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tony hipchest
01-06-2006, 05:09 PM
who will cover this guy? are the patriots concerned about the height most jags receivers bring to the table? i think jones could be in for a career day and be the x-factor if the jags have any thought o f success. even more than fred taylor

Brady12
01-06-2006, 06:31 PM
is that the same MAtt Jones who only has 430 yards this season? Or the same Jacksonville offense that threw just 3190 yards? Don't worry, New England will be prepared.

tony hipchest
01-06-2006, 06:38 PM
is that the same MAtt Jones who only has 430 yards this season? Or the same Jacksonville offense that threw just 3190 yards? Don't worry, New England will be prepared. actually i was looking for insight. what will they do to prepare for m. jones? who is gonna be covering him. mixed coverages? a zone? or will they have one dude on him. just cause d. branch only has 600 or so yards in the regular season doesnt mean the opposition can ignore him

Brady12
01-06-2006, 07:01 PM
actually Branch had 998 yards :smile: I don't know who will cover him, maybe litp knows more than me.

Suitanim
01-06-2006, 07:09 PM
I think the question might be better phrased "Who on the Pats team will cover anyone?" Only San Francisco gave up more passing yards in 2005 than the Pats.

CantStop85
01-06-2006, 10:09 PM
I think the question might be better phrased "Who on the Pats team will cover anyone?" Only San Francisco gave up more passing yards in 2005 than the Pats.
You have to admit...the secondary's horrible right now. I mean the Pats have Artrell Hawkins starting at safety. This guy got cut by the Bengals when they were still the Bungles and had fallen out of the league until the Pats picked him up. He's toast...I've seen it too many times before.

The pats will have to get it together by defending the pass in order to win, but I just don't think they have enough talent to do it right now. I also agree that Matt Jones could have a big day, especially if Leftwich is playing at 100% to deliver him the ball.

Suitanim
01-06-2006, 10:23 PM
(Clearing throat)...er...um...Bengals weren't much better. They gave up 134 TOTAL fewer passing yards than the Pats, and ended up 26th in the league in that category. The rushing defense was much better, but still average as far as the league goes.

CantStop85
01-06-2006, 11:15 PM
(Clearing throat)...er...um...Bengals weren't much better. They gave up 134 TOTAL fewer passing yards than the Pats, and ended up 26th in the league in that category. The rushing defense was much better, but still average as far as the league goes.
Why do we always have to start attacking my team in an off-topic thread?

I can't be held responsible for what the team I support does on the field. It's not like I'm coaching the team I root for. I am simply making observations on a team that I have watched as a football fan.

Either way, our D was still at least slightly better, so can I now have the right to comment? Sheesh, would you take my comments more seriously if I were a steelers fan? Wait, let me guess...yes. :busted:

Suitanim
01-06-2006, 11:20 PM
Why do we always have to start attacking my team in an off-topic thread?

I can't be held responsible for what the team I support does on the field. It's not like I'm coaching the team I root for. I am simply making observations on a team that I have watched as a football fan.

Either way, our D was still at least slightly better, so can I now have the right to comment? Sheesh, would you take my comments more seriously if I were a steelers fan? Wait, let me guess...yes. :busted:

Dude, no need to go psycho...I tried to be subtle by clearing my throat first...It's just that...well...nevermind, you'll see Sunday Night about 8 or so...

Brady12
01-07-2006, 12:10 AM
This is where it pains us to not have Rodney Harrison.

Livinginthe past
01-07-2006, 02:44 PM
who will cover this guy? are the patriots concerned about the height most jags receivers bring to the table? i think jones could be in for a career day and be the x-factor if the jags have any thought o f success. even more than fred taylor

Hey Tony - excuse my tardiness - I have been forced to return to work the last couple of days!

Ok - the Jags recievers certainly hold a height advantage over the Patriots secondary - and there is not much we can do in the actual secondary to offset that.

What the Pats will be relying on his getting pressure on the Jags QB and getting it early - im reasonably certain that Leftwich can be panicked into throwing the ball up for grabs if he think his WR's have a better than average chance of coming down with the ball.

I dont think we will see too much physical play at the line by the Pats DB's as they will come off 2nd best in most physical confrontations - they will most likely play fairly soft and will often be in a zone rather than man-2-man.

What I believe they will is utilise the game plan against the Rams from the SB - play soft and keep the game in front of themselves - but then take the opportunity to lay some big hits on the WR's.

The Jags are a team of physical monsters - id be willing to bet they outsize most teams in the league - however this doesn't ever seem to result in them running up huge scores (apart from the last 2 weeks against poor opposition).

Leftwich has to be rusty if he starts and accuracy will surely be the order of the day - after a terrible start to the season the DB division of NE, whilst not anywhere near elite, has shown improved confidence - Hobbs and Samuel have shown decent ball-hawking skills in recent weeks.

I dont think the Jags can live with the Pats in a shootout but they will be looking to make it a defensive grind 9-6 or similar.

Matt Jones is a similar player to our very own Ben Watson (TE) he has the pure physical stats to cause massive mismatches all across the field but , like Matt Jones, needs to work on route running and seperation.

In short, we struggled with our DB all last year due to injuries but BB schemed a way around it - this year is just the same - now we have a relatively settled DB division we can start working on some schemes to confuse the opposition instead of ourselves.

NM

tony hipchest
01-07-2006, 05:01 PM
i think pats win this by 3 or less probably on late vinatieri heroics. i dont think the jags should play how they normaly do (conservative, run first, 9-6) game. im thinking they should try what has seemed to work for the steelers this season and thats go up top early and use the pass to set up the run. i would like the jags #s if they had 180 yds passing and 30 yds rushing going into half with a very close score. i think they need to try and isolate some wr on bruschi or even w/ f. taylor and try to pop his calf or wear him out. (nothing mean, just make sure he can play). since the jags have pretty much lost the game before they enter the stadium i like the sound of throwing the ball deep and often, and work on down to the shorter routes and finally the running game. i would take atleast 2 shots downfield with j. smith in the 1st 2 drives. they should expext leftwich to get hit but not let that force them into trying to open things up with the running game. this will play into the pats hands and really let them know when they are gonna pass. think the pats secondary will play real disciplined and more confident in known passing situations. i wouldnt mind seeing the jags pull a trick out of the pats book and run alot of 4 wr sets. i think it will work and why not. after all theyre gonna lose anyways. especially if they play like theyre relying on fred taylor to win the game.

clevestinks
01-07-2006, 05:04 PM
I look for the Pats to win by a TD! The Jags don`t impress me much!

Livinginthe past
01-07-2006, 05:19 PM
i think pats win this by 3 or less probably on late vinatieri heroics. i dont think the jags should play how they normaly do (conservative, run first, 9-6) game. im thinking they should try what has seemed to work for the steelers this season and thats go up top early and use the pass to set up the run. i would like the jags #s if they had 180 yds passing and 30 yds rushing going into half with a very close score. i think they need to try and isolate some wr on bruschi or even w/ f. taylor and try to pop his calf or wear him out. (nothing mean, just make sure he can play). since the jags have pretty much lost the game before they enter the stadium i like the sound of throwing the ball deep and often, and work on down to the shorter routes and finally the running game. i would take atleast 2 shots downfield with j. smith in the 1st 2 drives. they should expext leftwich to get hit but not let that force them into trying to open things up with the running game. this will play into the pats hands and really let them know when they are gonna pass. think the pats secondary will play real disciplined and more confident in known passing situations. i wouldnt mind seeing the jags pull a trick out of the pats book and run alot of 4 wr sets. i think it will work and why not. after all theyre gonna lose anyways. especially if they play like theyre relying on fred taylor to win the game.

You want $10 on 3 points or less - Pats win? Ill take the over.

NM

Brady12
01-07-2006, 10:35 PM
I look for the PAts to win by 25! Oh wait i'm a little late..