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NEPAsteeler
02-06-2009, 06:13 PM
I was just watching NFL Total Access on the NFL Network and they were saying that Santonio's game winning catch was the greatest in NFL history. I was just curious as to everyone's opinion on this.

stillers4me
02-06-2009, 06:16 PM
I'm still taking heat here in Cinci and arguing with them that yes, both of his feet were actually down. Losers. :mad:

NEPAsteeler
02-06-2009, 06:20 PM
When I saw the first replay, I thought his one foot was on top of the other thus not being on the ground but then I looked closer at the other replays and saw that it was down.

As far as it being the greatest game winning catch, it's definitely up there, IMO.

tony hipchest
02-06-2009, 06:23 PM
it wasnt just some talking head who made the remark. it was steve sabol who has seen, recorded, and documented every single catch since nfl films was born.

he placed it above the "immaculate reception" which may upset steelerfans but it didnt lead to a superbowl and was more of a fluke miracle as opposed to a great designed play.

he rated it above montana/clarks "the catch" which won a champ game and led to a sb victory but honestly joes scramble was nothing special and he overthrew the ball. clark was pretty much wide open and made a terrific leap.

as he said, santonios catch "had everything".

HometownGal
02-06-2009, 06:23 PM
Of course I am a tad biased here, but having watched every Super Bowl since 1967, I think Santo's phenomenal grab ranks right up there with the best in the big game's history. :thumbsup::hatsoff:

steelreserve
02-06-2009, 06:49 PM
I think I agree with him.

MAYBE "The Catch" is tied with this -- if you look at them both, Montana didn't make as great of a throw, but it was also all the more improbable because he was falling sideways and backwards about a tenth of a second from getting his shit ruined, and there was a guy in his face messing up his view. He said afterward that he couldn't even see Clark in the end zone when he threw it.

Ben, on the other hand, had time to step into it and make a better throw, and both the throw and the catch were perfect. I guess it depends which you value higher -- perfect execution at the biggest possible moment, or a clutch play with some luck involved at the biggest possible moment. Holmes probably has a little edge as well because it was the Super Bowl, not the NFC Championship.

I also find it kind of a weird coincidence that both of those plays started at the 6 yard line.

tony hipchest
02-06-2009, 07:05 PM
I also find it kind of a weird coincidence that both of those plays started at the 6 yard line.

:tap: hmmm. interesting indeed.

so basically joe was kinda just tossing it up to a wr who was pretty much open in the back of the endzone and hoping he would come down with it, whereas ben was shuffling in the pocket, went through all his reads, avoided the colapsing pocket and made a surcgical precision strike with absolutely no room for error?

:thumbsup: that must absolutely kill tom brady that big ben has the montanaesque moment that he has dreamed about all his life. :laughing:

i LOVE it. :tt02:

suck it brady and kiss the foot of adam vinatieri 9who has ALSO won another sb since the patriots last sb victory). :toofunny:

devilsdancefloor
02-06-2009, 07:21 PM
I think what makes it better than "the catch" is that it was in the super bowl and "the catch" from memory was in the NFCCG against dallas.:tt03::tt03:

Milkman
02-06-2009, 07:22 PM
I'm still taking heat here in Cinci and arguing with them that yes, both of his feet were actually down. Losers. :mad:

I feel your pain.

MasterOfPuppets
02-06-2009, 07:50 PM
I'm still taking heat here in Cinci and arguing with them that yes, both of his feet were actually down. Losers. :mad:print a bunch of copies of these, and when one of the assclowns open up thier pie holes....shove em down thier throat...
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6663/catch2lc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7523/catchom5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

lilyoder6
02-06-2009, 07:56 PM
u know who ever got those pics.. are probably making a killing right now.. i think this is the best just b/c of what evryone alrdy has said.. and the triple cov and great great throw by ben.. just simply wow

CPanther95
02-06-2009, 08:11 PM
The key to addressing the whiners, because of the variety of angles, is the position of Francisco. Look where he is when the ball is almost to Holmes:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/009sdwq6nU25N/610x.jpg

... and then here, after Santonio has possession:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0d1F2Khdqi06c/610x.jpg

In the first Photo posted by MasterOfPuppets, his feet are down and Francisco has his left hand on him already. In the second photo, his right forearm has made it to Santonio's back.

If you look at the photos the the idiot Cards fans post, along with the zoom of his foot off the turf - Francisco is already driving him to the ground with his right elbow, and the ball would have had to be thrown waist-high for that to be the point of possession.

jev7452
02-06-2009, 08:18 PM
The key to addressing the whiners, because of the variety of angles, is the position of Francisco. Look where he is when the ball is almost to Holmes:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/009sdwq6nU25N/610x.jpg

... and then here, after Santonio has possession:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0d1F2Khdqi06c/610x.jpg

In the first Photo posted by MasterOfPuppets, his feet are down and Francisco has his left hand on him already. In the second photo, his right forearm has made it to Santonio's back.

If you look at the photos the the idiot Cards fans post, along with the zoom of his foot off the turf - Francisco is already driving him to the ground with his right elbow, and the ball would have had to be thrown waist-high for that to be the point of possession.


i noticed that too!! nice try though cardinals fans! unfortunately your whining wont do you any good here!!.. and i think that this catch is definitely one of the most jaw-dropping plays i have seen, especiallyy in a super bowl!:popcorn:

Steelersfanforlife
02-06-2009, 10:04 PM
I was just watching NFL Total Access on the NFL Network and they were saying that Santonio's game winning catch was the greatest in NFL history. I was just curious as to everyone's opinion on this.

IMO its not the greatest but in my top 5

steelerNATION
02-06-2009, 10:15 PM
No question about it, he was definetly good...totally made it a sick game!!

JackAttack 5958
02-07-2009, 10:24 AM
Steve Sabol of NFL Films called Santonio Holmes TD catch to win the Super Bowl not only the greatest gamewinning SB catch of all time, but the greatest catch ever to win a game of all time. There have been other gamewinning Super Bowl catches like John Taylor's and Plaxico Burris's, but they were mundane in comparison to Holmes' spectacular grab. I was feeling the same way but Sabol validated it for me since NFL Films has some of the most spectacular NFL moments in their library so he ought to know.

By the way, I'm glad to be on the board here after being continually frustrated at the "other" Steelers website message board, which didn't seem to work half the time. I kinda resent being called a waterboy though.

Godfather
02-07-2009, 11:17 AM
print a bunch of copies of these, and when one of the assclowns open up thier pie holes....shove em down thier throat...


Or stuff them in their shirt pocket like Bill Cowher with the photo proving there were only 11 players on the field.

Morgan
02-07-2009, 11:26 AM
I have watched the play over and over, and it's very clear that his toe was down, you can see how his foot pivots because his toe is down. If it wasn't down, his foot would turn differently.

CPanther95
02-07-2009, 11:30 AM
Yeah, even from the front, you can see his back ankle flex when the toe hits the ground.

CPanther95
02-08-2009, 11:49 AM
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