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Steel-Bryan
04-09-2009, 07:30 PM
Do you think Santonio is going to be returning kicks this season, or do you think we're gunna be safe and take him off Special Teams? :noidea:

AllD
04-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Once a WR has a break out season he does not do returns unless there is an emergency or despiration necessity.

HometownGal
04-09-2009, 07:58 PM
Do you think Santonio is going to be returning kicks this season, or do you think we're gunna be safe and take him off Special Teams? :noidea:

Stefan Logan was signed as a kick/punt return man so we'll see what he does in camp and in the pre-season.

Steel-Bryan
04-09-2009, 08:01 PM
Stefan Logan was signed as a kick/punt return man so we'll see what he does in camp and in the pre-season.

isnt he that canadian player ?

The Duke
04-09-2009, 08:02 PM
Let's see....

we have Logan ( can he play in the NFL?), Moore ( with running backs healthy he can concentrate more on returns), and probably some rookie returner, who are never guarantees

If none of this work then we'll probably see santo back there at times. and I still see him getting a few touches like last year anyway, just to try and spark the offense, like in the bolts playoff game

Fire Haley
04-09-2009, 08:18 PM
We need a KR - git er done.

The less hits the better to our Super Bowl MVP.

That's what Coach Killer says.

http://www.footblog.com/images/santonio_holmes_rpphotos014901-MFSB18-superbowl.jpg

Mizark70
04-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Id hope they wouldnt let him take a risk. We need another player like Randle El back there. What ever happened to Rossum?

Mizark70
04-09-2009, 11:27 PM
He signed with the 49ers and had the best year in his CAREER returning kicks :banging:. Oh well. Hopefully Stefan Logan does well for us. Didnt he sign with us for two years? That must mean the FO sees something nice in him. Im thinking that were going to get at least one CB or WR in the draft that can also play as a PR/KR. Guess we gotta wait and see.

Yeah Rossom did well with us. and i agree, im sure they will draft a cb or wr in the later rounds that will work at returning kicks.

surcalifero
04-10-2009, 12:05 AM
Roscoe Parrish from the Bills are looking to shop him around...I say we snatch him and make him return kicks and battle it out with Limas Sweed for the 3rd receiver spot.

MexicanSteeler
04-10-2009, 12:49 AM
this is not part of this topic but, what happened to Russell?? is he going to be our KR next season?? or he would be the FB?? or is not here anymore?

tony hipchest
04-10-2009, 12:54 AM
hes here (for now atleast).

he is just a stop gap as returner and will not be a full back (too small).

Galax Steeler
04-10-2009, 06:55 AM
I hope we get somone else returning kicks for us this year. Yes I do like Holmes ruturning kicks, but just the thought of him going out with a season ending injury that would just plain suck.

Fire Haley
04-10-2009, 10:24 AM
Roscoe Parrish from the Bills are looking to shop him around...I say we snatch him and make him return kicks and battle it out with Limas Sweed for the 3rd receiver spot.

I like Parrish as a return man but he sucks as a WR - he's a one-trick pony.

A 5th rd pick might be OK. He's a luxury spot as a punt returner.

steelreserve
04-10-2009, 11:44 AM
He's been the best punt-returning threat we've had since Randle El, and seems to have gotten over the fumbling problem. I don't see a problem with keeping him there.

I don't think you get your ass kicked on punt returns as often as kick returns. You usually see a punt returner take a couple of big hits a year - which is less than he takes as a receiver - and it's mostly because of unfortunate timing where the ball gets there a quarter-second ahead of the coverage guy who broke free. The rest of the time he gets arm-tackled by a defensive back who's also trying to fight off a blocker who's been nagging him all the way downfield.

You also don't get the big dogpiles like on kick returns, because all 11 guys aren't trying to run down the field and make the tackle at the same time. It's usually one or two guys at a time who have a shot at the ball, not five or six. Which is why on punt returns, you're dodging pass rushers and defensive backs and they're trying to make arm tackles, instead of a kick return where you're looking for a seam while the tight ends and middle linebackers are trying to tee off on you.

BehindSteelCurtain
04-11-2009, 12:28 AM
When you think about that Stefan Logan guy, there is a reason why he was in the CFL and not the NFL.

Steelman16
04-11-2009, 12:35 AM
There's also a reason why the Steelers took a hard look at him and brought him onto the team.

SunshineMan21
04-11-2009, 12:38 AM
When you think about that Stefan Logan guy, there is a reason why he was in the CFL and not the NFL.

Because he didn't play at a football factory and he's old. I'm not going to hate on him before he's even gotten his chance--we must have seen something in him.

