alot of people think I believe. I think it will be a classic.
:tt02:


Great Post and I totally agree! I really do believe this game has the makings of an alltime classic. The talent levels on both teams, along with the tremendous coaching really makes this an incredible match-up... on paper at least. As we know, come game time anything can happen. I really hope it turns into a hard fought battle with NO injuries on either side. I would love this to be the type of game where botrh teams gave their all the entire game, with their best talent on the field the entire game!

Of course, I think a lot of people are about to be surprised by this Cardinal team. Not sure if they have enough just yet to totally pull this off... But, I'm pretty sure they will put up one helluva fight and shock all those that seem to believe this is going to be a cakewalk for the Steelers...

T.Richardson
01-25-2009, 10:12 PM
I think they are too confident. I mean come on! the Cards fans make it seem that the Cards will easily beat the Steelers.

stlrtruck
01-25-2009, 10:20 PM
Cards O < Steelers D
Steelers O > Cards D

1 + 1 = 6. End of story.

I fixed your math :hug: :thumbsup: :drink: :tt03:

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:26 PM
I think they are too confident. I mean come on! the Cards fans make it seem that the Cards will easily beat the Steelers.

Really? Where have you seen that? I don't know any Cards fans who think our win would be easy...

:wave:

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 10:26 PM
I can understand they think their team is gonna win, no fan is gonna say differantly.

But dont come on here acting like their defense is gonna win the game. Talking about this guy and that when in all honesty in the words of Joey Porter "Your not even on the scouting Report"

Here it is Cards Fans if you have a snowballs chance of winning you will have to play a perfect game and hope for some steelers miscues. And even with Miscues and perfect game its gonna be tough. But dont think for one second your defense or 1 player for that matter is gonna dominate a GD think come next sunday.

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:29 PM
I can understand they think their team is gonna win, no fan is gonna say differantly.

But dont come on here acting like their defense is gonna win the game. Talking about this guy and that when in all honesty in the words of Joey Porter "Your not even on the scouting Report"

Here it is Cards Fans if you have a snowballs chance of winning you will have to play a perfect game and hope for some steelers miscues. And even with Miscues and perfect game its gonna be tough. But dont think for one second your defense or 1 player for that matter is gonna dominate a GD think come next sunday.

Did someone state that the Cards defense is going to "dominate" the game? Or that one of our players would "dominate"??

:noidea:

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 10:30 PM
And understand this The cards are gonna get beat up, They are gonna get hit and knocked around like they never did before. Some of them very well may get injured.
(I dont ever wanna see anyone sustain a serious injury.)
But someones gonna get KO'd.

And you have absolutely no depth at any position on your defense or even team and i can assure thants not gonna fair well.

T.Richardson
01-25-2009, 10:32 PM
Really? Where have you seen that? I don't know any Cards fans who think our win would be easy...

:wave:

espn.com I saw one Cards fan say the Cards would win 35-9.

fansince'76
01-25-2009, 10:35 PM
Did someone state that the Cards defense is going to "dominate" the game? Or that one of our players would "dominate"??

:noidea:

Essentially, yes.

Our defense is underestimated and will stop your offense...

Darnell Docket is a tank and because of him you will NOT run the ball....

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 10:36 PM
One guy in a earlier post and azsportsfan and a lot of cardinals boards act like the defense is gonna do this and that.

If the cards win this game it will be because of their passing offense i can assure you of that.

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:38 PM
espn.com I saw one Cards fan say the Cards would win 35-9.


LMAO.... Well, I guess if yuor entire starting defense slipped in the shower or something and broke their legs... maybe we can do something like that. But c'mon man... I know you guys think us Cards fans are new to pro football and all (you know, we'd rather go ride our ATV's out in the desert... LoL!)... but do you really believe Cards fans think we're gonna win 35-9??? Good god that's funny!!!

:rofl:

IAWarnerFan
01-25-2009, 10:38 PM
Yeah I know which searches you are referring to (another Cards fan posted this already on the Cards MB...slightly amusing but tacky) it comes up with overrated, Jewish and a douche....it's nothing Steelers fans haven't already heard though from all the Steelers haters out there (i.e. the perennial losers Clown and Bungals and other division rivals the Ravens, not to mention countless other jealous fans of other teams).

Trust me, Steelers fans don't take too much stock in what haters have to say, they just laugh at it and move on.

Good deal! :wink02:

What was that posters ID BTW? :huh::toofunny:

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:40 PM
Essentially, yes.


Well, c'mon man... he is "The Whizard of Glendale" after all... He says it so is must be so!!! Whoo Hoo!!

:thumbsup:

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:41 PM
One guy in a earlier post and azsportsfan and a lot of cardinals boards act like the defense is gonna do this and that.

If the cards win this game it will be because of their passing offense i can assure you of that.

Hey man... we do "this and that" each week... Sometimes "this" works better than "that". And oddly enough, the very nexty week "that" works better than "this"... go figure...

But yes, our offense will be our key... Should we Shock the World, our offense will need to keep you offense off the field, and put up points early and often...

:thumbsup:

T.Richardson
01-25-2009, 10:42 PM
LMAO.... Well, I guess if yuor entire starting defense slipped in the shower or something and broker their legs... maybe we can do something like that. But c'mon man... I know you guys think us Cards fans are new to pro football and all (you know, we'd rather go ride our ATV's out in the desert... LoL!)... but do you really believe Cards fans think we're gonna win 35-9??? Good god that's funny!!!

