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Stlrs4Life
01-02-2006, 08:04 PM
Bengals | C. Johnson told to keep quiet
Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:40:43 -0800
Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson said he was told by a "higher authority" not to talk to the media. "Thanks to a higher authority (Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis), I can not open my mouth. All week," Johnson said. Lewis' message to Johnson was "just play."

CantStop85
01-02-2006, 08:18 PM
No chad talk? The week just won't be the same.

clevestinks
01-02-2006, 08:21 PM
I wish he would talk, talk , talk, just no walk.

Sharkissle29
01-02-2006, 08:23 PM
I wish he would talk, talk , talk, just no walk.

seems to happen everytime we play them :grin:

about time marvin controlled his players. keep chad on a leash like he should be.

Livinginthe past
01-02-2006, 08:31 PM
I like Chad - he seems like a nice guy if a little over-confident.

But like I said before - im glad he isnt on my team - that smack talk he gets into may be funny stuff - but it doesnt EVER help his own team.

It just gives the opposition another reason to stay focussed to try and grind the the Bengals into the ground.

NM

Suitanim
01-02-2006, 10:31 PM
I hate Chad...everything that's wrong with the modern game can be quickly summed up with him. A talented attention *****, possibly overachieving with a superior QB and superior supporting cast.

tony hipchest
01-02-2006, 10:36 PM
how will he do without backing up his week long diatribe of smack as motivation?

RoethlisBURGHer
01-03-2006, 04:22 PM
Awww no CJ Talk!That sucks,I am always amused by him.He doen't mean to offend anyone,he's just having fun.It makes the game more fun,at least I think so.

Oh well,here's to shutting downa shut-uped CJ!

clevestinks
01-03-2006, 07:44 PM
CJ smack is all god , he is comical. Too bad we shut him up til summer after this week

Atlanta Dan
01-03-2006, 08:25 PM
Putting the muzzle on Chad is a good sign, not because it keeps Chad quiet (I actually enjoy his stuff - emptying the Santa bag was great) but because it throws the Bengals off their regular routine, which also was the case when Marvin Lewis went into media shutdown mode before the Steelers whacked Cincy in October.

Glad to see their coaching staff driving home to the Bengals that the playoffs are different -anything to increase jitters is fine with me.

CantStop85
01-03-2006, 09:57 PM
CJ smack is all god , he is comical. Too bad we shut him up til summer after this week
So god's the one making CJ do it, huh? The big man has a good sense of humor. :grin:

Yes, I know you meant good. lol

VegasStlrFan
01-03-2006, 10:38 PM
Good!! He should let his play do his talking. I don't know which is worse a punk like Johnson running his mouth or all the publicity these punks get. Chad, T.O., Randy Moss, and Keshawn should take the smack talkin to the NBA.

Atlanta Dan
01-04-2006, 01:47 PM
Maybe Marvin Lewis did not want to hear any more bulletin board material from Chad such as the following:

"It's time for a change. It's like going from a black and white TV to a color TV. It was Pittsburgh; it's Cincinnati now and it'll probably be that way for awhile now." - Chad Johnson, Dec. 4, 2005.

If the Steelers win Hines Ward and Jerome Bettis should present to Chad Johnson a black & white TV at the end of the game.

tony hipchest
01-04-2006, 02:23 PM
.

If the Steelers win Hines Ward and Jerome Bettis should present to Chad Johnson a black & white TV at the end of the game.
:rofl: :rofl:

Suitanim
01-04-2006, 06:26 PM
Chad had a nice year, but against the Steelers he had 9 catches for 148 and no TD's, and he got 1/3rd of those yards on one play in garbage time at the end of the first game, so, really, when you think about it, what could the punk even have to say other than "I play mediocre football against Pittsburgh"?

