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steel-EERS
02-02-2009, 06:07 PM
Duke Robinson, Alex Mack(start a guard for a year or two and move to center later) the huge(6-7, 355) guy from Lsu and so on. It looks like we can get a starter there at 32 with relative ease.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Just say no to Herman Johnson from LSU......terrible.

If we cant find a LT at pick #32, I agree that Alex Mack, Eric Wood or Duke Robinson would be worthy picks. Any of them is an upgrade from Kemo or Stapleton.

MasterOfPuppets
02-02-2009, 07:06 PM
Just say no to Herman Johnson from LSU......terrible.

If we cant find a LT at pick #32, I agree that Alex Mack, Eric Wood or Duke Robinson would be worthy picks. Any of them is an upgrade from Kemo or Stapleton.
after watching a few more goal line failures yesterday, i'm starting to think interior linemen may be the bigger need. the steelers have got to be leading the league in negative yardage rushing attempts. i haven't heard parker sticking up for the oline the way ben does....:popcorn:

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-02-2009, 10:12 PM
after watching a few more goal line failures yesterday, i'm starting to think interior linemen may be the bigger need. the steelers have got to be leading the league in negative yardage rushing attempts. i haven't heard parker sticking up for the oline the way ben does....:popcorn:

I think its a combination of not knowing who to block and lack of strength on the part of Stapleton and Spaeth in those situations. Defenders should not be squeezing thru the gaps and I think Zeriline isnt the best coach we can have.

Steelcitygal87
02-03-2009, 09:43 AM
Just say no to Herman Johnson from LSU......terrible.

If we cant find a LT at pick #32, I agree that Alex Mack, Eric Wood or Duke Robinson would be worthy picks. Any of them is an upgrade from Kemo or Stapleton.

What do you think of Kraig Urbik from Wisconsin? He's strong, powerful and very physical, but best of all..he is an excellent run blocker.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-03-2009, 09:54 AM
after watching a few more goal line failures yesterday, i'm starting to think interior linemen may be the bigger need. the steelers have got to be leading the league in negative yardage rushing attempts. i haven't heard parker sticking up for the oline the way ben does....:popcorn:

Thats why I would go with Mack...move him to LG..Colon to RG...and keep Hartwig in the middle.

Hartwig has shown he is capable.... Colon wouldnt have to worry about speed rushers getting around his outside shoulder and he is strong enough to take on the DT's....and if Mack can take on Raji, he has enough anchor to be part of one heck of a trio in the middle.

What we due at RT is the pivotal question at that point.....cross your fingers and hope that Hills is ready to show why he was considered a first round prospect before he hurt his leg....and sign Jordan Gross.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2009, 11:02 AM
What do you think of Kraig Urbik from Wisconsin? He's strong, powerful and very physical, but best of all..he is an excellent run blocker.

I like Urbik. When I saw him play in reg season I thought he was a big strong mauler with a nasty streak....but he didnt look to have quick feet to pull and trap. After watching him in the Senior Bowl week of practice he showed good agility.

I honestly think Urbik is behind Mack, Robinson, Wood, Cantwell and Tyronne Green. I can see Urbik probably going in the 3rd round, but could move up if there is a run on guards.

I know Mike Mayock is high on Andy Levitre, but he played LT at Oregon st and will need to move to guard in the NFL. He looked average as a LT and struggled at guard the week in Mobile.....too risky for me. Herman Johnson is a terrible athlete, too slow to play RT and doesnt get any bend at the waist to get low a a guard. Haloti Ngata, Trevor Pryce, Domata Peko, Corey Williams, Shaun Rogers would all dominate him.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2009, 11:04 AM
Thats why I would go with Mack...move him to LG..Colon to RG...and keep Hartwig in the middle.

Hartwig has shown he is capable.... Colon wouldnt have to worry about speed rushers getting around his outside shoulder and he is strong enough to take on the DT's....and if Mack can take on Raji, he has enough anchor to be part of one heck of a trio in the middle.

What we due at RT is the pivotal question at that point.....cross your fingers and hope that Hills is ready to show why he was considered a first round prospect before he hurt his leg....and sign Jordan Gross.

LLT, if Mack is gone and our LT prospects are gone.....I would take Wood at #32 !!! Mack stuffed Raji and Brace in practice in Mobile, Al....but Wood owned Raji in the game. Mack is more athletic and still my pick over Wood.....but I like Wood as a very close 2nd!!!

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-03-2009, 12:00 PM
LLT, if Mack is gone and our LT prospects are gone.....I would take Wood at #32 !!! Mack stuffed Raji and Brace in practice in Mobile, Al....but Wood owned Raji in the game. Mack is more athletic and still my pick over Wood.....but I like Wood as a very close 2nd!!!

I had Wood as my #2 center for awhile now....the only thing I was concerened abourt was the level of competition...but he seems like the real deal.

I know some like Luigs and Unger...but I think that they will both end up in a zone blocking scheme.

I am watching the Bills to see what they do in regards to Center.

Do you think Woods would be there at #64?

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2009, 12:49 PM
Do you think Woods would be there at #64?
I dont think Eric Wood will be around at pick #64. He showed in games and the Senior Bowl against BJ Raji that he is a solid as an oak tree. He even played guard and while not impressively agile....he managed to pull effectively 2-3 times and find the blocker in space to spring the North RB for a good gain.

IMO, Wood can also play guard for a year and make the transition to C once he is comfortable making the line calls. They are comparing Raji to Cortez Kennedy and on the 2nd TD of the game Raji came at Wood hard and Wood stood his ground, then steered Raji to the right and out of the hole for the TD.

I say Wood goes in the bottom of the 1st or top of the 2nd round.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-03-2009, 01:22 PM
I dont think Eric Wood will be around at pick #64. He showed in games and the Senior Bowl against BJ Raji that he is a solid as an oak tree. He even played guard and while not impressively agile....he managed to pull effectively 2-3 times and find the blocker in space to spring the North RB for a good gain.

IMO, Wood can also play guard for a year and make the transition to C once he is comfortable making the line calls. They are comparing Raji to Cortez Kennedy and on the 2nd TD of the game Raji came at Wood hard and Wood stood his ground, then steered Raji to the right and out of the hole for the TD.

I say Wood goes in the bottom of the 1st or top of the 2nd round.

I see Mack going first...and some of the zone blcoking teams becoming enamored with Luigs, Unger and Caldwell....hopefully dropping Woods to the latter part of the 2nd....(fingers crossed)

Texasteel
02-03-2009, 01:23 PM
LLT, You got me looking at Wood in the 1st place, and I just love the way the guy plays the game.

If we can't get a OT that can play LT in a year or 2 (Britton), and Mack is gone. I would not mind pulling the trigger on Wood at #32.

I thing that a good OT that can play RT can be had with our 2nd pick. Then let him fight it out with Hill.

A line of FA / Colon / Hartwig / Mack, Wood / Hill or draft pick, would be an upgrade to the line we have now.

I agree with MOP, the interior of our line has looked very weak.

I'm not counting out Robinson either, its just that Mack and Wood can shift to center when Hartwig leaves.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-03-2009, 01:57 PM
LLT, You got me looking at Wood in the 1st place, and I just love the way the guy plays the game.

If we can't get a OT that can play LT in a year or 2 (Britton), and Mack is gone. I would not mind pulling the trigger on Wood at #32.

I thing that a good OT that can play RT can be had with our 2nd pick. Then let him fight it out with Hill.

A line of FA / Colon / Hartwig / Mack, Wood / Hill or draft pick, would be an upgrade to the line we have now.

I agree with MOP, the interior of our line has looked very weak.

I'm not counting out Robinson either, its just that Mack and Wood can shift to center when Hartwig leaves.

Stapleton was beat like he stole something....I think that Wood may be available later but if his combine numbers dictate that he will go early..and if Mack is gone...I have no problem with him at #32. (I think that is two players...Wood/Gilbert...that we have discussed that are shooting up the draft boards.)

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2009, 02:27 PM
Stapleton was beat like he stole something

That is so true. He is a good utility guy and has been valuable this season, but I think anybody like Vasquez, Cantwell, Urbik, Feinga would all be better than Stapleton.