:rofl:

yea man heres the link: http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nfl&id=ari&tid=4187832&lid=11

You'd better sign up and educate your fellow fans, it isnt going to be that easy, its full of Cards fans who think this way.

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:43 PM
yea man heres the link: http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nfl&id=ari&tid=4187832&lid=11

You'd better sign up and educate your fellow fans, it isnt going to be that easy, its full of Cards fans who think this way.

Screw that... Cards fans hang out at www.arizonasportsfans.com. Trust me, we know how difficult this win will be... It won't be easy at all!

:chuckle:

KeiselPower99
01-25-2009, 10:45 PM
They are so confident based on the fact they didnt even sell out the wild card game with Atlanta.

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:47 PM
They are so confident based on the fact they didnt even sell out the wild card game with Atlanta.


I know! Incredible... but hey, we're a faithful group... Kurt is extremely spiritual and, well, it works for him so us fans are tyring it now!!!

:laughing:

tony hipchest
01-25-2009, 10:53 PM
I know you guys think us Cards fans are new to pro football and all (you know, we'd rather go ride our ATV's out in the desert... LoL!)... but do you really believe Cards fans think we're gonna win 35-9??? Good god that's funny!!!

:rofl:be sure to wear you chaps. you know... cactus pricks and c0ckaburrs and all. watch out for 'dem gila monsters and rattlers.

hindes204
01-25-2009, 10:53 PM
They are so confident based on the fact they didnt even sell out the wild card game with Atlanta.

i believe pittsburgh has sold out every game, regular season or playoff since 1973....just goes to show you the difference between a steeler fan and a cardinals fan

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 10:58 PM
i believe pittsburgh has sold out every game, regular season or playoff since 1973....just goes to show you the difference between a steeler fan and a cardinals fan


Does being a Steeler fan also mean you are un informed? Our new stadium opened in 2006. Since then , preseason, regular season and poast season game has been sold out!

:thumbsup:

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 11:00 PM
be sure to wear you chaps. you know... cactus pricks and c0ckaburrs and all. watch out for 'dem gila monsters and rattlers.

Oh no way... Only Steeler fans wear chaps! Cards fans can deal with the elements!

:thumbsup:

tony hipchest
01-25-2009, 11:02 PM
Oh no way... Only Steeler fans wear chaps! Cards fans can deal with the elements!

:thumbsup:

:chuckle: lol

ok then.

I really do believe this game has the makings of an alltime classic. The talent levels on both teams, along with the tremendous coaching really makes this an incredible match-up... on paper at least. ...

it very well could be, BUT on paper, this is the 3rd easiest match-up the steelers have had in the last 3 months or so (id say the bungles and browns were easier) going back to our early season match up vs. the redskins.

:noidea:

tyler289
01-25-2009, 11:03 PM
Does being a Steeler fan also mean you are un informed? Our new stadium opened in 2006. Since then , preseason, regular season and poast season game has been sold out!

:thumbsup:

U. of Phoenix stadium:

63,400 capacity

wildcard game:

62,848

sounds like a sellout to me

championship game:

73, 719 capacity

attendance

73,695



really looking for his response to this. he claims every preseason, regular season, and postseason game has been a sellout, but yet their 2 home postseason games are close, but no cigar

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 11:08 PM
U. of Phoenix stadium:

63,400 capacity

wildcard game:

62,848

sounds like a sellout to me

championship game:

73, 719 capacity

attendance

73,695

Oh crap!! You mean the Cards and the NFL somehow got around the Blackout rule that goes into effect when a team can't sellout their stadium??
Oh man... somone is gonna fry over this for sure!!! WOW! :rofl:

tyler289
01-25-2009, 11:12 PM
Oh crap!! You mean the Cards and the NFL somehow got around the Blackout rule that goes into effect when a team can't sellout their stadium??
Oh man... somone is gonna fry over this for sure!!! WOW! :rofl:

What?

Somehow Steelers fans are "uninformed," yet you just make up things that aren't true.

ADub>Bustamalu
01-25-2009, 11:13 PM
We're confident because we're gonna win. It's destiny. Aint nothin gonna break our stride, aint nothin gonna slow us down, oh no, we got to keep on movin!

Cards 27 Steelers 15

All 15 pts coming off field goals. My first post is always very trollesque. The rest will have substance. ;-)

fansince'76
01-25-2009, 11:14 PM
We're confident because we're gonna win. It's destiny. Aint nothin gonna break our stride, aint nothin gonna slow us down, oh no, we got to keep on movin!

Cards 27 Steelers 15

All 15 pts coming off field goals. My first post is always very trollesque. The rest will have substance. ;-)

:yawn:

HometownGal
01-25-2009, 11:18 PM
We're confident because we're gonna win. It's destiny. Aint nothin gonna break our stride, aint nothin gonna slow us down, oh no, we got to keep on movin!

Cards 27 Steelers 15

All 15 pts coming off field goals. My first post is always very trollesque. The rest will have substance. ;-)

Gee - can hardly wait. NOT.

X-Terminator
01-25-2009, 11:23 PM
We're confident because we're gonna win. It's destiny. Aint nothin gonna break our stride, aint nothin gonna slow us down, oh no, we got to keep on movin!

Cards 27 Steelers 15

All 15 pts coming off field goals. My first post is always very trollesque. The rest will have substance. ;-)

Right. :coffee:

Well, please do us all a favor and take your "substance" back to the sand dune you crawled from under.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:23 PM
We're confident because we're gonna win. It's destiny. Aint nothin gonna break our stride, aint nothin gonna slow us down, oh no, we got to keep on movin!

