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darnik44
01-27-2009, 08:20 AM
Round One

1. Detroit Lions (0-16-0) - Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia*
2. St. Louis Rams (2-14-0) - Aaron Curry, OLB/ILB, Wake Forest
3. Kansas City Chiefs (2-14-0) - Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
4. Seattle Seahawks (4-12-0) - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech#
5. Cleveland Browns (4-12-0) - Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas
6. Cincinnati Bengals (4-11-1) - Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State*
7. Oakland Raiders (5-11-0) - Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri#
8. Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11-0) - Rey Maualuga, ILB/OLB, Southern California
9. Green Bay Packers (6-10-0) - LeSean McCoy, RB, Pitt#
10. San Francisco 49ers (7-9-0) - B.J. Raji, DT/NT, Boston College
11. Buffalo Bills (7-9-0) - Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
12. Denver Broncos (8-8-0) - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia#
13. Washington Redskins (8-8-0) - Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio State
14. New Orleans Saints (8-8-0) - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois*
15. Houston Texans (8-8-0) - Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
16. San Diego Chargers (8-8-0) - Percy Harvin, WR, Florida*
17. New York Jets (9-7-0) - Mark Sanchez, QB Southern California*
18. Chicago Bears (9-7-0) - Michael Oher, OT/OG, Mississippi
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7-0) - Everette Brown, DE/OLB, Florida State*
20. Detroit Lions (from DAL) - James Laurinaitis, ILB/OLB, Ohio State
21. Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1) - Andre Smith, OT/OG, Alabama*
22. Minnesota Vikings (10-6-0) - D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt*
23. New England Patriots - Brian Cushing, OLB/ILB, Southern California
24. Atlanta Falcons (11-5-0) - Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi
25. Miami Dolphins (11-5-0) - Michael Johnson, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
26. Baltimore Ravens (11-5-0) - Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn State
27. Indianapolis Colts (12-4-0) - Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from CAR) - Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama
29. New York Giants (12-4-0) - Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers*
30. Tennessee Titans (13-3) - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR Maryland*
31. Arizona Cardinals (9-7-0) - Tyson Jackson, DE/DT, Louisiana State
32. Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4-0) - Derek Pegues, FS/CB, Mississippi State

Round Two

33. Detroit Lions - Louis Delmas, FS/SS, Western Michigan
34. Kansas City Chiefs - Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
35. St. Louis Rams - Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
36. Cleveland Browns - Clay Mathews, OLB/ILB, Southern California
37. Seattle Seahawks - Fili Moala, DT/DE, Southern California
38. Cincinnati Bengals - Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
39. Jacksonville Jaguars - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn*
40. Oakland Raiders - Eben Britton, OT, Arizona*
41. Green Bay Packers - Clint Sintim, OLB/ILB, Virginia
42. Buffalo Bills - Maurice Evans, DE, Penn State
43. San Francisco 49ers - Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois
44. Houston Texans - Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon
45. Miami Dolphins (from WAS) - Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah*
46. New York Giants (from NO) - Darry Beckwith, ILB/OLB, Louisiana State
47. Denver Broncos - Alex Mack, C/OG, California
48. New England Patriots (from SD) - Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa*
49. New York Jets - Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina*
50. Chicago Bears - Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State*
51. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, Louisiana State*
52. Dallas Cowboys - Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
53. Philadelphia Eagles - Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Mississippi
54. Minnesota Vikings - Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State
55. New England Patriots - Asher Allen, CB, Georgia*
56. Atlanta Falcons - Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
57. Miami Dolphins - Pat White, WR/QB, West Virginia
58. Baltimore Ravens - Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State
59. Indianapolis Colts - Alex Magee, DT, Purdue
60. Carolina Panthers - Nate Davis, QB, Ball State*
61. New York Giants - William Moore, FS/SS, Missouri
62. Tennessee Titans - Captain Munnerlyn, CB, South Carolina*
63. Arizona Cardinals - Eric Wood, C/OG, Louisville
64. Pittsburgh Steelers - William Beatty, OT, Connecticut

Round Three

65. Detroit Lions - Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
66. St. Louis Rams - Fenuki Tupou, OT/OG, Oregon
67. Kansas City Chiefs - Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State
68. Seattle Seahawks - Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
69. Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) - Kenny McKinnley, WR, South Carolina
70. Cincinnati Bengals - Zach Follett, OLB/ILB, California
71. Oakland Raiders - Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut
72. Jacksonville Jaguars - Demetrius Byrd, WR, Louisiana State
73. Green Bay Packers - Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati
74. San Francisco 49ers - Kevin Ellison, SS/FS, Southern California
75. Buffalo Bills - Jarron Gilbert, DT, San Jose State
76. New Orleans Saints - Tyrone McKenzie, OLB, South Florida
77. Washington Redskins - Herman Johnson, OG/OT, Louisiana State
78. Denver Broncos - Otis Wiley, SS, Michigan State
79. Houston Texans - Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona
80. San Diego Chargers - Kyle Moore, DE, Southern California
81. New York Jets - Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati
82. Chicago Bears - Brandon Gibson, WR, Washington State
83. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
84. Detroit Lions (from DAL) - Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane
85. Philadelphia Eagles - Javon Ringer, RB, Michigan State
86. Minnesota Vikings - Scott McKillop, ILB, Pitt
87. New England Patriots - Tim Jamison, DE/OLB, Michigan
88. Atlanta Falcons - Xavier Fulton, OT/OG, Illinois
89. Miami Dolphins - Anthony Heygood, OLB/ILB, Purdue
90. Baltimore Ravens - Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State
91. Indianapolis Colts - Austin Collie, WR, Brigham Young
92. Carolina Panthers - Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State
93. New York Giants - Lawrence Sidbury, DE/OLB, Richmond
94. Tennessee Titans - Nic Harris, SS/OLB, Oklahoma
95. Arizona Cardinals - Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut*
96. Pittsburgh Steelers - Antoine Caldwell, C/OG, Alabama

darnik44
01-27-2009, 08:21 AM
1. Detroit Lions (0-16-0) - Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia*
20. Detroit Lions (from DAL) - James Laurinaitis, ILB/OLB, Ohio State
33. Detroit Lions - Louis Delmas, FS/SS, Western Michigan
65. Detroit Lions - Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
84. Detroit Lions (from DAL) - Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane

2. St. Louis Rams (2-14-0) - Aaron Curry, OLB/ILB, Wake Forest
35. St. Louis Rams - Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
66. St. Louis Rams - Fenuki Tupou, OT/OG, Oregon

3. Kansas City Chiefs (2-14-0) - Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
34. Kansas City Chiefs - Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
67. Kansas City Chiefs - Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State

4. Seattle Seahawks (4-12-0) - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech#
37. Seattle Seahawks - Fili Moala, DT/DE, Southern California
68. Seattle Seahawks - Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State

5. Cleveland Browns (4-12-0) - Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas
36. Cleveland Browns - Clay Mathews, OLB/ILB, Southern California

6. Cincinnati Bengals (4-11-1) - Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State*
38. Cincinnati Bengals - Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
70. Cincinnati Bengals - Herman Johnson, OG/OT, Louisiana State

7. Oakland Raiders (5-11-0) - Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri#
40. Oakland Raiders - Eben Britton, OT, Arizona*
71. Oakland Raiders - Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut

8. Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11-0) - Rey Maualuga, ILB/OLB, Southern California
39. Jacksonville Jaguars - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn*
72. Jacksonville Jaguars - Demetrius Byrd, WR, Louisiana State

9. Green Bay Packers (6-10-0) - LeSean McCoy, RB, Pitt#
41. Green Bay Packers - Clint Sintim, OLB/ILB, Virginia
73. Green Bay Packers - Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati

10. San Francisco 49ers (7-9-0) - B.J. Raji, DT/NT, Boston College
43. San Francisco 49ers - Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois
74. San Francisco 49ers - Kevin Ellison, SS/FS, Southern California

11. Buffalo Bills (7-9-0) - Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
42. Buffalo Bills - Maurice Evans, DE, Penn State
75. Buffalo Bills - Jarron Gilbert, DT, San Jose State

12. Denver Broncos (8-8-0) - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia#
47. Denver Broncos - Alex Mack, C/OG, California
78. Denver Broncos - Otis Wiley, SS, Michigan State

13. Washington Redskins (8-8-0) - Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio State
77. Washington Redskins - Herman Johnson, OG/OT, Louisiana State

14. New Orleans Saints (8-8-0) - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois*
76. New Orleans Saints - Anthony Heygood, OLB/ILB, Purdue

15. Houston Texans (8-8-0) - Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
44. Houston Texans - Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon
79. Houston Texans - Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona

16. San Diego Chargers (8-8-0) - Percy Harvin, WR, Florida*
80. San Diego Chargers - Kyle Moore, DE, Southern California

17. New York Jets (9-7-0) - Mark Sanchez, QB Southern California*
49. New York Jets - Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina*
81. New York Jets - Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati

18. Chicago Bears (9-7-0) - Michael Oher, OT/OG, Mississippi
50. Chicago Bears - Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State*
82. Chicago Bears - Brandon Gibson, WR, Washington State

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7-0) - Everette Brown, DE/OLB, Florida State*
51. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, Louisiana State*
83. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina

52. Dallas Cowboys - Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
69. Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) - Kenny McKinnley, WR, South Carolina

21. Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1) - Andre Smith, OT/OG, Alabama*
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from CAR) - Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama
53. Philadelphia Eagles - Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Mississippi
85. Philadelphia Eagles - Javon Ringer, RB, Michigan State

22. Minnesota Vikings (10-6-0) - D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt*
54. Minnesota Vikings - Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State
86. Minnesota Vikings - Scott McKillop, ILB, Pitt

23. New England Patriots - Brian Cushing, OLB/ILB, Southern California
48. New England Patriots (from SD) - Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa*
55. New England Patriots - Asher Allen, CB, Georgia*
87. New England Patriots - Tim Jamison, DE/OLB, Michigan

24. Atlanta Falcons (11-5-0) - Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi
56. Atlanta Falcons - Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
88. Atlanta Falcons - Xavier Fulton, OT/OG, Illinois

25. Miami Dolphins (11-5-0) - Michael Johnson, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
45. Miami Dolphins (from WAS) - Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah*
57. Miami Dolphins - Pat White, WR/QB, West Virginia
89. Miami Dolphins - Anthony Heygood, OLB/ILB, Purdue

26. Baltimore Ravens (11-5-0) - Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn State
58. Baltimore Ravens - Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State
90. Baltimore Ravens - Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State

27. Indianapolis Colts (12-4-0) - Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
59. Indianapolis Colts - Alex Magee, DT, Purdue
91. Indianapolis Colts - Austin Collie, WR, Brigham Young

60. Carolina Panthers - Nate Davis, QB, Ball State*
92. Carolina Panthers - Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State

29. New York Giants (12-4-0) - Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers*
46. New York Giants (from NO) - Darry Beckwith, ILB/OLB, Louisiana State
61. New York Giants - William Moore, FS/SS, Missouri
93. New York Giants - Lawrence Sidbury, DE/OLB, Richmond

30. Tennessee Titans (13-3) - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR Maryland*
62. Tennessee Titans - Captain Munnerlyn, CB, South Carolina*
94. Tennessee Titans - Nic Harris, SS/OLB, Oklahoma

31. Arizona Cardinals (9-7-0) - Tyson Jackson, DE/DT, Louisiana State
63. Arizona Cardinals - Eric Wood, C/OG, Louisville
95. Arizona Cardinals - Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut*

32. Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4-0) - Derek Pegues, FS/CB, Mississippi State
64. Pittsburgh Steelers - William Beatty, OT, Connecticut
96. Pittsburgh Steelers - Antoine Caldwell, C/OG, Alabama

Texasteel
01-27-2009, 10:57 AM
If Britton and Beatty and Mack are still there when we pick, and we take a 2nd round safety, I will be shopping for a new TV.

MDSteel15
01-27-2009, 11:39 AM
Are you serious???? :banging: :banging: :banging:

darnik44
01-27-2009, 02:41 PM
If Britton and Beatty and Mack are still there when we pick, and we take a 2nd round safety, I will be shopping for a new TV.

A second round safety? There's a real good chance Pegues is off the board before the Steelers pick. Pegues is actually more of a CB. He's a versatile DB who can play CB, nickleback, or FS. Oh, he returns kicks too. Pegues is a highly intelligent, athletic kid who could help out right away. I'll bet my house, my car, and everything else I own that Mack nor Beatty will be drafted in the first round. Anybody that thinks the Steelers have to and will reach for an offensive linemen just for the sake of drafting an offensive isn't much of a fan. Not much difference between Beatty and Colon, except Beatty would be a rookie. I say that because you've apparently not paid attention to how they do things. If they draft an OL in the first it will be because they traded up for one of the 4 top OT's. The Steelers are contenders every year because they approach the draft with one need in mind. Getting the best class of players they can. The only scenario I see Britton being the pick is if they trade down.

Texasteel
01-27-2009, 03:50 PM
A second round safety? There's a real good chance Pegues is off the board before the Steelers pick. Pegues is actually more of a CB. He's a versatile DB who can play CB, nickleback, or FS. Oh, he returns kicks too. Pegues is a highly intelligent, athletic kid who could help out right away. I'll bet my house, my car, and everything else I own that Mack nor Beatty will be drafted in the first round. Anybody that thinks the Steelers have to and will reach for an offensive linemen just for the sake of drafting an offensive isn't much of a fan. Not much difference between Beatty and Colon, except Beatty would be a rookie. I say that because you've apparently not paid attention to how they do things. If they draft an OL in the first it will be because they traded up for one of the 4 top OT's. The Steelers are contenders every year because they approach the draft with one need in mind. Getting the best class of players they can. The only scenario I see Britton being the pick is if they trade down.

Apperently your idea of discussing something is to insult people. Most folks that don't know what they are talking about will do that. The only thing I have to say to such a loud mouth is, we'll just have to wait and see.

KeiselPower99
01-27-2009, 06:41 PM
I dont see Pat White going in the 2nd rd and Green Bay isnt gonna take a rb that high.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-27-2009, 06:58 PM
If Britton and Beatty and Mack are still there when we pick, and we take a 2nd round safety, I will be shopping for a new TV.

Come on, we need help in the secondary as that was the weakest part of the team this season. No need to take Beatty, Britton, Mack, Robinson, Cantwell, Moala or any linemen. :rolleyes:

Herman Johnson, Troy Kropog and Andy Levitre got abused all week in Senior Bowl practice. Xavier Fulton showed that he is a turnsitile in pass protection. I can live with Beatty, but dont think he lasts that far in the 2nd, but if we take Caldwell when Craig Urbik is still around........that is a shame. I think Cantwell, Robinson and Urbik are the best 3 guards in the draft.

MasterOfPuppets
01-27-2009, 07:08 PM
12. Denver Broncos (8-8-0) - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia#
47. Denver Broncos - Alex Mack, C/OG, California
78. Denver Broncos - Otis Wiley, SS, Michigan Statedenvers front 7 has been garbage for years, this year they're supposedly making the transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4......the guys they have now, can't even play the 4-3 let alone a 3-4....don't you think they should be looking to get players that will fit thier new scheme ??? :doh:
#2 total offence
#28 total defense
#12 offense rushing
#26 rushing D

shannahan has been neglecting the D for a long time.....the new defensive minded coach won't.

darnik44
01-27-2009, 08:13 PM
Come on, we need help in the secondary as that was the weakest part of the team this season. No need to take Beatty, Britton, Mack, Robinson, Cantwell, Moala or any linemen. :rolleyes:

Herman Johnson, Troy Kropog and Andy Levitre got abused all week in Senior Bowl practice. Xavier Fulton showed that he is a turnsitile in pass protection. I can live with Beatty, but dont think he lasts that far in the 2nd, but if we take Caldwell when Craig Urbik is still around........that is a shame. I think Cantwell, Robinson and Urbik are the best 3 guards in the draft.