I would love to see us move up and make a move in the 1st on a LT like Britton, Beatty or even Oher(I think will slip to 15-20 spot). Then

2nd -Jarron Gilbert
3rd- Vasquez or Feinga OG
3b- Keenan Lewis CB
4-Quan Cosby WR
5-Jasper Brinkley LB
6- Conredge Collins FB
7- Gerald Cadogin OT

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-03-2009, 03:00 PM
That is so true. He is a good utility guy and has been valuable this season, but I think anybody like Vasquez, Cantwell, Urbik, Feinga would all be better than Stapleton.

I would love to see us move up and make a move in the 1st on a LT like Britton, Beatty or even Oher(I think will slip to 15-20 spot). Then

2nd -Jarron Gilbert
3rd- Vasquez or Feinga OG
3b- Keenan Lewis CB
4-Quan Cosby WR
5-Jasper Brinkley LB
6- Conredge Collins FB
7- Gerald Cadogin OT


I would be pleased to see us move up and grab Britton....(Love the Brinkley pick by the way, I read somewhere that he runs like a 4.65 at about 260lbs!!!)

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2009, 03:16 PM
I would be pleased to see us move up and grab Britton....(Love the Brinkley pick by the way, I read somewhere that he runs like a 4.65 at about 260lbs!!!)

Yeah, might actually have to take Brinkley a round earlier and Cosby later. Cadogin is a bit of a question mark too. I think he can go anywhere from 6th to UFA because he doesnt have the upside to play LT and looks like just a solid RT. I like him and think he can be an asset.

I think this is similar to the year they moved up to get Santonio Holmes. Had nothing but Ward, Wilson, Washington as WR's until they got Santo. This season, the O line will be thin and I think they will need to move up to get somebody that can play LT.

Texasteel
02-03-2009, 06:22 PM
Any idea what we would have to give up to move up and grab Britton, say lower 20s.

MasterOfPuppets
02-03-2009, 08:28 PM
Any idea what we would have to give up to move up and grab Britton, say lower 20s.
with detroit at 20, and philly at 21..... both of which should be looking for a tackle at those spots.....i'd say you'd have to move into the teens......i seriously doubt they'd view brittion or beatty worth such a trade.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Any idea what we would have to give up to move up and grab Britton, say lower 20s.

We traded a 1st and 3rd to move up and get Holmes at #25 when we badly needed a WR. I think that may have to happen, or even trade up to 20 with the Lions. Jags are gonna draft an OT too, with Khalif Barnes leaving.

Might be another run on OT's and Beatty could move up into the 1st like Duane Brown did last year. Jamon Meridith is the only wildcard that might be able to play LT and get drafted into the 2nd or 3rd, but he played guard in a spread this season so tough to tell if he can play OT in the NFL.

Texasteel
02-04-2009, 06:31 AM
Meridith is an interesting name I kinda have him figured as a zone blocker in the Pros, I guess because of him size and speed, but I have been reading some pretty good reports on him since the season ended.

However, it's starting to look like we may have to try to sign or resign our LT, and work to strengthen the interior. I hope we don't loose a good DE trying to do it.

Vincent
02-04-2009, 02:43 PM
What do you think of Kraig Urbik from Wisconsin? He's strong, powerful and very physical, but best of all..he is an excellent run blocker.

Reminiscent of the Heath Benedict I was hoping would fall to us last year, but alas didn't fall to anybody. Yeah, if hes there in the 2nd or 3rd, grab him. Looks like a Steeler.

http://media.scout.com/media/image/49/495547.jpg

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-04-2009, 04:23 PM
I hope we don't loose a good DE trying to do it. That is why I would like to see the Steelers consider going after Chris Canty as a DE prospect.

Make more cap room by restructuring Hines Wards contract and trading away Foote's contract. Then look to offer McFadden, Smith, Fox and Essex deals(letting Nate, Kemo, Starks, Roye, Leftwich, Frazier walk). Try and get Canty for DE depth. Draft a OT, NT, OG-C with the first 3 picks and we suddenly have a younger group on both lines and a secure secondary with Taylor, McFadden, Townsend, Gay, Lewis etc.

St33lersguy
03-10-2009, 09:20 PM
Looks like the Steelers can get value @ the interior line. Good thing about this year as opposed to last year is that a combo of the steelers getting a later pick plus a stronger interior class means the Steelers can get better value for OL & don't have to draft out of need.