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revefsreleets
03-16-2009, 01:43 PM
This guy is a real piece of work. This has GOT to be embarrassing for the left.

(Bear in mind, this is only a way to pay for his socialized health care plan. He only stole part of McCain's idea, but he's still running with his government run health care idea. In essence, he's stealing a great idea to pay for a horrible one)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29703278/

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the health care system.

The proposal is politically problematic for President Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as “the largest middle-class tax increase in history.” Most Americans with insurance get it from their employers, and taxing workers for the benefit is opposed by union leaders and some businesses


In television advertisements last fall, Mr. Obama criticized his Republican rival for the presidency, Senator John McCain of Arizona, for proposing to tax all employer-provided health benefits. The benefits have long been tax-free, regardless of how generous they are or how much an employee earns. The advertisements did not point out that Mr. McCain, in exchange, wanted to give all families a tax credit to subsidize the purchase of coverage.



etc, etc...

RunWillieRun
03-16-2009, 02:28 PM
Come one, Rev. You know the left will spin this as some brilliant plan to save America!


Side note: This is from msnbc.com (MSDNC)? I bet whomever let this gem get onto their website is now looking for new work.

revefsreleets
03-16-2009, 02:39 PM
He BLASTED McCain for this. Called it "The largest middle class tax increase in history".

I mean, if I was a liberal, I would be OUTRAGED with Obama right now. What the Hell is the guy doing? Does he know. Does anyone know?

This guy is running our country in the middle of a HUGE financial crisis, and he has no clue what he's doing, and it's increasingly obvious with each passing day...

SCSTILLER
03-16-2009, 04:33 PM
This guy is running our country in the middle of a HUGE financial crisis, and he has no clue what he's doing, and it's increasingly obvious with each passing day...

This is what America get's for voting in a community organizer. Heck, a Chicago community organizer at that. You can tell he is in way over his head!

He will say this "plan" of *AHEM* his is a way to get everyone free healthcare/handouts and the left will bow and praise him for his wisdom. I was not for McCains plan on health care, but at least he would let you claim it on taxes like you said.

J Dogg
03-17-2009, 01:37 PM
What's really disappointing is that McCain is just sitting on the sidelines not doing a damned thing about it. You'd think that he's be jumping up and down on his desk screaming about how Obama is doing more or less what he was talking about.

But no, he just sits backs and plays the Maverick while his daughter goes on the The View and looks like a total space cadet.

xfl2001fan
03-17-2009, 02:36 PM
Wait for it...someone who supports the Left is bound to bring up Palin and her inexperience.

revefsreleets
03-17-2009, 03:38 PM
What's really disappointing is that McCain is just sitting on the sidelines not doing a damned thing about it. You'd think that he's be jumping up and down on his desk screaming about how Obama is doing more or less what he was talking about.

But no, he just sits backs and plays the Maverick while his daughter goes on the The View and looks like a total space cadet.

McCain blasted the recent spending bill, and hit Obama pretty hard in the process. He's actually bucking the trend of recent defeated presidential candidates and actually still out in front. Usually these dudes just fade into oblivion...

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/mccain-loses-fight-over-earmarks/?hp

HometownGal
03-17-2009, 03:41 PM
What's really disappointing is that McCain is just sitting on the sidelines not doing a damned thing about it. You'd think that he's be jumping up and down on his desk screaming about how Obama is doing more or less what he was talking about.

But no, he just sits backs and plays the Maverick while his daughter goes on the The View and looks like a total space cadet.

Are you serious??? WTH is he supposed to do about it? McCain has class and isn't going to make waves publicly, though he has to be steaming on the inside. I know I sure would be. The Great One is trying to thieve McCain's idea and claim it as his own, though he pitched a fit about that plan during the campaign and even went so far as to conveniently fail to mention McCain's tax CREDIT on those benefits in his "slam McCain" ads.

Obama is, plain and simple, a total FARCE and an embarrassment to our country and those who blindly voted him into office. I have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them.

MACH1
03-17-2009, 04:53 PM
Its kinda hard for McCain to do much when Mancy (Gotta have it my way) Pelosi running everything.

J Dogg
03-17-2009, 06:27 PM
I have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them.

Like him or not, he's still our President.

xfl2001fan
03-17-2009, 09:03 PM
Like him or not, he's still our President.

President or not, he's still a clueless idiot who is bound and determined to run something into the ground.

Havik
03-17-2009, 10:19 PM
Obama is, plain and simple, a total FARCE and an embarrassment to our country and those who blindly voted him into office. I have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them.

This is my exact opinion of George W. Bush

tony hipchest
03-17-2009, 10:53 PM
This is my exact opinion of George W. Bush

:shake01: that kinda talk is severely frowned upon. infact the GOP now goes by the GOD.

prepare to bow at the altar.... :wink02:

MACH1
03-17-2009, 11:44 PM
prepare to bow at the altar..

You mean the Obaaama altar.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/blogagog/obama-as-a-god.jpg

:flap:

HometownGal
03-18-2009, 06:56 AM
This is my exact opinion of George W. Bush

Bbbbbbbut Bbbbbbbut Bbbbbbbut Bush. I don't recall this thread having anything to do with FORMER President Bush. How typical. :yawn: :coffee:

J Dogg
03-18-2009, 07:31 AM
President or not, he's still a clueless idiot who is bound and determined to run something into the ground.