CantStop85
01-05-2006, 06:46 PM
Chad had a nice year, but against the Steelers he had 9 catches for 148 and no TD's, and he got 1/3rd of those yards on one play in garbage time at the end of the first game, so, really, when you think about it, what could the punk even have to say other than "I play mediocre football against Pittsburgh"?
Maybe something along the lines of "I've played two horrible games against Pittsburgh, averaging 74 yards and 4.5 catches...that's almost as bad as Hines Ward's season averages. I can't keep playing like a mediocre receiver." :grin:

BB2W
01-05-2006, 06:51 PM
I posted this in the wrong thread. :redface:

True to his word from earlier this week, star wide receiver Chad Johnson managed to maintain his vow of silence throughout the day. Although pulled and pressed by any number of local and national media who made way to his locker, Johnson kept his lips zipped, occasionally parting them to ingest a bit of his lunch.

"He's OK. You guys have probably just worn him out," fellow Bengals wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh said.

This season, when Johnson planned on revealing a list of his plans for a game vs. Baltimore, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis replaced it with another list, one asking if Johnson had done all he could to help his team win. Johnson said Monday his silence was at the insistence of Lewis; however, during his Wednesday news conference, Lewis said that was not the case.

"Wow, after 17 weeks he's not talking?" Lewis facetiously asked. "Man, we've got to get into the playoffs every year. He wants to focus on the game, that's a very good decision by Chad Johnson. But you shouldn't put Marvin Lewis into that; he came in and said this was something that he wanted to do and he asked if he could throw me under the bus as the reason why. I said, 'Go ahead, throw"


link-----> http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3372314

Suitanim
01-06-2006, 10:13 AM
Maybe something along the lines of "I've played two horrible games against Pittsburgh, averaging 74 yards and 4.5 catches...that's almost as bad as Hines Ward's season averages. I can't keep playing like a mediocre receiver." :grin:

Awww...don't be hatin' on Wards 68/935 13.8 avg and 11 TD's, especially since if Ward played on the Bengals (who threw the ball 179 more times than the Steelers) his numbers would have looked like this (Based on his % of the offense):

102 catches for 1407 yards and 16 TD's

While Chad's number were:
97 catches for 1432 and 9 TD's

Of course, had Chad had to play the Steelers every week, he's have ended up with a respectable 72 catches for a respectable 1184, but he'd have had no TD's, and therefore no jackassery would have ensued.

Too bad he couldn't play against the Steelers every week.

CantStop85
01-06-2006, 11:36 PM
Awww...don't be hatin' on Wards 68/935 13.8 avg and 11 TD's, especially since if Ward played on the Bengals (who threw the ball 179 more times than the Steelers) his numbers would have looked like this (Based on his % of the offense):

102 catches for 1407 yards and 16 TD's

While Chad's number were:
97 catches for 1432 and 9 TD's

Of course, had Chad had to play the Steelers every week, he's have ended up with a respectable 72 catches for a respectable 1184, but he'd have had no TD's, and therefore no jackassery would have ensued.

Too bad he couldn't play against the Steelers every week.
If only math equaled reality, eh?

It's ok man, Hines is good, Chad's just better. You still have the better defense. :smile:

Suitanim
01-07-2006, 12:28 AM
If only math equaled reality, eh?

It's ok man, Hines is good, Chad's just better. You still have the better defense. :smile:

Math is hard, huh? Chad may end up being better in yards and catches and such (but he also may not), but he needs to shut his mouth and play some football instead of talking a bunch of empty shit. He has a chance Sunday...let's see what he can do...As for me, I take the hardworking guy who does it all over the loudmouthed punk who talks, and talks, and talks, and talks...

CantStop85
01-07-2006, 12:35 AM
Math is hard, huh? Chad may end up being better in yards and catches and such (but he also may not), but he needs to shut his mouth and play some football instead of talking a bunch of empty shit. He has a chance Sunday...let's see what he can do...As for me, I take the hardworking guy who does it all over the loudmouthed punk who talks, and talks, and talks, and talks...
OK, and I'll take the hardworking, loudmouthed guy who does what he does exceptionally well (catch the ball and run :smile:).

Suitanim
01-07-2006, 12:43 AM
OK, and I'll take the hardworking, loudmouthed guy who does what he does exceptionally well (catch the ball and run :smile:).

If only he could score a TD against the Steelers...?

Well, I predict he finally will this weekend. And he'll make a big deal and have some stupid celebration that he SHOULD be flagged for and won't...but his team will lose in the playoff game. Since he doesn't know any better, do you think maybe he'll learn some humility and respect for the TEAM game he plays after that?