None of those players you mentioned have a first round value. Maybe if you go by what Scott Wright or Todd McShay say. I've watched all these guys all season. The Steelers don't reach for players for sake of filling a need.

No the secondary wasn't an issue this year. They were arguably the best unit on the team. What sets the Steelers apart from other teams is the fact that they draft as much for the future as they do the now. They don't have to bring in rookies to get better in certain areas. They bring in players and develope them and work them in slow. Because of this they always have a lot of depth, and can overcome injuries. There are very few starters who would be very threatened by a rookie to take their starting job. Even if they would reach for on offensive linemen in the first, would you expect them to start next year? That's just not usually the case for the Steelers. So instead of reaching for a player and overpaying him just to sit for a year they can end up with a guy who can contribute in various areas early on, and then step up when Deshea Townsend is gone. A solid DB could also step in immediatly and fill the possible void that could be there if they don't resign Bryant McFadden. McFadden could probably start for atleast 25 other teams in the league, he's going to get some huge offers.

MDSteel15
01-27-2009, 10:49 PM
Mack and Robinson aren't first round value??? For the past couple of months that is all most "experts" have been giving us.... Mack can play gaurd if we want current center to stay thru contract but he is the best option there. But since, I don't know, 5 O-linemen are free agents, maybe we should address that 1st!!!!

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-28-2009, 12:45 AM
None of those players you mentioned have a first round value. Maybe if you go by what Scott Wright or Todd McShay say. I've watched all these guys all season. The Steelers don't reach for players for sake of filling a need.
. For the 2nd time now....I don't go by what McShay says and dont even know who Scott Wright is. Either way, I would trust Todd McShay over what you are posting here. I agree with Texassteel in that you choose to insult people rather than consider other opinions.

I really dont know what you have been watching all season, because you tout Herman Johnson as the top guard in your first mock, now he is suddenly in the 3rd round?? Did he get worse somehow?? I said against Alabama that Johnson didnt look agile enough on his feet for the NFL game. Honestly, Canfield or Robinson look likely to be the first guards off the board.

And if the Steelers dont reach for the sake of filling a need....why do you have them taking Macho Harris CB in your first mock, now taking another CB in Pegues in the second mock?? If they were taking BPA, why do they keep ending up with a CB in your mock?

I commend you at doing the work and putting together a 3 round mock. Just dont get so sensitive about people questioning why a CB and essentially say the Steelers take BPA.....but with 2 different reaches.

BTW, I am a Tony Pauline fan, as he seems to see the similar things that I do. But have played football for 25 years and coached for 14. So I don't just go off the internet for my opinions. I actually record games on my Tivo and break down players of interest play by play.

darnik44
01-28-2009, 07:18 AM
For the 2nd time now....I don't go by what McShay says and dont even know who Scott Wright is. Either way, I would trust Todd McShay over what you are posting here. I agree with Texassteel in that you choose to insult people rather than consider other opinions.

I really dont know what you have been watching all season, because you tout Herman Johnson as the top guard in your first mock, now he is suddenly in the 3rd round?? Did he get worse somehow?? I said against Alabama that Johnson didnt look agile enough on his feet for the NFL game. Honestly, Canfield or Robinson look likely to be the first guards off the board.

And if the Steelers dont reach for the sake of filling a need....why do you have them taking Macho Harris CB in your first mock, now taking another CB in Pegues in the second mock?? If they were taking BPA, why do they keep ending up with a CB in your mock?

I commend you at doing the work and putting together a 3 round mock. Just dont get so sensitive about people questioning why a CB and essentially say the Steelers take BPA.....but with 2 different reaches.

BTW, I am a Tony Pauline fan, as he seems to see the similar things that I do. But have played football for 25 years and coached for 14. So I don't just go off the internet for my opinions. I actually record games on my Tivo and break down players of interest play by play.

Well I'm not trying to insult anyone. If that's how it sounds then I'm sorry.

I'm saying the Steelers will take the BPA (that fits a need). At the end of the first round there are a lot of DB's who will be drafted in the 25-35 range. That's why I have them taking a DB. My last mock Pegues was gone by the 32nd pick, this one he wasn't.

As for your Herman Johnson question. At the Senior Bowl he showed he just plays way to high to be considered a true OG prospect. He showed he's more of a RT with bad feet. That's why he dropped.

Most draft analysts out there are simply going off of what the others guys say. I truely scout these players and rank them with no consideration of where others do. Every year I'm very accurate at projecting the general range where a player will be drafted. My first set of 2009 Draft Rankings came out last February, and I already have my initial 2010 Draft Rankings out.

I too played football for many years (college included) and have 5 years of coaching experience. I've followed the draft closely since 1989.

The last 2 drafts it has been a foregone conclusion by Steelers fans that they absolutely have to draft an offensive linemen in the first round. Well they haven't. I believe it was on this board I was ridiculed for having the Steelers drafting Darrelle Revis. It has since become old news that the Steelers in fact did intend on drafting Revis, but the Jets traded up and took him one pick before the Steelers. I was one of very few who had Revis as my top CB and one of few who had him being drafted in the top 15.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-28-2009, 09:50 AM
Well I'm not trying to insult anyone. If that's how it sounds then I'm sorry.

OK, apology accepted.
The last 2 drafts it has been a foregone conclusion by Steelers fans that they absolutely have to draft an offensive linemen in the first round. Well they haven't. I believe it was on this board I was ridiculed for having the Steelers drafting Darrelle Revis. It has since become old news that the Steelers in fact did intend on drafting Revis, but the Jets traded up and took him one pick before the Steelers. I was one of very few who had Revis as my top CB and one of few who had him being drafted in the top 15.

Sorry, I dont exactly remember it that way. 2 years ago everybody had us taking Timmons or Revis. Most thought Timmons was the prototypical 4-3 OLB that Tomlin would want and others with the Benching of Ike Taylor thought Revis would be a good pick.....I too wanted Revis! There was also a lot of Jarvis Moss talk that year. Even Don Banks at SI had Derrell Revis as a 1st round pick in his mocks, so I dont think the ridicule of you was valid.

Last year, all of the top prospects on O line were taken before we picked and the Steelers went BPA to get some depth and I was OK with that.

I honestly think the Steelers do draft BPA within a category. They took Hampton after Stroud, Seymour were gone....because they needed a d lineman. Similar too were the picks of Heath Miller, Alan Faneca, and Kendall Simmons as all of those players started in their rookie seasons. They traded up for both Polamalu and Holmes because of NEED at that position and I honestly would not be surprised to see them trade up to 20 if Oher is on the board like some think.

I think McFadden is the top priority in FA and will get signed. Asomgua, Ron Bartell, Dunta Robinson, DeAngelo Hall will all be more coveted free agents. Taylor, B-Mac, Gay, Townsend (final season ) and Roy Lewis are a good group and I think we will be fine. But, you never know.

darnik44
01-28-2009, 04:33 PM
Sorry, I dont exactly remember it that way. 2 years ago everybody had us taking Timmons or Revis. Most thought Timmons was the prototypical 4-3 OLB that Tomlin would want and others with the Benching of Ike Taylor thought Revis would be a good pick.....I too wanted Revis! There was also a lot of Jarvis Moss talk that year. Even Don Banks at SI had Derrell Revis as a 1st round pick in his mocks, so I dont think the ridicule of you was valid.

Last year, all of the top prospects on O line were taken before we picked and the Steelers went BPA to get some depth and I was OK with that.

I honestly think the Steelers do draft BPA within a category. They took Hampton after Stroud, Seymour were gone....because they needed a d lineman. Similar too were the picks of Heath Miller, Alan Faneca, and Kendall Simmons as all of those players started in their rookie seasons. They traded up for both Polamalu and Holmes because of NEED at that position and I honestly would not be surprised to see them trade up to 20 if Oher is on the board like some think.

