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Fire Haley
04-15-2009, 01:50 PM
The match-up

1 Wednesday, April 15, 7pm et Flyers @ Penguins
2 Friday, April 17, 7pm et Flyers @ Penguins
3 Sunday, April 19, 3pm et Penguins @ Flyers
4 Tuesday, April 21, 7pm et Penguins @ Flyers
*5 Thursday, April 23, 7pm et Flyers @ Penguins
*6 Saturday, April 25, 3pm et Penguins @ Flyers
*7 Monday, April 27, TBA Flyers @ Penguins

PHILADELPHIA FLYERS

Regular Season Record: 44-27-11, 99 pts
Head-to-Head Record: 2-4
Last Stanley Cup Win: 1975
Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 1997
Last Postseason Appearance: 2008
Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Mike Knuble (1)

A reason to cheer for the Flyers: The Flyers finished last in the Eastern Conference two years ago with 56 points, they then improved to sixth last year with 95 points, and this season almost reached the 100-point mark. GM Paul Holmgren has turned the ship around very quickly in Philly and all they need is a long, successful playoff run to make it all worthwhile.

What They Bring To The Table: The Flyers are a team loaded with depth on offense. They're one of just two clubs in the NHL to have four players score 30 or more goals in a season (Detroit is the other), with Jeff Carter leading the way. Captain Mike Richards, one of the premier two-way players in the league, led all Flyers with 84 points (12th in the league) and is one of the league's top penalty killers and shorthanded scorers. Simon Gagne returned to form after battling back from a season-ending concussion last year, while Daniel Briere - limited to 25 games this season because of groin problems - is always an offensive threat as long as he's healthy and back on his game. Goaltending has been a big issue with the Flyers, who will likely lean on Martin Biron. The former Buffalo Sabre hadn't even started a playoff game prior to last season, but had a solid postseason campaign and will be looking to build on that.

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Regular Season Record: 45-28-9, 99 pts
Head-to-Head Record: 4-2
Last Stanley Cup Win: 1992
Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 2008
Last Postseason Appearance: 2008
Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Chris Kunitz (1), Bill Guerin (1), Petr Sykora (1), Ruslan Fedotenko (1), Craig Adams (1)

A reason to cheer for the Penguins: The Penguins were just shy of capturing their third Stanley Cup in franchise history last year and nothing short of finishing the job this spring will be acceptable. Those high hopes are remarkable considering that just a couple of months ago, pundits were wondering if this team would even make the playoffs. With new coach Dan Bylsma at the helm and Evgeni Malkin making his case for the Hart Trophy (finishing first in league scoring and leading all Penguins players in scoring for the second consecutive season), Pittsburgh is back in the contenders' conversation.

What They Bring To The Table: While trade deadline acquisitions Chris Kunitz and veteran winger Bill Guerin don't have the same level of talent that Marian Hossa brought last year, they do add plenty of grit and experience while filling the scoring void on the wing that the club needed most of the season. The Penguins also have solid character players like Pascal Dupuis and Maxime Talbot, who are always ready to provide energy and support for the blueliners. The club had to give up a good offensive defenceman in Ryan Whitney, but have enough depth with the return of power play specialist Sergei Gonchar and the emergence of young Kris Letang. Goaltending is everything in the postseason, and Marc-Andre Fleury should be solid in goal if he builds on last spring's postseason run.

Statistical keys to the series

- Pittsburgh ranked 20th in the league on the power play, with a 17.2% success rate. Philadelphia ranked sixth at 22.5%.

- Pittsburgh ranked eighth in the league in penalty killing, with an 82.7% success rate. Philadelphia ranked sixth at 83.0%.

- Brooks Orpik (309), Matt Cooke (262) and Chris Kunitz (207) are the Penguins' leading hitters. Kunitz's totals include games with Anaheim.

- Andrew Alberts (157), Daniel Carcillo (151) and Mike Richards (147) are the Flyers' leading hitters. Carcillo's totals include games with Phoenix.

- Sidney Crosby is the Penguins' top face-off man -- 51.3%.

- Mike Richards is the Flyers' top face-off man -- 49.0%.

- Philadelphia's Jeff Carter ranked second in the league with 46 goals.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and Sidney Crosby ranked first and second in the league with 78 and 70 assists, respectively.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and Sidney Crosby ranked first and third in the league with 113 and 103 points, respectively.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin tied for eighth in the league with 14 power play goals.

- Philadelphia's Mike Richards led the league with seven shorthanded goals. Simon Gagne and Jeff Carter tied for fourth with four shorthanded goals.

- Philadelphia's Jeff Carter led the league with 12 game-winning goals. Pittsburgh's Petr Sykora ranked third in the league with 10 game-winning goals.

- Philadelphia's Jeff Carter ranked fourth in the league with 342 shots on goal. Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin ranked 10th with 290 shots on goal.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin led the league with 94 takeaways.

- Sidney Crosby led the Penguins with nine points in six games against the Flyers this year.

- Jeff Carter led the Flyers with eight points in six games against the Penguins this year.

- Pittsburgh's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Sergei Gonchar 6:14
Evgeni Malkin 5:33
Sidney Crosby 5:22
Bill Guerin 3:55*
Petr Sykora 3:44
Kristopher Letang 3:35
* Guerin's totals include time with the N.Y. Islanders.

- Philadelphia's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Kimmo Timonen 4:04
Daniel Briere 3:22
Mike Richards 3:20
Simon Gagne 3:12
Mike Knuble 2:54
Jeff Carter 2:43
Braydon Coburn 2:43

- Pittsburgh's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Rob Scuderi 3:47
Jordan Staal 3:31
Hal Gill 3:10
Mark Eaton 2:45
Pascal Dupuis 2:40
Maxime Talbot 2:40

- Philadelphia's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Kimmo Timonen 4:39
Braydon Coburn 3:50
Mike Richards 3:12
Jeff Carter 3:03
Ryan Parent 2:36
Andrew Alberts 2:28

trauben
04-15-2009, 02:32 PM
It's a new season.......
with a new coach.........
and a whole new fight for Lord Stanley's Cup!

http://www.anr.state.vt.us/site/html/VSCC/images/TEAM_HUSSTS-504_penguin.gif
LET'S GO PENS

Steel Head
04-15-2009, 02:57 PM
The match-up

1 Wednesday, April 15, 7pm et Flyers @ Penguins
2 Friday, April 17, 7pm et Flyers @ Penguins
3 Sunday, April 19, 3pm et Penguins @ Flyers
4 Tuesday, April 21, 7pm et Penguins @ Flyers
*5 Thursday, April 23, 7pm et Flyers @ Penguins
*6 Saturday, April 25, 3pm et Penguins @ Flyers
*7 Monday, April 27, TBA Flyers @ Penguins

PHILADELPHIA FLYERS

Regular Season Record: 44-27-11, 99 pts
Head-to-Head Record: 2-4
Last Stanley Cup Win: 1975
Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 1997
Last Postseason Appearance: 2008
Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Mike Knuble (1)

A reason to cheer for the Flyers: The Flyers finished last in the Eastern Conference two years ago with 56 points, they then improved to sixth last year with 95 points, and this season almost reached the 100-point mark. GM Paul Holmgren has turned the ship around very quickly in Philly and all they need is a long, successful playoff run to make it all worthwhile.

What They Bring To The Table: The Flyers are a team loaded with depth on offense. They're one of just two clubs in the NHL to have four players score 30 or more goals in a season (Detroit is the other), with Jeff Carter leading the way. Captain Mike Richards, one of the premier two-way players in the league, led all Flyers with 84 points (12th in the league) and is one of the league's top penalty killers and shorthanded scorers. Simon Gagne returned to form after battling back from a season-ending concussion last year, while Daniel Briere - limited to 25 games this season because of groin problems - is always an offensive threat as long as he's healthy and back on his game. Goaltending has been a big issue with the Flyers, who will likely lean on Martin Biron. The former Buffalo Sabre hadn't even started a playoff game prior to last season, but had a solid postseason campaign and will be looking to build on that.

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Regular Season Record: 45-28-9, 99 pts
Head-to-Head Record: 4-2
Last Stanley Cup Win: 1992
Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 2008
Last Postseason Appearance: 2008
Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Chris Kunitz (1), Bill Guerin (1), Petr Sykora (1), Ruslan Fedotenko (1), Craig Adams (1)

A reason to cheer for the Penguins: The Penguins were just shy of capturing their third Stanley Cup in franchise history last year and nothing short of finishing the job this spring will be acceptable. Those high hopes are remarkable considering that just a couple of months ago, pundits were wondering if this team would even make the playoffs. With new coach Dan Bylsma at the helm and Evgeni Malkin making his case for the Hart Trophy (finishing first in league scoring and leading all Penguins players in scoring for the second consecutive season), Pittsburgh is back in the contenders' conversation.

What They Bring To The Table: While trade deadline acquisitions Chris Kunitz and veteran winger Bill Guerin don't have the same level of talent that Marian Hossa brought last year, they do add plenty of grit and experience while filling the scoring void on the wing that the club needed most of the season. The Penguins also have solid character players like Pascal Dupuis and Maxime Talbot, who are always ready to provide energy and support for the blueliners. The club had to give up a good offensive defenceman in Ryan Whitney, but have enough depth with the return of power play specialist Sergei Gonchar and the emergence of young Kris Letang. Goaltending is everything in the postseason, and Marc-Andre Fleury should be solid in goal if he builds on last spring's postseason run.

Statistical keys to the series

- Pittsburgh ranked 20th in the league on the power play, with a 17.2% success rate. Philadelphia ranked sixth at 22.5%.

- Pittsburgh ranked eighth in the league in penalty killing, with an 82.7% success rate. Philadelphia ranked sixth at 83.0%.

- Brooks Orpik (309), Matt Cooke (262) and Chris Kunitz (207) are the Penguins' leading hitters. Kunitz's totals include games with Anaheim.

- Andrew Alberts (157), Daniel Carcillo (151) and Mike Richards (147) are the Flyers' leading hitters. Carcillo's totals include games with Phoenix.

- Sidney Crosby is the Penguins' top face-off man -- 51.3%.

- Mike Richards is the Flyers' top face-off man -- 49.0%.

- Philadelphia's Jeff Carter ranked second in the league with 46 goals.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and Sidney Crosby ranked first and second in the league with 78 and 70 assists, respectively.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and Sidney Crosby ranked first and third in the league with 113 and 103 points, respectively.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin tied for eighth in the league with 14 power play goals.

- Philadelphia's Mike Richards led the league with seven shorthanded goals. Simon Gagne and Jeff Carter tied for fourth with four shorthanded goals.

- Philadelphia's Jeff Carter led the league with 12 game-winning goals. Pittsburgh's Petr Sykora ranked third in the league with 10 game-winning goals.

- Philadelphia's Jeff Carter ranked fourth in the league with 342 shots on goal. Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin ranked 10th with 290 shots on goal.

- Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin led the league with 94 takeaways.

- Sidney Crosby led the Penguins with nine points in six games against the Flyers this year.

- Jeff Carter led the Flyers with eight points in six games against the Penguins this year.

- Pittsburgh's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Sergei Gonchar 6:14
Evgeni Malkin 5:33
Sidney Crosby 5:22
Bill Guerin 3:55*
Petr Sykora 3:44
Kristopher Letang 3:35
* Guerin's totals include time with the N.Y. Islanders.

- Philadelphia's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Kimmo Timonen 4:04
Daniel Briere 3:22
Mike Richards 3:20
Simon Gagne 3:12
Mike Knuble 2:54
Jeff Carter 2:43
Braydon Coburn 2:43

- Pittsburgh's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Rob Scuderi 3:47
Jordan Staal 3:31
Hal Gill 3:10
Mark Eaton 2:45
Pascal Dupuis 2:40
Maxime Talbot 2:40

- Philadelphia's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Kimmo Timonen 4:39
Braydon Coburn 3:50
Mike Richards 3:12
Jeff Carter 3:03
Ryan Parent 2:36
Andrew Alberts 2:28

i think the Pens will win :chuckle:

Fire Haley
04-15-2009, 03:39 PM
Did you really need to quote all that?

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 04:27 PM
Did you really need to quote all that?

That was my thought, as well. :chuckle:

This series is not going to be a walk in the park - it's going to be a tough, hard-hitting physical series. My money's on the Pens because simply put - I feel they are the more talented team of the two.

LETS GO PENS!!! :applaudit::tt03:

Fire Haley
04-15-2009, 04:37 PM
Fleury needs to be a God.

Make it so.

X-Terminator
04-15-2009, 04:48 PM
Wow, for all the talk about how physical the Flyers are, their leading hitter only had 157 hits? Meanwhile, the Pens had 3 guys with over 200 hits and Orpik was 2nd in the league with his 309 hits. OK, the Flyers had 76 fighting majors this season to the Pens' 34, but that only means they fight more. The Pens sure as hell aren't going to back away from the physical play - in fact, I think they're going to initiate it, especially against their soft D corps. Andrew Alberts is the only guy they have who is anything resembling a physical presence on defense.

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 06:11 PM
OK Pens - time to rock 'n roll! :banana:

Edman
04-15-2009, 06:19 PM
Power Play for the Pens!

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 06:20 PM
Sid shoots and scores!!!! Pens up 1-0!! :applaudit::hatsoff:

Goal is being reviewed.

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 06:23 PM
IT'S A GOAL!!!!!

P.S. May the Pens embed Hartnell's face into the plexiglass regularly tonight. :thumbsup:

Crushzilla
04-15-2009, 06:23 PM
Ohhhh man.