NAH! He had a big celebration and pulled balls out of a bag against the Bills, and the Bungals lost...he doesn't care what team he works for, just keep the camera on CJ...he's a ...

Punk. Ass. *****.

bengalsfan21
01-07-2006, 01:20 AM
If only he could score a TD against the Steelers...?

Well, I predict he finally will this weekend. And he'll make a big deal and have some stupid celebration that he SHOULD be flagged for and won't...but his team will lose in the playoff game. Since he doesn't know any better, do you think maybe he'll learn some humility and respect for the TEAM game he plays after that?

NAH! He had a big celebration and pulled balls out of a bag against the Bills, and the Bungals lost...he doesn't care what team he works for, just keep the camera on CJ...he's a ...

Punk. Ass. *****.

And you would get a hard on if he was a Steeler

augustashark
01-07-2006, 01:40 AM
Below are the career stats of both wr's, you tell me who's better?!

You Bengal fans crack me up!!!!!! :toofunny:


Take their 3 best yr's chad has 90,95 and 97 rec's and Hines has 94,112 and 95 rec's!!!!!!

Career Stats Receiving
Season Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
2001-02 Cincinnati 12 28 329 27.4 11.8 28 2.6 22 1
2002-03 Cincinnati 16 69 1166 72.9 16.9 72 3.2 58 5
2003-04 Cincinnati 16 90 1355 84.7 15.1 82 4.1 66 10
2004-05 Cincinnati 16 95 1274 79.6 13.4 53 3.0 63 9
2005-06 Cincinnati 16 97 1432 89.5 14.8 70 3.5 74 9
Career 76 379 5556 73.1 14.7 82 3.4 283 34

HINES WARD'S
Career Stats Receiving
Season Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
1998-99 Pittsburgh 16 15 246 15.4 16.4 45 6.7 12 0
1999-00 Pittsburgh 16 61 638 39.9 10.5 42 2.9 31 7
2000-01 Pittsburgh 16 48 672 42.0 14.0 77 4.5 31 4
2001-02 Pittsburgh 16 94 1003 62.7 10.7 34 3.9 52 4
2002-03 Pittsburgh 16 112 1329 83.1 11.9 72 4.5 66 12
2003-04 Pittsburgh 16 95 1163 72.7 12.2 50 3.9 60 10
2004-05 Pittsburgh 16 80 1004 62.8 12.6 58 5.0 52 4
2005-06 Pittsburgh 15 69 975 65.0 14.1 85 4.7 53 11
Career 127 574 7030 55.4 12.2 85 4.3 357 52

CantStop85
01-07-2006, 02:10 AM
Below are the career stats of both wr's, you tell me who's better?!

You Bengal fans crack me up!!!!!! :toofunny:


Take their 3 best yr's chad has 90,95 and 97 rec's and Hines has 94,112 and 95 rec's!!!!!!

Career Stats Receiving
Season Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
2001-02 Cincinnati 12 28 329 27.4 11.8 28 2.6 22 1
2002-03 Cincinnati 16 69 1166 72.9 16.9 72 3.2 58 5
2003-04 Cincinnati 16 90 1355 84.7 15.1 82 4.1 66 10
2004-05 Cincinnati 16 95 1274 79.6 13.4 53 3.0 63 9
2005-06 Cincinnati 16 97 1432 89.5 14.8 70 3.5 74 9
Career 76 379 5556 73.1 14.7 82 3.4 283 34

HINES WARD'S
Career Stats Receiving
Season Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
1998-99 Pittsburgh 16 15 246 15.4 16.4 45 6.7 12 0
1999-00 Pittsburgh 16 61 638 39.9 10.5 42 2.9 31 7
2000-01 Pittsburgh 16 48 672 42.0 14.0 77 4.5 31 4
2001-02 Pittsburgh 16 94 1003 62.7 10.7 34 3.9 52 4
2002-03 Pittsburgh 16 112 1329 83.1 11.9 72 4.5 66 12
2003-04 Pittsburgh 16 95 1163 72.7 12.2 50 3.9 60 10
2004-05 Pittsburgh 16 80 1004 62.8 12.6 58 5.0 52 4
2005-06 Pittsburgh 15 69 975 65.0 14.1 85 4.7 53 11
Career 127 574 7030 55.4 12.2 85 4.3 357 52
Please shoot yourself...now...

Yeah, interesting point about the receptions...now look at the yardage...1432 yards for Chad this season...Hines couldn't even do that when he had 112 receptions.

Now take this into consideration: Hines has played 8 seasons, Chad has played 5. To make it fair, look at each receivers' first 5 years...now who's the better receiver? Chad has been more consistent throughout his career. The only edge Hines has is that 112 reception season and the 12 and 11 td seasons...big deal...give Chad three more years and we'll see how they stack up then. :rolleyes:

It took Hines 4 years before he even broke 1,000 yards receiving...it took Chad only 2.

If you're going to attempt to make a successful argument for Hines Ward, do it on blocking or something, because Chad blatantly holds the edge in the stats department.

augustashark
01-07-2006, 02:21 AM
Please shoot yourself...now...

Yeah, interesting point about the receptions...now look at the yardage...1432 yards for Chad this season...Hines couldn't even do that when he had 112 receptions.

Now take this into consideration: Hines has played 8 seasons, Chad has played 5. To make it fair, look at each receivers' first 5 years...now who's the better receiver? Chad has been more consistent throughout his career. The only edge Hines has is that 112 reception season and the 12 and 11 td seasons...big deal...give Chad three more years and we'll see how they stack up then. :rolleyes:

It took Hines 4 years before he even broke 1,000 yards receiving...it took Chad only 2.

If you're going to attempt to make a successful argument for Hines Ward, do it on blocking or something, because Chad blatantly holds the edge in the stats department.


Dude, are you kidding! Hines did this on a mostly running team! If the Steelers style was to throw the ball as much as Cincy than these numbers would be higher. How much higher is up to speculation but any football fan worth salt would see this. The line you use "12 and 11 td seasons....big deal...." How in the world can you say this! Putting points on the board is what this game is all about! You Bengal fans have to come to grip with how good Hines really is. Wake up and smell the :coffee:

Suitanim
01-07-2006, 04:56 PM
No, I DO NOT WANT CHAD JOHNSON ON ANY FOOTBALL TEAM OF MINE! I've said this over and over again. I didn't care for Plex, and he's only half the punk that Chad is.

As for comparing stats, that's nice. Provided that Hines played on a teammthat threw the ball 33% more than the Steelers do, his stats would trend up quite a bit. The bottom line? Keep CJ, but try to keep a muzzle all that trash talk garbage...

Sharkissle29
01-07-2006, 07:55 PM
Please shoot yourself...now...

Yeah, interesting point about the receptions...now look at the yardage...1432 yards for Chad this season...Hines couldn't even do that when he had 112 receptions.

Now take this into consideration: Hines has played 8 seasons, Chad has played 5. To make it fair, look at each receivers' first 5 years...now who's the better receiver? Chad has been more consistent throughout his career. The only edge Hines has is that 112 reception season and the 12 and 11 td seasons...big deal...give Chad three more years and we'll see how they stack up then. :rolleyes:

It took Hines 4 years before he even broke 1,000 yards receiving...it took Chad only 2.

If you're going to attempt to make a successful argument for Hines Ward, do it on blocking or something, because Chad blatantly holds the edge in the stats department.
compare how man times u guys pass vs. how many times we pass a game.

you'll see a big difference there big guy. put hines on the bengals and he would be breaking NFL records

clevestinks
01-07-2006, 08:08 PM
when comparing Hines Ward and CJ, don`t forget the intangibles.

blocking, yac, toughness, team player etc. CJ could learn a thing or two from Hines.

I didn`t say C.J. isn`t great, just not in the total , Hines Ward , package league .

Suitanim
01-08-2006, 08:59 AM
Speaking of package deals, I wonder how much quicker Ward would have developed at the NFL level if he would have received more WR reps in college, and not been so busy also playing QB and RB?

tony hipchest
01-08-2006, 11:45 AM
speaking of stats, isnt chad johnson also amongst the league leaders in ex-girlfriends/hoes slapped? not only can he catch and run hes got a mean backhand.

