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lamberts-lost-tooth
02-22-2009, 06:32 AM
Here is the trade value chart for the upcoming draft.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

In another thread I have looked at the possibility of trading down from the #32 slot to the middle of the 2nd round to give us an extra 2nd & 3rd round pick (Still like that scenerio based on who may be on/off the board at #32)

With the value chart you can also figure out where we can trade UP to. For instance, our #32 slot is worth 590 points....our #64 slot is worth 270 points, for a total of 860 points.

You can look at the value chart to see that we may be able to trade up as high as the #19, which is worth 875 points (the #20 is worth 850 points).

That trade could land us a top-tier OT like Britton....but at the expense of not having another pick until #96 at the end of the 3rd round. (Where we may be able to pick up an OG like Canfield).

Just thought it was worth you all taking a look at the value chart and start thinking about the possibilities.

Texasteel
02-22-2009, 06:41 AM
That would be a tough decision, unless we could us some of next years picks to move up. I have told you before I am not prepared to give up one the DLs you and I have targeted in the 2nd round. Based on that I still like your trade down idea, and like the players you targeted in that scenario.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-22-2009, 06:56 AM
That would be a tough decision, unless we could us some of next years picks to move up. I have told you before I am not prepared to give up one the DLs you and I have targeted in the 2nd round. Based on that I still like your trade down idea, and like the players you targeted in that scenario.

Agreed...I love the thought of getting Britton...but the "trade down scenerio"...gives more value...


For those wondering what we are talking about....here are the possible three scenerios with possible picks:

A) Stay with existing picks.

1) OC Alex Mack
2) DE Jarron Gilbert
3) OG Kraig Urbik
3) OT Alex Boone
4) FS Sherrod Martin
5) DE Pannel Egboh
6) NT Antonio Dixon
7) FB Travis McCall

B) Trade Down

2) DE Jaron Gilbert
2) OT Fenuki Tupou
3) OT Phil Loadholt
3) OG Kraig Urbik
3) CB Mark Parson
4) FS Sherrod Martin
5) DE Pannel Egboh
6) NT Antonio Dixon
7) FB Travis McCall

C) Trade Up

1) OT Eben Britton
3) OG Kraig Urbik
3) OG Trevor Canfield
4) FS Sherrod Martin
5) DE Pannel Egboh
6) NT Antonio Dixon
7) FB Travis McCall

lilyoder6
02-22-2009, 09:44 AM
if the steelers are set on moving away from the 32nd pick... i would hope they would move down and get the extra picks.. since we have issues at several postitions.. this is NOT the yr to move up and give up a pick when we could inject youth at d-line, get a cb or another o-line

Pi Kapp Steeler
02-22-2009, 09:49 AM
pick 32=590 point value
pick -64=270 point value
If we trade both we will be at 860 PV which would put us near the 20th 21st pick range

Ironically the teams that have the 20th and 21st picks both have two 1ST round picks(detroit and phili) . Which means that they will be more willing to trade.

So at the 20-21st pick we will try to snag Jason Smith or Eben Britton both worthy Tackles to start on our oline

Lets say we trade Foote for a 3rd rounder from Detroit That would give us three 3rd round picks , two of which we can deal with.

Although Detroits 3rd round is basically a 2nd rounder

If we were to trade Detroits 3rd round pick(265 PV) + our own 3rd Round (116pv) = 381pv which would put us back in the second round pick 52

So Round 2 at pick number #52 we can go after Victor "macho " Harris which would bring depth to CB and a starter in KR/PR

Now our compensatory picks would come at the end of the round pretty much where our original pick was

So Round 3 lets say pick #100 We snag Robert Ayers DE from Tenn

Round 4 Pick # 128 - Luis Vuisquez Gaurd from texas tech
Round 5 pick# 160- Brannan Southerland FB from georgia
Round 6 pick# 192- Trimane Goddard FS UNC
Round 7 pick# 224- no clue
Round 7 pick# 228ish- no clue

Texasteel
02-22-2009, 09:56 AM
Now I am going to say something I am going to get stomped on for.

What if we trade Parker for a 2nd. If we really think Mendenhall is the future, we will only have Parker for one more year anyway, I think.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-22-2009, 09:59 AM
if the steelers are set on moving away from the 32nd pick... i would hope they would move down and get the extra picks.. since we have issues at several postitions.. this is NOT the yr to move up and give up a pick when we could inject youth at d-line, get a cb or another o-line

Excellent post. Right on the money IMO.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-22-2009, 10:00 AM
Now I am going to say something I am going to get stomped on for.

What if we trade Parker for a 2nd. If we really think Mendenhall is the future, we will only have Parker for one more year anyway, I think.

Maybe to a team like the Bills?...who will be dealing with a RB who is about to get a "Bengal Vacation"?

Texasteel
02-22-2009, 10:02 AM
Maybe to a team like the Bills?...who will be dealing with a RB who is about to get a "Bengal Vacation"?


It's a thought.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-22-2009, 10:10 AM
It's a thought.

Yea, I agree....but you are about to get a serious beatdown by some on this board...:rofl:

Texasteel
02-22-2009, 10:13 AM
Yea, I agree....but you are about to get a serious beatdown by some on this board...:rofl:

I'm 60 years old. I can alway play the senility card. :chuckle:

devilsdancefloor
02-22-2009, 10:48 AM
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/2/22/f_coffesmileym_f519e31.gif

you wanna do what tex...

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-22-2009, 10:53 AM
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/2/22/f_coffesmileym_f519e31.gif

you wanna do what tex...


Tex who?
:old:

lilyoder6
02-22-2009, 10:59 AM
Excellent post. Right on the money IMO.

well thank u sir..



back to parker being traded... it could be done.. he does have only 1-2 yrs left on the contract.. if mendenhall becomes as good as we think he can be.. then moore could be the offset of mendenhall.. then we could keep logan "if good" as the 3rd down back and the returner...

and if we can get a 2nd for fwp.. i would love that.. since if say bills.. they would pick like 11th or 12th in the 2nd rd.. and the steelers could get another quality player..

so many possibilities

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-22-2009, 11:05 AM
well thank u sir..



back to parker being traded... it could be done.. he does have only 1-2 yrs left on the contract.. if mendenhall becomes as good as we think he can be.. then moore could be the offset of mendenhall.. then we could keep logan "if good" as the 3rd down back and the returner...

and if we can get a 2nd for fwp.. i would love that.. since if say bills.. they would pick like 11th or 12th in the 2nd rd.. and the steelers could get another quality player..

so many possibilities

Which is what makes Mock Drafts so difficult.

Texasteel
02-22-2009, 11:59 AM
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/2/22/f_coffesmileym_f519e31.gif

you wanna do what tex...

Actually that is pretty much what I am doing right now.

lilyoder6
02-22-2009, 01:05 PM
Which is what makes Mock Drafts so difficult.

i wonder what the days of a mike mayock and a mel kiper jr. are... they do the mock draft and ranking players all yr... it must very very tiring

tony hipchest
02-22-2009, 01:35 PM
free agency may be the deciding factor if we trade up or down. if we lose 5 free agents theres alot more open roster spots to aquire more picks.

if we retain all of our FA's, not too much room for so many rookies making the squad.