Cards 27 Steelers 15

All 15 pts coming off field goals. My first post is always very trollesque. The rest will have substance. ;-)



You do know outside of arizona nobody gives a shit about adrian wilson. Apparently he plays Safety for one of the worst defenses in the nfl and most pathetic franchises in the last 15 years. He also played on the team that layed down at the end of the season and got their shit packed by half the league. 9-7 Ties Worst record ever in the Super Bowl. Im sorry but a Safety on arguably the worst pass defense in the league is not even in the same category as Tyrone Carter.

Wow you guys sold out 2 whole years.

I just put myself on the cardinals waiting list.



It took me a second to scroll this far and i got 4 tickets on the 50.

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 11:25 PM
What?

Somehow Steelers fans are "uninformed," yet you just make up things that aren't true.

I guess you guys are lying as well??

AFC Divisional Playoff Game:

Heinz Field Seating Capacity: 65,050

Attendance: 63,899

Hmmm.... looks like you guys know how to get around the Blackout rule as well!! LMAO!!!

:rofl:

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:25 PM
I guess all of a sudden your team is gonna make the best defensive peformance in the history of the franchise against the steelers in the super bowl.

You are a absolute moron.

ADub>Bustamalu
01-25-2009, 11:27 PM
You do know outside of arizona nobody gives a shit about adrian wilson. Apparently he plays Safety for one of the worst defenses in the nfl and most pathetic franchises in the last 15 years. He also played on the team that layed down at the end of the season and got their shit packed by half the league. 9-7 Ties Worst record ever in the Super Bowl. Im sorry but a Safety on arguably the worst pass defense in the league is not even in the same category as Tyrone Carter.

Wow you guys sold out 2 whole years.

I just put myself on the cardinals waiting list.



It took me a second to scroll this far and i got 4 tickets on the 50.



That's hilarious. I know this is just smack talk and there's no way even you believe the garbage that your typing? Adrian Wilson is The Premier safety in the league. You will find out just how bad ass he is on Sunday.

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tony hipchest
01-25-2009, 11:27 PM
We're confident because we're gonna win. It's destiny. Aint nothin gonna break our stride, aint nothin gonna slow us down, oh no, we got to keep on movin!

Cards 27 Steelers 15

All 15 pts coming off field goals. My first post is always very trollesque. The rest will have substance. ;-)
did you just quote lyrics from "karma chamellion"? :dang: or is it "do you really wanna hurt me"? :thumbsup:

:flap: :toofunny:

fansince'76
01-25-2009, 11:28 PM
That's hilarious. I know this is just smack talk and there's no way even you believe the garbage that your typing? Adrian Wilson is The Premier safety in the league. You will find out just how bad ass he is on Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd8oZnrMzI8

Your defense sucks. You're a troll. And you're now gone. Idiot.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:30 PM
Premier Safety hahahaha. Doesnt your team need to play defense for anyone to be premier. That was a great video of your safety not fast enough to close on the JP "The Rocket" Lossman.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:31 PM
I know if i was a premier safety and my defense got torched all year long i would do my team a favor and retire.

tyler289
01-25-2009, 11:31 PM
I guess you guys are lying as well??

AFC Divisional Playoff Game:

Heinz Field Seating Capacity: 65,050

Attendance: 63,899

Hmmm.... looks like you guys know how to get around the Blackout rule as well!! LMAO!!!

:rofl:


I never said a word about Heinz Field, I'm just calling you out about your "we've sold out EVERY game since 2006"

looking through the preseason there's some non-sold out games. they've obviously sold better since 06 because of the improved product and the nice new stadium

and the funny thing is 4-5,000 of the fans there are from opposing teams (if not more)

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:38 PM
Not to mention he looked at attendance numbers. The people that sit next to me at the stadium have been season ticket holders for 30 years and live in St. Thomas. They dont go to every game and they wont sell or scalp tickets. This is just one example. I know pile of season tickets holder 3,000 miles away.

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 11:41 PM
I never said a word about Heinz Field, I'm just calling you out about your "we've sold out EVERY game since 2006"

looking through the preseason there's some non-sold out games. they've obviously sold better since 06 because of the improved product and the nice new stadium

and the funny thing is 4-5,000 of the fans there are from opposing teams (if not more)


This is sad... :banging:

Look, you post on this board as a Steeler fan, which, I am told means that you possess a never-seen-before level of smarts, so I would think I wouldn't have to spell this out to you... Perhaps I was mistaken...

Let me ask: Does the NFL define "sellout" differently for the Steelers than they do for the Cardinals? 'Cuz, if the NFL calls it a sellout, then I would presume however they arrived at that determination would be the same method they would have used across the NFL, including the sacred Steeler franchise.
So, if Heinz Field really isn't sold out, yet the NFL calls it s sellout and you guys claim it's a sellout, well - then I guess the Cards can also claim a sellout when the NFL determines our games to be sellouts... :salute:

And, I know your team is the only team in the NFL that never has opposing fans at your stadium (LMAO...), but yea - those 35 Eagle fans at the game last week really got into it, huh?? :toofunny:

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 11:43 PM
Not to mention he looked at attendance numbers. The people that sit next to me at the stadium have been season ticket holders for 30 years and live in St. Thomas. They dont go to every game and they wont sell or scalp tickets. This is just one example. I know pile of season tickets holder 3,000 miles away.


Wrong again... The figures I used were "Paid Attendance"... I assumed Tyle289 did the same, but man... you guys are giving me serious reason to doubt your football IQ's!!! :laughing:

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:47 PM
This is sad... :banging:

Look, you post on this board as a Steeler fan, which, I am told means that you possess a never-seen-before level of smarts, so I would think I wouldn't have to spell this out to you... Perhaps I was mistaken...

Let me ask: Does the NFL define "sellout" differently for the Steelers than they do for the Cardinals? 'Cuz, if the NFL calls it a sellout, then I would presume however they arrived at that determination would be the same method they would have used across the NFL, including the sacred Steeler franchise.
So, if Heinz Field really isn't sold out, yet the NFL calls it s sellout and you guys claim it's a sellout, well - then I guess the Cards can also claim a sellout when the NFL determines our games to be sellouts... :salute:

And, I know your team is the only team in the NFL that never has opposing fans at your stadium (LMAO...), but yea - those 35 Eagle fans at the game last week really got into it, huh?? :toofunny:

The number you looked at was a attendance number. Do you know what attendance mean. If you think about it it's quite easy. How many people attended the game. Which has nothing to do with selling out tickets. My Girlfriends family has been on the season ticket waiting list for 7 years. 7 years ago we had 50,000 more people on the waiting list than you did in your stadium.

tyler289
01-25-2009, 11:48 PM
This is sad... :banging:

Look, you post on this board as a Steeler fan, which, I am told means that you possess a never-seen-before level of smarts, so I would think I wouldn't have to spell this out to you... Perhaps I was mistaken...

Let me ask: Does the NFL define "sellout" differently for the Steelers than they do for the Cardinals? 'Cuz, if the NFL calls it a sellout, then I would presume however they arrived at that determination would be the same method they would have used across the NFL, including the sacred Steeler franchise.
So, if Heinz Field really isn't sold out, yet the NFL calls it s sellout and you guys claim it's a sellout, well - then I guess the Cards can also claim a sellout when the NFL determines our games to be sellouts... :salute:

And, I know your team is the only team in the NFL that never has opposing fans at your stadium (LMAO...), but yea - those 35 Eagle fans at the game last week really got into it, huh?? :toofunny:


Funny...did I ever say anything about Heinz Field selling out? No. I'll take the general consensus that Heinz has been sold out for years, and I know from experience that the waiting list is just about as long as I've been alive. I'm sure the bandwagoners will help the Cards out next year, win or lose, but it's not like U. of Phoenix stadium (btw, awful name, that just sucks) has been known for their fans like Heinz has.

Keep trying to act like Cards' games aren't always infested with other fans...I'm sure the millions of die-hard Cardinals fans will make the treck to Tampa as well...

82CardsGrad
01-25-2009, 11:49 PM
The number you looked at was a attendance number. Do you know what attendance mean. If you think about it it's quite easy. How many people attended the game. Which has nothing to do with selling out tickets. My Girlfriends family has been on the season ticket waiting list for 7 years. 7 years ago we had 50,000 more people on the waiting list than you did in your stadium.

Dude - seriously, you are now making being wrong a habit!!! C'mon man... I gotta believe you're better than this. You're a Steeler fan for gods sake! :rofl:

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:51 PM
I imagine you got your figures from the NFL or Heinz Field. Or let me guess wikipedia.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:53 PM
I imagine you got your figures from the NFL or Heinz Field. Or let me guess wikipedia.



1973 is when we started a waiting list.

Paid Attendance means how many people walked through the gates with a ticket
Do you know why they say Paid. Ill tell you Troll. Because they dont count a HS Band, Coaches, Players, Media, NFL Officials, Enertainment, Workers. Thats why it is a paid attendance you jagoff.

TheSteelCurtain
01-25-2009, 11:54 PM
Educate yourself dont be a fool.

X-Terminator
01-25-2009, 11:54 PM
OK, let's just end this debate right now.

The NFL goes by # of tickets sold. That means if the Steelers and Cards sell every ticket, then it's a sellout by NFL rules and the game is televised. Of course, the ACTUAL attendance, which is the official number that the teams use and is the one that is announced during games, can be different because of no-shows if it's less than capacity, or standing-room only if it's over capacity. The Steelers sold out both of their games well in advance, but against the Chargers, there were quite a few no-shows and there were some, though not as many, for the AFCCG. I personally know people who had tickets and did not go either game mainly because of the weather.

Discussion over. Let's move on.

82CardsGrad
01-26-2009, 12:05 AM
Funny...did I ever say anything about Heinz Field selling out? No. I'll take the general consensus that Heinz has been sold out for years, and I know from experience that the waiting list is just about as long as I've been alive. I'm sure the bandwagoners will help the Cards out next year, win or lose, but it's not like U. of Phoenix stadium (btw, awful name, that just sucks) has been known for their fans like Heinz has.

Keep trying to act like Cards' games aren't always infested with other fans...I'm sure the millions of die-hard Cardinals fans will make the treck to Tampa as well...

This has now reached the pathetic stage...

You threw up #'s in an attempt to prove that Univ. of Phoenix Stadium was not sold out. Yet, the team and the league called the games official sellouts.
I threw up numbers (SteelCurtan - pay attention: PAID ATTENDANCE) that showed that Heinz Field wasn't a sellout, yet the team and the league called it an official sellout... 'nuff said dude... connect the friggin dots! I have faith in you bro!