I think McFadden is the top priority in FA and will get signed. Asomgua, Ron Bartell, Dunta Robinson, DeAngelo Hall will all be more coveted free agents. Taylor, B-Mac, Gay, Townsend (final season ) and Roy Lewis are a good group and I think we will be fine. But, you never know.

With the Revis pick I'm talking about this time of the year. Honesty I was the first I saw anywhere with Revis in the first round, then in the top 15, and the first to the Steelers. I also spoke out a lot against picking Timmons because he wasn't suited to play OLB because of his ht.

As far as the picks you mentioned there's one big difference (with the exception of Kendall Simmons) is that those players were all valued at or above where the Steelers picked them. I remember the Heath Miller pick there was a very good chance the Jaguars would take Miller before the Steelers and the Steelers likely were taking Matt Jones. Looking back, Simmons was one of the worst first round picks in the last 10 years. A year they reached out of need.

The Polamalu pick was a simple case of they loved him. They saw the posibilities and were determined to get him.

With the Santonio Holmes pick, he was part of a terribly weak WR class. The Steelers also had a stock pile of picks and very few roster spots even up for grabs. That was the year following the SB win.

This year the OT class is deep. There aren't many solid interior linemen to be had, but there are some promising ones who will be draft in round 2-4. Any DB whose likely an eventual starter will have to be taken inside of the top 40 picks give or take.

steelerdave1969
01-28-2009, 05:10 PM
I have thought all along that I wanted the Steelers to take a Center like Max Unger and that would still be a good pick in my opinion. But I think the Steelers would love the thoughts of trading up about 5 or 6 spots to grab at DT like B.J. Raji from Boston College. Now, do I really think they will do this? No, the Steelers unless someone just blows them away will not trade up and just like last season with the Steelers taking RB Rashard Mendenhall they have shown they most likely will take the best player that will help this team win another super bowl tittle.
Just My 2 Cents Worth Though

darnik44
01-28-2009, 05:28 PM
I have thought all along that I wanted the Steelers to take a Center like Max Unger and that would still be a good pick in my opinion. But I think the Steelers would love the thoughts of trading up about 5 or 6 spots to grab at DT like B.J. Raji from Boston College. Now, do I really think they will do this? No, the Steelers unless someone just blows them away will not trade up and just like last season with the Steelers taking RB Rashard Mendenhall they have shown they most likely will take the best player that will help this team win another super bowl tittle.
Just My 2 Cents Worth Though

Raji looks to be a top 10 pick and maybe even top 5. He's the best NT prospect in years. NT prospects are hard to come by. With QB's, RB's, WR's, and TE's pretty much out of the Steelers equation for the first few rounds, Raji could be the top prospect on their board.

Steelers draft should look something like this. This is how they do it. It's real simple, highest rated player left on the board is the pick.

1. B.J. Raji, DT/NT, Boston College
2. Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
3. Michael Oher, OT/OG, Mississippi
4. Andre Smith, OT/OG, Alabama*
5. Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
6. Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio State
7. Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois*
8. D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt*
9. Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
10. Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama
11. Tyson Jackson, DE/DT, Louisiana State
12. Derek Pegues, FS/CB, Mississippi State
13. Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
14. Louis Delmas, FS/SS, Western Michigan
15. Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah*
16. Fili Moala, DT/DE, Southern California
17. Eben Britton, OT, Arizona*
18. Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon
19. Alex Mack, C/OG, California
20. William Beatty, OT, Connecticut
21. Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
22. Asher Allen, CB, Georgia*
23. Eric Wood, C/OG, Louisville
24. Kyle Moore, DE, Southern California
25. Alex Magee, DT/DE, Purdue
26. William Moore, FS/SS, Missouri
27. Captain Munnerlyn, CB, South Carolina*
28. Fenuki Tupou, OT/OG, Oregon
29. Jarron Gilbert, DT/DE, San Jose State
30. Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
31. Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut
32. Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati
33. Kevin Ellison, SS/FS, Southern California
34. Herman Johnson, OG/OT, Louisiana State
35. Otis Wiley, SS, Michigan State
36. Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati
37. Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane
38. Xavier Fulton, OT/OG, Illinois
39. Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State
40. Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State
41. Antoine Caldwell, C/OG, Alabama
42. Emanuel Cook, SS, South Carolina
43. Jairus Byrd, CB, Oregon*
44. Terrence Taylor, DT/NT, Michigan
45. Max Unger, C/OG, Oregon
46. Phil Loadholt, OT/OG, Oklahoma
47. Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina
48. Courtney Greene, S, Rutgers
49. Lydell Sargeant, CB, Penn State
50. Cornelius Lewis, OT, Tennessee State