Is that you in your avatar picture?

revefsreleets
03-18-2009, 08:23 AM
Attacking GWB is NOT an adequate defense for Obama.

Barrack Obama needs defended on his own merits, and the merits of his own actions. In fact, given the propensity Obama has for adopting Bush policies (and stealing any other GOP ideas), it's actually almost becoming a mirror effect: ATTACKING Bush IS attacking Obama.

That dog don't hunt. Try and prop Obama up on his own...resorting to attacks on Bush are weak, lame, and no longer even remotely relevant.

xfl2001fan
03-18-2009, 11:14 AM
Is that you in your avatar picture?

From back in 2003, yes.

stlrtruck
03-18-2009, 01:02 PM
Attacking GWB is NOT an adequate defense for Obama.

Barrack Obama needs defended on his own merits, and the merits of his own actions. In fact, given the propensity Obama has for adopting Bush policies (and stealing any other GOP ideas), it's actually almost becoming a mirror effect: ATTACKING Bush IS attacking Obama.

That dog don't hunt. Try and prop Obama up on his own...resorting to attacks on Bush are weak, lame, and no longer even remotely relevant.

Especially since Obama preached that he was not a clone of GWB (as he accused McCain of being).

And how can a man who has not stood on his so-called own merits be defended on his own merits?

While I'm still reserving my overall judgment of Obama the President, I'm not comfortable with the big talk no action that he's been up to since taking office. However, with that being said it seems that all that campaign promising was just a waste of hot air and nothing more than stories to be told later as make believe!

MasterOfPuppets
03-18-2009, 01:56 PM
Attacking GWB is NOT an adequate defense for Obama.

the propensity Obama has for adopting Bush policies (and stealing any other GOP ideas), it's actually almost becoming a mirror effect: ATTACKING Bush IS attacking Obama.

. then whats all the bitching about ? if attacking bush is attacking obama, then doesn't it stand to reason that attacking obama is attacking bush ? :noidea:

The_WARDen
03-18-2009, 02:02 PM
The stock market is up for like the 6th straight day. Isn't that the ultimate judge or was that just the BS that was spewing when it was down to make Obama look bad?

:popcorn:

Oh yeah...and Palin doesn't know what she's doing.

Dino 6 Rings
03-18-2009, 04:57 PM
The stock market is up for like the 6th straight day. Isn't that the ultimate judge or was that just the BS that was spewing when it was down to make Obama look bad?

:popcorn:

Oh yeah...and Palin doesn't know what she's doing.

I'm not sure this is how we wanted the Market to rebound:

Fed to buy up to $300B long-term Treasury bonds
Fed will buy up to $300 billion of long-term government bonds; keeps key rate at record low

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Reserve announced Wednesday it will spend up to $300 billion over the next six months to buy long-term government bonds, a new step aimed at lifting the country out of recession by lowering rates on mortgages and other consumer debt.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fed-to-buy-up-to-300B-apf-14679757.html

Heck yeah I want it to keep going up. We'll see what we see.

HometownGal
03-18-2009, 07:19 PM
then whats all the bitching about ? if attacking bush is attacking obama, then doesn't it stand to reason that attacking obama is attacking bush ? :noidea:

Bush isn't a factor in this equation any longer. Obama is holding the reins and putting a stranglehold on every American since almost the day he took office, most recently - those who are serving and have served the country that HE is presiding over. Nice try. :wink02:

revefsreleets
03-19-2009, 08:04 AM
then whats all the bitching about ? if attacking bush is attacking obama, then doesn't it stand to reason that attacking obama is attacking bush ? :noidea:


Thank you! Someone gets it!

My point is that the left is STILL ripping Bush even though Obama is adopting his policies left and right. I actually applaud Obama for adopting Bush/McCain policies, because they are, quite simply, stronger and sounder policies than his own.

BUT it is horribly hypocritical of him to do so all the same.

As for the market rebound, I'm assuming that Benanke talking on 60 Minutes and stating that the Fed is pumping a trillion bucks into the system helps. As is the news that Obama is about pump a trillion into the banks to wipe the toxic shit off their books.

You can't have it both ways, though (as I KNOW the left will try to do). They will TRY to say that the market tanked because of Bush, and rebounded because of Obama. Cherry picking the things that Bush did wrong and the things that Obama did right doesn't wash.

Dino 6 Rings
03-19-2009, 04:07 PM
In regards to my post #22

US stock rally fades as investors assess Fed moves

NEW YORK (AP) -- Investors doused a two-week-old stock rally Thursday on worries about fallout from the Federal Reserve's plan to pump more than $1 trillion into the financial system.
A slump in banking and other financial shares pulled the market lower, but energy stocks got a boost from soaring crude oil prices.
The retreat came a day after the Federal Reserve announced plans to buy up $300 billion in Treasury bonds and increase its purchases of mortgage-backed debt securities.

The effect of the actions will be to add hundreds of billions of dollars of new money into the financial system in an effort to break a logjam in lending. By buying bonds, the Fed will push borrowing costs lower for purchases of everything from homes to cars


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090319/na_us_closing_stocks.html?.v=2

revefsreleets
03-20-2009, 09:27 AM
If this move works, the stock market should CONTINUE it's rally, not fade.