You guys just don't get it... And that's just the way we fans and our team prefer it... The Cards have a HUGE home field advantage. Since UoP opened, we are 18 & 8 at home... Man, just imagine what our record would be if us fans only knew how to be fans!! :laughing:

Oh, yea... Heinz Field... nice name there too! I mean, who wouldn't want a football field named after Ketchup! And the company that makes it is the company of the wife of the great senator from Massachusettes, John Kerry... Theresa Heinz Kerry!!!! LMAO!!!! :rofl:

82CardsGrad
01-26-2009, 12:07 AM
OK, let's just end this debate right now.

The NFL goes by # of tickets sold. That means if the Steelers and Cards sell every ticket, then it's a sellout by NFL rules and the game is televised. Of course, the ACTUAL attendance, which is the official number that the teams use and is the one that is announced during games, can be different because of no-shows if it's less than capacity, or standing-room only if it's over capacity. The Steelers sold out both of their games well in advance, but against the Chargers, there were quite a few no-shows and there were some, though not as many, for the AFCCG. I personally know people who had tickets and did not go either game mainly because of the weather.

Discussion over. Let's move on.

Thank You for bringing some logic and sanity into this discussion...

:thmbup:

Pi Kapp Steeler
01-26-2009, 12:10 AM
That's hilarious. I know this is just smack talk and there's no way even you believe the garbage that your typing? Adrian Wilson is The Premier safety in the league. You will find out just how bad ass he is on Sunday.




BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :chuckle: :toofunny: :rofl: :laughing: :sofunny:

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 12:13 AM
"(SteelCurtan - pay attention: PAID ATTENDANCE) that showed that Heinz Field wasn't a sellout, yet the team and the league called it an official sellout... 'nuff said dude... connect the friggin dots! I have faith in you bro!"


Like i said the paid attendance number has nothing to do with being a deemed a sellout.. Who needs to pay attention and connect dots.

82CardsGrad
01-26-2009, 12:15 AM
OK, let's just end this debate right now.

The NFL goes by # of tickets sold. That means if the Steelers and Cards sell every ticket, then it's a sellout by NFL rules and the game is televised. Of course, the ACTUAL attendance, which is the official number that the teams use and is the one that is announced during games, can be different because of no-shows if it's less than capacity, or standing-room only if it's over capacity. The Steelers sold out both of their games well in advance, but against the Chargers, there were quite a few no-shows and there were some, though not as many, for the AFCCG. I personally know people who had tickets and did not go either game mainly because of the weather.

Discussion over. Let's move on.

"(SteelCurtan - pay attention: PAID ATTENDANCE) that showed that Heinz Field wasn't a sellout, yet the team and the league called it an official sellout... 'nuff said dude... connect the friggin dots! I have faith in you bro!"


Like i said the paid attendance number has nothing to do with being a deemed a sellout.. Who needs to pay attention and connect dots.

Dude, are you really this stupid?? Seriously.... c'mon now man... c'mon.... :banging:

Pi Kapp Steeler
01-26-2009, 12:17 AM
Anyone know when media day is?? God I hope our steelers don't say anything stupid.

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 12:18 AM
WTF are you talking about. I never said anything about you not selling out playoff games. You tried to say we didnt sell out Heinz Field.

Sell Out=How Many Tickets Sold.

Paid Attendance=How many people walked through the gates with a ticket.

VegasStlrFan
01-26-2009, 12:19 AM
did you just quote lyrics from "karma chamellion"? :dang: or is it "do you really wanna hurt me"? :thumbsup:

:flap: :toofunny:

Men At Work, Aint nothing gonna hold me down....and I'm really embarassed to know that :doh:

Pi Kapp Steeler
01-26-2009, 12:19 AM
Don't let him get to ya Curtain he just likes to antagonize people.

82CardsGrad
01-26-2009, 12:21 AM
WTF are you talking about. I never said anything about you not selling out playoff games. You tried to say we didnt sell out Heinz Field.

Sell Out=How Many Tickets Sold.

Paid Attendance=How many people walked through the gates with a ticket.

I think I'm not making the point well enough I guess...

Look, I am assuming that Tyler used the same form of data I did - PAID ATTENDANCE. Therefore, he has no greater ability to claim a sellout at Heinz than I can at UoP. We don't know how many tickets were sold, only that the league says you guys and us, sold enough to constitute a sellout...

That's all... Good night.... :banging:

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 12:22 AM
Oh i dont let people get to me. I take Heinz Field Personally.
Dont try to tell me something that i know isnt right.

Pi Kapp Steeler
01-26-2009, 12:23 AM
I think I'm not making the point well enough I guess...

Look, I am assuming that Tyler used the same form of data I did - PAID ATTENDANCE. Therefore, he has no greater ability to claim a sellout at Heinz than I can at UoP. We don't know how many tickets were sold, only that the league says you guys and us, sold enough to constitute a sellout...

That's all... Good night.... :banging:

Keep bashing your head up against the wall cards, maybe that is the source of all the nonsense that come out of your mouth

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 12:27 AM
You guys did sell out your Playoff Games 4 days before they were played with 2 extensions. I suppose it has something to do with people in Arizona not even believing they have a winning football team. So it took them a while to get the facts straight that yes it is true. The Seahawks, Niners and Rams all managed to suck enough for us to get into the playoff. Hey you guys can claim that NFL first. Even the Lions never came that close to a blackout.

LVSteelersfan
01-26-2009, 12:30 AM
Does anyone really care if Phoenix sold out their playoff games. Funny thing is that I heard FOR SURE that they had to extend the time so that they could get the sellout. Doesn't say much for your fans. BTW, the Super Bowl is sold out and I guarantee that there will be at least 80% Steeler fans, about 15% corporate jacka$$es kiss a$$es, and less than 5% real Cardinal fans when you add in all of the bandwagon jumpers that will be there. Good luck with the noise in that stadium.