Let the whining begin!

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 06:40 PM
IT'S A GOAL!!!!!

P.S. May the Pens embed Hartnell's face into the plexiglass regularly tonight. :thumbsup:

not just tonight, i hope all series

i was sitting in the tidbits thread waiting to see some1 else in there to start posting, guess the IN crowd hangs out in this thread

great start to the game, Pens showing a lot of energy, major momentum boost if we can kill this penalty

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 06:40 PM
These refs SUCK!!!!!! :mad:

Cooke is mugged with a stick and is bleeding from the nose and mouth and nothing is called, but Orpik is called for a bogus interference call. :mad:

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 06:41 PM
not just tonight, i hope all series

i was sitting in the tidbits thread waiting to see some1 else in there to start posting, guess the IN crowd hangs out in this thread

great start to the game, Pens showing a lot of energy, major momentum boost if we can kill this penalty


Glad to have you hear p8b! :drink:

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 06:51 PM
Great Play by Mark Eaton!!!!!

then hartnell pulling his usually stunt, same thing he did after the shootout that one night.

there hasnt been a line tonight that i havent been impressed with all four bringing energy and scoring chances

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 07:02 PM
Great Play by Mark Eaton!!!!!

then hartnell pulling his usually stunt, same thing he did after the shootout that one night.

there hasnt been a line tonight that i havent been impressed with all four bringing energy and scoring chances


They played a really good 1st period! :applaudit: Everyone is bringing their "A" game thus far, including Fleury.

Hey - is Goddard dressed tonight?

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 07:06 PM
They played a really good 1st period! :applaudit: Everyone is bringing their "A" game thus far, including Fleury.

Hey - is Goddard dressed tonight?

No, Adams is dressed tonight and helped set up a good scoring opportunity with dupuis early in the game. i am def thinking we are gonna need godard in the line up sometime in the series, its only a matter of time before this gets really out of control

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 07:12 PM
No, Adams is dressed tonight and helped set up a good scoring opportunity with dupuis early in the game. i am def thinking we are gonna need godard in the line up sometime in the series, its only a matter of time before this gets really out of control

Overall, I haven't been impressed with Adams. He makes a good play here and there, but he isn't consistent. I'd much prefer Satan - speaking of which, wasn't he recalled for the playoffs?

Oh I totally agree about Goddard - we need that physical presence in this series.

WOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

TK scores the Pens 2nd goal of the night! :banana: :applaudit:

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 07:14 PM
2-0 Pens!!!!

TK on the 3-1!!!

Lets Go Pens!!

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 07:18 PM
Overall, I haven't been impressed with Adams. He makes a good play here and there, but he isn't consistent. I'd much prefer Satan - speaking of which, wasn't he recalled for the playoffs?

Oh I totally agree about Goddard - we need that physical presence in this series.

WOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

TK scores the Pens 2nd goal of the night! :banana: :applaudit:

if we want physical presence, then i would stay clear of Satan even if we are up 3-0.

Adams hasnt been to impressive but brings experience, and has been solid tonight.

Lets get another PP goal!!!

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 07:35 PM
A little scoreboard update

New Jersey beating Carolina 2-0

Rangers up on the Caps 3-1

and our Pirates down 4-0 to the 1-6 Astros

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 07:48 PM
another good period for the Pens.

Staal played a great period, he was all over the ice. its so good we have three lines (four tonight) that can go out and creat some scoring chances

Edman
04-15-2009, 07:54 PM
Craps score. Rags are now up 3-2.

The Penguins need to get rid of the Flyers threat. Now is not the name to throw away a lead.

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 07:54 PM
I, too, have been very impressed with the Pens play through the first 2. :thumbsup: They're bringing it on every shift and not allowing the Flyers many SOG. They've got to keep up this intensity in the 3rd and put at least another 1-2 behind Biron.

LETS GO PENS! :tt03:

Steelman16
04-15-2009, 08:05 PM
I have a quick question...

During a powerplay, can the the non PP team attempt to score?

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 08:14 PM
Geno scores the Pens goal #3! :banana:

FLYERS SUCK!

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 08:14 PM
I have a quick question...

During a powerplay, can the the non PP team attempt to score?

oh ya, im pretty sure the flyers scored the most shorthanded (when ur not on the Power Play) goals in the NHL, Mike Richards had like 7 on his own. its just that ur already one man down and u dont want to get caught up ice when u are already down a man, so most of the time they just dump it down the ice

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 08:14 PM
I have a quick question...

During a powerplay, can the the non PP team attempt to score?

Absolutely. It's called a short-handed goal.

Steelman16
04-15-2009, 08:24 PM
Thanks HTG. Always liked hockey, but never really got into the game as much.


Eaton scores #4! :thumbsup:

Crushzilla
04-15-2009, 08:24 PM
I have a quick question...

During a powerplay, can the the non PP team attempt to score?

Penalty killers traditionally will only try and clear the puck; which is why it seems like there isn't much interest in the short handed goal.

The real objective is to just get your man back without giving up a goal.

Edman
04-15-2009, 08:33 PM
No shutout tonight. 4-1 Pens.

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 08:35 PM
Hockey 101

Whe trying to clear the puck over the middle of the ice, you MUST get that puck high in the air ala Larry Murphy!!!

Edman
04-15-2009, 08:39 PM
Rags beat the Caps 4-3!

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 08:47 PM
Great game by our Pens! :thumbsup:

Don't think I've ever seen so many cheap shots by a team than those issued by the Flyers tonight. There were many that weren't called, but I was glad to see the refs take control of things especially in the 3rd. On the very last faceoff, Carcillo punched Talbot in the head. I have a feeling Talbot will return the favor at some point.

GREAT START GUYS!!! Let's carry that momentum into Game #2 on Friday night!

pittsburghp8baller
04-15-2009, 08:49 PM
Great game by our Pens! :thumbsup:

Don't think I've ever seen so many cheap shots by a team than those issued by the Flyers tonight. There were many that weren't called, but I was glad to see the refs take control of things especially in the 3rd. On the very last faceoff, Carcillo punched Talbot in the head. I have a feeling Talbot will return the favor at some point.

GREAT START GUYS!!! Let's carry that momentum into Game #2 on Friday night!

am i the only one that wouldnt be surprised if Eric Godard is out there to start game 2?

great start to the series, Flyers are stupid if they think that there little cheap shots are gonna scare us.

Steelman16
04-15-2009, 08:49 PM
Watched the last half or so of the game. Good game by the Pens. :thumbsup:

KeiselPower99
04-15-2009, 08:52 PM
Awesome game by the Pens!!!! Philly playing like a bunch of goons nice to see Guerin get him back a lil in the end. 1 down 3 to go.

HometownGal
04-15-2009, 09:37 PM
am i the only one that wouldnt be surprised if Eric Godard is out there to start game 2?

great start to the series, Flyers are stupid if they think that there little cheap shots are gonna scare us.


Nope - not at all. I expect to see him in there - in fact, if he isn't in there on Friday night, I'm going to wonder what the hell Bylsma is thinking.

Another win on Friday night would surely knock the wind out of the Goon Squad. Having to slither back to Filthadelphia with their tails between their legs would be so sweet! :tt03:

Fire Haley
04-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Pens out-muscled the Flyers all game.

WAY too much speed for the old farts.

Now go make it 2-0.

X-Terminator
04-15-2009, 11:36 PM
Great game tonight - good for the Pens to get that first win out of the way at home.

The positives:

- Set the physical tone early. The Pens did a great job of initiating the physical contact from the drop of the puck. They were in the Flyers' faces all night and matched them hit for hit.

- Discipline. Initiate, but don't retaliate - they did it to near perfection tonight. Clearly the Flyers don't like it when a team takes it to them physically, and it showed in dumb penalty after dumb penalty (specifically by Scott Cheapnell), and their dirty play at the end of the game.

- Getting that first goal obviously was huge.

- Penalty killing. They were terrific again tonight, sans the Gagne PP goal, which was just a bad break. They were in shooting lanes all night and didn't allow the Flyers to crowd the front of the net. And when they did, Hal Gill and Co. were right there to get them out of Fleury's face.

- Defense/goaltending. Fleury didn't face a lot of quality scoring chances up until the 3rd period, but made key saves when he had to. The defense played very well, both physically and positionally, cleared the front of the net when needed and made safe, smart plays most of the night. The only blemish was on the Gagne PPG, but hey, shit happens sometimes.

- The third line. Staal, Kennedy and Cooke once again played an awesome game. They've arguably been the best line for the Pens over the past month. If they keep it up and chip in some goals, it'll take pressure off the top 2 lines to produce and make their jobs easier, not to mention make the Pens damn tough to beat.

The negatives: (c'mon, you knew they were coming :wink02:)

- Power play. If the Flyers are going to do their worst impersonation of the Broad Street Bullies and take stupid, undisciplined penalties, then the Pens need to make them pay on the PP. Going 1-7 got it done tonight, but it isn't going to get it done most other nights, and it needs to be better. They could have put the game away earlier had they gotten another PP goal on one of Cheapnell's several dumb penalties.

- Sykora. Invisible again tonight. He desperately needs to find his scoring touch again, and soon. They can't rely on Malkin to continue to carry the line every night. The man almost lost the scoring title in part because of Sykora's slump.

- Bylsma's decision to not dress Eric Godard in favor of Craig Adams. Well, we see how much good that did tonight. Adams played well, but while Bill Guerin gets mad props for stepping up, he should not have to be the one fighting when the Flyers started gooning it up. I expect to see Godard dressed on Friday night, and when he does, he'd better make a beeline for Cheapnell, so he can shit his pants again like he did the last time Godard took him to task for his BS. That was just another example of why the instigator penalty needs to be abolished, so that Cheapnell, Carcillo (who used to be Pens' property) and Arron Asham can't get away with that crap.

All in all, a solid game by the Pens, and they'll need to be even better Friday night, because the Flyers will be bringing everything and the kitchen sink to try to get a win.

OneForTheToe
04-16-2009, 12:03 AM
That was a geat game tonight. I have a felling this will be the least stressful game in this series. The Flyers are going to be nasty on Friday and hopefully the Pens will continue to show restraint. The Flyers will not beat the Pen's in this series unless the Pens beat the Pens.

trauben
04-16-2009, 08:11 AM
Fleury needs to be a God.
He sure appeared that way last night. It sucks that his penalty is when they scored. Oh well. :noidea:
IT'S A GOAL!!!!!

P.S. May the Pens embed Hartnell's face into the plexiglass regularly tonight.
Hartnell......... quite frankly I hope he keeps this up in this series. Their penalties cost them and I hope he doesn't learn from it and stays "emotional" on the ice. :thumbsup:

Ohhhh man.

Let the whining begin!
They only have a right to whine if the score remained 1-0 (not that their whining would have been justified either). But when you're outplayed and out-muscled all night long both physically and in the score? They have no right to a damned thing!

Cooke is mugged with a stick and is bleeding from the nose and mouth and nothing is called, but Orpik is called for a bogus interference call. :mad:
That was great if only that it got us more fired up.

GREAT START TO THE PLAYOFFS! I was glad to see our top two scorers get goals and it was good to see Kennedy get his first playoff goal as well!

Fedetanko wants to hit anyone and anything wearing black and orange. LOL

Round two on Friday. :tt03:

X-Terminator
04-16-2009, 08:46 AM
Ohhhh man.

Let the whining begin!

Of course. I've boycotted the hockey board I'm on for this series for that reason alone. I'd probably completely lose it on some crybaby jackass and end up being banned. And since Bettman was in the crowd last night and praised the Pens' franchise...well, that just adds to the conspiracy in their minds. :jerkit:

These refs SUCK!!!!!! :mad:

Cooke is mugged with a stick and is bleeding from the nose and mouth and nothing is called, but Orpik is called for a bogus interference call. :mad:

Which of course will get nothing more than a nod and wink from Flyers fans and Penguins haters. I'm still looking for the two "elbows" called on Orpik and Eaton.

Pens out-muscled the Flyers all game.

WAY too much speed for the old farts.

Now go make it 2-0.

The Penguins are actually the older team. The Flyers only have 5 players on the active roster over 30 - Timonen, Knuble, Briere, Asham and Biron. The Pens, however, have 13 - Gonchar, Sykora, Eaton, Fedotenko, Dupuis, Scuderi, Adams, Cooke, Satan, Boucher, Gill, Garon and Guerin.

trauben
04-16-2009, 08:49 AM
The Penguins are actually the older team.
What did they say our collective age is? 28.82 compared to the Flyers 26.68?

X-Terminator
04-16-2009, 08:58 AM
What did they say our collective age is? 28.82 compared to the Flyers 26.68?

Flyers: 26.6
Pens: 29.1

Fire Haley
04-16-2009, 09:41 AM
Sid Geno Staal - that's our team.


Pen Clobber Cryers.

Write that headline down bitches.

Steel Head
04-16-2009, 09:53 AM
Typical Flyers, get dominated in the game then take a bunch of cheapshots after the game is decided

they are a total embarassment to the NHL

pathetic

trauben
04-16-2009, 09:57 AM
Sid Geno Staal - that's our team.
Oh no it's not!

You forgot the Flower! You can't forget the Flower!!!!! :wink02:

Fire Haley
04-16-2009, 10:20 AM
Nitpickers.

vasteeler
04-16-2009, 10:39 AM
i guess this probably is not the time to admit this but I have been a Flyers fan for about 30 years now.

