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MACH1
03-28-2009, 01:07 PM
People need to wake up and take off the blinders and see whats happening, put down the koolaid steins or kiss your freedoms goodbye.

As the Obama administration continues to pile debt upon debt, it is now being compared to a "Banana Republic", a derogatory term that describes a country that implies gross inefficiency and corruption, and led by a dictator. It is being identified by two senators with that description because of what is happening in the United States today.

Of special notice is Obama's use of "signing statements" and "state secrets", following exactly what George W. Bush did, to say nothing of the trillions dollars of debt that have been incurred during the first two months of his presidency.

If anyone needed further proof of hints of a "banana republic", the recent Obama plan to seize non-bank financial companies in another power grab should be sufficient. This is usually seen in dictator-led Latin American countries not in democracies.

It should have surprised no one when Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky) called attention to the Congressional Budget Office announcement that Obama's program will put the U.S. in debt for $9.3 trillion over the next decade.

The senators warned that:

President Obama's budget will lead to unsustainable debt levels and send the country on a fiscal path resembling of that of a "banana republic."

The president's budget spends too much, taxes too much, and borrows too much.

I don't think I've witnessed this level of unease about a budget certainly in the time I have been here. We can't afford this.

Such deficits would trigger a national debt that amounts to running your country into the ground.

What's being proposed here is a massive increase in taxes in order to massively increase the size of government and have virtually no fiscal discipline on the side of borrowing.

The two senators message should have been a wakeup call to Americans. In their words, America now has a debt that is not sustainable and which comprises 80 percent of the Gross National Product (GNP), a ratio that is seen in banana republics.

Meanwhile, the Obama adminstration said the new projection of debts running into trillions of dollars won't stop him from achieving his goals. When he says that he will cut the country's red ink in half within four years, is there anyone left who belives him?

http://www.examiner.com/x-2547-Watchdog-Politics-Examiner~y2009m3d25-Obama-turning-the-US-into-a-banana-republic

steelwall
03-28-2009, 10:47 PM
Your :dollar: being taken and your country in the :trash:

Man I hope we can have some real change, the outlook is freaking horrible.

PisnNapalm
03-28-2009, 11:01 PM
Please people.... Watch this video and then get freaking mad....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TjBNjc9Bo

steelwall
03-29-2009, 01:16 AM
Please people.... Watch this video and then get freaking mad....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TjBNjc9Bo

Tried 3 times but I'm getting an error saying the link is broken.

Muppet13
03-29-2009, 07:25 AM
:banging::banging::banging:

Texasteel
03-29-2009, 07:41 AM
Your :dollar: being taken and your country in the :trash:

Man I hope we can have some real change, the outlook is freaking horrible.

This is real change, it's the change he had in mind from the start. Thats why he wouldn't describe the changes he wanted, but just kept screaming the word. Hopefully the congress can block all of this, but we have to get congress back into the hand of men and women that will appose this guy.

Big D
03-29-2009, 08:49 AM
I try to stay out of the politics in this board. But I can help but say something on this. You guys are doing non stop bitching about Obama when the guy hasn't even been in office four months. All he's trying to do is clean up the shit storm your partys George W Bush left behind. Give the guy some freaking time, Good grief....

HometownGal
03-29-2009, 09:30 AM
All he's trying to do is clean up the shit storm your partys George W Bush left behind. Give the guy some freaking time, Good grief....

Yeppers - he's trying to clean up the "shit" from the prioir administration by quadrupling the national debt. Mmmmm Hmmmm - that'll work. :rolleyes:

D - I wuv ya, but face it. You Demos elected a blithering idiot who has absolutely no clue about what it takes to lead a country, jumpstart the economy, or anything else that is ailing this country. He's a paper President. Sad part is - your vote and the votes of everyone else who put Obama into office will adversely affect those of us who clearly saw through his pie in the sky schtick.

BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT Bush! :yawn: :coffee:

stillers4me
03-29-2009, 09:45 AM
Yeppers - he's trying to clean up the "shit" from the prioir administration by quadrupling the national debt. Mmmmm Hmmmm - that'll work. :rolleyes:

D - I wuv ya, but face it. You Demos elected a blithering idiot who has absolutely no clue about what it takes to lead a country, jumpstart the economy, or anything else that is ailing this country. He's a paper President. Sad part is - your vote and the votes of everyone else who put Obama into office will adversely affect those of us who clearly saw through his pie in the sky schtick.

BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT Bush! :yawn: :coffee:

DITTO

I have nothing more to say. :drink:

X-Terminator
03-29-2009, 09:57 AM
I try to stay out of the politics in this board. But I can help but say something on this. You guys are doing non stop bitching about Obama when the guy hasn't even been in office four months. All he's trying to do is clean up the shit storm your partys George W Bush left behind. Give the guy some freaking time, Good grief....

So basically, according to you he should be exempt from any criticism just because he hasn't been in office for 4 months yet. Am I right?

Look dude, his proposals, if enacted, have the potential of damn near bankrupting this country in less than 10 years. And you're saying that nobody should complain AT ALL about that, and instead sit idly by and "give the guy some freaking time?" Really?

Texasteel
03-29-2009, 10:20 AM
I try to stay out of the politics in this board. But I can help but say something on this. You guys are doing non stop bitching about Obama when the guy hasn't even been in office four months. All he's trying to do is clean up the shit storm your partys George W Bush left behind. Give the guy some freaking time, Good grief....

I don't care if he has been in office for 4 days. Pushing this country into a dealt that dwarfs anything ever seen, in a time of economic slow down is an awful idea. Even for a Liberal / Socialist.

PisnNapalm
03-29-2009, 11:27 AM
I try to stay out of the politics in this board. But I can help but say something on this. You guys are doing non stop bitching about Obama when the guy hasn't even been in office four months. All he's trying to do is clean up the shit storm your partys George W Bush left behind. Give the guy some freaking time, Good grief....


The Dems screamed and bitched about the budget deficits during the Bush administration. The "messiah" is going to make Bush's deficits look like child's play.

$400 billion under Bush
$1.8 trillion in O's first year.

Wrap your mind around that number. An analogy is that he's pulling out the credit cards to the tune of $1.8 TRILLION in his first budget. Congress had better not pass that F***ing budget.

It's financial suicide for our country. :banging:



EDIT::: Oh and one other farking thing.... This economic shitstorm was caused by bad policy during the Clinton administration. It was compounded by Alan Greenspan of the Federal Reserve. Lastly don't forget ourselves.... All those dopes who tried buying homes that were beyond their means. STOP PINNING ALL THE NATIONS PROBLEMS ON BUSH.

I am however blaming Obama for HIS budget proposal. It's irresponsible.


EDIT II::: I will blame Bush for the "Patriot Act" which blatantly ignores the Constitution.

MACH1
03-29-2009, 11:48 AM
I try to stay out of the politics in this board. But I can help but say something on this. You guys are doing non stop bitching about Obama when the guy hasn't even been in office four months. All he's trying to do is clean up the shit storm your partys George W Bush left behind. Give the guy some freaking time, Good grief....

It's been only four months and the guy has damn near broke this country's back. Can't wait to see what kind of damage he can do with a whole four years.

Vincent
03-29-2009, 01:11 PM
Yeppers - he's trying to clean up the "shit" from the prioir administration by quadrupling the national debt. Mmmmm Hmmmm - that'll work. :rolleyes:

D - I wuv ya, but face it. You Demos elected a blithering idiot who has absolutely no clue about what it takes to lead a country, jumpstart the economy, or anything else that is ailing this country. He's a paper President. Sad part is - your vote and the votes of everyone else who put Obama into office will adversely affect those of us who clearly saw through his pie in the sky schtick.

BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT Bush! :yawn: :coffee:

I haven't posted any political opinion in SF yet, so let me start by saying that baraka hussein obama is a card carrying communist that is hell bent on destroying this country. He is an Alinsky disciple and all that implies (luciferarian). This is an individual of no prior accomplishment that was selected by the Chicago "political machine" (read: mob) and packaged in hollow slogans that appeal to mindless dolts inculcated by the wasteland we call "public schools"

bho is not qualified to hold public office because of his associations, his lack of any accomplishment, and his lack of citizenship. When Illinois sent him to the Senate, he immediately went to Kenya to campaign for a muslim marxist.

http://www.forerunner.com/blog/uploaded_images/obama_odinga_august_2006-793401.jpg

Then he set about snookering the numbskull American electorate. All the while the esteemed Senator served his constituency by voting "present" 140 something times. No surpries here, he had done the same while "serving" in the Illinois Senate.

He is a user, a liar, a deceiver, and I believe, the embodiment of evil.

http://www.anti-christ.com/newspics/obama.jpg

But I hope we can all just get along. :chuckle:

Hammer Of The GODS
03-29-2009, 02:15 PM
Please people.... Watch this video and then get freaking mad....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TjBNjc9Bo

Makes me want to line up every politician who ever "served" in office and individually beat the living shit out of them.



WE ARE FUCT!




.

tony hipchest
03-29-2009, 03:12 PM
"Bobby, have you been talkin politiks on dem foosball innernet message sites?"

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/shortyshane_2006/adam_sandler12.jpg

"My ma- my mah- my mamma always say dat Barack Obama is da DEVIL.

GBMelBlount
03-29-2009, 03:45 PM
I haven't posted any political opinion in SF yet, so let me start by saying that baraka hussein obama is a card carrying communist that is hell bent on destroying this country. He is an Alinsky disciple and all that implies (luciferarian). This is an individual of no prior accomplishment that was selected by the Chicago "political machine" (read: mob) and packaged in hollow slogans that appeal to mindless dolts inculcated by the wasteland we call "public schools"

bho is not qualified to hold public office because of his associations, his lack of any accomplishment, and his lack of citizenship.

I agree with every word........

But let's not forget those who are intelligent and knowledgeable, but steeped in class envy, blaming the perceived exploitation and unfairness of capitalism and free markets for their misfortune, as opposed to their lack of motivation or intestinal fortitude, perhaps......

Big D
03-29-2009, 05:44 PM
"Bobby, have you been talkin politiks on dem foosball innernet message sites?"

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/shortyshane_2006/adam_sandler12.jpg

"My ma- my mah- my mamma always say dat Barack Obama is da DEVIL.

so just because I dont agree with the republican point of view, You call me stupid Tony... Real classy

HometownGal
03-29-2009, 06:06 PM
so just because I dont agree with the republican point of view, You call me stupid Tony... Real classy

D - I think you grossly misinterpreted what Tony was "saying" with that post. He wasn't poking fun at you at all - he was attempting to smack us Ribs who don't see Obama as the Messiah, the Savior, the 2nd son of God Himself. Funny thing is that I don't think Tony's statement underneath the pic is too far off - good job hipcheese! :drink: :wink02:

tony hipchest
03-29-2009, 07:15 PM
yeah big d. i was just pointing out how the extreme conservative right thinks that any one who dont vote "lock-step" with their own personal (and maladjusted, right winger) views of the world, is "the DEVIL!".

and no HTG, i was not attempting to engage in smack talk in the locker room (as many others here constantly do). smack talk belongs in the blast furnace.

i was simply poking fun (via the ever so popular photos) of the assertation that obama is the devil. even though it may be a popular viewpoint on this board doesnt make it true. pointing out the absurdity of such claims isnt "smack". :cheers:

HometownGal
03-29-2009, 08:18 PM
pointing out the absurdity of such claims isnt "smack". :cheers:

You're right. It's

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/7594/bullshit6gf.jpg

P.S. I wouldn't say Obama is the devil. He's just a no-class blithering idiot who bamboozled you and everyone else who put him into an office he obviously isn't qualified for. :drink:

Vincent
03-29-2009, 08:34 PM
P.S. I wouldn't say Obama is the devil. He's just a no-class blithering idiot who bamboozled you and everyone else who put him into an office he obviously isn't qualified for. :drink:

Please. I'd not credit bho with being the devil, the spawn, or even being related. He's a worshiper, and as such an influencer of what the devil would have for us, God's creation. And while I'm inclined (my flaw) to call him a no-class blithering idiot, he's anything but that.

http://rlv.zcache.com/anti_obama_red_o_with_devil_horns_and_tail_mug-p168563809568528694741x_325.jpg

HometownGal
03-29-2009, 11:10 PM
And while I'm inclined (my flaw) to call him a no-class blithering idiot, he's anything but that.



