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mesaSteeler
03-03-2009, 08:12 PM
Steeler Report: Veteran receivers plenty; will the Steelers bite now that Washington is gone?
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PITTSBURGH - As the free-agency period heads into its second week the biggest question right now for the Steelers, is what do they do about the No.3 receiver slot.

Nate Washington got a hefty pay raise when he signed with the Titans on Monday, more then the Steelers would have been able to tender him but his departure leaves a big void to fill.

The Steelers drafted Limas Sweed in the hopes he could develop into a Plaxico Burress type guy, one who eventually could move into Hines Ward's No. 2 slot. Instead, he was a huge disappointment last year.

Given Pittsburgh's history of developing second year players into top caliber talent, Sweed will be worth watching heading into OTA's and Training Camp.

For now though, how do you fill the void left by Washington without breaking the bank? While they are long shots to join the team, with the Steelers anything is possible. So here are a few that might be worth looking at as they turn to some veteran help via the market.

1) Devery Henderson- He is the second coming of Washington. Last year he had 32 receptions for 793 yards for the pass happy Saints, but he also dropped a number of balls. If it sounds familiar it is Washington II, but much faster. The Buccaneers are reported to be interested in him, and being so far under the cap would have money to make a huge deal. His tendency to drop passes have scared some teams, so he could be available at the right price.

2) Bobby Engram - Yes he came into the league in 1996, and last year suffered a broken shoulder in training camp that forced him to miss the first three games of the season. Still he had 47 receptions and 489 yards in 2008. Not the speed of Washington, but a veteran who could help while Sweed learns the ropes. He is also just two years removed from a 94 catch season. Engram has ties to the area, having played for Joe Paterno at Penn State.

3) Shaun McDonald - There has not been much talk about the 5-10 McDonald, who caught 79 passes in 2007. His average per catch last year was just under ten yards, but he could fill a need and be there for the taking at a nominal fee.

4) Marty Booker- Yep, another veteran in his 30's. Still he would be worth a gamble as he still has some speed left in the burners and averaged 15 yards per catch.

5) Ronald Curry- Who? Exactly. Which is why the 30 year old might not draw much interest and be there for the taking, at a nominal fee. He has three 700 yard seasons to his name, but last year only had 19 receptions in 13 games. Yet another veteran.

AFC NORTH NUGGETS

Yesterday the Examiner reported that interest in Steeler free-agent Bryant McFadden had been dwindling.

Here's yet another corner who just signed that could have an impact on what happens with the Steeler free-agent. Domonique Foxworth, who was rated much lower than McFadden, signed a lucrative deal with the Ravens.

Foxworth's deal with the Ravens is around $7million per season. DeAngelo Hall recently got six years for $54million with $22.5million guaranteed while Kelvin Hayden received five years for $43million with $22million guaranteed.

"What we have found out over the 13years of this organization is when we've had good corner play, we've won," general manager Ozzie Newsome said during a press conference on "Having that as a strength on your football team leads me to believe that we can be a successful team on the field next year."

McFadden was in Arizona on Monday, not Sunday as earlier reported by many sources including the Examiner. It remains to be seen as to how the market plays out with him. One source has said that McFadden not playing a full year has something to do with the lack of attention, but again the free-agency period has just begun.

TJ signs with Seahawks?

After talking with the Vikings for over five hours on Sunday, TJ Houshmandzadeh decided to sign with the Seahawks, thus ending his era with the Bengals.

Sources tell the Examiner that the Bengals had an offer on the table higher than the deal Hines Ward (five years, $33 million) signed, but a five-year, $40 million contract that included $15 million in guaranteed money was offered by Seattle according to John Clayton and Michael Smith of ESPN.com

Houshmandzadeh leads all NFL receivers with the most receptions (372) since 2005.

Browns fodder

Is new Browns coach Eric Mangini becoming the next Bill Belichick? Time will tell, but his trading of the oft outspoken Kellen Winslow for a second round pick has sent out signals that he is in charge and the country club that former coach Romeo Crenell ran is over.

Here's an interesting rumor to follow in the next few weeks, although the Examiner's sources in Cleveland have heard no rumblings of it in the works. It comes from a Broncos blog site and says Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers will be traded for for Jay Cutler and the Broncos 3rd round draft pick.

Mangini wants to stockpile draft picks, but pulling a deal like this one? Highly unlikely. A better scenario has the Browns trading receiver Braylon Edwards, who has said in the past he is not happy in Cleveland.

Cornerback/return man Chris Carr, who will also be talking with the Steelers, is expected to visit the team this afternoon.

SunshineMan21
03-03-2009, 09:36 PM
Here's one vote for Engram . . .