GO FLYERS

stlrtruck
04-16-2009, 10:47 AM
i guess this probably is not the time to admit this but I have been a Flyers fan for about 30 years now.

GO FLYERS

You and my brother. How in the world do you know good when it comes to choosing football teams but clueless when choosing hockey teams? :rofl:

Just busting your balls. I'd say goodluck but I don't mean it so :drink:

Fire Haley
04-16-2009, 10:48 AM
I only have one thing to say.

Hartnell is a giant douche.

trauben
04-16-2009, 11:58 AM
Nitpickers.
That's not "nitpicking" when you forget your premier goal tender. :hatsoff:

X-Terminator
04-16-2009, 03:56 PM
i guess this probably is not the time to admit this but I have been a Flyers fan for about 30 years now.

GO FLYERS

I'll give you a pass only because you're a Steelers fan. But I hope you're not here to whine endlessly about some kind of "conspiracy" between the league and the Pens, about how they allegedly get every call, like I hear from most other Flyers fans. I've really had my fill of it. It is, was, and always will be :bs:

Fire Haley
04-16-2009, 05:51 PM
The goons get called out., let the Crying begin.

FLYERS' CARCILLO SUSPENDED ONE GAME FOR INCIDENT VERSUS PENS

The NHL handed Philadelphia Flyers tough guy Daniel Carcillo a one-game suspension for his role in an incident in the waning moments of Game 1 of the Flyers first round playoff series with the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Carcillo appeared to deliver a butt-end to the face of Pens' forward Maxime Talbot as time expired in Pittsburgh's 4-1 victory in the series opener. No penalty was given at the time of the incident, however the league reviewed the play and held a hearing with Carcillo earlier Thursday afternoon.

Prior to the start of the playoffs, the NHL told all coaches and general managers there was to be "no message sending" late in games where the score had been decided. Carcillo's presence on the ice at that stage of the contest combined with the contact with Talbot could be considered "message sending."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=275244

X-Terminator
04-16-2009, 07:15 PM
The goons get called out., let the Crying begin.

FLYERS' CARCILLO SUSPENDED ONE GAME FOR INCIDENT VERSUS PENS

The NHL handed Philadelphia Flyers tough guy Daniel Carcillo a one-game suspension for his role in an incident in the waning moments of Game 1 of the Flyers first round playoff series with the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Carcillo appeared to deliver a butt-end to the face of Pens' forward Maxime Talbot as time expired in Pittsburgh's 4-1 victory in the series opener. No penalty was given at the time of the incident, however the league reviewed the play and held a hearing with Carcillo earlier Thursday afternoon.

Prior to the start of the playoffs, the NHL told all coaches and general managers there was to be "no message sending" late in games where the score had been decided. Carcillo's presence on the ice at that stage of the contest combined with the contact with Talbot could be considered "message sending."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=275244

Three things:

1. I just watched the replay of the end of the game and it was definitely a cheap-ass butt-end, and deserved the suspension.

2. The "no message sending" rule is just another way for the league to legislate emotion and aggressiveness out of the game. Someone want to tell me what's wrong with sending a message (without blatant cheap shots like Carcillo did) at the end of a game? Because their might be a little bit of *gasp* emotion or, Heaven forbid, a fight? Colin Campbell wondered why nobody fights in the playoffs anymore? Stupid edicts like this is why. Punish the guys who get out of line. Don't punish the guys who show a little emotion and might want to drop the gloves to send a message. God, I hate Bettman and what he's done to the sport! I don't want more Detroit Red Wing-type Euro pansy teams, I want a return to physical, North American, REAL hockey!

3. Thank GOD I decided not to spend more than 1 second per day over at the hockey message board I'm on, just long enough to post the gameday threads, because I can already hear the crying and whining about Carcillo's suspension from the Flyers fans. It was deserved. Period.

Fire Haley
04-16-2009, 10:09 PM
The Habs/Bruins game just turned into a brawl at the end too. Same thing.

ricksteelers55
04-17-2009, 12:19 AM
Being from montreal a lot of people expect me to be a fan of the habs,but i just hate them !!! I have to admit im also a fan of the orange and black flyers altough being a steelers fan i dont feel a rivalry with people from da burgh.I called Pittsburgh in 6 before the beginning of the series but could very well go in 5 the way we played game 1

good luck to the pens

go flyers

habs suck

trauben
04-17-2009, 06:15 AM
Being from montreal a lot of people expect me to be a fan of the habs,but i just hate them !!! I have to admit im also a fan of the orange and black flyers altough being a steelers fan i dont feel a rivalry with people from da burgh.I called Pittsburgh in 6 before the beginning of the series but could very well go in 5 the way we played game 1

good luck to the pens

go flyers

habs suck
Wow, that was gracious. I've got to hand it to you, maybe it's just the diehard Pittsburgher in me, but I couldn't wish the other team "good luck" in a playoff series/game. It goes against my very nature.

I was glad to see Carcillo get the boot for tonight! Well deserved! :thmbup:

Now we just have to be that physical and disciplined again tonight and watch Harnell go ballistic out of frustration and cost his team some more penalty goals.

BTW: My daughter is up in Toronto today touring the Hockey HOF with her high school band. I didn't think of it until today when I was texting her this morning and asked if she was wearing Pens gear and representing her team well? Her answer? "LOL -- I'm your daughter -- of COURSE I'm wearing Sidney's jersey!" LOL, I had forgot to check if she was going to take something and sure enough, I raised her well! :tt02:

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 07:10 AM
Glad to see the league is cracking down on cheap shots, as there were plenty of them by the Flyers in Game #1. Not only did Carcillo get suspended for tonight's game, the Flyers coach got fined too. :toofunny::thumbsup::applaudit:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=418695

NHL suspends Carcillo one game, fines Flyers
Thursday, 04.16.2009

The NHL has suspended Philadelphia Flyers forward Daniel Carcillo one game and fined coach John Stevens $10,000 for his actions at the end of Wednesday night’s Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinal series against Pittsburgh, a game won by the Penguins, 4-1.

Carcillo got involved with the Penguins’ Max Talbot during a faceoff with seven seconds left in the game. Carcillo appeared to use the butt-end of his stick to strike Talbot in the head at the end of the regulation time. Talbot did not sustain an injury and no penalty was assessed.

"We had a conference call Monday with the General Managers and Coaches of playoff teams and told them explicitly we would not tolerate attempts by clubs to 'send a message' late in a game when the outcome had been determined," said Colin Campbell, NHL Senior Executive Vice Presidents of Hockey Operations. "Organizations – players and coaches – will be held accountable for such actions."

The Flyers acquired Carcillo, 24, at the trade deadline in exchange for Scottie Upshall and a 2011 second round draft pick. He scored 3 goals and 11 assists in 74 games this season, picking up 254 penalty minutes. He will miss Friday's Game 2 between the Flyers and Penguins in Pittsburgh.

SteelMember
04-17-2009, 07:29 AM
Glad to see the league is cracking down on cheap shots, as there were plenty of them by the Flyers in Game #1. Not only did Carcillo get suspended for tonight's game, the Flyers coach got fined too. :toofunny::thumbsup::applaudit:

I didn't like the cheap cross check that put Staal into the rail face-first in the waining minutes of the 3rd. The flyers have always played the "bruiser" role, but I thought we out-tuffed them in game 1. We were very composed with the lead and didn't fall for their intimidation tatics. I hope they maintain that mindset if they should be behind. Frustration leads to mental mistakes.

SteelMember
04-17-2009, 08:29 AM
Flyers ponder fewer minutes for Richards, Carter
Thursday, 04.16.2009 / 4:17 PM
2009 Playoffs Conference Quarterfinals By Adam Kimelman - NHL.com Staff Writer

"I think in terms of Richey, I think yesterday I did him a little bit of a disservice to be honest. He's arguably our best player and maybe I relied on him a bit too much. Getting in penalty trouble, he's a left-handed centerman we like to use there. I think we get into a situation now where Darroll Powe has developed where he could take some of those minutes."
-- John Stevens
PITTSBURGH -- One of the storylines of the first-round playoff series between the Flyers and Penguins is the battle between the Pens' top two players, Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, and the Flyers' best two, Mike Richards and Jeff Carter.

Both sets of players saw about the same amount of ice time this season. Malkin led all forwards in total minutes played (1,846:24), while Crosby ranked 13th (1,689:33). Richards (1,716:57) and Carter (1,718:17) both played in excess of 1,700 minutes, making the Flyers the only team to have two forwards among the 11 who played that many minutes.

A deeper look into the numbers shows why the Penguins had so much more jump in Game 1 than the Flyers. While the total ice time among each team's "Big Two" is similar, Carter and Richards play a far harder game in that they spend so much time on the penalty kill. Richards averaged 3:12 per game shorthanded, while Carter averaged 3:03; meanwhile, Malkin averaged just 1:04 per game shorthanded and Crosby just 57 seconds.

Richards and Carter had excellent seasons, but both seem to be wearing down from the stress of so many minutes. Their performances in Game 1 Wednesday night bear that out. Richards played 23:17 -- including 3:19 shorthanded -- and had just two shots. Carter played 17 minutes -- including 2:54 shorthanded -- and while he had eight shots, only three of them came in the first two periods; the rest came when the Flyers were pressing to get back in the game and throwing everything they could at the net.

"We want to be on the ice when its time to kill penalties or play power play," Gagne told NHL.com. "That's the way I'm used to playing. No time to change it. Maybe something we could do in the future, but for now that's the way we're going to play."

Flyers coach John Stevens admitted he needs to spread the hard minutes around a bit, but he won't get away from using his top two lines in all phases of the game.

"I don't think we've become too reliant," said Stevens. "Especially on the road, I think when they're looking for matchups they want to have, we can rely on our third and fourth lines a little more, but at the same time we're always going to rely on our top two lines to carry the bulk of the work."

For his part, Richards said he isn't being over-played or wearing down.

"I'm 24 years old, I feel good," he said. "I feel all right, I feel good, I feel I have fresh legs. At the end of the game yesterday I felt fresh."

Stevens did admit he overused Richards in Game 1, and hopes not to repeat that mistake.

"I think in terms of Richey, I think yesterday I did him a little bit of a disservice to be honest," said the coach. "He's arguably our best player and maybe I relied on him a bit too much. Getting in penalty trouble, he's a left-handed centerman we like to use there. I think we get into a situation now where Darroll Powe has developed where he could take some of those minutes. Richey plays so hard all the time, and when you play against Crosby it's hard hockey and he competes at a high level. Maybe I use him too much. I have to spread it around a little bit, but we're not going to go away from him in the penalty-kill situation. I think he's terrific and he wants to be used in those situations. But I think we can thin it out a little bit."

Playing Powe and Claude Giroux more on the penalty kill and possibly at five-on-five -- Powe, Giroux and Danny Briere skated together on a line at practice Thursday -- is an option.

Other ways to thin out the hard minutes are to stay out of the penalty box and play with a lead. The Flyers were shorthanded eight times in Game 1, and in their last 26 games, they've led after the first period just four times.

"If you're winning it's a lot easier to play 25 minutes then when you chase the game," Gagne told NHL.com. "If you're chasing the game, you can play 25 minutes, but maybe 10 minutes are hard, hard minutes where you're trying to score a goal so you're going to burn more energy, so it's a little bit harder when you're chasing a game."

If they're gonna cry their guys on are the ice too long because they also play the PK...well, the answer seems pretty simple to me. Don't take penalties, but you know they won't do that. Instead they'll rotate in other guys. :doh:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=418678

Fire Haley
04-17-2009, 08:43 AM
Glad to see the league is cracking down on cheap shots


My Gawd. See post #56.
Trying to steal my thunder?

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=35239&page=2

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 08:48 AM
My Gawd. See post #56.
Trying to steal my thunder?

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=35239&page=2

Y'know, once in a while, we Mods are human too. It's not a big deal, Killer.

Fire Haley
04-17-2009, 08:51 AM
Mods. Human?
Unpossible.

No. It's a conspiracy.

You're all out to steal my ideas.

I just know it.

Edman
04-17-2009, 09:15 AM
Mods are secretive alien beings seeking acceptance from humans. Just joshing of course.

Game Two is tonight! Let's go Pens!

Fire Haley
04-17-2009, 09:25 AM
Brain suckers. I knew it.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/cb/fullj.77a9063d64b3d68b153c4c016d9313e3/77a9063d64b3d68b153c4c016d9313e3-getty-85974604js005_philadelphia_.jpg

Go Pens!

vasteeler
04-17-2009, 10:10 AM
I'll give you a pass only because you're a Steelers fan. But I hope you're not here to whine endlessly about some kind of "conspiracy" between the league and the Pens, about how they allegedly get every call, like I hear from most other Flyers fans. I've really had my fill of it. It is, was, and always will be :bs:

no you will never here me say anything like that.
That would put me in the same catagory as seahag fans

vasteeler
04-17-2009, 10:15 AM
You and my brother. How in the world do you know good when it comes to choosing football teams but clueless when choosing hockey teams? :rofl:

Just busting your balls. I'd say goodluck but I don't mean it so :drink:

yeah i dont know for some reason as a kid i chose all pha. teams except the eagles.

as far as beeing a Steelers fan my fathers side of the family are all from Cleveland and I cant stand any of them so the best thing for me to have done was become a Steelers fan

SteelMember
04-17-2009, 10:38 AM
Game Two is tonight! Let's go Pens!

Being out of market, I hope the game will be on VS HD again. Listening to the radio broadcast just isn't the same. Radio is for baseball imo. :noidea:

Fire Haley
04-17-2009, 11:26 AM
It's on Versus.