Brady12
01-08-2006, 11:50 AM
Below are the career stats of both wr's, you tell me who's better?!

You Bengal fans crack me up!!!!!! :toofunny:


Take their 3 best yr's chad has 90,95 and 97 rec's and Hines has 94,112 and 95 rec's!!!!!!

Career Stats Receiving
Season Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
2001-02 Cincinnati 12 28 329 27.4 11.8 28 2.6 22 1
2002-03 Cincinnati 16 69 1166 72.9 16.9 72 3.2 58 5
2003-04 Cincinnati 16 90 1355 84.7 15.1 82 4.1 66 10
2004-05 Cincinnati 16 95 1274 79.6 13.4 53 3.0 63 9
2005-06 Cincinnati 16 97 1432 89.5 14.8 70 3.5 74 9
Career 76 379 5556 73.1 14.7 82 3.4 283 34

HINES WARD'S
Career Stats Receiving
Season Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
1998-99 Pittsburgh 16 15 246 15.4 16.4 45 6.7 12 0
1999-00 Pittsburgh 16 61 638 39.9 10.5 42 2.9 31 7
2000-01 Pittsburgh 16 48 672 42.0 14.0 77 4.5 31 4
2001-02 Pittsburgh 16 94 1003 62.7 10.7 34 3.9 52 4
2002-03 Pittsburgh 16 112 1329 83.1 11.9 72 4.5 66 12
2003-04 Pittsburgh 16 95 1163 72.7 12.2 50 3.9 60 10
2004-05 Pittsburgh 16 80 1004 62.8 12.6 58 5.0 52 4
2005-06 Pittsburgh 15 69 975 65.0 14.1 85 4.7 53 11
Career 127 574 7030 55.4 12.2 85 4.3 357 52

What you are trying to do is compare how often they get thrown the ball. (Referring to your post on 3 best seasons using catches) I will admit that Hines Ward is a clutch player, and he is usually reliable for a catch, but at this time, I cannot say he is better than Chad Johnson. I can't say CJ is better than Hines either. Also, going on to someone's post, forget who, I agree that blocking and yac and all that is a part of a good reciever. Speaking of blocking, isn't your old friend Plaxico one of the better blocking WR's, or so I heard?

BlitzburghRockCity
01-08-2006, 11:50 AM
Please shoot yourself...now...

Yeah, interesting point about the receptions...now look at the yardage...1432 yards for Chad this season...Hines couldn't even do that when he had 112 receptions.

Now take this into consideration: Hines has played 8 seasons, Chad has played 5. To make it fair, look at each receivers' first 5 years...now who's the better receiver? Chad has been more consistent throughout his career. The only edge Hines has is that 112 reception season and the 12 and 11 td seasons...big deal...give Chad three more years and we'll see how they stack up then. :rolleyes:

It took Hines 4 years before he even broke 1,000 yards receiving...it took Chad only 2.

If you're going to attempt to make a successful argument for Hines Ward, do it on blocking or something, because Chad blatantly holds the edge in the stats department.

Just to defend hines on this, remember he wasnt a top draft pick and he didnt start at WR for a few years.. he played mainly on special teams and mainly as a runner.. so all those stats are tainted anyways.

Plain and simple though, please tell me you know Hines the overall better WR than Chad. Yes chad can make some more acrobatic catches and is alittle faster, BUT there is no tougher, team oriented, do it all WR than Hines. :tt:

Prosdo
01-08-2006, 11:52 AM
The two players are very different. Hines is probably the best all around receiver and can keep the chains going. Chad is more of a deep threat guy or big play guy.

*Edit* you beat me to it Matt lol

Brady12
01-08-2006, 11:55 AM
compare how man times u guys pass vs. how many times we pass a game.

you'll see a big difference there big guy. put hines on the bengals and he would be breaking NFL records


You my friend are correct. On average this season, Cincinnati had 33 passing attempts, Pittsburgh had 23. Pittsburgh led the league in Rushing attempts per game with 34, while Cincinnati had 28.


EDIT: I hate how they change the Regular Season stats, and put the playoff stats in place.. When you click on stats, it looks like Trent Green threw the most yards i nthe league, instead of Tom Brady. On NFL.com this is.