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I-Want-Troy's-Hair
03-26-2009, 12:37 AM
Nice thought Marv but don't see it happening anytime soon...sorry big fella. :rofl:

http://postgazette.com/pg/09085/958404-66.stm

Model: Lewis wants his team to follow Steelers

DANA POINT, Calif. -- A year ago, Pittsburgh was in an uproar. Alan Faneca, a Steelers Pro Bowl guard and team captain, was allowed to flee in free agency without so much as an offer from his own team. The Steelers had lost in the first round of the playoffs under a new coach. The offensive line was a mess, the defensive line old and the free agent signings were minimal.

Now, the free agent signings are below minimal, they are nonexistent in Pittsburgh, at least when it comes to signing other team's free agents.

The view looks different today, though. Winning a Super Bowl will do that for you. Now, the Steelers are the model, from teams hiring 32-year-old head coaches who look like Doogie Howser to taking a laissez-faire approach in free agency.

Among them is division opponent and former heated division rival Cincinnati, which fell off the wagon for a while there when it tried to sign every bad boy who came through the system. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis, who grew up near Pittsburgh and coached on Bill Cowher's first staff with the Steelers, was not in favor of that then and finally has imposed his will about how he would like to fashion his team.

He wants to do it the Steelers way, and he believes his team is on the right track because of it after losing their way after their division title in 2005.

"It's hard to evaluate the past," Lewis said the other morning. "I think we're a little better than we were then because we don't have the fly-by-night attitude."

Without so much as naming Chad Johnson, Lewis said his players could have taken a lesson from the Steelers in acting like they had been there before after their successful 2005 season. Instead, they pounded their chests right into missing the playoffs in '06, followed by the plummet to 7-9 in '07 and 4-11-1 in '08.

"You had a bunch of guys who thought they were responsible for why the team had won,'' Lewis said. "And now they realize they really weren't. It takes a whole football team to do that. They were just one cog in the wheel, but unfortunately when you have a team that has success that hasn't had success, everybody wants to beat their chest."

And that brings Lewis to his example of how the Steelers operate. They like to keep their own players first, but won't give them everything they want. They're selective. Ben Roethlisberger needs a big contract, you give it to him. Alan Faneca wants one, too, they draw the line. Joey Porter becomes ultra expensive, go with little-known James Harrison.

"That's the thing that's proven in the NFL is you can't have a football team that has the highest paid player at every spot,'' Lewis said. "You need a team that has a lot of guys that play very well at a high level but yet know collectively they have a chance to be champions."

Getting to that point is the toughest job, especially for a team such as the Bengals. The Steelers have operated in that manner for years and it's become an accepted m.o. by their players and fans, for the most part.

"It's a huge job," Lewis said. "If you look around and look at the model of the Steelers, Alan Faneca wanted to be paid at the top. They moved on and became world champions. Hines Ward took less than those other receivers and he's a more productive player than them. He knows he's got a good thing going on a good football team."

The Patriots and Steelers operate in that manner, Lewis said, and they've combined to win five of the past eight Super Bowls. He believes it also has helped them attract other role players and to re-sign their own for less than what another team might have had to pay them.

"One dollar less is better than two dollars more if you're going to have the opportunity to win," Lewis said.

The challenge for the Bengals, he said, is building what the Steelers and Patriots have managed to maintain all these years.

"You have to let some key guys go, and replace them and continue to draft well and cultivate and mature and coach our guys into being the next good player."

And you cannot worry about public perception or even what the locker room thinks.

"You don't lose sleep over it. You do the next best thing for your football team and that's to continue to draft young players and coach their tails off until they're ready to play."

He said he can think of only one big-signing free agent who had any impact on a team last season in a positive manner, Michael Turner of Atlanta.

"He's the only one. That's the only team that added a [major] guy that went to the playoffs."

So, Cincinnati's Lewis presents the view from outside when some complain that the Steelers have signed no other free agent but their own and allowed a few players to get away: Count your blessings, it's a good thing.

CantStop85
03-26-2009, 02:00 AM
What exactly is an "appifany?" Is that like a viral infection or something?

:chuckle:

BrandonCarr39
03-26-2009, 02:08 AM
Well-the Cards last year in the offseason looked like they were in alot of trouble(i.e. Fitz almost got traded to Philly for an underachieving Lito Sheppard). The year before that, the Giants had major holes at LT, RB, WLB, and to boot had a fractured locker room and a secondary full of swiss cheese.