Fire Haley
04-17-2009, 02:56 PM
"Philadelphia head coach John Stevens was also fined $10,000 for his attempt to "send a message".

bring it

RunWillieRun
04-17-2009, 03:20 PM
Time to beat these pathetic mouth-breathers further into submission tonight!


LET'S GO PENS!


Do it!

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 06:12 PM
Pens/Flyers game is underway.

Please let one of our guys beat the living shit out of Hartnell tonight. :thumbsup:

Pens came out flying and hitting the Flyers hard on the boards. :applaudit:

LETS GO PENS! :banana:

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 06:32 PM
SHIT!!!! That shitbag Hartnell just scored on a PP. Flyers up 1-0 with 6 left in the first.

C'mon Pens - answer 'em!

Steelman16
04-17-2009, 06:41 PM
Liking the physicality of the Pens so far. Time to KO Hartnell!!

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 07:36 PM
Billy G shoots and scores!!!! :banana:

Pens and Flyers tied 1-1 with 3 left in the 2nd.

LETS GO PENS!!!

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 08:02 PM
Time to KO Hartnell!!

Y'know, I feel everyone has beauty within them. That's just what I've always believed. With Hartnell - he's just an ugly man and an ugly, dirty player on the ice. I've heard, though, that's a great guy outside of the hockey rink. :noidea:

Both Fleury and Biron have played very well tonight. Staal just shot a puck at Biron and I don't know how he made that save! :banging:

I smell a Pens win here. LETS GO PENS!

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 08:04 PM
Powe just scored on a quick shot. Flyers up 2-1 with a little under 18 left in the 3rd. Lots of time left.

SteelCityMan786
04-17-2009, 08:11 PM
Powe just scored on a quick shot. Flyers up 2-1 with a little under 18 left in the 3rd. Lots of time left.

"Don't give up, don't ever give up."

Sound like a familiar mentality of some penguins fans.:thmbup:

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 08:17 PM
"Don't give up, don't ever give up."

Sound like a familiar mentality of some penguins fans.:thmbup:

:drink:

And a not-so-familiar mentality of a few. :chuckle:

I never give up on my teams. :tt03:

SteelCityMan786
04-17-2009, 08:26 PM
:drink:

And a not-so-familiar mentality of a few. :chuckle:

I never give up on my teams. :tt03:

Amen Sister.

COME ON PENS! KEEP ON FIGHTING!!!!!

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 08:30 PM
GENO SHOOTS & SCORES ON THE PP!!!! We're all tied up! :banana:

LETS GO PENS!

EDIT: Well - it went off Geno's skate but we'll take it!

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 08:37 PM
Pens and the Flyers are going to OT. I really like our chances!

Did you guys see the right toe save Fleury made on Richards? :jawdrop: That was one of the BEST saves I've EVER seen in all the years I've been following the Pens and hockey. :thumbsup:

SteelCityMan786
04-17-2009, 08:49 PM
Pens and the Flyers are going to OT. I really like our chances!

Did you guys see the right toe save Fleury made on Richards? :jawdrop: That was one of the BEST saves I've EVER seen in all the years I've been following the Pens and hockey. :thumbsup:

It was one of the craziest ever.

OneForTheToe
04-17-2009, 09:06 PM
I thought Fedotenko had svored there a minute ago. Nothing like OT in hockey.

ricksteelers55
04-17-2009, 09:15 PM
Wow, that was gracious. I've got to hand it to you, maybe it's just the diehard Pittsburgher in me, but I couldn't wish the other team "good luck" in a playoff series/game. It goes against my very nature.

I was glad to see Carcillo get the boot for tonight! Well deserved! :thmbup:

Now we just have to be that physical and disciplined again tonight and watch Harnell go ballistic out of frustration and cost his team some more penalty goals.

BTW: My daughter is up in Toronto today touring the Hockey HOF with her high school band. I didn't think of it until today when I was texting her this morning and asked if she was wearing Pens gear and representing her team well? Her answer? "LOL -- I'm your daughter -- of COURSE I'm wearing Sidney's jersey!" LOL, I had forgot to check if she was going to take something and sure enough, I raised her well! :tt02:

Not my nature either,but im more a steelers fan than a flyers fan so i have so much respect for the city of pittsburgh that i cant wish anything else but good things to the city and its fan

BTW: Carcillo's should have been suspended for more than a game,even as a fan of the flyers i have to admit that it was a cheapshot.

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 09:15 PM
WTF????? Staal is mugged with a stick and no penalty called????? :jawdrop:

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 09:20 PM
Orpik was cross-checked by Knuble - PENS ON PP!!!! Let's get the W here boyz! :thumbsup:

OneForTheToe
04-17-2009, 09:20 PM
wow what a cluster f*ck by the Flyers. What the hell was Biron thinking? Do it again.

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 09:21 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Pens are going to have a 5 on 3!!!!

LETS GO PENS!!!! :hope: :drink:

OneForTheToe
04-17-2009, 09:24 PM
Oh yea. The undiscilpline Flyers strike again.

HometownGal
04-17-2009, 09:24 PM
PENS WIN ON HUGE SHOT BY BILLY G!!!!

CONGRATS PENS!!!! :banana: :applaudit::hatsoff:

2--0 going into Filthadelphia on Sunday!!! :cheer:

SteelCityMan786
04-17-2009, 09:29 PM
2-0 LEAD!!!! WAY TO GO BILL!!!!!

Edman
04-17-2009, 09:35 PM
Flyers once again done in by idiot, undisciplined hockey.

Penguins kept their cool and let Philthy screw up by themselves. Closer game than the first, but a great game and you gotta love the 2-0 lead.

ricksteelers55
04-17-2009, 09:44 PM
Dumb penalties by Knuble...and Giroux but you have to stop that puck.Biron is overrated...Id take Fleury over him any day of the week

X-Terminator
04-17-2009, 09:50 PM
I was listening to the game on the way home from the Pirates game tonight and caught the OT and the win! I recorded the game on the DVR and just watched the end...well, get ready for more whining from the Killadelphia Cryer fans. The Pens scored on a 5-on-3 in OT, so even though the penalties were legit calls and the Flyers had gotten away with a cross-check before Gill got called for the same thing that gave them a PP, in their eyes, it's a conspiracy by the league and paid-off refs to make sure the Pens get the win. :jerkit:

Up 2-0 heading into Killadelphia on Sunday - can't ask for more than that! :thumbsup::tt03:

Fire Haley
04-17-2009, 10:33 PM
It's Pick Your Scapegoat Night on the Flyers boards.

What a game!

ricksteelers55
04-17-2009, 10:57 PM
I was listening to the game on the way home from the Pirates game tonight and caught the OT and the win! I recorded the game on the DVR and just watched the end...well, get ready for more whining from the Killadelphia Cryer fans. The Pens scored on a 5-on-3 in OT, so even though the penalties were legit calls and the Flyers had gotten away with a cross-check before Gill got called for the same thing that gave them a PP, in their eyes, it's a conspiracy by the league and paid-off refs to make sure the Pens get the win. :jerkit:

Up 2-0 heading into Killadelphia on Sunday - can't ask for more than that! :thumbsup::tt03:

Well those who whine and cry are nothing but ignorants.Im a flyers fan and i can tell you this we should have been penalized at least 2 more times in overtime.The Gill penalty was a penalty,but so were Giroux and Knuble penalties.We cant skate with the Pens,and our goalie doesnt make the key saves.I havent been impressed by him so far this season and hopefully we will draft a goalie or get a starting goaltender during the offseason cause Biron is just not the guy.

X-Terminator
04-17-2009, 11:11 PM
Well those who whine and cry are nothing but ignorants.Im a flyers fan and i can tell you this we should have been penalized at least 2 more times in overtime.The Gill penalty was a penalty,but so were Giroux and Knuble penalties.We cant skate with the Pens,and our goalie doesnt make the key saves.I havent been impressed by him so far this season and hopefully we will draft a goalie or get a starting goaltender during the offseason cause Biron is just not the guy.

The Flyers are a stud D-man and top-notch goalie away from being a big-time Cup contender, IMO. Other than Timonen, I'm not impressed with any of their defensemen. Parent and Sbisa will be good in the long run and Coburn is decent, but they need a big-time guy like maybe Jay Bouwmeester to really solidify their D corps. And there has to be someone - anyone - out there better than Martin Biron in goal. He simply does not make the big saves consistently enough to carry a team. There is no way that OT goal by Guerin should have gone in. Now that's not to say that the Flyers are done and they can't come back and win this series - they most certainly can - but that's what I think they need to put them over the top.

SteelCityMan786
04-17-2009, 11:51 PM
I was listening to the game on the way home from the Pirates game tonight and caught the OT and the win! I recorded the game on the DVR and just watched the end...well, get ready for more whining from the Killadelphia Cryer fans. The Pens scored on a 5-on-3 in OT, so even though the penalties were legit calls and the Flyers had gotten away with a cross-check before Gill got called for the same thing that gave them a PP, in their eyes, it's a conspiracy by the league and paid-off refs to make sure the Pens get the win. :jerkit:

Up 2-0 heading into Killadelphia on Sunday - can't ask for more than that! :thumbsup::tt03:

Philly fans=worlds biggest whiners.

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 12:02 AM
Fleury is a God.

http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/545ec81d-32f0-4ada-b632-88a96bf8422e.jpg

ricksteelers55
04-18-2009, 12:27 AM
The Flyers are a stud D-man and top-notch goalie away from being a big-time Cup contender, IMO. Other than Timonen, I'm not impressed with any of their defensemen. Parent and Sbisa will be good in the long run and Coburn is decent, but they need a big-time guy like maybe Jay Bouwmeester to really solidify their D corps. And there has to be someone - anyone - out there better than Martin Biron in goal. He simply does not make the big saves consistently enough to carry a team. There is no way that OT goal by Guerin should have gone in. Now that's not to say that the Flyers are done and they can't come back and win this series - they most certainly can - but that's what I think they need to put them over the top.

100% right on that one,and you simply dont win against a good O like the pens with a so-so goaltender.You need to have very good goaltending to win against Pittsburgh.So the Pens only need to win one of the 2 games in Philly to be in a very good scenario,which of course is going to happen.I called Pittsburgh in 6 make it 5

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 12:11 PM
After many hours of rigorous mathmatical computations I have determined the Flyers will need to win 4 out of the next 5 games. Unpossible.

pittsburghp8baller
04-18-2009, 02:37 PM
After many hours of rigorous mathmatical computations I have determined the Flyers will need to win 4 out of the next 5 games. Unpossible.

wow, where did u get ur PHD?

great game last night, ill agree with you Fleury is a GOD!!! I dont know if there are messing with me since im such a big fleury fan but during the season my dad and brother like to dog fleury and did it for most of the season. so last night i send both of them a text simply saying 'how do like him now?' and both of them knew exactly what i was talking about.

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 03:00 PM
Wow - Lundqvist just shut out the Caps, 1-0 - Rags took two games on their ice. Who woulda thunk that?

Ovy is nowhere to be found.

X-Terminator
04-18-2009, 03:18 PM
Wow - Lundqvist just shut out the Caps, 1-0 - Rags took two games on their ice. Who woulda thunk that?

Ovy is nowhere to be found.

I would have - the Rags over the Caps was my upset special of the first round. Lundqvist is simply better than Jose Theodore could ever hope to be, and he was going to be the reason why the Rags would win. And with the Rangers being so good at home during the regular season, the Caps have no chance at a comeback, not when they have to win 4 of 5 and 3 of those on the road.

As for OV...he was invisible in the playoffs last season and invisible again this season. Meanwhile, Geno has 5 points in 2 games. No, it doesn't have any bearing on the MVP voting, but who's the one performing like an MVP so far?

pittsburghp8baller
04-18-2009, 03:42 PM
I would have - the Rags over the Caps was my upset special of the first round. Lundqvist is simply better than Jose Theodore could ever hope to be, and he was going to be the reason why the Rags would win. And with the Rangers being so good at home during the regular season, the Caps have no chance at a comeback, not when they have to win 4 of 5 and 3 of those on the road.

As for OV...he was invisible in the playoffs last season and invisible again this season. Meanwhile, Geno has 5 points in 2 games. No, it doesn't have any bearing on the MVP voting, but who's the one performing like an MVP so far?

Lundy straight up stole that game. there is no way the Rangers deserved that game other than Lundy, they looked god awful in every other aspect of the game. Varlamov played pretty good to, but he really wasnt tested. he faced 24 shots but none of them really jumped out at me. it looks like OV is trying to do too much, a lot of times i saw him carry the puck from his own blue line across the neurtal zone into the offensive and then just shoot and a lot of times it he missed the net. He needs a top flight centerman who can do all of that, take the puck up the ice, direct traffic and all of that. Backstrom may become that but he is still young and still be a couple years from being that.

anyways, most of the players on the Caps i can but the reason i want them to lose so bad is the fans. callers on the local sports radio are calling this hockey town and crap like that.

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 03:43 PM
You need to play as a team to win in the playoffs, regardless of how much talent you have on your roster. The Caps haven't done that

But still. after the first round, Crosby should have more MVP votes than Ovechkin, one guy shows up(Sid) the other doesn't.


The Pens got some grit now - the Caps - not so much.

pittsburghp8baller
04-18-2009, 03:51 PM
You need to play as a team to win in the playoffs, regardless of how much talent you have on your roster. The Caps haven't done that

But still. after the first round, Crosby should have more MVP votes than Ovechkin, one guy shows up(Sid) the other doesn't.