LVSteelersfan
01-26-2009, 12:32 AM
BTW mods, why exactly are you letting this annoying Cards troll hang out here and keep bashing everything someone who really belongs here says? Just wondering. Is it because of entertainment value or just because you want to keep letting him sound like the fool he is?

Pi Kapp Steeler
01-26-2009, 12:36 AM
I find it pretty entertaining :chuckle:

shevdog
01-26-2009, 12:40 AM
Cardinals have fans? Wow!

steelfanman
01-26-2009, 12:45 AM
Don’t let these Cardinals “fans” rile you up over how they’ve sold out this, or sold out that, or our stadium capacity is this or that. Just the rest of the garbage that comes from these people…it’s blah, blah, blah.

I’m a 35 year resident of Arizona, basically raised here, and I currently live 2 miles from the stadium. I’ve watched EVERY single Steelers game for the last 17 years when the bars would let me in to watch, which I know 95% of the Cardinals fans cannot boast because until 2006 you could only see 8 games per year unless you had season tickets, and back then MAYBE a pathetic 29,000 or so per season could claim that unless they sold their tickets to Cowboys fans, which if you went to any of those games was there were A LOT of scalping going on.

Any honest Cardinals fan will tell you EXACTLY why the new stadium has been sold out for 3 seasons straight. It’s a very simple formula, and here it is:

1. Anything shiny and new is very attractive to this culturally bankrupt area of the country…and University of Phoenix Stadium certainly is shiny and new (see Arizona Diamondbacks, and their steadily declining fan base since the 2001 Championship Season after the luster of the worst baseball stadium in the Majors wore off).

2. Arizona Cardinal season ticket holders get priority for the lottery to purchase Super Bowl tickets, under the assumption that Glendale will become a regular stop in the rotation (which it has not since the crown jewel of Maricopa County couldn’t even beat out the new cow shed in Indy for 2012).

3. Season ticket holders also get first crack at the opportunity to purchase tickets to the BCS Championship game, which is in the regular rotation here. Season ticket holders also get discounted tickets to the Fiesta Bowl.

To be fair, a new corollary will need to be added as a reason for the sellouts, starting next year:

4. Cardinals won Division and Conference Championships, and nearly won SB XLIII. Many thanks go to the Rooney family for branching out in a partnership with the Bidwills to open a new franchise west of the Mississippi.

I know about a half dozen “die hard” Cardinal season ticket holders, who all admitted they wouldn’t have dropped the $800 for season tickets in 2006 if they didn’t have a chance to buy and scalp a $2000 SB ticket.

Oh, and the Atlanta game? Don’t be proud you “sold out” that game when the last 2000 tickets were probably bought by a corporate sponsor as a tax write-off at Zero Hour, after TWO deadline extensions were granted by the League Office.

I don’t give a crap about numbers, bottom line: the Cardinals sell out their games because it’s the cool thing to do here....and tailgating there is damn fun. The Steelers sell out their games because the people that are lucky enough to buy tickets love the team to the core and know that it is a special thing just to be a part of the Steelers history and tradition. I know I felt that way when I was lucky enough to finally go to a Steelers home game myself!

westcoastransplant
01-26-2009, 01:53 AM
Screw that... Cards fans hang out at www.arizonasportsfans.com. Trust me, we know how difficult this win will be... It won't be easy at all!

:chuckle:

Kind of like this well educated post:

winning the Super Bowl ain't gonna be an unexpected event. It's a mathematical certainty as far as I'm concerned at this point.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/the-cardinals-will-win-super-bowl-xliii-fortune-cookie-told-me-so-128186.html

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 02:08 AM
82CardsGrad is a absolute fool. If i am that pathetic at 40+ years old i will kill myself.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-26-2009, 02:27 AM
I think I'm not making the point well enough I guess...

Look, I am assuming that Tyler used the same form of data I did - PAID ATTENDANCE. Therefore, he has no greater ability to claim a sellout at Heinz than I can at UoP. We don't know how many tickets were sold, only that the league says you guys and us, sold enough to constitute a sellout...

That's all... Good night.... :banging:

Hey Cardsgrad. Check out page 2 of this thread. Your boy the whiz of Glendale is pimping Dockett as a run stuffing tank. Those are the kind of posts that I was referring to that make some of your fellow fans look silly.

Objectively I see Dockett as an active guy that disrupts plays, runs them down backside and can make a push of the pocket in pass rushing. I dont see his 285 lb frame as one of the premier run stuffers in the league. I give you credit for knowing your team, but most of the posters that showed up here from Arizona seem more like bandwagoners that dont have much of a football IQ.

Maybe on your boards there are some more educated posters, but I honestly have never registered on another teams board and dont plan to now. Again, I think Steelers 27- Cardinals 20

4xSBChamps
01-26-2009, 06:02 AM
Adrian Wilson is The Premier safety in the league.

..... what you think passes for 'substance' isn't even a crouton on a dog-crap salad:
seek mental help, IMMEDIATELY!!!!!
:doh:

SteelCityMom
01-26-2009, 08:59 AM
This has now reached the pathetic stage...

You threw up #'s in an attempt to prove that Univ. of Phoenix Stadium was not sold out. Yet, the team and the league called the games official sellouts.
I threw up numbers (SteelCurtan - pay attention: PAID ATTENDANCE) that showed that Heinz Field wasn't a sellout, yet the team and the league called it an official sellout... 'nuff said dude... connect the friggin dots! I have faith in you bro!

You guys just don't get it... And that's just the way we fans and our team prefer it... The Cards have a HUGE home field advantage. Since UoP opened, we are 18 & 8 at home... Man, just imagine what our record would be if us fans only knew how to be fans!! :laughing:

Oh, yea... Heinz Field... nice name there too! I mean, who wouldn't want a football field named after Ketchup! And the company that makes it is the company of the wife of the great senator from Massachusettes, John Kerry... Theresa Heinz Kerry!!!! LMAO!!!! :rofl:

You have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to H.J Heinz Co., way to rip on a Fortune 500 company that has Lynn Swann on the board of directors (I'm sure THAT and the fact the company was founded in Pittsburgh has nothing to do with the name of the Stadium). I also don't know where you get the info that Theresa Heinz Kerry has anything to do with the company other than being a shareholder...she's not mentioned anywhere in the business dealings...in fact William R. Johnson is the Chairman, President and CEO of the business.

Also they do not make only ketchup, by 1972, sales had reached the billion dollar mark. Today, Heinz sells more than 1,300 products worldwide ranging from ketchup to baby food.

Why you feel the need to just randomly rip on something like that is beyond me, most of your posts have at least had some sense of football knowledge to them, but they have been backsliding into trolldom very quickly.

Steelcitygal87
01-26-2009, 09:11 AM
You have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to H.J Heinz Co., way to rip on a Fortune 500 company that has Lynn Swann on the board of directors (I'm sure THAT and the fact the company was founded in Pittsburgh has nothing to do with the name of the Stadium). I also don't know where you get the info that Theresa Heinz Kerry has anything to do with the company other than being a shareholder...she's not mentioned anywhere in the business dealings...in fact William R. Johnson is the Chairman, President and CEO of the business.

Also they do not make only ketchup, by 1972, sales had reached the billion dollar mark. Today, Heinz sells more than 1,300 products worldwide ranging from ketchup to baby food.

Why you feel the need to just randomly rip on something like that is beyond me, most of your posts have at least had some sense of football knowledge to them, but they have been backsliding into trolldom very quickly.



Your last paragraph...I don't understand why he resorted to that type of behavior either. I thought the same as you about him........at first. Just goes to show you...eventually a person's true colors are revealed.

fansince'76
01-26-2009, 09:24 AM
Oh, yea... Heinz Field... nice name there too! I mean, who wouldn't want a football field named after Ketchup! And the company that makes it is the company of the wife of the great senator from Massachusettes, John Kerry... Theresa Heinz Kerry!!!! LMAO!!!! :rofl:

As opposed to being named for a so-called school that was fined $10 million by the Feds for paying wrongful performance incentives to recruiters and whose "degrees" get laughed at by prospective employers?

HometownGal
01-26-2009, 09:27 AM
Kind of like this well educated post:

winning the Super Bowl ain't gonna be an unexpected event. It's a mathematical certainty as far as I'm concerned at this point.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/the-cardinals-will-win-super-bowl-xliii-fortune-cookie-told-me-so-128186.html

With a moniker like "cheesebeef", are ya surprised? :chuckle:

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 11:07 AM
The best part about UoP is whenever the novelty and the shine of a new stadium wear off and it starts to smell of Failure like the history of the cardinals and all the fans turned on the team like history of these guys showed us. Maybee they can turn it into a clinic for all the meth heads running around the desert.

KeiselPower99
01-26-2009, 11:45 AM
Don’t let these Cardinals “fans” rile you up over how they’ve sold out this, or sold out that, or our stadium capacity is this or that. Just the rest of the garbage that comes from these people…it’s blah, blah, blah.

I’m a 35 year resident of Arizona, basically raised here, and I currently live 2 miles from the stadium. I’ve watched EVERY single Steelers game for the last 17 years when the bars would let me in to watch, which I know 95% of the Cardinals fans cannot boast because until 2006 you could only see 8 games per year unless you had season tickets, and back then MAYBE a pathetic 29,000 or so per season could claim that unless they sold their tickets to Cowboys fans, which if you went to any of those games was there were A LOT of scalping going on.

Any honest Cardinals fan will tell you EXACTLY why the new stadium has been sold out for 3 seasons straight. It’s a very simple formula, and here it is:

1. Anything shiny and new is very attractive to this culturally bankrupt area of the country…and University of Phoenix Stadium certainly is shiny and new (see Arizona Diamondbacks, and their steadily declining fan base since the 2001 Championship Season after the luster of the worst baseball stadium in the Majors wore off).

2. Arizona Cardinal season ticket holders get priority for the lottery to purchase Super Bowl tickets, under the assumption that Glendale will become a regular stop in the rotation (which it has not since the crown jewel of Maricopa County couldn’t even beat out the new cow shed in Indy for 2012).

3. Season ticket holders also get first crack at the opportunity to purchase tickets to the BCS Championship game, which is in the regular rotation here. Season ticket holders also get discounted tickets to the Fiesta Bowl.

To be fair, a new corollary will need to be added as a reason for the sellouts, starting next year:

4. Cardinals won Division and Conference Championships, and nearly won SB XLIII. Many thanks go to the Rooney family for branching out in a partnership with the Bidwills to open a new franchise west of the Mississippi.

I know about a half dozen “die hard” Cardinal season ticket holders, who all admitted they wouldn’t have dropped the $800 for season tickets in 2006 if they didn’t have a chance to buy and scalp a $2000 SB ticket.

Oh, and the Atlanta game? Don’t be proud you “sold out” that game when the last 2000 tickets were probably bought by a corporate sponsor as a tax write-off at Zero Hour, after TWO deadline extensions were granted by the League Office.

I don’t give a crap about numbers, bottom line: the Cardinals sell out their games because it’s the cool thing to do here....and tailgating there is damn fun. The Steelers sell out their games because the people that are lucky enough to buy tickets love the team to the core and know that it is a special thing just to be a part of the Steelers history and tradition. I know I felt that way when I was lucky enough to finally go to a Steelers home game myself!

Exactley. Jump on the wagon now but when you hit the Steel Curtain its one helluva stop.

stlrtruck
01-26-2009, 12:20 PM
I see the cardinals as our JV squad. You know the team you mostly beat up on but occassionally they pull a victory off in practice (i.e. 2007 season).

And under normal circumstance I wish them well.

But this Sunday is not normal. It involves a game, not just a game, THE game - and with everything that is in me, I do desire for their demise.

But if it makes the cards fans feel better I hope you have a better season next year.

westcoastransplant
01-26-2009, 12:46 PM
As opposed to being named for a so-called school that was fined $10 million by the Feds for paying wrongful performance incentives to recruiters and whose "degrees" get laughed at by prospective employers?

Funny, I didn't see his post questioning the naming of Heinz Field. Nevermind that Heinz is one of the largest companies in Pittsburgh today. Nevermind that they employ over 32,000 employees. They also choose to invest in numerous local interests and will not spend money with any sports franchise outside of Pittsburgh, believe me, I've tried to get them to spend money with my team. They've told me they do not do sponsorship outside Pittsburgh.

westcoastransplant
01-26-2009, 12:51 PM
With a moniker like "cheesebeef", are ya surprised? :chuckle:

Not too many things do these days, especially over the last week. :noidea:

scsteeler
01-26-2009, 12:55 PM
They sound like Chargers fans.


Actually that is the way I would want the Cards Fans and the Team also. Come in thinking you will do the same thing to the Steelers that you did to Carolina. I also like of thinki that we don't have any offense.

In the Raven's game had 2 balls not been dropped and in my opinion a TD not been called back Ben would have had over 400 yards passing against the Second rank Defense in the NFL and we all know who is the No. 1 Defense.

And if it comes down to a last drive in the 4th to win the game like Philly had I really love our chances because Ben lives for that moment.

:tt02:

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 01:02 PM
we are 2nd to Arizona in Playoff Scoring and by 1.7 points. Not to mention. They played 3 games we played 2.

STEEL-MAN
01-26-2009, 01:08 PM
i remember in the late 70's how I felt about the Steelers, like they were always going to be in the SB. they were that awesome, I took them for granted. Then came the 80's our greats retired, rules changed and players started to get more money, retooling was more difficult.

the Cards fans should enjoy their success, it doesn't happen all the time! Just don't be d i c k s about it like Raven fans:drink:

KeiselPower99
01-26-2009, 02:18 PM
I wonder if the LA Rams fans acted like this back in January of 1980. A team no one gave a chance too that got there.

Pi Kapp Steeler
01-26-2009, 02:38 PM
I was reading the NFL chat with pat kirwin, which i got from Lambertlosttooth' thread that he create.

It seems according to Pat, the Steelers are the underdogs and we dont have a chance to stop Fitz, Sack Warner, Run with Willie, or Holme breaking away from Cromartie.

:noidea:

Talk about "no respect"-Rodney Dangerfield
http://www.teehanlax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/RodneyDangerfield_Album_no_respect.jpg

SteelersinCA
01-26-2009, 04:28 PM
more and more media people are jumping on the Cardinals, and that is fine by me, absolutely fine.

JackHammer
01-26-2009, 05:09 PM
I honestly think it will be like the Rams-Titans super bowl, with a good offense against a solid defensive team. The difference is that the Cards aint the "greatest show on turf" and the Steelers D is much better than the Titans was.

Steelers 27- Cardinals 20

Welll that, and MARSHALL FAULK, and the fact that the Rams had a helluva defense all season long.

Texasteel
01-26-2009, 05:19 PM
Hey Cardsgrad. Check out page 2 of this thread. Your boy the whiz of Glendale is pimping Dockett as a run stuffing tank. Those are the kind of posts that I was referring to that make some of your fellow fans look silly.

Objectively I see Dockett as an active guy that disrupts plays, runs them down backside and can make a push of the pocket in pass rushing. I dont see his 285 lb frame as one of the premier run stuffers in the league. I give you credit for knowing your team, but most of the posters that showed up here from Arizona seem more like bandwagoners that dont have much of a football IQ.

Maybe on your boards there are some more educated posters, but I honestly have never registered on another teams board and dont plan to now. Again, I think Steelers 27- Cardinals 20


Comeon Gonzo, let them enjoy themselved this week. God knows they won't enjoy the game much.

4xSBChamps
01-26-2009, 05:34 PM
more and more media people are jumping on the Cardinals, and that is fine by me, absolutely fine.

had to watch "ROME IS BURNING" (a show that I hate to watch or hear) while having a sammich, and a couple of talking heads both basically said that the Cardinals have no-chance at beating 'em Stillers:
hopefully, the players aren't paying attention to this bullsh!t.

TheSteelCurtain
01-26-2009, 06:13 PM
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u56/jtruff/cardinals2.jpg