GodofGridiron
03-03-2009, 10:06 PM
I want Malcom Floyd.....3yr vet 6-4 225lbs

MasterOfPuppets
03-03-2009, 10:14 PM
shawn mcdonald or mike furrey......maybe even take a peak at demetrius williams , he hasn't had much of chance in bmore with thier sucky qb's.

devilsdancefloor
03-03-2009, 10:26 PM
shawn mcdonald or mike furrey......maybe even take a peak at demetrius williams , he hasn't had much of chance in bmore with thier sucky qb's.

i think it is worth the look for sure.

steelwall
03-03-2009, 10:28 PM
We need a speedster in my book. Hopefully Sweed will come into his own this comming year. I think he knows that he played like crap for a big part of the season and will be looking for redemption.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-03-2009, 11:23 PM
shawn mcdonald or mike furrey......maybe even take a peak at demetrius williams , he hasn't had much of chance in bmore with thier sucky qb's.

Is Demetrius Williams a UFA?? I was interested in him back in 06, but we drafted Willie Reid instead in the 3rd. I was pimping Furrey around the Super Bowl.......would like to see him signed as veteran insurance.

jjpro11
03-03-2009, 11:32 PM
floyd and williams are both RFAs

Nighthawk
03-03-2009, 11:47 PM
I vote for none, we don't need them... Not our style anyways.

MasterOfPuppets
03-04-2009, 12:02 AM
Is Demetrius Williams a UFA?? I was interested in him back in 06, but we drafted Willie Reid instead in the 3rd. I was pimping Furrey around the Super Bowl.......would like to see him signed as veteran insurance.
he WAS a RFA......the deadline to tender a RFA was feb 26....the ravens never offered him a tender, so now he's fair game...:wink02:

paw-n-maul-u
03-04-2009, 12:49 AM
I dont want some scrub vet.

Percy HARVIN ... you heard it hear, probably not first tho.

FredScott
03-04-2009, 02:47 AM
To be honest I think Sweed is going to do just fine for use. I mean the guy really didn't get alot of playing time so yes even though he did drop a few passes lets wait and judge him until after this year since it looks like he is going to get a lot more playing time now seeing as we usually don't do a lot in FA. I seriuosly think he is going to have a pretty good year for us this year but if I had to choose a guy off that list I would go with Shaun McDonald just for the fact we already have good speed with Holmes and height with Sweed so McDonald would give us another possession receiver that we could go to and lets face it this guy should come pretty cheap as well.

Galax Steeler
03-04-2009, 03:31 AM
I would say it would be worth a shot to look at williams. I think he would be the better fit for us.

Rick5895
03-04-2009, 05:47 AM
Don't overspend, we have Sweed, I believe he will step up this season. Draft a speed/return guy in the 3rd or 4th round or higher if the value is there.

IamTheSteelGod
03-04-2009, 06:38 AM
I agree, I say take our chances with Sweed. Remember that hit on Ivy lol!

HometownGal
03-04-2009, 07:22 AM
My vote goes with keeping Sweed. If the Steelers disagree, however, I would prefer that they grab up Shaun McDonald.

revefsreleets
03-04-2009, 10:06 AM
I figured Henderson would be the guy if we went FA to fill the need.

But I don't think we've even had a single FA visit to date, have we?

Fire Haley
03-04-2009, 11:13 AM
I don't think we've even had a single FA visit to date, have we?


Nope - give it another month or two.

I'll take WR Miles Austin - 6'3 215, a RFA - but we can deal.

steelreserve
03-04-2009, 11:24 AM
Sweed's contract would seem to indicate we were already committed to at least giving him a shot at the job after Nate left. No use spending more money here. For all I care, we can go get another receiver out of the garbage can to be the #4 guy, and if he can compete for #3, good for him. As long as we're not spending a lot of money, because we need it for other things.

Steely McSmash
03-04-2009, 11:39 AM
Steeler Report: Veteran receivers plenty; will the Steelers bite now that Washington is gone?
March 3, 9:51 AM Add a Comment
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...a big void to fill.....

The Steelers drafted Limas Sweed in the hopes he could develop into a Plaxico Burress type guy, one who eventually could move into Hines Ward's No. 2 slot. Instead, he was a huge disappointment last year.
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Is it really that big of a void to fill? Washington scored like 3 TD last year. I really don;t see this as a huge deal.

As for Sweed, this guy says that we expect him to DEVLOP into a good player, and we do. So why is his rookie year a huge disappointment? were you expecting him to be Plax in his rookie year?

Typically receivers reach journeyman level in year 2-3. The guys that contribute as rookies are the exception, not the rule.

Sweed has the wheels and needs to get the experience so that he doesn't have to think about his play so much. I think he'll be fine this year and great in 2010. His hands in his rookie year are about as good as Washington's in year 3.

As for FA signing, I think this is a good idea for depth but not neccesarily for replacing Nate with the exact same skill set. If these guys have that kind of speed, then they're probably out of our budget or they have other issues with hands etc. I could see a pickup like Engram being a good move in case of injury etc. Not sure a young guy would be so versatile.