If you look at the roster, once you get past OV, Green, Backstrom and Semin there really isnt that many people that really stand out on a consistent basis.

Fact is, Lundy stole game 2 hands down. Same problem with the Caps, they dont have a great goalie and they play very suspect defense.

well im pretty sure the rule is all MVP votes must be in before the playoffs start. unless you are talking about the conn symthe, which of course then even Tyler Kennedy should have more votes since he has a game winner.

but playoff play doesnt go into for the season MVP. so more than likely Bettman is holding a card with all the votes and OV's name is most likely on top.

X-Terminator
04-18-2009, 04:50 PM
Lundy straight up stole that game. there is no way the Rangers deserved that game other than Lundy, they looked god awful in every other aspect of the game. Varlamov played pretty good to, but he really wasnt tested. he faced 24 shots but none of them really jumped out at me. it looks like OV is trying to do too much, a lot of times i saw him carry the puck from his own blue line across the neurtal zone into the offensive and then just shoot and a lot of times it he missed the net. He needs a top flight centerman who can do all of that, take the puck up the ice, direct traffic and all of that. Backstrom may become that but he is still young and still be a couple years from being that.

Ah, it was Varlamov in goal and not Theodore? Anyway, I know the Rags pretty much suck other than Lundy, but when he is on top of his game, you cannot count them out, just like the Devils and Brodeur.

anyways, most of the players on the Caps i can but the reason i want them to lose so bad is the fans. callers on the local sports radio are calling this hockey town and crap like that.

Friggin hilarious. They have a couple of good seasons, and now they want to call themselves "Hockeytown?" When just 2 years ago, they couldn't fill up their arena despite having OV in town? When Pens fans STILL take over their arena even now? Please. Call me when the Craps do something other than underachieve and suck, and then I might pay attention. BTW, someone might want to tell OV that he doesn't have to win the game by himself - he does have some pretty good teammates who can help him get the job done. But yeah, if you stop OV and Semin and stay out of the penalty box when Mike Green can hurt you on the PP, you pretty much stop the Caps, because outside of those 3 and Backstrom, they have nothing. Their D corps isn't anything special either - Green is all offense and after him, they have a bunch of curtain-jerkers. Jurcina, Erskine, Morrisonn, Poti and Pothier? Not exactly guys who strike fear in the hearts of their opponents.

pittsburghp8baller
04-18-2009, 05:01 PM
Ah, it was Varlamov in goal and not Theodore? Anyway, I know the Rags pretty much suck other than Lundy, but when he is on top of his game, you cannot count them out, just like the Devils and Brodeur.



Friggin hilarious. They have a couple of good seasons, and now they want to call themselves "Hockeytown?" When just 2 years ago, they couldn't fill up their arena despite having OV in town? When Pens fans STILL take over their arena even now? Please. Call me when the Craps do something other than underachieve and suck, and then I might pay attention. BTW, someone might want to tell OV that he doesn't have to win the game by himself - he does have some pretty good teammates who can help him get the job done. But yeah, if you stop OV and Semin and stay out of the penalty box when Mike Green can hurt you on the PP, you pretty much stop the Caps, because outside of those 3 and Backstrom, they have nothing. Their D corps isn't anything special either - Green is all offense and after him, they have a bunch of curtain-jerkers. Jurcina, Erskine, Morrisonn, Poti and Pothier? Not exactly guys who strike fear in the hearts of their opponents.

i was surprised to see Varlamov in net this early, you can tell they are getting desperate. well, it looks like its Varlamov the rest of the way out and im expecting the rangers to pick it up when it goes back to the garden so he could be in for a rough two games. DC fans came up with a funny nickname for jose theodore- Jose Three-A-Game, i found it funny.

exactly, which is why the rangers are up 2-0. they didnt take many penaltys and when they did, they were able to contain the PP.

yea its funny, before the Caps changed there jerseys u would barely see any1 walking around with anything that has to with the Capitals.

around here, if ALL the sports teams are doing bad you wouldnt even know there was professional sports around here.

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 05:05 PM
well im pretty sure the rule is all MVP votes must be in before the playoffs start.


Well, when your "league MVP" gets bounced from the the playoffs in the 1st rd - what does that say?

whatever the Rangers are doing to shut down Ovie - I say let them keep doing it.

OneForTheToe
04-18-2009, 05:07 PM
I hope the Caps and Rags series is discussed on PTI on Monday. Micheal Wilbon (who I usually like) has been slurping OV all year. Just hope the Rags keep rolling and Carolina can beats Jersey. The Pens could have home ice for another round.

pittsburghp8baller
04-18-2009, 05:28 PM
Well, when your "league MVP" gets bounced from the the playoffs in the 1st rd - what does that say?

whatever the Rangers are doing to shut down Ovie - I say let them keep doing it.

that his 'team' sucked. u were the one that said its gonna take a team effort to win when talking about the Pens.

OV is suffering from the same thing Crosby went through before the deadline, he had no help on his line and the rangers are swarming him and not letting him do anything with the puck, most of his shots were very bad % shots.

remember Sid was bounced from the first round his MVP year. regular season and playoffs are two completely different seasons. there is the MVP of the REGULAR season and the MVP of the PLAYOFFS

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 06:23 PM
And your "League MVP" is supposed to make those around him better too, right?

Does Ovechkin ever pass the puck? I think not.

X-Terminator
04-18-2009, 06:28 PM
And your "League MVP" is supposed to make those around him better too, right?

Does Ovechkin ever pass the puck? I think not.

He broke the NHL record for SOG in a season, but still found time to dish out 54 assists to go with his 56 goals. So yeah, he does pass the puck occasionally. He's just trying to do too much right now since he has no help on his line, and their coach Bruce Boudreau doesn't want to put him with Semin and Backstrom for the same reason that the Pens do not want to put Malkin and Crosby together for longer than a couple shifts a game. It takes away from their scoring depth on their other lines. However, you are right - MVP type players are supposed to elevate the games of their linemates regardless of who they are, and he's not doing that right now.

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 06:32 PM
Yep, the Caps are looking content to take pretty potshots from the perimeter with no one wanting to muck it up and go to the net for the dirty goals.

The Rangers defense will eat them alive if they keep that up.

X-Terminator
04-18-2009, 06:34 PM
I hope the Caps and Rags series is discussed on PTI on Monday. Micheal Wilbon (who I usually like) has been slurping OV all year. Just hope the Rags keep rolling and Carolina can beats Jersey. The Pens could have home ice for another round.

That, of course, would rule...however, that would mean the Pens would draw the Canes in round 2. That's just one team I do not want to face right now, despite having home ice. But first things first - let the Pens take care of business against the whiners from Killadelphia, then worry about our round 2 opponent.

Yep, the Caps are looking content to take pretty potshots from the perimeter with no one wanting to muck it up and go to the net for the dirty goals.

The Rangers defenes will eat them alive if they keep that up.

Chris Clark, their captain, usually is the guy who does that on OV's line, but he's been hurt all year and isn't expected back in the playoffs, I believe. They have some guys who are willing to hit, but no one to go to the net and take a beating to get dirty goals, and it's killing them right now.

pittsburghp8baller
04-18-2009, 06:38 PM
I hope the Caps and Rags series is discussed on PTI on Monday. Micheal Wilbon (who I usually like) has been slurping OV all year. Just hope the Rags keep rolling and Carolina can beats Jersey. The Pens could have home ice for another round.

well Wilbon does work at for the Washington Post, i think its a requirement around here to be slurping on OV if your a writer.

i dont know who i would rather face right now, im just worried about finishing off philly id love us to be able to sweep them and finish off the series in there own house

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 07:54 PM
Boston is pounding the crap outta the Habs, up 2-0 in game 2 - even though they just lost a guy with a ruptured spleen.

pittsburghp8baller
04-18-2009, 08:16 PM
Boston is pounding the crap outta the Habs, up 2-0 in game 2 - even though they just lost a guy with a ruptured spleen.

3-1 now, Kovy still has a hell of a snipe shot

this series was over before it started

Fire Haley
04-18-2009, 10:07 PM
Complete humiliation. Price is a bust.

5-1 Boston

devilsdancefloor
04-18-2009, 10:45 PM
chicago (does lil dance) is up 2-0!! Go Hawks:couch:

pittsburghp8baller
04-19-2009, 12:13 AM
Complete humiliation. Price is a bust.

5-1 Boston

i wouldnt call him a bust just yet, he is just 21. Fleury hadnt even played a full season in the NHL when he was 21. The Canadiens were desperate and pulled the gun on Price, maybe before he was ready. I was talking to some canadiens fans and they were talking about how the goalie coach has been trying to mess around with his how he plays the puck.

That kid has got the weight of that city on his shoulders, all of them are expecting the next coming of Patrick Roy. While i think he can be a decent goaltender in the future, in no way is he the next coming of Patrick Roy.

pittsburghp8baller
04-19-2009, 12:18 AM
chicago (does lil dance) is up 2-0!! Go Hawks:couch:

congrats on that. Chicago is one of the teams i cheer for when they arent playing the penguins. didnt get to watch the game, but will prob try and tune in for game 3.

i def believe when it is all said and done Pat Kane could pass Mike Modano as the all-time american born point getter.

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 01:59 AM
i wouldnt call him a bust just yet, he is just 21. .

Maybe, maybe not. I only said that because that's what their own fans are calling him today.

I know one thing, the Habs fans will boo them all outta the building if they lose the next game at home.


Anyway - I don't really care about them, we got our own games to worry about.

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 10:59 AM
Afternoon game - If the Pens can grab the lead early, not only will it get the crowd off of our backs, but they'll jump onto the "I hate the home team" bandwagon that Philly is famous for. :tt03:


"We expect them to take it up another notch being at home,” Crosby said. “It doesn’t get any easier. It just gets tougher. We just have to keep playing the same way. We approach every game like it’s a new one. With it being the first one in their building we want to make sure that we play well. We know they’re going to come hard and be desperate. It’s a big game.”

devilsdancefloor
04-19-2009, 11:11 AM
congrats on that. Chicago is one of the teams i cheer for when they arent playing the penguins. didnt get to watch the game, but will prob try and tune in for game 3.

i def believe when it is all said and done Pat Kane could pass Mike Modano as the all-time american born point getter.

i can only hope so and that he is a hawk for his whole career!

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Gametime!

Now the asswhack

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 02:18 PM
I actually think the Flyers will win this one, but of course I hope I'm wrong.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 02:27 PM
Stupid Early Goal. BULLSHIT Penalty Call.

OneForTheToe
04-19-2009, 02:29 PM
Not starting well.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 02:30 PM
Come on guys, get your heads OUT OF YOUR ASSES!!!!

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 02:34 PM
This game so far is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for the Flyers.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 02:36 PM
To tell you the truth, this is what I expected so far. The Pens so far haven't been able to match the Flyers' intensity, and are now falling right into their hands with the after-the-whistle stuff. This is exactly what they DIDN'T want to have happen.

Crushzilla
04-19-2009, 02:37 PM
Well...

After all that...

Penguins power play :thumbsup:

OneForTheToe
04-19-2009, 02:38 PM
This is turning into an ugly game.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 02:40 PM
This is turning into an ugly game.

Just what the Flyers want.

Crushzilla
04-19-2009, 02:40 PM
Man.

The power play looks SOOOO out of rhythm.

Guys are gingerly playing the puck off of the boards. The Flyers are getting into their heads.

I have no room to talk. I would soil myself if a bull-rush check were coming at me.

Still a lot of hockey to go. Pens could use a little momentum.

Crushzilla
04-19-2009, 02:43 PM
One nice thing, though, is that the Flyers are still Flying on offense.

Pens might be able to get something quick the other way.

Another power play coming up.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 02:46 PM
One nice thing, though, is that the Flyers are still Flying on offense.

Pens might be able to get something quick the other way.

Another power play coming up.

So far things don't look good from Philly's level of discipline.

Edman
04-19-2009, 02:49 PM
Penguins outplaying the Flyers...except on the scoreboard. Never before have I seen a team play such sloppy puck posession and still lead.

Pens aren't doing themselves any favors.

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 03:00 PM
The asswhack is NBC doing this game.

Pierre, shut up, and those end zone ice shots make me want to scream.

The Pens came out with swolled heads and thought they were on home ice. A 'Therrien' 1-0 game would have been better. Calm down.

Crushzilla
04-19-2009, 03:01 PM
Genooooooooo

Crushzilla
04-19-2009, 03:02 PM
The asswhack is NBC doing this game.

Pierre, shut up, and those end zone ice shots make me want to scream.

The Pens came out profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfiltery and thought they were on home ice. A 'Therrien' 1-0 game would have been better. Calm down.

It's painful, man.

It's all part of trying to sexy-up the game. If people don't like watching hockey... don't watch hockey.

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 03:05 PM
Thank you Geno!

Back in the game.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 03:08 PM
Big goal by Geno, but Talbot should have been called for boarding right before it. Hopefully it'll get the Pens going.

Love Doc and Edzo, but hate Pierre MaGAYire, so I muted the sound.

Crushzilla
04-19-2009, 03:18 PM
You know what this game needs?

Beer.

Off to the watering hole. Enjoy the hockey, boys (and ladies if Marianne is around).

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 03:19 PM
Big goal by Geno, but Talbot should have been called for boarding right before it. Hopefully it'll get the Pens going.

Love Doc and Edzo, but hate Pierre MaGAYire, so I muted the sound.

Are you listening to the 2 wisemen aka Lange and Borque?

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 03:20 PM
Oh you think you got it bad - we got this crazy local NBC weather girl that keeps coming in and halfing the screen for 10 minutes ata time and blathering on and on about their new doppler weather gizmos.

I don't wanna hear about no possible twister 50 miles from me.

We got a game to play.

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 03:24 PM
You know what this game needs?

Beer.

Off to the watering hole. Enjoy the hockey, boys (and ladies if Marianne is around).


I got a half gallon of Bacardi and a case of coke. I'll keep my drunkeness off the streets for today. I knew it was gonna be slobberknocker.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 03:33 PM
The Pens have outplayed the Flyers, yet they're behind. Frustrating.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 03:35 PM
What the hell is happening to the Penguins? They look terrible now!

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 03:36 PM
SH goal. Damn. Flyers have all the momentum now.

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 03:37 PM
What the hell is happening to the Penguins? They look terrible now!

I wouldn't say the Pens look "terrible". I would say the Flyers have upped their game playing in front of the home crowd. I have faith in these guys - never count 'em out.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 03:37 PM
What the hell is happening to the Penguins? They look terrible now!

They SHIT the Bed.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 03:38 PM
I'm not counting them out, but I call it how I see it... This doesn't look like the Pens from the last two games, this looks like the Pens from earlier in the season.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 03:40 PM
It is all the more frustrating as one of my best buddies is a Fliers fan...

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 03:40 PM
They SHIT the Bed.

Awww c'mon Matt - you're one of the few Pens optimists around here :hug: We don't give up on our Pens! Lots of hockey left to play.

I certainly didn't go into this series thinking the Pens were going to sweep the Flyers. I figured that we'd split with them in Philly. If we lose one to them today, I'm not going to sweat it.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 03:41 PM
I'm not counting them out, but I call it how I see it... This doesn't look like the Pens from the last two games, this looks like the Pens from earlier in the season.

They're on the road in the playoffs against a desperate team. It's tough to win on the road in the playoffs as it is, but it's even tougher when you're playing a team that's down 2-0 and need a win to get back into the series.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 03:42 PM
But it's not that Philly looks better, it's that the Pens look worse...

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 03:43 PM
I'm not counting them out, but I call it how I see it... This doesn't look like the Pens from the last two games, this looks like the Pens from earlier in the season.

I respect your opinion, but I see a Flyers team playing on their ice in front of their home crowd who has upped their game in desperation. I also think Fleury isn't having his best game, which was bound to happen eventually. Better early on in the series than if this goes the full 7 games. :thumbsup:

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 03:45 PM
I dunno, the Pens can't seem to keep the puck out of their zone so Fleury isn't getting a whole lot of help...

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 03:56 PM
But it's not that Philly looks better, it's that the Pens look worse...

Up until the Giroux goal, I thought the Pens had outplayed the Flyers, but since then, the Flyers have taken control. But they're only down 2 goals and the 3rd period has been the Pens' best period over the past 2 months, so they aren't out of it.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 04:02 PM
Up until the Giroux goal, I thought the Pens had outplayed the Flyers, but since then, the Flyers have taken control. But they're only down 2 goals and the 3rd period has been the Pens' best period over the past 2 months, so they aren't out of it.


I hope you are right, I don't want to have to get ragged by my buddy for the next few days :banging:

On a side note, these weather reports and getting pretty damned annoying! On came up right when Fleury gave up a rebound and everyone was chopping at it and then "We apologize for interrupting your regularly scheduled broadcast. This is a severe weather report." And the idiot weatherman keeps calling it "huckey":rocket:

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 04:02 PM
Eh - the Flyers are playing slick hockey, give them credit.

Pens have had lots of chances that miss by a hair. That's the way it goes sometimes.

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 04:06 PM
Eh - the Flyers are playing slick hockey, give them credit.

Pens have had lots of chances that miss by a hair. That's the way it goes sometimes.

I agree. :drink: As I said earlier, I had no expectations going into this series that the Pens would sweep the Flyers out in 4. I also believe that the Pens are still very much in this game and as XT said above, the 3rd has been the Pens strongest period down the stretch and into this series, so I don't count 'em out.

LETS GO PENS! :drink:

Fire Haley
04-19-2009, 04:08 PM
Update:

Sykora should be benched. He's a total waste. He couldn't hit a barn with a barn.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:08 PM
Awww c'mon Matt - you're one of the few Pens optimists around here :hug: We don't give up on our Pens! Lots of hockey left to play.

I certainly didn't go into this series thinking the Pens were going to sweep the Flyers. I figured that we'd split with them in Philly. If we lose one to them today, I'm not going to sweat it.

I think I just needed to get some anger out. Thanks HTG for helping me regain my senses. Still a lot of hockey left indeed. I'm trying to keep my head up at least. I guess just hate losing to Philly that much. I guess I prefer 3-0 lead over a 2-1 in to a game 4. Oh well.

Ultimately my hope was that they sweep the games in Pittsburgh.(Check). At least SPLIT the games in Philly. I still think a sweep is possible, but it's a long shot.

DON'T STOP BELIEVING. :jammin:

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 04:10 PM
Update:

Sykora should be benched. He's a total waste. He couldn't hit a barn with a barn.

Sorry, Killer - have to disagree there. Biron made a great save in the waning minutes of the 2nd - great pass by Crosby and Petr took the shot but Biron was right there. He's in a bit of a scoring slump but it happens to the best of 'em.

Look for the Pens to play their asses off in the 3rd - should be a great period. :hope:

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 04:10 PM
HOLD ON TO THAT FEEEEeeeeLING!

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 04:12 PM
HOLD ON TO THAT FEEEEeeeeLING!

There ya go buddy! :drink::thumbsup:

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 04:13 PM
Sorry, Killer - have to disagree there. Biron made a great save in the waning minutes of the 2nd - great pass by Crosby and Petr took the shot but Biron was right there. He's in a bit of a scoring slump but it happens to the best of 'em.

Look for the Pens to play their asses off in the 3rd - should be a great period. :hope:

I don't think he should be benched either, but he needs to start scoring some goals. He's killing us right now with this slump he's in.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:17 PM
Sorry, Killer - have to disagree there. Biron made a great save in the waning minutes of the 2nd - great pass by Crosby and Petr took the shot but Biron was right there. He's in a bit of a scoring slump but it happens to the best of 'em.

Look for the Pens to play their asses off in the 3rd - should be a great period. :hope:

Afraid so HTG. Biron is getting what Fleury did the other 2 nights. HELP. As much as I want Philly to lose, they're playing a good game today.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Well, that might be it right there...

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:18 PM
That's 2 goals today I'm sure Fleury would want back.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 04:19 PM
I return to my original assessment, the Penguins suck balls right now...

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:20 PM
How about a Penalty on the Flyers for goaltender interference(One of their players were inside of Fleury's net for who knows how long)

EDIT:Nevermind he was knocked in. But how is that a Cross Check?

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 04:21 PM
That's 2 goals today I'm sure Fleury would want back.

He has not played his best game today for sure. The Richards goal was particularly bad.

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:22 PM
Appears that Briere is getting a 4 Minute Slashing Penalty. This is the PERFECT TIME to get some goals and make a comeback.

Remember folks, the Penguins have comeback from being down 5-2 before(Isn't that right Detroit?:chuckle:)

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:23 PM
He has not played his best game today for sure. The Richards goal was particularly bad.

Didn't he score the one he was off to the side of the net?

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:26 PM
Need a goal here. COME ON PENS!

"Don't Give Up, Don't Ever Give Up"

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:28 PM
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS AND SCORES!!!!!!!!!

NICE WORK GENO!!!

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 04:33 PM
Didn't he score the one he was off to the side of the net?

Yep, that's the one.

That one he allowed to Ross really looks huge now after Geno just scored. They'd only be down by 1 instead of 2.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-19-2009, 04:46 PM
I don't mind loosing, but we got are asses kicked today...

SteelCityMan786
04-19-2009, 04:49 PM
Lets FORGET this game and get ready for game 4. :jammin:

Edman
04-19-2009, 04:58 PM
We lost game 3. Let's get 'em Tuesday.

But who cares, Like last year, the best we can hope for a split in Philly. We were not going to sweep them.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 05:01 PM
I pretty much expected the Pens to lose today and win game 4 to come back here 3-1. I said Pens in 6, and I stand by that prediction. The Flyers weren't going to lay down just because they were down 2-0.

The Positives:

- Geno. Played like a man possessed today. Increased his scoring lead.
- Kunitz. Does this guy play tough or what? That hit on Timonen in the first period hurt ME!
- Penalty killing. Wasn't bad despite giving up the PP goal to Richards.
- Physical play. They didn't allow the Flyers to intimidate them and still tried to initiate the physical contact.

The Negatives:

- Fleury. Did not have his best game at all today. The Richards goal was just brutal.
- Allowed the Flyers to suck them into their game. That was one thing they absolutely could not allow to happen. They did, and they paid the price for it.
- Couldn't weather the early storm. Allowed 2 goals in the first 6 minutes of the game that got the Flyers off and running. Tough to come back from that, although they did end up tying the game early in 2nd.
- Power play. 1-7 just isn't good enough. They have to be able to capitalize on those chances, especially on the road. Allowed a SH goal to boot that was a back breaker for them.
- Sykora, again. Where is he? Yeah, he got robbed by Biron today, but this guy HAS to get going and start putting the puck in the net.
- Fedotenko too. Supposed to be a clutch playoff performer, but I've barely noticed him in the first 3 games. Malkin can't do it all by himself, boys!

The Pens have some work to do before Tuesday night. I'll really start to get nervous if they come back here even at 2, because I still remember that 2000 playoff series when the Pens won the first 2 games in Philly, then proceeded to lose the next 4 games, including all 3 at home. I don't want to go through that again.

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 05:04 PM
We lost game 3. Let's get 'em Tuesday.

But who cares, Like last year, the best we can hope for a split in Philly. We were not going to sweep them.

Exactly. Bylsma will have them ready to rumble on Tuesday night - I have no doubt about that. Philly played a good game, the Pens passes were somewhat off and Fleury didn't have his best game today - shit happens. The Pens are clearly the better team and no matter what happens on Tuesday, I believe they are going to take this series.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 05:25 PM
Exactly. Bylsma will have them ready to rumble on Tuesday night - I have no doubt about that. Philly played a good game, the Pens passes were somewhat off and Fleury didn't have his best game today - shit happens. The Pens are clearly the better team and no matter what happens on Tuesday, I believe they are going to take this series.

Besides, the Pens don't have to win a game in Philly (though obviously it would help). They just have to hold serve at home and they win the series in 7. But I'd still like to get a win there Tuesday just to make it a little easier on them.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 06:02 PM
One other thing - Dan, can you PLEASE dress Godard on Tuesday? You're playing against a physical team that has no problem taking cheap shots at your players. Why in God's name isn't he in the lineup???

HometownGal
04-19-2009, 06:20 PM
One other thing - Dan, can you PLEASE dress Godard on Tuesday? You're playing against a physical team that has no problem taking cheap shots at your players. Why in God's name isn't he in the lineup???

I've asked the same question myself. Godard in the lineup is a MUST, no ifs ands or buts. We signed him to be the enforcer for God's sake!

I'm not going to panic even if, God forbid, the Pens come back to the Burgh tied at 2. They've faced adversity before and they have the skill, grit and grind to get 'er done. I'm not one to look back at what a totally different team in a totally different era did or didn't do. I look ahead and this team just has too much talent to fall victim to a team that does have some talent, but is clearly inferior to this year's Pens.

X-Terminator
04-19-2009, 07:16 PM
I've asked the same question myself. Godard in the lineup is a MUST, no ifs ands or buts. We signed him to be the enforcer for God's sake!

I'm not going to panic even if, God forbid, the Pens come back to the Burgh tied at 2. They've faced adversity before and they have the skill, grit and grind to get 'er done. I'm not one to look back at what a totally different team in a totally different era did or didn't do. I look ahead and this team just has too much talent to fall victim to a team that does have some talent, but is clearly inferior to this year's Pens.

I wouldn't say the Flyers are clearly inferior - they had 6 guys score 25+ goals and 4 of them scored 30+. Even the goon Hartnell scored 30 goals this season. They also have Briere playing on the 3rd line who is a pretty good skill player in his own right. The Pens have the edge in goal and on defense, but at forward, I'd say it's a wash.

pittsburghp8baller
04-19-2009, 07:53 PM
One other thing - Dan, can you PLEASE dress Godard on Tuesday? You're playing against a physical team that has no problem taking cheap shots at your players. Why in God's name isn't he in the lineup???

agreed, i was so surprised that he wasnt in the lineup for game 2. i dont see why he wouldnt dress today, i mean the flyers are down 2-0 and playing in front of there home crowd, u gotta know they are gonna be pulling everything out of the bag.

all you can do is get up, brush yourself off and get ready for tuesday

SCSTILLER
04-19-2009, 08:40 PM
OK, I am not up on the Penguins like the rest of you. Stuck here in SC we don't get to see many Pens games. I have, thank goodness, been able to watch all three of the playoff games so far. My take so far, for what it's worth. We will win in six. We will take one in Philly, more than likely this next one. The Pens are playing alot more physical, IMO, and are not playing into Philly's game of intimidation and baiting for penalties. Philly was a cat in a corner tonight, even the biggest dog will get scratched in that situation. The Pens, for the most part, kept their composure and cool, and I like what this new coach Bylsma (sp?) is doing with these players. Looking forward to tuesday, and hoping I will be able to watch the game. Lets go PENS!

stlrtruck
04-20-2009, 07:23 AM
Here's the problem I had with yesterday's game. The refs seem to be calling a lot of ticky tack fouls all over the ice instead of letting the teams play for it.

Other than that, I figured the cryers would come out yesterday and fight for their lives. Now, I think they'll be spent - maybe win one more in Philly and then lost game 6 in Da 'Burgh, sending the Pens to the next round.

Steel Head
04-20-2009, 08:37 AM
One other thing - Dan, can you PLEASE dress Godard on Tuesday? You're playing against a physical team that has no problem taking cheap shots at your players. Why in God's name isn't he in the lineup???

That's exactly what I came here to post.

Also, instead of scratching Adams (who has been playing well imo) they could scratch Dupuis or maybe even Sykora to make room for Goddard

What about playing Boucher? any thought of that?

SteelMember
04-20-2009, 08:41 AM
I respect your opinion, but I see a Flyers team playing on their ice in front of their home crowd who has upped their game in desperation. I also think Fleury isn't having his best game, which was bound to happen eventually. Better early on in the series than if this goes the full 7 games. :thumbsup:
No, not even close. Even though the D seemed to be out of position at times, Fleury was giving up too many soft rebounds to the front and on that shorty...he can't let that pass go through the crease like that. He made some awesome saves as usual, but the shit orange team just got too many chances. They threw it at the net any time they could. We didn't start that until the 3rd.

Update:
Sykora should be benched. He's a total waste. He couldn't hit a barn with a barn.
I don't know if I would go as far as benching, but he and Fedotenko seem to miss the "slam dunks" way too often imo. I guess they are still not used to/ready for the pass in some cases.

BTW. Is anyone tired of the blind drop pass at the blue line yet? I know I am. :banging:

Steel Head
04-20-2009, 09:19 AM
I would not blame too much on Fleury even though he did let in some soft goals yesterday.

He is clearly playing better than Biron. Our D needs to tighten up

rbryan
04-20-2009, 09:28 AM
I still feel like the Pens outplayed them, as crazy as that might sound considering the final score.

As others have stated, no one expected a sweep. Philly is a tough hockey team and were playing for thier life yesterday. The fact that the puck was bouncing thier way most of the day didn't hurt either.

trauben
04-20-2009, 09:44 AM
I still feel like the Pens outplayed them, as crazy as that might sound considering the final score.

As others have stated, no one expected a sweep. Philly is a tough hockey team and were playing for thier life yesterday. The fact that the puck was bouncing thier way most of the day didn't hurt either.
I think I know what you mean. It's as if the flyers came out too strong. I know, sounds absurd, but they came busting out and fed off of the home crowd. How many times have we seen a team put way too much emotion out there to only be emotionally drained in the next game? The Pens played with consistent emotion, and I think that steady feed will keep them even-keel for the next game whereas the Flyers might show up drained.

At least that's what I'm hoping for. :thumbsup:

Fire Haley
04-20-2009, 11:26 AM
I don't mind loosing, but we got are asses kicked today...

Yep - Flyers simply out-hit (29-18) and out-hustled them.
I told you I hated weekend afternoon games.

Just a bad defensive day all around. Staal's line got schooled. This was as bad a game as the Pens as a team have played in a long time. Sykora is done, call up a warm body to replace him. Time to re-group for game 4.

HometownGal
04-20-2009, 11:57 AM
I would not blame too much on Fleury even though he did let in some soft goals yesterday.

He is clearly playing better than Biron. Our D needs to tighten up

Fleury had a bad day yesterday, plain and simple, though he didn't get much help from his D on a couple of those goals. That is going to happen once in a while and I have every confidence that he'll bounce right back in tomorrow night's game. Overall he is a better and more consistent goalie than Biron, but to be fair, Biron played well yesterday and made some really nice saves. You never know which Biron you are going to see, but my money's on the Pens to put more goals behind him tomorrow night than they did yesterday.

The key is - we have to score a goal or two early in the game to punch the Flyers in the gut and show 'em who's boss on that ice. :thumbsup:

trauben
04-20-2009, 12:10 PM
I'd rather they get this wake-up call now early in the playoffs than later.

This stung. Plain and simple. It was humiliating to an extent. And Sid HATES the Fliers and their fans.

Anyone else see that guy behind the glass when Sid had that fight? He kept pounding on the glass and flipping Sid off. If that isn't motivation for tomorrow night to shut them up, what is?

Crushzilla
04-20-2009, 03:21 PM
I'd rather they get this wake-up call now early in the playoffs than later.

This stung. Plain and simple. It was humiliating to an extent. And Sid HATES the Fliers and their fans.

Anyone else see that guy behind the glass when Sid had that fight? He kept pounding on the glass and flipping Sid off. If that isn't motivation for tomorrow night to shut them up, what is?

I don't know if Sid hates their fans.

Hopefully, he sees them more for what they are: pathetic.

X-Terminator
04-20-2009, 07:01 PM
Yep - Flyers simply out-hit (29-18) and out-hustled them.
I told you I hated weekend afternoon games.

Just a bad defensive day all around. Staal's line got schooled. This was as bad a game as the Pens as a team have played in a long time. Sykora is done, call up a warm body to replace him. Time to re-group for game 4.

The Pens haven't played well in afternoon games all season, really.

Bottom line, if the Pens are to win tomorrow night, they absolutely cannot allow themselves to get sucked into the Flyers' game and get involved in the extra stuff after whistles. Just play their game, be physical but stay disciplined. As for Sykora, there are rumblings that he's playing injured, but since injury reports in the playoffs are more secret than the nuclear missile launch codes, no one knows for sure. If it is true, though, then they might want to consider putting Satan in the lineup. They should consider it regardless, because his slump is really hurting the Pens right now.

Rek
04-20-2009, 07:35 PM
I love the aggressive nature the Flyers have. They are like the Steelers on skates. But the reason I hate them (HATE them) is their dirty hits and cheap shots and how if they lose, they whine (and whine, and whine) about the refs. I hope the pens win the series 4-1, but I hope the intensity is like Game 3 the whole way through. Lots of hits and passion. That's hockey for ya.

Rek
04-20-2009, 07:38 PM
Yep - Flyers simply out-hit (29-18) and out-hustled them.
I told you I hated weekend afternoon games.

Just a bad defensive day all around. Staal's line got schooled. This was as bad a game as the Pens as a team have played in a long time. Sykora is done, call up a warm body to replace him. Time to re-group for game 4.

The fact is, the pens dont have the big enforcers anymore. No Malone/Ruutu/Roberts/Georges...etc really hurts. They only have one big guy (Goddard) and a half (Cooke when he feels like it)

Although, the way Kunitz has been lighting people up, he may spark some people.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Yeah, I did notice that. The Pens seemed to be getting out muscled a lot...

HometownGal
04-21-2009, 05:17 AM
Yeah, I did notice that. The Pens seemed to be getting out muscled a lot...


Huh? :jawdrop: Did you not watch Games 1 and 2?

stlrtruck
04-21-2009, 07:13 AM
Huh? :jawdrop: Did you not watch Games 1 and 2?

Sorry HTG, but in Game 3 they were out manned. But I also think that may have more to do with the fact that the cryers were at home.

Tonight I think will be different.

SteelMember
04-21-2009, 07:13 AM
Killer, Have you been e-mailing the post-gazette. :chuckle:

Sputtering Sykora still best option as Malkin's linemate
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

PHILADELPHIA -- Evgeni Malkin is off to a fabulous start in these Stanley Cup playoffs and is the biggest reason the Penguins have a two-games-to-one edge over the Philadelphia Flyers. I guess we shouldn't be surprised because he won the NHL scoring title in the regular season, but what he has done in the past three games is almost silly. Going into last night, he led everybody in the league with four goals and seven points. That's Lemieux-like. That's Gretzky-like. That's ...

OK, you get the idea.

It kind of makes you wonder, though, doesn't it?

What would the great Malkin be accomplishing if his linemates were doing something -- anything -- to help?

It's not so much Ruslan Fedotenko. At least he set up a Malkin goal in the Game 3 loss Sunday with a sweet cross-ice pass. It's more Petr Sykora. He has done nothing against the Flyers. Actually, he has done nothing for quite a while.

"Certainly, you're concerned about the number of goals in the past X amount of games," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma was saying after an optional team practice yesterday at Wachovia Center.

Would you believe two Sykora goals in the past 20 games that he has played, counting the three games against the Flyers when he managed just five shots?

That's not nearly good enough for a player whose primary value to the Penguins -- some would say his only value -- is as a goal-scorer.

Now, maybe Sykora isn't healthy. It's not as if he's making excuses, but it's fair to wonder. His performance alone is enough to make you think he still might be bothered by some sort of shoulder or back problem. There's no way of telling for sure. The Penguins, as all NHL clubs do, treat injuries like state secrets and Sykora didn't take part in any on-ice work yesterday and wasn't available to discuss his health, his lack of goal-scoring production, Game 4 against the Flyers tonight, the rotten Philadelphia weather, the Steelers' draft prospects for this weekend or anything else, for that matter.

But Bylsma clearly believes Sykora is healthy enough to play. He would scratch him if he didn't. Bylsma didn't sound like a man yesterday who is thinking of taking Sykora out of his lineup anytime soon, mentioning Sykora's three good scoring chances in Game 3. But he also didn't sound like a guy who is going to be patient with Sykora forever.

Not at this time of the year.

Not with so much at stake.

"We have options with our depth," Bylsma said, mentioning Miroslav Satan as one possibility on Malkin's line and Max Talbot and Pascal Dupuis as two others.

I don't know about you, I don't like any of those options.

The Penguins thought so little of Satan that they sent him to the minors in early March. Although he has scored 354 career NHL goals -- 17 in 65 games this season before his demotion to Wilkes-Barre/Scranton -- he never quite lived up to the expectations that he would be an ideal linemate for Malkin or Sid Crosby. Sure, there were salary-cap issues after the trade for Bill Guerin. But, really, if management wanted to keep Satan, couldn't it have found another way to beat the cap? It's not as if the team missed him. It made most of its 18-3-4 finishing kick to the regular season without him.

Moving up Talbot or Dupuis from the fourth line and scratching Sykora isn't much of an answer, either. Now, you're messing with the chemistry of two lines. The Dupuis-Talbot-Craig Adams line has played OK in these playoffs. And there's no guarantee that Malkin would play better with a new linemate, although Talbot and Dupuis have skated on his wing in the past.

No, for now, as long as Sykora is healthy enough, he remains the best option for Malkin.

"He's been getting some good looks at the net in the last two or three games," Bylsma said. "That's what he needs to do to get some goals."

It's nice to think those Sykora chances will start paying off soon.

Like tonight.

For Sykora's sake, sure.

But also for Malkin and the Penguins.


Let's go Sykora...Let's go Pens!



http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09111/964277-87.stm

trauben
04-21-2009, 07:23 AM
I love the aggressive nature the Flyers have. They are like the Steelers on skates.
What? :horror::eyecrazy:
HELL NO! :thmbdown:

They're more like Ray-Ray's Ravens or old-school Raiders (think Madden's team and Jack Tatum), but the Steelers? No way in hell.

Huh? :jawdrop: Did you not watch Games 1 and 2?
Just like NBC. After game 3 all they did was gush over the flyers in the post-game interviews as if the Pens didn't dominate in the first game at all nor won game two! :jerkit:

X-Terminator
04-21-2009, 07:43 AM
Sorry HTG, but in Game 3 they were out manned. But I also think that may have more to do with the fact that the cryers were at home.

Tonight I think will be different.

She's not talking about Game 3, she's mentioning that this guy thinks they got outmuscled a lot throughout the series, and that simply isn't true. They outhit the Flyers 50-29 in game 2 and were even in game 1. Game 3 was the first game where the Flyers significantly outhit the Penguins, yet despite that, the Pens are still outhitting them in the series so far.

I also think tonight will be different. The Pens just need to avoid getting involved in the extracurricular stuff, capitalize on the numerous PPs that Flyers are bound to give them, and they should be OK.

Steel Head
04-21-2009, 07:43 AM
What? :horror::eyecrazy:
HELL NO! :thmbdown:

They're more like Ray-Ray's Ravens or old-school Raiders (think Madden's team and Jack Tatum), but the Steelers? No way in hell. :

Yeah, with all the whining and crying the Flyers do and their thuggish approach to the game, they are definitely more like the Ravens

X-Terminator
04-21-2009, 07:53 AM
The fact is, the pens dont have the big enforcers anymore. No Malone/Ruutu/Roberts/Georges...etc really hurts. They only have one big guy (Goddard) and a half (Cooke when he feels like it)

Although, the way Kunitz has been lighting people up, he may spark some people.

Cooke is not, nor has ever been, a fighter. He's a shit-stirrer who gets a bad case of turtle-itis and cement in his gloves whenever someone comes after him. You have no idea how hard it's been to support this guy this season, but he wears the skating penguin on his chest and he has played great with Staal and Kennedy, so I'm behind him. I'm still not a huge fan of his, though.

The Pens have one guy - Godard. After that, they have no one else who can step up effectively when the Flyers start fights and other crap. That's something I think they need to address this offseason, but I'm not sure if they really can with the personnel they have and with them still needing to find another scoring winger should they decide not to bring back Sykora and/or Guerin.