I'll have to disagree here. He has fooled a lot of people into believing he is the god of intellectual prowess with his smooth talk, but being a half-decent orator doesn't necessarily make a candidate/President-elect a good President as we are all sadly discovering. The cat is out of the bag and Obama is showing himself not to be the MENSA scholar and the male clone of Marilyn vos Savant that he conned the voters and his sheeple into believing he was. Look no farther than his bailout, stimulus and budget proposals. He obviously didn't put a whole lot of brain power into any of those proposals. :doh:

Though I didn't even consider voting for him because his platform was almost totally opposite of my core beliefs and moral standards, I once felt he was a very classy guy, but some of his recent insensitive and disparaging comments have caused me to lose a ton of respect for him.

tony hipchest
03-29-2009, 11:20 PM
:rofl:

X-Terminator
03-30-2009, 08:53 AM
:rofl:

Real cute.

Being the smartest person in the world doesn't make you an expert on everything, nor does it mean that every decision you make is the correct one. Look at the heads of some of these financial institutions that are being bailed out because of decisions they made - you think all those guys are stupid? Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar. Do you think he always made the right decisions as Governor of Arkansas and POTUS? No way. I work for a major university where some of the brightest minds I've ever seen attend and work, and yet a lot of them have the common sense of dried catfish. It's obvious that some of the brightest people have made some of the biggest bonehead decisions. Come on man - you know this!

Vincent
03-30-2009, 09:14 AM
I'll have to disagree here. He has fooled a lot of people into believing he is the god of intellectual prowess with his smooth talk, but being a half-decent orator doesn't necessarily make a candidate/President-elect a good President as we are all sadly discovering. The cat is out of the bag and Obama is showing himself not to be the MENSA scholar and the male clone of Marilyn vos Savant that he conned the voters and his sheeple into believing he was. Look no farther than his bailout, stimulus and budget proposals. He obviously didn't put a whole lot of brain power into any of those proposals. :doh:

Though I didn't even consider voting for him because his platform was almost totally opposite of my core beliefs and moral standards, I once felt he was a very classy guy, but some of his recent insensitive and disparaging comments have caused me to lose a ton of respect for him.

I think we agree across the board. I don't think he's particularly bright, nor have I been impressed with his speaking. I'm at a loss to explain the worship other than to say there are a lot of severely ignorant people out there. But having said that, and noting that I have ZERO regard for the commie rat bastard, I don't think he's an idiot. His politics and policies are dead wrong.

bho was packaged by the Chicago mob for the Illinois Senate where he did nothing for his constituents. Then the US Senate where he did absolutely nothing he was elected to do. Then the Presidency where he will do nothing that the majority of constituency sent him to do.

None of this is about better anything policy, or making anybody's lot better, or resolving any "crisis". No communist regime has ever been so. This is about grabbing power, consolidating that position, and then crushing all opposition in order to remain in power forever more.

Violent revolution would never work in the US we live in. As long as you have a society that are slaves to their debt (houses, cars, whatever) you'll find few that will step out of their comfort to support a cause. But violent revolution isn't necessary in a nation of debt slaves. Observe the events of the last 6 months.

We are in the midst of a revolution in terms of results of some very cleverly manipulated events. The "housing crisis" set a chain of events in motion that have us at the point of surrendering much of our freedom under the aegis of various "stimuli'" "designed to" avert the crises engineered by the same people that concocted the "solutions".

Did bho engineer all this? Hardly. He's the figurehead.

Its the mob. The Chicago mob? Hardly. Why would a bunch of mafiosos want to take down the country that facilitates their crime? Who then? Who controls the Chicago mob? Who controls crime globally?

Nikita told us in 1956 that they would bury us from within without firing a shot. http://thecommonconservative.com/?p=176 http://grizzlygroundswell.theodoremedia.com/archives/5026 I grew up under that threat. I have watched the events unfold with that in the back of my mind.

"But the soviet union collapsed". No, thats the centerpiece of their ruse. The same mafia packaged as bolsheviks to take down the Tsar, and morphed itself through the rest of the 20th century is the mafia that runs "Russia" today. And it is the same mafia that controls any crime that matters throughout the planet.

We have a chance to save ourselves in the midterm election. If we leave the congress to the dems for another term their power will consolidate to the point of no return and it will be over.

revefsreleets
03-30-2009, 09:27 AM
Here's what REALLY worries me.

If you look at the Bush years, his deficit is probably going to be tied 100% to the Wars. Agree with them or not, they were unexpected (and something had to be done after 9/11) expenses. Otherwise, we could very well have a significant surplus, given the fact that the economy was pounded pretty hard post 9/11 as well.

Anyway, so what we have is a President elected on a platform of calling the previous administration fiscally irresponsible, then, after election, he creates an agenda that is 10X MORE irresponsible, AND has no provision for any other emergency. What happens if we get into it with N Korea or Iran? There is no "wiggle room".

9.3 trillion will probably sink our ship, but if something else goes wrong, and it most certainly could, that could end up being 11 trillion, or 12 trillion.

The true bottom line here is that we're being admonsihed because he's only 4 months into office and he "hasn't hada chance" but for those of us who disagree with the direcetion we are heading, we can conversely say "Look, it's only 4 months in...there is still time to turn this around and point ourselves in the right direction before things become exponentially worse".

4 months isn't very long, but it could also be an eternity of those 4 months are spent doing all the wrong things, and making decsions that will negatively impact this country for decades.

fansince'76
03-30-2009, 09:49 AM
Anyway, so what we have is a President elected on a platform of calling the previous administration fiscally irresponsible, then, after election, he creates an agenda that is 10X MORE irresponsible, AND has no provision for any other emergency. What happens if we get into it with N Korea or Iran?

That's just it - we WON'T get into it with NK or Iran, regardless of what they do short of a direct attack on the U.S., and even then I have my doubts.

revefsreleets
03-30-2009, 09:58 AM
That's just it - we WON'T get into it with NK or Iran, regardless of what they do short of a direct attack on the U.S., and even then I have my doubts.

N. Korea is firing off a rocket soon that is 100% intended for ICBM purposes. Even though Obama is "yeller", the US can still be provoked.

And the additional emergency need not necessarily be military in origin. What if we need to dump another trillion or two into the economy?

Regardless, all these domestic spending increases need scrapped, and we should have a complete spending freeze on anything not DIRECTLY related to Iraq, Afghanistan, or economic recovery (and I mean direct stimulus, not bullshit spending and pork bills). Fix the economy, get it turned around, and try to get all this other crap passed in a second term. Now is not the time to tie up a crippled economy with a trillion dollars worth of spending programs.

fansince'76
03-30-2009, 10:05 AM
N. Korea is firing off a rocket soon that is 100% intended for ICBM purposes. Even though Obama is "yeller", the US can still be provoked.

Doubtful - I see more and more of the "Jimmy Carter approach" in this guy every day - namely, speak softly and carry NO stick. Hope he proves me wrong if the proverbial shit hits the fan, which I pray it doesn't. Of course if all else fails, we can always send the very strong and decisive message of our displeasure by boycotting the Olympics or something. That'll show 'em.

The_WARDen
03-30-2009, 10:06 AM
People need to wake up and take off the blinders and see whats happening, put down the koolaid steins or kiss your freedoms goodbye.



http://www.examiner.com/x-2547-Watchdog-Politics-Examiner~y2009m3d25-Obama-turning-the-US-into-a-banana-republic

I must say...it is enjoyable listening to the whining from conservatives about spending.

Just change the word 'economy' into 'Iraq' and it will all make sense.

:popcorn:

GBMelBlount
03-30-2009, 10:56 AM
I must say...it is enjoyable listening to the whining from conservatives about spending.

Just change the word 'economy' into 'Iraq' and it will all make sense.

:popcorn:

A bit myopic wouldn't you say? There's an elephant in the room and your fixated on the mole on it's rear end.

GBMelBlount
03-30-2009, 11:04 AM
Real cute.

Being the smartest person in the world doesn't make you an expert on everything

Exactly.

Our government is primarily comprised of a bunch of narcissistic attorneys and career politicians who have little or no private sector business experience, yet who are regulating and ruining entire industries they know little or nothing about.

Let's face it 90% of what our government is involved in now is little more than legalized plundering.

Obama is a smart man who has had little experience or success in the private sector, yet he is making and enforcing trillion dollar economic decisions that will be paid for by our children and grandchildren to the tune of tens of trillions of dollars.

Is their anyone on this entire forum who believes this makes sense?

SCSTILLER
03-30-2009, 11:42 AM
Our government is primarily comprised of a bunch of narcissistic attorneys and career politicians who have little or no private sector business experience, yet who are regulating and ruining entire industries they know little or nothing about.

Is their anyone on this entire forum who believes this makes sense?

I don't! I just got done watching Obama speak about GM and Chrysler while I was eating lunch (big mistake, almost threw up my sandwich a couple of time). He stated that he did not want the American Government to run GM or Chrysler (meaning take over), but in the same regard he is telling them HOW to run their company. Does something seem wrong here to anyone else?

Also, I love how everytime he goes on TV to speak, the DOW meter in the corner of the screen always seems to have a red arrow pointing down. Now, I's not a smaht man, but dis caint bee goodz.

revefsreleets
03-30-2009, 11:55 AM
I must say...it is enjoyable listening to the whining from conservatives about spending.

Just change the word 'economy' into 'Iraq' and it will all make sense.

:popcorn:

Again, as I pointed out, the Wars are probably THE one and only difference between Bush running up a deficit, and Bush compiling a pretty nice surplus.

Don't like the War? Fine. But something did have to be done, and there would have been a cost, both monetarily and militarily regardless. 9/11 was not something anyone saw coming.

The financial crunch is different. This really wasn't a TRUE surprise to anyone, and once it happened, there was time to formulate a way to fix it. THIS is where Obama comes up short. He's trying to pay for a complete social makeover for this Country, along with adding a TON of domestic spending on pet liberal programs, at a time when the Country is broke, broke, broke. It's not only untenenable, it's just plain stupid.

I say again, focus on the ONE and ONLY problem that matters right now, which is fixing the economy, spend about 20% time and energy on the wars (the Generals can manage the war efforts), freeze everything domestically and push your social agenda second term. EVERYTHING else must wait! Most of the junk Obama is pushing for will be COMPLETELY scrapped if he torpedoes the economy into oblivion anyway, so something is better than nothing...

JEFF4i
03-30-2009, 12:46 PM
Hey, let's not forget, this might end up in the courts...think we all know how Scalia feels.

MACH1
03-30-2009, 06:07 PM
I must say...it is enjoyable listening to the whining from conservatives about spending.

Just change the word 'economy' into 'Iraq' and it will all make sense.

:popcorn:

http://roguejew.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/putzobama.jpg

I don't! I just got done watching Obama speak about GM and Chrysler while I was eating lunch (big mistake, almost threw up my sandwich a couple of time). He stated that he did not want the American Government to run GM or Chrysler (meaning take over), but in the same regard he is telling them HOW to run their company. Does something seem wrong here to anyone else?

Also, I love how everytime he goes on TV to speak, the DOW meter in the corner of the screen always seems to have a red arrow pointing down. Now, I's not a smaht man, but dis caint bee goodz.

The CEO of GM stepped down from the "request" of the Obama administration.

tony hipchest
03-30-2009, 07:17 PM
next step...

asking the ford family to step down as CEO of the lions.

xfl2001fan
03-30-2009, 07:19 PM
next step...

asking the ford family to step down as CEO of the lions.

Detroit fans around the world...err...block would rejoice. Both of them.