Of course-the Saints and Eagles were supposed to be the class of the NFC the same year Tom Coughlin was on his last throes in NY. And last year, the Cowboys and Packers were a lock to meet in the NFCCG.

Not saying the Bengals will be any good or anything, but in this new NFL, there's been surprises aplenty every year in recent years.

steelwall
03-26-2009, 02:14 AM
Marvin Lewis has an appifany

Yeah I heard about this, but the version I heard was he knew he should leave the NFL, and travel the globe entering pie eating contests... I dunno which one to believe...

ShutDown24
03-26-2009, 02:32 AM
You want to hear the funniest thing? This is how insignificant the Bengals are at this point.

When I read the topic title "Marvin lewis has an appifany"... I actually forgot who Marvin Lewis was.

Edman
03-26-2009, 03:34 AM
Until Mike Brown is out of there, Marvin is dreaming.

The Definiti0n
03-26-2009, 04:21 AM
epiphany-The sudden realization or comprehension of the essence or meaning of something

douche baggery - The act of being a [douche bag], or the posession of qualities which are of a [douche bag].

stillers4me
03-26-2009, 05:30 AM
The only way Marv will ever coach a team like the Steelrs, is to come back to Pittsburgh. Mike Brown still owns the Bungs.

HometownGal
03-26-2009, 06:55 AM
Keep on having those wet dreams, Marvin. You ain't Mike Tomlin, the Browns aren't the Rooneys, you've got a team full of criminals and egomaniacs and the Bungles SUCK. End of story.

P.S. I edited the title and corrected the typo.

stlrtruck
03-26-2009, 07:03 AM
The challenge for the Bengals, he said, is building what the Steelers and Patriots have managed to maintain all these years.


The difference is the Steelers did it the right way and the patriots* did it cheating!!!

Dino 6 Rings
03-26-2009, 07:32 AM
Well it would be nice to actually have some competition in the AFC north that didn't wear purple and didn't only show up once every forth season or so.

Bring it on Marvin.

trauben
03-26-2009, 09:39 AM
It was a nice read until he began using the Steeler's name with the ***Patsies***! Disgusting.

fansince'76
03-26-2009, 09:52 AM
What exactly is an "appifany?" Is that like a viral infection or something?

:chuckle:

Spelling police? Lame. :coffee:

CantStop85
03-26-2009, 06:28 PM
Spelling police? Lame. :coffee:

I can let the occasional typo slide, but "appifany?" Really? Apparently someone never made it past phonetic spelling. :flap:

If someone's going to have the gall to talk smack on an internet forum, I'm going to have the gall to call them out when they can't spell 6th grade vocabulary. :chuckle:

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
03-26-2009, 06:43 PM
[QUOTE=CantStop85;583460]What exactly is an "appifany?" Is that like a viral infection or something?

xx

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
03-26-2009, 06:46 PM
I can let the occasional typo slide, but "appifany?" Really? Apparently someone never made it past phonetic spelling. :flap:

If someone's going to have the gall to talk smack on an internet forum, I'm going to have the gall to call them out when they can't spell 6th grade vocabulary. :chuckle:

Sorry was laughing so hard when I was reading the article my fingers hit the wrong keys.

Dino 6 Rings
03-26-2009, 07:48 PM
Seriously though...this is funny...like he finally woke up one morning and says...

"You know...that team in Pittsburgh that keeps kicking the living snot out of us...maybe we should be more like they are"

NEPAsteeler
03-26-2009, 08:41 PM
Let him dream. Maybe, just maybe, at some point in the very far away future, the Bungles will be able to put up a fight against us.

devilsdancefloor
03-26-2009, 09:01 PM
the steelers could put out the practice squad guys and the bench guys and i bet we could be the bungels

Dino 6 Rings
03-26-2009, 09:05 PM
the steelers could put out the practice squad guys and the bench guys and i bet we could be the bungels

We actually did that a few years ago against the Bills in the last game of the season and it was a Win and in the playoffs game for the Bills and we still kicked their teeth down their throat.

Some guy in the stands even had a sign that read "First String, Third String, Its Still the Steelers"

Classic Stuff.

I fact...was the 2004 Season.