What do you think the Steelers are looking to pay? Nate got 27M over 6 years with 9M guaranteed. 4.5M per year. I'm thinking the FO would make a 2-3 year deal for 1.5-2 M/yr

SteelMember
03-04-2009, 11:43 AM
Sweed's contract would seem to indicate we were already committed to at least giving him a shot at the job after Nate left. No use spending more money here. For all I care, we can go get another receiver out of the garbage can to be the #4 guy, and if he can compete for #3, good for him. As long as we're not spending a lot of money, because we need it for other things.
Hey, Don't talk about Dallas Baker like that. :chuckle:

Sharkissle29
03-04-2009, 12:00 PM
I dont want some scrub vet.

Percy HARVIN ... you heard it hear, probably not first tho.

As stupid as this sounds, if he is available (most likely wont be, but you never know) the steelers will draft him. As much as it would piss fans off, the steelers are known to pick the BPA. And if he is there, no doubt he is a pittsburgh steeler. The same could be said if Malcom Jenkins falls to us....

Dino 6 Rings
03-04-2009, 12:00 PM
Didn't Plaxico spike the ball his rookie year during a live play?

Pretty sure he did. Pretty sure Holmes was invisible his entire Rookie Season too until the OT Game against the Bengals.

Whatever. Keep working with Sweed, bring in a young Draft pick late to compete with him, maybe sing some scrub from another team to push him harder and see what we got.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-04-2009, 12:14 PM
I see Harvin being there, but doubt that the Steelers choose him. Ben will have problems with a 5'11" WR. I think other WR's that will go ahead of Harvin are:

Michael Crabtree
Jeremy Maclin
Darrius Heyward Bey
Kenny Britt

steelreserve
03-04-2009, 12:22 PM
Didn't Plaxico spike the ball his rookie year during a live play?

Pretty sure he did.

I think my favorite memory of Plaxico was when he caught a pass against a blown coverage and no one was within 20 yards of him. He had a completely uncontested 50-yard run to the end zone, but instead he fumbled the ball out of bounds because he was trying to show off by carrying the football like he was palming a basketball while he ran. Way to cost the team a touchdown because you were trying to be all gitto. I'm sure you impressed everyone into thinking you were all thugged out wit gold teef, which is what really counts.

MDSteel15
03-04-2009, 12:33 PM
I dont want some scrub vet.

Percy HARVIN ... you heard it hear, probably not first tho.

One word for ya.... NO

KeiselPower99
03-04-2009, 01:38 PM
Devery Henderson has reportedly reupped with the Saints.

WitchKing701
03-04-2009, 02:31 PM
I think Sweed is the guy, and I think Baker is expected to compete with him for #3. Rookie receivers tend to take 2-3 years to mature in the pro system, and I think we drafted Sweed in the 2nd round last year specifically because of this eventuality.

While there will likely be top receivers available at 32, I'm hoping we hold off and go with an OL in the first round. However, if any of these guys somehow magically falls to us in the 2nd round, I wouldn't be surprised if we went after him. After all, Hines is a UFA and mid-30s next year, and even if we re-sign him, getting a top draft pick to eventually replace him in 2-3 years might be a long-term move the FO is considering.

FredScott
03-04-2009, 04:32 PM
As stupid as this sounds, if he is available (most likely wont be, but you never know) the steelers will draft him. As much as it would piss fans off, the steelers are known to pick the BPA. And if he is there, no doubt he is a pittsburgh steeler. The same could be said if Malcom Jenkins falls to us....

Yea true this guy can play and would be nice to have him but we need so much help on the O line I see us taking OL atleast with our first 2 picks in this years draft.

Jackal
03-05-2009, 09:19 AM
T.O. anyone???

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

BlastFurnace
03-05-2009, 09:40 AM
T.O. anyone???

:rofl::rofl::rofl:


I'd rather bring back Lee Mays than bring that bum in.

scsteeler
03-05-2009, 09:53 AM
I don't think the Steelers will sign any of the Free Agent receivers on the market. Ward, Hines, and Sweed will do fine for us. The only way I see picking up a free agent receiver is if one of our guys get hurt.

With Washington gone I see the tight ends being used more on offense.


The Steeler's will never be that hard up to sign T.O.

The Duke
03-05-2009, 02:46 PM
I don't think the Steelers will sign any of the Free Agent receivers on the market. Ward, Hines, and Sweed will do fine for us. The only way I see picking up a free agent receiver is if one of our guys get hurt.

With Washington gone I see the tight ends being used more on offense.


The Steeler's will never be that hard up to sign T.O.

man I really hope you're right. we all know how good heath can be....as long as they throw him the damn ball

this should be helpful while sweed develops

and heath is in a contract year so who knows what happens next....

Texasteel
03-05-2009, 05:33 PM
I thought Sweed ran good routs and got himself open quite a bit. His problem was concentration, he just dropped the ball. A problem that Nate had for a long time. I expect a lot of improvement this year.

As for Percy Harvin, I have a real phobia about Florida WRs.

CPanther95
03-05-2009, 05:58 PM
Quinn and Rogers will be traded for Jay Cutler and the Broncos 3rd round draft pick.

Yeah right. Keep dreaming.