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BrandonCarr39
04-06-2009, 05:45 PM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_619400.html

Two people were hospitalized with gunshot wounds Sunday after a domestic incident in a quiet Pine neighborhood escalated into a three-hour standoff with police.

Northern Regional police Chief Bob Amann said Lynne Agnew apparently shot her ex-husband, Daniel K. Agnew, multiple times before locking herself inside a home in the 500 block of Salem Heights Drive around 5:40 p.m. Sunday. Agnew, a licensed surgeon, was found lying in a neighbor's yard.

A spokesman for Allegheny General Hospital in the North Side said Daniel Agnew was being treated there last night. A condition report was not available.

Lynne Agnew, a photographer who Amann said lives in Shadyside, surrendered to police after they entered her home about three hours after the shooting. Allegheny County SWAT teams and police blocked off Salem Heights Drive and at times communicated with Lynne Agnew over a bullhorn.

Lynne Agnew suffered a gunshot wound to the chest and was taken to a local hospital, Amann said. Amann, who did not know her condition, said police did not whether the wound was self-inflicted.

The Agnews have two children, who Amann said were not inside the home at the time of the shooting. Amann said domestic incidents had been reported at the house in the past. He said a weapon was taken from the home, but would not release further details.

Dana McClure, who lives a few houses away from the Agnews, was surprised by the shooting.

"It's a nice neighborhood," she said. "You never see police come in here. It's usually a pretty quiet place."

Dino 6 Rings
04-06-2009, 06:51 PM
Its like Wild Wild West or something.

Or are more shootings just being reported? Curious.

HometownGal
04-06-2009, 06:59 PM
Scary shit happening in and around the Burgh lately :horror:

This guy was an accomplished surgeon - he did a tremendous job putting my friend's son's shoulder back together a few years back. You never know what goes on behind closed doors, though.

Preacher
04-06-2009, 08:01 PM
IMO... what you are seeing is the stress of the economy blowing marriages apart.

When people think money or houses or things will make things better or bring happiness, marriages fall apart.

In truth, finances are what destroys most marriages.

As to the shootings.. . who knows.

tony hipchest
04-06-2009, 08:14 PM
i knew it. once again, its obamas fault.

Preacher
04-06-2009, 09:18 PM
i knew it. once again, its obamas fault.

Tony.

Please. Show some class.

tony hipchest
04-06-2009, 09:37 PM
Tony.

Please. Show some class.stuff like this has gone on in good times and bad times. i cant blame ted bundy, jeffrey mcdonald, or charles manson on the economy.

if a + b = c then its fair to surmise that c - b = a.

obama is being blamed for the economy. obama was blamed for the kid killing 3 pgh cops.

its a bit sickenning if you ask me, but we live in the day and age of blame, where personal accountability is thrown out the window.

im willing to bet the surgeons wife was hopped up on anti-depressants (that she was doing when the economy was good) and other prescription drugs, and this act had nothing to do with the economy.

msafford
04-06-2009, 09:57 PM
IMO... what you are seeing is the stress of the economy blowing marriages apart.

When people think money or houses or things will make things better or bring happiness, marriages fall apart.

In truth, finances are what destroys most marriages.

As to the shootings.. . who knows.

Sadly....I believe you are definitely right.

Preacher
04-07-2009, 12:19 PM
stuff like this has gone on in good times and bad times. i cant blame ted bundy, jeffrey mcdonald, or charles manson on the economy.

if a + b = c then its fair to surmise that c - b = a.

obama is being blamed for the economy. obama was blamed for the kid killing 3 pgh cops.

its a bit sickenning if you ask me, but we live in the day and age of blame, where personal accountability is thrown out the window.

im willing to bet the surgeons wife was hopped up on anti-depressants (that she was doing when the economy was good) and other prescription drugs, and this act had nothing to do with the economy.

And statistics say that it has everything to do with finances, and in bad financial times, the pressure is more. No one said Obama, no one is blaming Obama. Stop seeing right-wing demons behind every stone.

Or should I say, that was just another panic-post :noidea:

tony hipchest
04-07-2009, 09:56 PM
And statistics say that it has everything to do with finances, and in bad financial times, the pressure is more. No one said Obama, no one is blaming Obama. Stop seeing right-wing demons behind every stone.

Or should I say, that was just another panic-post :noidea:another "panic post"? no. actually it is one of the most basic premises in logic.

if 'a' = 'b' and 'b' = 'c', then 'a' = 'c'

we both know the right-wing is dominated by Christian fundamentalists, and since we are both Chrisian, why would you even suggest i am "seeing demons"? they most certainly may be wrong, but i dont think they are inherently evil.

have you been following major right wing media outlets and talking heads, lately? i would even say the general right wing opinion on this board is a fair assessment of the "majority...

according to THEM, the economy is obamas fault. he has not done enough to fix it in 60 days, he is wrecking it, we are doomed, and socialism and communism is our final destination.

rush, hannity, coulter, beck, o'reily all preach it and millions of sheep eat it up.

