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KeiselPower99
02-25-2009, 09:17 AM
As much as Eric Mangini has tried to change the culture in Cleveland, one of his biggest challenges now is changing the mind of Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers.

Rogers has grown so disenchanted with the situation in Cleveland that he has asked the Browns not to pick up the $6 million option-bonus payment due to him next month, a source close to the defensive tackle said. Rogers would rather be released after one season with the Browns, despite still being owed another $15 million in guaranteed money.

The Browns said Rogers hasnít asked them to be released.

Cutting Rogers would be difficult to do financially. If the Browns release Rogers, they would have to count more than $9.7 million against their salary cap.

Fire Haley
02-25-2009, 09:20 AM
Mangini is a doofus.


http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/02/browns_tackle_shaun_rogers_rep.html

Browns tackle Shaun Rogers reportedly wants off team, upset with new coach Eric Mangini

by Mary Kay Cabot / Plain Dealer Reporter Wednesday
February 25, 2009,

Browns Pro Bowl defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is so disgruntled with new coach Eric Mangini and the new regime that he's asked the team not to pay his guaranteed $6 million option bonus next month, nfl.com's Adam Schefter reported Tuesday night.

Schefter, according to a source close to Rogers, said the tackle would rather be released after only one season even though he's owed $15 million in guaranteed money. However, he hasn't asked yet to be released, the Browns told nfl.com.

Rogers is reportedly miffed about two off-season incidents in which he feels Mangini snubbed him. The first time, Mangini walked into the Browns' training room and didn't say hello to Rogers, the source said. The second time, Mangini and Rogers were together in the media room at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards on Jan. 23 and neither acknowledged the other. "

xfl2001fan
02-25-2009, 10:14 AM
Ahh...it's so good to be a Browns fan! Ever since the death of AL, this organization has taken a serious nose dive.

fansince'76
02-25-2009, 10:23 AM
Browns Pro Bowl defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is so disgruntled with new coach Eric Mangini and the new regime that he's asked the team not to pay his guaranteed $6 million option bonus next month, nfl.com's Adam Schefter reported Tuesday night....

....Rogers is reportedly miffed about two off-season incidents in which he feels Mangini snubbed him. The first time, Mangini walked into the Browns' training room and didn't say hello to Rogers, the source said. The second time, Mangini and Rogers were together in the media room at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards on Jan. 23 and neither acknowledged the other.

Rogers needs to grow the eff up.

Fire Haley
02-25-2009, 10:29 AM
The ManKok Era is off with a bang.

"Shaun Rogers wants out"

"New Regime lukewarm on Quinn"

"Browns willing to have open QB competition for 09"

rbryan
02-25-2009, 11:14 AM
I knew it wouldn't take long before Rodgers presence in Cleveland would cause every all you can eat buffet to go out of business.

Thats the real reason he wants out.

Godfather
02-25-2009, 11:50 AM
Who wouldn't want out of Cleveland??

RoethlisBURGHer
02-25-2009, 12:11 PM
I told all my Browns fans friends that he would be trouble, they said he just needed out of Detroit.

I can't wait to rub this in thier faces.

stlrtruck
02-25-2009, 12:43 PM
Who doesn't want out of Cleveland??

Fixed it for you!!! :thumbsup:

AllD
02-25-2009, 12:45 PM
"0.0" Cleveland is irrelevant like the Bungles.

OneForTheToe
02-25-2009, 12:49 PM
So much for mangenius.

RoethlisBURGHer
02-25-2009, 01:12 PM
"0.0" Cleveland is irrelevant like the Bungles.

Actually, "-1.5" of Cleveland is irrelevant...at least Cincy knows who thier QB will be.

rbryan
02-25-2009, 01:13 PM
I told all my Browns fans friends that he would be trouble, they said he just needed out of Detroit.

I can't wait to rub this in thier faces.

I guess it didn't take long to realize that Cleveland and Detroit aren't that far apart....in more ways than one. Do think he could have found Cleveland on a map before he signed there?

RoethlisBURGHer
02-25-2009, 01:15 PM
I guess it didn't take long to realize that Cleveland and Detroit aren't that far apart....in more ways than one. Do think he could have found Cleveland on a map before he signed there?

Oh yeah...when looking how to get from Detroit to Pittsburgh he's find it...Cleveland is a good city to stop and take a dump in. :rofl:

Stlrs4Life
02-25-2009, 02:30 PM
Wow, how much pain can come to 1 city? Can't blame him though.

revefsreleets
02-25-2009, 03:27 PM
Rogers eats space and occupies blockers. He's a real and legit 3-4 NT. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the B&G (but he's worth more than vet minimum). I know we have Hampton, but....just spitballin' here...

drizze99
02-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Rogers needs to grow the eff up.

Why? Because he wants his coach to be courteous? OR is "hello" overrated now?

I teach my kids to say hello whenever they walk into a room.....

fansince'76
02-25-2009, 05:49 PM
Why? Because he wants his coach to be courteous? OR is "hello" overrated now?

I teach my kids to say hello whenever they walk into a room.....

I guess expecting him to be a professional about it is too much to ask, and I wouldn't have even said it if it weren't for his previous "issues" in Detroit - namely, his tendency toward being a lazy and gluttonous fatass. I seriously doubt Mangini not saying hello to him is why he's making a stink anyway - he signed on with the Browns in large part because he felt they had a chance to do something after they won 10 games last year. Now, after a 4-12 season and a change in the coaching staff, Cleveland is looking more and more like Detroit to him. Too bad.

St33lersguy
02-25-2009, 05:58 PM
So much for mangenius.

There is always calling him Mangidiot. If someone asks him why he wants out of cleveland he should just say he doesn't want to play for a bunch of losers. That's the best answer. I'm sure all those guys want out of Cleveland, but they're just not vocal about it

steelerbuckeye
02-25-2009, 06:01 PM
He's inconsistent anyway.

revefsreleets
02-25-2009, 06:28 PM
He's inconsistent anyway.

So is Hampton.

Fire Haley
02-25-2009, 06:38 PM
It's more drama in Clowntown, that's all I know.

They'll be ready to hang the spy tape snitch soon, it should be a hoot.

Browns Suck.

That is all.

tony hipchest
02-25-2009, 06:59 PM
So is Hampton.
i dont think people have bought into the fact that we have a coach who can take in a randy moss or corey dillon type player and whip their ass into shape. future players like rodgers (or even non malcontents like m. harrison) may come at a bargain price and give the best of their abilities to play for a coach like tomlin and a team like the steelers. leftwich even saying he might like to stay as back up is proof of that.

other than that.... "ManKok" :laughing:

lilyoder6
02-25-2009, 07:05 PM
geez.. it seems that mangini is not a friendly coach.. all the haters from the jets team just got there points validated with rogers

jjpro11
02-25-2009, 09:22 PM
mangina wont last long there.. i dont have a clue in hell what the browns saw in him.

drizze99
02-25-2009, 09:29 PM
I guess expecting him to be a professional about it is too much to ask, and I wouldn't have even said it if it weren't for his previous "issues" in Detroit - namely, his tendency toward being a lazy and gluttonous fatass. I seriously doubt Mangini not saying hello to him is why he's making a stink anyway - he signed on with the Browns in large part because he felt they had a chance to do something after they won 10 games last year. Now, after a 4-12 season and a change in the coaching staff, Cleveland is looking more and more like Detroit to him. Too bad.

LOL, you crack me up.

steelerbuckeye
02-25-2009, 09:54 PM
mangina wont last long there.. i dont have a clue in hell what the browns saw in him.

He's from the almighty "Bellichick" coaching tree!!!!


lolololllllliieeessss

devilsdancefloor
02-25-2009, 10:21 PM
ya mangina obviously learned his people skills frombelacheat! i would think it wouldbe common curtious to at least go shake the mans hand and say hello glad you are on my team.

jjpro11
02-26-2009, 12:40 AM
mangina certainly is not helping matters. what a player's coach! lol

ESPN's John Clayton reports that DT Shaun Rogers recently asked for a one-on-one meeting with Eric Mangini, but Mangini turned him down.
Mangini told Rogers he'd meet with the team on March 16 and there would be "no individual meetings." Rogers is under contract with little leverage, but this situation could hang over the new Cleveland regime's head for a while.

lilyoder6
02-26-2009, 12:54 AM
mangina certainly is not helping matters. what a player's coach! lol

ESPN's John Clayton reports that DT Shaun Rogers recently asked for a one-on-one meeting with Eric Mangini, but Mangini turned him down.
Mangini told Rogers he'd meet with the team on March 16 and there would be "no individual meetings." Rogers is under contract with little leverage, but this situation could hang over the new Cleveland regime's head for a while.

WHAT a D-bag this man is.. he can not take an hr out of his busy day to talk one of his players, sadly enough prob one of the best

KeiselPower99
02-26-2009, 08:41 AM
He's from the almighty "Bellichick" coaching tree!!!!


lolololllllliieeessss

And that worked real well in the last regime didnt it. Hell even Bellichick couldnt do anything there. I think he may be taking the fact he was on the Sopranos a lil to much. Even Tony met with his crew when they asked.

Stlrs4Life
02-26-2009, 06:25 PM
Weight mandate among issues prompting Shaun Rogers to ask Cleveland Browns to release him
by Mary Kay Cabot / Plain Dealer Reporter
Thursday February 26, 2009, 2:09 PM
Joshua Gunter/ The Plain DealerShaun Rogers has asked for his release from the Browns.
CLEVELAND -- Pro Bowl nose tackle Shaun Rogers has formally asked to be traded or released by the Browns and isn't likely to change his mind, a source close to Rogers said.

Browns coach Eric Mangini has been trying to call the disgruntled tackle, but it's not yet known if the two have talked. Chances are, it wouldn't do much good anyway.

Rogers is miffed not just about being snubbed by Mangini on two occasions, but also by a directive he received from an unknown club official regarding the offseason weight program.

Despite playing all last season at his required weight -- which was listed at 350 -- Rogers was told by the Browns not to bother showing up for the offseason program on March 16th unless he was at a prescribed weight.

The mandate angered Rogers because he was in compliance with his weight all last season. What's more, he played on a sore knee much of the year and with a sore shoulder for most of the second half. He left one game with a neck stinger and returned, never missing any time because of the injuries.

Rogers came to Cleveland with a reputation for his weight ballooning in the second half of seasons, especially in 2007 when it was said that he ran out of gas. That never happened here. In fact, Rogers played some of his best ball down the stretch in 2008, despite the fact the Browns were out of the playoff hunt and in disarray.

Rogers is also upset that the team failed to reach out to him even after they knew he was miffed about the snubs and the weight issue. The club knew that there was a sense of urgency on Rogers' part, but failed to respond until he asked to be released.

Only now is Mangini trying to contact Rogers, and it may very well be too late.

Rogers' agent, Kennard McGuire, made it clear on Wednesday that Rogers' issues have nothing to do with money or his contract. In fact, he'd rather be released than earn the $15 million he's still owed, including a $6 million option bonus due next month.

The unfortunate part -- for Rogers and the Browns -- is that Rogers was rejuvenated in Cleveland and had a Pro Bowl season after virtually being run out of Detroit, where he was viewed as lazy and underacheiving. Rogers also rehabilitated his public image here. He was the best player the Browns had on defense last season and the cornerstone of the 3-4 defense.

It appears now that Rogers would rather play elsewhere than deal with the new regime. For his part, Mangini has said he values Rogers highly, wants him on the team and never meant to snub or disrespect him. It's not known if the weight mandate came from Mangini or someone else.

beSteelmyheart
02-26-2009, 07:09 PM
Going on what I've heard so far about Mangini, I'm going to give Rodgers the benefit of the doubt. Mangini just comes across (in the media) as a dickhead & I can't wait to see Tomlin crush him for that reason alone.

PisnNapalm
02-26-2009, 08:45 PM
Now I remember who this Rodgers guy is. He's the one who landed on Ben more than a few times. I kept looking at Rodgers and thinking.... Sweet Jesus when did they start making mountains that move?

He's farking huge! You're right though... He'd be a good replacement for Hampton if we needed one. I love Hampton though. He's a Steeler and always will be.

jjpro11
02-27-2009, 12:01 AM
mangini is a sniveling little prick.. he was when he was with the jets and will continue to be one. he is the complete opposite of tomlin and even harbaugh. what a joke move by the browns.. they truly do not know how to be a successful organization and this move will set them back further.