Also, while I don't think it's a good idea for Holmes to return kicks, it certainly wouldn't be unheard of for a starting WR. Steve Smith returned punts while being arguably the best wideout in the game. Wes Welker returns punts. It's actually quite common.

steelerdave1969
04-11-2009, 04:49 PM
I think the Steelers must find someone to take the job and run with it so we havent got to worry about him getting hurt out there on special teams. Its kind of like LB James Harrison, he needs to be on the sideline getting ready for his next run at sacks ...

Steel-Bryan
04-11-2009, 05:00 PM
We signed him for two years. There's a reason he's been signed for two. It means the FO thinks he's not here to just take up a roster spot.

:yikes:

Steel-Bryan
04-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Believe it or not, he just might become another pleasant undrafted surprise like Dan Kreider, Willie Parker, and James Harrison :tt02:

are there any CFL highlights of him ?

Steel-Bryan
04-11-2009, 09:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUcADvFCjHE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxxFsOBRqmE&feature=related

on that second one, look at run #6, Stefan logan has a 65 yrd run

BrandonCarr39
04-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Do you think Santonio is going to be returning kicks this season, or do you think we're gunna be safe and take him off Special Teams? :noidea:

FWIW - our coaching staff will likely be putting Terrence Newman back on PRs now that Pacman is gone(Despite Newman being our 2nd best D player behind Ware - our fan base has been scratching our heads why the coaching staffs still keep him out there).

Steelman16
04-11-2009, 11:20 PM
Thanks, i couldnt find a decent clip of him. Looks like he has pretty nice initial burst, and more than adequate wiggle room, which im just judging by the way he handled the defensers. Doesnt behave like a total speed guy, at what, 185lbs? He doesnt juke and cut hard constantly in crowded space. He just runs through the hole and lets his north and south speed break tackles. Maybe we could stick him in the backfield after all. But his 2nd,3rd gear didnt look too great right there when he got caught by slower hogeys. That's my little analysis, anyone want to chip in?

Looks like he could get further past the 20 than Russell or Davis. :chuckle:

Not great speed...unless that dude with the hair is just outrageously fast, but for a smaller guy, he shook off those arm tackles fairly easily. Good looking burst.

Not exactly sure where he'd find roster space to fit. Maybe cut "jack of no trades" Davis?

BehindSteelCurtain
04-11-2009, 11:28 PM
He's the Steelers version of Darren Sproles. Logan is 5'7.

steelreserve
04-13-2009, 03:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUcADvFCjHE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxxFsOBRqmE&feature=related

on that second one, look at run #6, Stefan logan has a 65 yrd run

Dude ... the CFL doesn't have very good highlights.

Boomerang
04-13-2009, 05:32 AM
No, take a closer look. Sproles has way more north and south speed, and relies more on his quickness. Stefan seemed to barrel through loose tackles on that play, he actually made it look quite effortless, especially for a guy his size. But then again, im sure CFL players are smaller. That clip tells us that he's not THAT much of a scatback. He's going to be an interesting kid.

Not quiet a Sproles but an interesting player to watch how he develops.

PeckerWood
04-13-2009, 07:45 PM
What I've read on Stefan Logan,

5'6" 185lbs RB South Dakota 4.42

2003 freshman year rushed for 1'155 yards and 5 TDs

Sophomore year rushed for 1'345 yards 3 TDs caught 19 passes for 179 yards 1 TD

Junior year rushed for 1,751 yards 11 TDs 26 catches for 428 yards 2 TDs

Senior year rushed for 1,707 yards 9 TDs 153 yards 2 TDs as a receiver

Averaged 15.9 yards per punt, 28.2 yards per kick return

Also was a sprinter on the track team.

In the NFL Logan has the talent to become an excellent 3rd down back and return specialist.

Well built for a player his size, but a very small frame overall.

Logan has the explosiveness to make it in the NFL, in a similar role to Darren Sproles or Dante Hall. He has the all around skills as a runner, reciever, and return man to provide a variety of roles a player of his size has to be capable of. His are and playing at a lower level of competition may keep Logan from being drafted, but he could be a player that makes a team out of training camp.

I think he made the right choice going to the CFL and letting NFL scout see what he might be able to do in the NFL.

People here might wine its the CFL but the CFL has stronger, older and more experienced players than DIV 1 college football football players.

2008
rushing
122 ATT 889 YARDS 7.3 AVG
receiving
52CATCHES 477 YARDS 9.2 AVG 31 LONG 3TDs

"Joystick" the nickname BC Lions players bestowed on Logan last season, has a habit of getting upfield so fast that he's gone before it registers. "There are times when you don't even have to block for him," Lions tackle Rob Murphy said in November "They can't catch him. He's special.