THEREFORE, using the rules of simple logic.... if murders = economys fault, and economy = obamas fault, then murders = obamas fault.

personally, i buy into my theory much more. this tradgedy was independent of "economy" and probably had more to do with a chemical inbalance inside the bitches head.

just like the kid who shot 3 cops. blaming obama, or the economy, or global warming is just a cop out.

and in bad financial times, the pressure is more

:noidea:

youre almost sounding like a liberal :horror:, with this statement preach. :busted:

HometownGal
04-07-2009, 10:16 PM
obama is being blamed for the economy. obama was blamed for the kid killing 3 pgh cops.



Seriously, Tony - did you read where anyone here made a big deal out of what that SOB who killed our police officers said about Obama? :doh: I think most of us realize that the guy is just a vicious, demented, evil bastard who should have been blown to bits on the spot.

Please - show the big :heart: I know you have here and leave Obama and the political banter out of this thread. It has nothing to do with him or politics.

tony hipchest
04-07-2009, 11:09 PM
Seriously, Tony - did you read where anyone here made a big deal out of what that SOB who killed our police officers said about Obama? :doh: .

i read the actual article where this kids closest friends actually spoke out to what was most likely his motive.

as for this thread.... to see it blamed on the 'economy', just strikes me as bunk. :noidea:

those are my opinions and i am sticking to them.

if you wish, i wont belabor the point no further. but if anyone presses with the bullshit, i may feel compelled to offer up my opinion on the matter.

Preacher
04-08-2009, 02:30 AM
i read the actual article where this kids closest friends actually spoke out to what was most likely his motive.

as for this thread.... to see it blamed on the 'economy', just strikes me as bunk. :noidea:

those are my opinions and i am sticking to them.

if you wish, i wont belabor the point no further. but if anyone presses with the bullshit, i may feel compelled to offer up my opinion on the matter.

Tony,

Maybe you didn't understand. I was talking not in political realms here, but as a professional. Part of my training as a pastor is marriage and family therapy (though pastors are usually trained enough to diagnose just enough to hand them off to other professionals).

Year in and year out, finances are seen as a major cause of marital strife and divorce. I don't care how or when. It just is. Do a search on finances and divorce...

Whether this was a democrat or a republican administration, I could care less. Right now in my church, I am dealing with a couple of families that are going through a lot of marital stress, based on finances.

Please read this for what it is Tony, a result of the times, not of any particular president. Matter of fact, if you go back to 1971 (furtherest the data goes back on a year by year comparison) you see a significant correlation between divorce and the economy.

970 ...........
3.5
1971 ...........
3.7
1972 ...........
4.0
1973 ...........
4.3
1974 ...........
4.6
1975 ...........
4.8
1976 ...........
5.0
1977 ...........
5.0
1978 ...........
5.1
1979 ...........
5.3
1980 ...........
5.2
1981 ...........
5.3
1982 ...........
5.1
1983 ...........
5.0
1984 ...........
5.0
1985 ...........
5.0
1986 ...........
4.9
1987 ...........
4.8
1988 ...........
4.8
1989 ...........
4.7
1990 ...........
4.7
1991 ...........
4.7
1992 ...........
4.8
1993 ...........
4.6
1994 ...........
4.6
1995 ...........
4.4
1996 ...........
4.3
1997 ...........
4.3
1998 ..........
4.2
1999 ..........
4.1
2000 ..........
4.2
2001 ..........
4.0

Notice how it climbed in teh 70's, peaking in the first couple years of the 80's, which was a big recession, and then dropped, along with the economy, until the recession in 1992, when it trended up for a year, then it dropped throughout the rest of the 90's, with the economy doing really well.

I tried finding info after 2001, but couldn't find anything this specific... however, I found were Indonesia studies have concluded that Finances and infidelity are the main causes of divorce there. http://familylaw.typepad.com/stats/2007/04/indonesia_chang.html

Frustrating, I can't find any charts from 2001 through 2008. Though my guess is that it diminished over the decade some, then rose a bit in the last 18 months or so... but again, that is just a guess.

HometownGal
04-08-2009, 07:22 AM
i read the actual article where this kids closest friends actually spoke out to what was most likely his motive.

as for this thread.... to see it blamed on the 'economy', just strikes me as bunk. :noidea:

those are my opinions and i am sticking to them.

if you wish, i wont belabor the point no further. but if anyone presses with the bullshit, i may feel compelled to offer up my opinion on the matter.

I've read many articles in the past couple of days on that subject and know what his friends said. Again - no one made an issue of what was said on this board. My point here is that there is no reason to drag Obama or politics into THIS thread when those topics have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You are always entitled to your opinions, of course, and all I am asking is that we keep this thread on its original topic of a man and woman being shot in their Pine Township home.

I'm not singling you out here - this request is directed at everyone who reads this thread.

Thanks! :drink: