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wardislord
02-13-2009, 01:14 PM
this article really grinds my gears :banging:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9217162/Do-juiced-up-Steelers-teams-deserve-asterisks?&MSNHPHMA

come on! really???? so based on this article every single team who won a superbowl before there was an NFL policy on steroids should have an asterisk. idiot.

lilyoder6
02-13-2009, 01:38 PM
simply wow... if these ppl want to do that.. then i guess evry team b4 the 87/88 season when they started testing for the stuff should have an asterik... then the pats should def have an asterick by there SB wins for cheating

NJarhead
02-13-2009, 01:45 PM
simply wow... if these ppl want to do that.. then i guess evry team b4 the 87/88 season when they started testing for the stuff should have an asterik... then the pats should def have an asterick by there SB wins for cheating

Exactly! Talk to me AFTER you put the asterick next to the Pats SB wins. Otherwise STFU! "FOX SPORTS" is a tabloid...nothing more.

fansince'76
02-13-2009, 01:57 PM
3/4 of the frigging league was juicing in the '70s. It all started with the '63 Chargers WHO HAD THE SHIT ON THEIR TRAINING TABLE. Next. :coffee:

Jackal
02-13-2009, 01:59 PM
I get so tired of hearing about f**king asterix, especially pertaining to steroid abuse, that I could scream whenever someone brings it up.

The fact of the matter is that while, yes, the 1970's Steelers may have been juicing, along with the rest of the league, you can't create a rule after the fact and then go back and prosecute or sanction those who may have been in violation prior to the rule being in place. That would be like the federal government banning cigarettes and then going back and fining people who smoked 10 years ago.

NJarhead
02-13-2009, 01:59 PM
3/4 of the frigging league was juicing in the '70s. It all started with the '63 Chargers WHO HAD THE SHIT ON THEIR TRAINING TABLE. Next. :coffee:

But they never won anything so the "juicier" target is the Steelers. But wait, weren't the Raiders big into that shit too? Or was that later when it WAS illegal? Screw these idiots.

Fire Haley
02-13-2009, 02:00 PM
More haterade.

Anybody asking about the Cowboys or 49ers in the 80's?

At that time steroids were neither illegal nor banned.

Dino 6 Rings
02-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Hey, I need more hits to my website, quick, I know, I'll right an article that is Anti-Pittsburgh Steelers, that'll always generate plenty of hits to impress my boss.

Fck these people, Fck all of them. I hope everyone of these writers that writes these types of stories dies. Dies I say. Dies!

Jackal
02-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Every man taking Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra should get an asterix whenever his wife has an orgasm.

Dino 6 Rings
02-13-2009, 02:13 PM
Letter to Mark Kriegal...nice picture on your bio. tell me, what's it like to be going bald at your age anyway? Does it make you feel like less of a man? Do you spike your air with products like that to try and impress the ladies?

Do you think this arcticle on your website will be enough to get you paid so you can go down to the nearest overpass and have a hooker lick your butt through some plastic? Or do you pay her to lick her butt?

I wonder Mark, what kind of Man you really are inside. Deep inside when your alone in the dark, do you day dream about these Sterioded out men doing things with you? I wonder Mark, how often do you touch yourself and say out the names of the 74 Steelers Roster?

Does it feel good Mark? Do you feel better now?

X-Terminator
02-13-2009, 02:18 PM
When they put asterisks next to the titles of the Raiders and Cowboys, both of which won multiple championships in the 1970s and were also using them, then we'll talk. Especially the Raiders, who were probably juicing more than any other team in the league. Otherwise, I don't want to hear it.

Stick your haterade up your ass, Kriegel.

vasteeler
02-13-2009, 02:49 PM
:rofl:Every man taking Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra should get an asterix whenever his wife has an orgasm.

stlrtruck
02-13-2009, 03:54 PM
I guess this means for every super bowl won before the 90's should have an * next to it because of the change in league rules and policies?

What a jag-off

IndyColtsSBXLI
02-13-2009, 04:01 PM
Wow that's really retarded

steelreserve
02-13-2009, 04:40 PM
I don't get this. When people demand asterisks because of steroids, it's always for individual achievements, not team championships. That's because steroids are very much an individual thing and an individual choice, and it's not fair to take it out on the whole team if you find out one guy or even a few guys were cheating. Don't get me wrong, I don't approve of steroids by any means, but unless you can prove that it was a team-wide effort at cheating, it does not seem reasonable that a bolt of lightning can come down at any time and torch the whole team if you find out one guy, or even a few guys, were doing this on their own.

You also have no way of telling how steroids affect things in a team sport. When Barry Bonds was juicing along with a ton of other players on the Giants, a lot of them had great individual numbers, but half the time, the team sucked anyway. And you see a ton of people clamoring for the home run record to get an asterisk, or for McGwire and Clemens not to get into the Hall of Fame ... but you never hear anyone saying the A's and Yankees' World Series titles should be revoked. People go after the Steelers as a team for those kind of accusations but no one else -- with other teams, it's all individual. That's garbage, and I'd like to know why that is.

Cordlisberger
02-13-2009, 04:41 PM
That was a journalist* trying to make a name for himself.. I seen something on tv last night with people asking if they though Ben did hgh but the made side by sides with him and rulled it out almost immidiatly this is dumb, I think for now on he should put an astrek on all of his articals **********

Dino 6 Rings
02-13-2009, 04:42 PM
I still want to know what type of Enhancement Mark is using for his spiked hair. Or are those plugs?

devilsdancefloor
02-13-2009, 04:46 PM
http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/2/13/f_2mgo7zpm_44c656e.jpg

MACH1
02-13-2009, 05:10 PM
But they never won anything so the "juicier" target is the Steelers. But wait, weren't the Raiders big into that shit too? Or was that later when it WAS illegal? Screw these idiots.

I'm guessing probly every team that won a SB up till they league started testing for it. :noidea: And most of the teams in the league.

SteelCurtain7
02-13-2009, 05:19 PM
What a distressing display of idiocy by Kriegel. He's been chugging Jason Craplock's Haterade by the case, it seems.

He may not be the sharpest tool in the shed...but he's still a tool. :rolleyes:

MasterOfPuppets
02-13-2009, 05:40 PM
3/4 of the frigging league was juicing in the '70s. It all started with the '63 Chargers WHO HAD THE SHIT ON THEIR TRAINING TABLE. Next. :coffee:exactly.....how is it an advantage if EVERYBODY else is doing the same thing ??? :noidea:

rbryan
02-13-2009, 06:27 PM
The beady eyed little chowder head looks like he would know all about roids first hand.....too bad he was such a scrawny little bitch to begin with that all they helped him to acheive in life was a tiny dink and no balls. I'd love to see him tell Mel Blount to his face his moronic opinions(Even at the ripe old age of 60 he would kick this lil bitch all around the youth home)

Deflection at its best........we don't have to make up stories or regurgitate heresay from disgruntled ex players or even better some azzhat on the Bunglers payroll to make a decision about the patsi*s

The NFL did that for us when they levied the unprecedented penalities for spygate.

To say no one took roids on the 70 Steelers would be naive......to say the Steelers were the only ones is just another lame attempt from chowderhead nation to try and feel better about themselves. It must really suck to be a patsie fan.

westcoastransplant
02-13-2009, 06:47 PM
One thing about it is that this clown is succeeded in getting everybody talking about and getting hits to the website. But the whole article is just opinionated nonsense. I love that he wrote in that the NFL did not have a steroid policy at that time and did not put one in for a while. So he's clearly stating that they did not break any NFL violations, but should have astericks on their tirles none the less. I just don't get it. All I know is that every time I go to Heinz Field during the season, I see 5 Trophy's. Can't wait to see the 6th next season.

SteelCurtain7
02-13-2009, 06:58 PM
I just deleted Foxsports on my "favorites" page. No more hits for this jerk. :mad:

Fire Haley
02-13-2009, 07:12 PM
bite this

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc283/usagold/Sixburgh.jpg

verks36
02-13-2009, 08:12 PM
simply wow... if these ppl want to do that.. then i guess evry team b4 the 87/88 season when they started testing for the stuff should have an asterik... then the pats should def have an asterick by there SB wins for cheating

lol in any one should have an asteriks it should be the pats

there in no definitive proof the steelers took steroids yet it is PROVEN the Pats cheated

i rest my case

the nfl did all they could to cover up the pats

DoctorCAD
02-13-2009, 09:17 PM
What a dick...

beSteelmyheart
02-13-2009, 09:24 PM
Letter to Mark Kriegal...nice picture on your bio. tell me, what's it like to be going bald at your age anyway? Does it make you feel like less of a man? Do you spike your air with products like that to try and impress the ladies?

Do you think this arcticle on your website will be enough to get you paid so you can go down to the nearest overpass and have a hooker lick your butt through some plastic? Or do you pay her to lick her butt?

I wonder Mark, what kind of Man you really are inside. Deep inside when your alone in the dark, do you day dream about these Sterioded out men doing things with you? I wonder Mark, how often do you touch yourself and say out the names of the 74 Steelers Roster?

Does it feel good Mark? Do you feel better now?
Wow! I thought I had a vivid imagination!:chuckle:
I wasn't going to bother reading this until this post, & I see what you mean.. He kind of looks to be my age, which would make him a boy back then...Maybe he got picked on alot & used to dream at night about being one of the Steelers so that he could go to school & kick some bully ass & the fantasies just evolved from there.

tyler289
02-13-2009, 09:29 PM
Every man taking Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra should get an asterix whenever his wife has an orgasm.

Thread over.:rofl:

Texasteel
02-13-2009, 09:58 PM
bite this

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc283/usagold/Sixburgh.jpg

Now that is beautiful.

HometownGal
02-13-2009, 10:17 PM
Every man taking Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra should get an asterix whenever his wife has an orgasm.

:toofunny::rofl::laughing:

What a douchebag Kriegel is. He must have been separated at birth from Cris Collinsworthless - both of them have heads like limp johnsons. :upyours:

These shitbags will sell their souls to Satan himself to try to discredit the Steelers. Nice try but no cigar.

NEPAsteeler
02-14-2009, 12:09 AM
And I suppose there's not ONE other team out there whose players used performance enhancing drugs? It's just another attack on the Steelers. I guess they had no other team's reputation to try to destroy.

Galax Steeler
02-14-2009, 06:51 AM
What a moron it is the off season I guess he had to try and make up an article to keep his job.:screwy:

SC Steeler Steve
02-14-2009, 09:43 AM
Every man taking Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra should get an asterix whenever his wife has an orgasm.

Excuse me please:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::toofunny::toofunny::toofu nny::toofunny::laughing::laughing::laughing::laugh ing:

What about extends huh, do they get a free pass. what about US guys who are just naturally well hung?

SC Steeler Steve
02-14-2009, 09:44 AM
That article was a pile of typing shit.

BlastFurnace
02-14-2009, 12:08 PM
Until the NFL is willing to go through every single Super Bowl, scrutinize every single play, potentially change Champions, and * everything that might be questionable...then I don't want to hear it any more from these writers.

People are desparate for ratings and everything else today. Everyone and every team that wins anything is bludgeoned to death by criticism because of the cynicism of our society.

I pull for the laundry...the symbol on the helmet. I don't know any of the Steelers, nor do I know what they are taking...if anything at all. My job as a fan is to hope they cross the goal-line with the ball, win ball games, and bring championships home.

I realize we have good guys, I realize we have dirtbags...and I realize that I have enough faults of my own than to scrutinize the how's and why's of their lives. I enjoy the Steelers for what they are....my favorite team 33 years running.

X-Terminator
02-14-2009, 02:11 PM
It's also a product of the "anti-winners" society we've become. If anyone achieves success or becomes the best at anything, whether it's sports, business or any other walk of life, they automatically have a bulls-eye on their backs, with people trying to find anything and everything to tarnish or take them down. The public schools are a prime example of this, but that is for another thread and forum. When you have Steelers fans rooting for the Cardinals because "the Steelers have won enough championships" (HTG heard this first-hand), it shows how deeply this sentiment has taken hold. This "article" only feeds that mentality even more, which really should shock no one, because that is all the media does anymore.

If the Pats* championships don't deserve an asterisk, or the 70s Raiders and Cowboys, then the Steelers don't either.

SteelCityMom
02-14-2009, 02:17 PM
It's also a product of the "anti-winners" society we've become. If anyone achieves success or becomes the best at anything, whether it's sports, business or any other walk of life, they automatically have a bulls-eye on their backs, with people trying to find anything and everything to tarnish or take them down. The public schools are a prime example of this, but that is for another thread and forum. When you have Steelers fans rooting for the Cardinals because "the Steelers have won enough championships" (HTG heard this first-hand), it shows how deeply this sentiment has taken hold. This "article" only feeds that mentality even more, which really should shock no one, because that is all the media does anymore.

If the Pats* championships don't deserve an asterisk, or the 70s Raiders and Cowboys, then the Steelers don't either.

It's the Harrison Bergeron mentality...if one person/group of people can't be the best at something then everyone should be equally mediocre so that no one will feel inferior to anyone else.

BlackAndGold4Ever
02-14-2009, 04:43 PM
Such BS. In the 70's it was well known that the whole league was taking roids. The past is in the past and we know have 6 rings so deal with it

jjpro11
02-14-2009, 05:27 PM
how do some of these writers even have jobs? if the steelers did it, you know damn well the raiders and cowboys did it.. those two teams would have done anything to improve their chances at beating the steelers. if the league cared about it back then or thought the steelers were the only team in the league doing it, they would have implemented some regulations against it.. hell, they changed the rule book to keep the defense from being so dominant during that time.

SC Gamecokk
02-14-2009, 06:41 PM
More haterade.

Anybody asking about the Cowboys or 49ers in the 80's?

At that time steroids were neither illegal nor banned.

you hit the nail on the head man...nothing but a bunch of punk ass haters!:yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn:

jjpro11
02-16-2009, 11:55 PM
send that a$$hole writer this and ask him if the league should asterisk the patriots super bowls because of steroids.. thats 2 players who were caught from their team now.

http://wbztv.com/sports/larry.izzo.bonds.2.936537.html

Report: Izzo Named As Witness In Bonds Trial
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The L.A. Times reported this weekend that Patriots special teams captain Larry Izzo has been named a potential witness for the government in Barry Bonds' upcoming trial. Bonds is being tried for perjury and obstruction of justice in connection with the investigation into his alleged steroid use.

The Times report says "Syringes, human growth hormone, vials and documents pertaining to other athletes with connections to (Bonds' person trainer Greg) Anderson, including Jason and Jeremy Giambi and New England Patriots linebacker Larry Izzo, are on the government's exhibits list.

"The Giambi brothers and Izzo are among those who are expected to testify they received performance-enhancing substances from Anderson, along with instructions about how to administer them."

Izzo testified before a grand jury back in 2003 in the BALCO steroid investigation.

Izzo has been in the NFL for 15 years and spent the last eight years with the Patriots. He's eligible to become and unrestricted free agent on Feb. 27.

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tony hipchest
02-17-2009, 12:07 AM
all patriots are on the juice.

Brady = nfl version of A-Rod.

DACEB
02-17-2009, 06:48 AM
all patriots are on the juice.

Brady = nfl version of A-Rod.

Kind of funny, because Brady's name was linked to Balco at one point, got swept under the rug.

JEFF4i
02-17-2009, 08:51 AM
Some teams have dog-killers, wife-beaters, and a slew of major felons...but they didn't win 6, so its not that big of deal.

The_WARDen
02-17-2009, 11:01 AM
Hey, I need more hits to my website, quick, I know, I'll right an article that is Anti-Pittsburgh Steelers, that'll always generate plenty of hits to impress my boss.

Fck these people, Fck all of them. I hope everyone of these writers that writes these types of stories dies. Dies I say. Dies!

DING DING DING!! That's why I pass right over that nonsense. No hits from me.

:popcorn:

STEEL-MAN
02-17-2009, 02:55 PM
Some people stir soup to feed people, others stir up crap. This is a debate for the uninformed fan that wants to jump on the Steeler hater's band wagon. The question should be "who in football didn't use noids"? He's trying to get hits on his blog, just like Whitlock does with his stupid comments. It is not possible to put a moral stand on the a speck of what happened in the past, things were different then, besides being a legal drug in those days. An * could be put on the times but why, those people who used them paid with their health and their lives, I don't understand why people can't see the trees for the forest?

M. Webster defines people like this guy "functional idiot"

so don't sweat the small stuff, it has been this way since the beginning of time.