And it's looking like once again, Godard will not be dressed tonight after everything that happened on Sunday. Ya know Dan, you're really pissing me off with that. :banging:

pittsburghp8baller
04-21-2009, 09:07 AM
i think the only way we dress Godard is if they get news that the flyers are dressing riley cote. Since he would be to much of a liability to let skate a regular shift, we wont see that. So we are stuck with craig adams, who i think hasn't played to bad this series.

Cooke has been hard to cheer for during the season. He has never been one of my favorite players and his style of play doesnt make it easier. What does make it easy for me is how he, Tyler Kennedy and Jordan Staal have gelled together and at times, can be our best line

Gonna be an interesting game,

we gotta come out physical but dont overdo it, dont get suckered into bad penaltys

AND PLEASE SCORE A DAM POWERPLAY GOAL.

vasteeler
04-21-2009, 10:24 AM
I have to tell ya it feels really weird pulling against most of you guys,it almost feels as if i am a troll
BUT
GO FLYERS

SteelMember
04-21-2009, 11:12 AM
Improve the PP

1. Gain the blue line
2. Maintain the zone
3. 20 passes? Take a shot...someone! It always seems like it's Gonchar.

then,


PLEASE SCORE A DAM POWERPLAY GOAL.

Sometimes it looks like we're the man down. :banging:

Fire Haley
04-21-2009, 12:14 PM
Killer, Have you been e-mailing the post-gazette.

Phhhftp - they must know I have my finger on the pulse of this team.

They are probably stealing more of my ideas right as we speak.

trauben
04-21-2009, 12:56 PM
I have to tell ya it feels really weird pulling against most of you guys,it almost feels as if i am a troll
BUT
GO FLYERS
Pssst ...... you ARE while you're in this thread. :wink02:
http://www.highdefforum.com/image.php?u=52661&dateline=1209937476

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-21-2009, 03:51 PM
this guy thinks they got outmuscled a lot throughout the serie

That's not what I meant, but I guess I wasn't too clear in my original post. Let me try again. After being the more physical of the two teams by far in the first two games of the series, it was a shock to see them outmuscled during game 3. I am used to the Pens beating up on the Flyers like the orange jerseyed step childs they are.

BTW, I do have a name y'know!:flap:

Fire Haley
04-21-2009, 05:01 PM
GO FLYERS

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn170/photobomb111/untitled.jpg

X-Terminator
04-21-2009, 05:43 PM
That's not what I meant, but I guess I wasn't too clear in my original post. Let me try again. After being the more physical of the two teams by far in the first two games of the series, it was a shock to see them outmuscled during game 3. I am used to the Pens beating up on the Flyers like the orange jerseyed step childs they are.

BTW, I do have a name y'know!:flap:

OK, thanks for the clarification, and of course nobody would disagree with that. The Pens can't allow that to happen tonight, or it could be the same result.

BTW, I strongly believe that whoever wins tonight will win the series. So for that reason, I think it's a must-win game for the Pens.

HometownGal
04-21-2009, 05:48 PM
Sorry HTG, but in Game 3 they were out manned. But I also think that may have more to do with the fact that the cryers were at home.

Tonight I think will be different.


I thought IBBNG was referring to the series overall. My apologies to him for misinterpreting what he posted.

Yes - they were definitely outmuscled in Sunday's game and I agree that they were pretty emotionally charged, desperate and playing to their home audience. As I mentioned during and after that game, Fleury was off his game, which I feel was a huge factor. It happens to the best of 'em.

As for Sykora - I'm not going to ride his ass. He's in a major slump and again - it happens to the best of 'em. I think he's going to find his mojo again in the very near future. This is a guy who does give 150% each and every game and I'm going to keep pulling for him.

SteelCityMan786
04-21-2009, 07:23 PM
TK! TK! TK! TK!

HometownGal
04-21-2009, 07:52 PM
I'm lovin' this!!! A 2-0 Pens lead at the end of the 2nd. :banana: :applaudit:

It's going to be a tough 3rd as the Flyers are going to be bringing all they've got. Fleury has been absolutely outstanding in this game!

LETS GO PENS!!!!!! :tt03:

SteelCityMan786
04-21-2009, 08:05 PM
I'm lovin' this!!! A 2-0 Pens lead at the end of the 2nd. :banana: :applaudit:

It's going to be a tough 3rd as the Flyers are going to be bringing all they've got. Fleury has been absolutely outstanding in this game!

LETS GO PENS!!!!!! :tt03:

Not to mention they will be throwing everything including the kitchen sink at them.

SteelCityMan786
04-21-2009, 08:25 PM
They just made it 2-1. Come on guys, DON'T LOSE THE FAITH. KEEP YOUR COOL AND JUST PLAY!

SteelCityMan786
04-21-2009, 08:46 PM
How appropriate it is the Penguins win 3-1 and they get a 3-1 series lead?

HometownGal
04-21-2009, 08:47 PM
What an awesome game by The Flower and the Pens!!! We're up 3-1 on those orange bastards coming to Pittsburgh on Thursday night.

I'm proud of my guys - great job!!!! :drink: :hatsoff:

pittsburghp8baller
04-21-2009, 08:56 PM
No offense to the Staal line because they played great, but Fleury STOLE that game.

Great job Flower, keep it going and lets close down the flyers

HometownGal
04-21-2009, 09:06 PM
Fleury was just incredible in that net tonight. I've seen the kid play a lot of great games but I think this one was his greatest performance ever. :drink: Got to give a HUGE kudos to Gonchar in the waning minutes of the game. When one of the Flyers (can't remember exactly who) snuck in the back door behind Fleury and threaded the puck into the blue area in the crease hoping to find an orange shirt there to knock it in, Gonchar reacted quickly and poked it away from the net. :thumbsup::hatsoff:

Does anyone have an update on Kris Letang?

Steel Head
04-21-2009, 09:11 PM
Fleury needs to be a God.

Make it so.

you got your wish

Fleury was AMAZING

Pens need to play much better to close this series out on Thursday

SteelMember
04-21-2009, 09:22 PM
Now that was an awesome game by Fleury!

Flashin' the leather. Superb! :applaudit:

No soft rebounds tonight.

I got a little worried at the end when we seemed to just sit on the lead and not push the puck. We gave them too many chances that last 5:00 min, but I guess the thinking was we were killing them on faceoffs the entire game, so who cares. Just keep clearing the zone. :noidea:

We owned the boards all night.

Fire Haley
04-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Fleury: "I just get out there and try to stop the puck."

Haha.

OneForTheToe
04-21-2009, 11:53 PM
That was a great game by Fleury. Honestly, while I am proud of the way the Pens scraped in this game, with just good performance by Fleury(like Biron's) the Pens lose this game and we are tied 2-2.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
04-22-2009, 03:08 AM
Fleury was the only reason we won this game, he isn't getting any help out there

Shots on Goal: Pens-26 Flyers-46, that is a startling statistic. We only had like 3 or 4 shots on goal the entire 3rd period.

Hits: Pens-12 Flyers-24

So how our they shooting twice as much and hitting twice as much as our guys, yet they never seem to be out of position. It's like we are always shorthanded.

I wish there was a breakdown showing how much time it spent in our zone vs. theirs. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in our zone 60% of the time.

Edman
04-22-2009, 06:08 AM
When you don't have much offense in the playoffs, you need a dominant goaltender. Fleury rose to the occasion once again.

3-1 series lead is great. No matter what.

Fire Haley
04-22-2009, 06:13 AM
Bow down

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trauben
04-22-2009, 06:56 AM
Fleury was the only reason we won this game, he isn't getting any help out there

Shots on Goal: Pens-26 Flyers-46, that is a startling statistic. We only had like 3 or 4 shots on goal the entire 3rd period.
And it showed when he didn't have his best game (Game #3).

:heart:FLOWER POWER!:heart:

Amazing performance put in by MAF! The headline used on NHL.com is bull, "Fleury Steals a Win!" ... when you steal something it means you didn't earn it, and he earned it baby! :thumbsup:

The one save where he basically flipped backwards sprawling on the ice and saving that biscuit from sneaking into his kitchen by grasping at the post? AWESOME!

I would think that even Flyer fans had to be amazed at what they saw last night.............................wait, nevermind. They're Flyer fans. The only thing they had to have felt was the aggravation of hitting that brick wall in front of the net 45 times out of 46! :chuckle:


From Philly's news...........
http://media.philly.com/images/20090422_dn_Z1FLYS22S.JPG (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Penguins_3_Flyers_1.html)
Fleury stops a flurry for Penguins

By ED BARKOWITZ
Philadelphia Daily News

ASK NEARLY everybody in orange and black to sum up last night's performance and the answer is just about the same.

The Flyers felt good about the way they played, even if they lost, 3-1. Defenseman Kimmo Timonen was among those who contended that if they play as they did last night, when they peppered Penguins goalie Marc-Andre Fleury with 46 shots and played reasonably sound defensively, they should be able to climb back into this NHL Eastern Conference quarterfinal.

Problem is, it's a deep hole. Unless the Flyers can turn around the 3-1 deficit they now face, it will be Game 4 that will be remembered for turning this series around, in the Penguins' favor.

And if the CSI examined the body, they'd find Fleury's fingerprints all over the place.

"He was unbelievable," Timonen said. "We pretty much threw everything at him."

The only Flyer to solve Fleury was Daniel Carcillo, who scored his first career playoff goal in his third career playoff game. Every other Flyers except Jared Ross attempted at least one shot on goal. They all were denied.

Fleury stopped 26 shots at even strength, three when the Penguins were shorthanded and 16 others when the Flyers had a man advantage. The Flyers failed to connect on eight power plays that lasted 12 minutes, 47 seconds.

He made 18 saves in the third period, including his favorite of the night. "The one-timer by [Mike] Richards on my left side," Fleury recalled. "I think on the power play on the pad. That was pretty fun."

Richards had the primary assist on the goal and was probably the Flyers' best player. He also flattened Rob Scuderi and Craig Adams with a pair of booming hits that, before the goal, were basically the only reasons for the 19,883 at the Wachovia Center to get excited.

"It's a physical series, you just want to finish your checks and make it hard on them," Richards said. "It was an intense game, a physical game. I thought maybe we deserved a better fate, but it is what is and we move on."

The Flyers are 0-13 when trailing a series 3-1. The Penguins became the first road team to win a game in this series.

"If you're going to have success in the playoffs, you need performances like that from your goaltender," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma said. "He certainly gave a memorable one tonight."

Marty Biron had some shaky moments for the Flyers, but made 23 saves and could hardly be blamed for the two goals he allowed.

"They took the play to us [in Game 1]. But then to lose in overtime on a 5-on-3 [in Game 2] and to lose the way we played tonight, I mean that's very tight," Biron said.

"It's 3-1, but it's very tight. For us, we have to look at it that way and respond." *

trauben
04-22-2009, 07:10 AM
Oh, and then there was this horse :poop: from their coach.

Will Penguins' fans answer team's call?

Flyers coach John Stevens, not surprisingly, believes Flyers fans are more passionate than Penguins fans and said as much after the morning skate yesterday.

Penguins center Sidney Crosby was asked how Pittsburgh fans might respond tomorrow in Game 5 to Stevens' assertion. "I'm sure they'll answer," he said. "I'm not worried about that."

Meanwhile, Penguins defenseman Hal Gill had his own take on Flyers fans. "They're on the edge of cleanliness, I would say. It's crazy," he said. "You just hope your kids don't use some of the language you hear." *

- Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20090422_Will_Penguins__fans_answer_team_s_call_.h tmlIt's

It is not wise to have said that before securing win #2 and risk going into an elimination game IN Pittsburgh and in front of those same fans you criticized. Talk about giving the 'edge' to your opponents by enticing a riot in the igloo! :thumbsup:

BTW Stevens ........ who's games have been consistently sold out the longest? Yeah, I thought so!

trauben
04-22-2009, 07:16 AM
Caption these two Victors................


http://cdn3.sbnation.com/photo_images/37379/45747_Penguins_Flyers_Hockey.jpg

Sid: "Way to 'be the wall' Flower!"
MAF: "Thanks!" "Next game though, can the rest of you bring it?"

SteelMember
04-22-2009, 07:20 AM
It is not wise to have said that before securing win #2 and risk going into an elimination game IN Pittsburgh and in front of those same fans you criticized. Talk about giving the 'edge' to your opponents by enticing a riot in the igloo! :thumbsup:

Just like the Pens, I doubt the fans will need any extra motivation in a possible elimination game. That hatred has been there for a long, long time.

stlrtruck
04-22-2009, 07:27 AM
Unfortunately, I was battling a 3 year old for most of the night and didn't get to see the game at all. By the time I got her to bed and back in my seat, the game was over!!!

I might have to beat her like she's a flyer!

trauben
04-22-2009, 07:31 AM
Just like the Pens, I doubt the fans will need any extra motivation in a possible elimination game. That hatred has been there for a long, long time.
Precisely! :tt02:

Unfortunately, I was battling a 3 year old for most of the night and didn't get to see the game at all. By the time I got her to bed and back in my seat, the game was over!!!

I might have to beat her like she's a flyer!
I was going to say that FSN has it's 'REWIND' show, but if you're in FL, I'm going to say you don't get it? I don't know if they're on DISH or not, but you could try to look for them.

Another great shot of MAF's amazing performance last night.........

http://www.thepensblog.bloguin.com/images/stories/2009_playoffs/gamedays/round1game4/picture_1.png

trauben
04-22-2009, 07:36 AM
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Steel Head
04-22-2009, 07:36 AM
I'm hoping the Pens come out strong on Thursday and we see another Biron/Cryers meltdown like in Game 5 last year