Note, at some point the other positions with less priority would start to be worked in. Certain positions could drop or be removed based on the picks in the prior rounds. Example, if they take a CB in the first the remaining CB's would probably drop on their board. Explanation on Raji being #1. It's been a while since there has been an all-pro caliber NT prospect in the draft. The Steelers know the importance of the position and the lack of quality NT's out there. Casey Hampton still has some time left, but now is the time to start looking for some depth and the future NT.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-28-2009, 11:55 PM
I like many of your rankings, but I dont agree with a lot of those rankings. I dont know how Macho Harris would be #13 on their list. He plays good press man coverage, but doesnt have the long speed, nor play off man well....which the Steelers play a lot of. He fits with the Raiders press man schemes, but wont have the 40 times that Al Davis likes.

Herman Johnson is probably not even on the list and definately not ahead of Jamon Meridith, Trevor Cantwell, Mack, Wood, Unger, Urbik. Meridith is possibly a better guard than OT and a strong, smart guy.....Johnson is a fat slob that cant move.

Trevor Canfield might be the best OG in the draft and Andy Levitre I believe is overhyped by Mayock. He played LT all season and struggled in Mobile at guard. I wont even get into Troy Kropog who should go in the 5th round or later.

Patrick Chung is way to high on the board.......if that is what you honestly think the depth chart is, then Chung could be our #1 pick. Not gonna happen. You seem to have a lot of DB's on the list.......any special reason??

MDSteel15
01-29-2009, 01:57 PM
I like many of your rankings, but I dont agree with a lot of those rankings. I dont know how Macho Harris would be #13 on their list. He plays good press man coverage, but doesnt have the long speed, nor play off man well....which the Steelers play a lot of. He fits with the Raiders press man schemes, but wont have the 40 times that Al Davis likes.

Herman Johnson is probably not even on the list and definately not ahead of Jamon Meridith, Trevor Cantwell, Mack, Wood, Unger, Urbik. Meridith is possibly a better guard than OT and a strong, smart guy.....Johnson is a fat slob that cant move. :thumbsup:

Trevor Canfield might be the best OG in the draft and Andy Levitre I believe is overhyped by Mayock. He played LT all season and struggled in Mobile at guard. I wont even get into Troy Kropog who should go in the 5th round or later.

Patrick Chung is way to high on the board.......if that is what you honestly think the depth chart is, then Chung could be our #1 pick. Not gonna happen. You seem to have a lot of DB's on the list.......any special reason??

Exactly what I was ready to type....

St33lersguy
02-16-2009, 08:16 PM
I will be ashamed of the Steelers if they pass up 1st round OL for a 2nd round safety. Also I think logic states that Andre Smith will be be selected before such guys like Knowshawn Moreno, Everette Brown and Leshawn McCoy although I would like to see all the skill guys going off the board like flies and 1st round caliber OL remaining on the board. If Andre slipped to the 20s I would hope the Steelers would try to trade up.

MasterOfPuppets
02-17-2009, 08:09 PM
Josh McDaniels? Defensive minded? :screwy::doh: i don't what the hell i was thinkin....maybe ryan...lol...none the less, there cleanin house on the defensive side, so my point stands.:popcorn: