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steel9guy
04-17-2009, 09:19 PM
I am a huge Hines Ward fan but since he's getting old everyone thinks he's not gonna get signed. Does anyone on here think he'll be signed or have information on it?

St33lersguy
04-17-2009, 09:35 PM
If he really wants to end his career as a steeler I imagine he will take a pay cut.

mesaSteeler
04-17-2009, 09:44 PM
If he really wants to end his career as a steeler I imagine he will take a pay cut.

If he doesn't I'm not sure we will be able to afford him. I hope we can but Hines did hold out last time and the negotiations were difficult..

Given his age and injury history would he be worth breaking the bank for? After all we have a lot of players over thirty and we will need to resign our younger players like Heath Miller and Santinio Holmes.

I would love for Ward to retire a Steeler but I'm not sure it will happen.

PisnNapalm
04-17-2009, 10:11 PM
I want Hines to retire as a Steeler. He embodies the Steeler Way. He deserves the team's loyalty too.

MasterOfPuppets
04-17-2009, 10:44 PM
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BehindSteelCurtain
04-18-2009, 12:16 AM
Hines will either sign or retire. I'd expect him to retire when his contract is up. I'd imagine he would want to end on a SB, like bettis.

tony hipchest
04-18-2009, 12:29 AM
If he doesn't I'm not sure we will be able to afford him. I hope we can but Hines did hold out last time and the negotiations were difficult..

Given his age and injury history would he be worth breaking the bank for? After all we have a lot of players over thirty and we will need to resign our younger players like Heath Miller and Santinio Holmes.

I would love for Ward to retire a Steeler but I'm not sure it will happen.what he did hold out for was the right to count $8.75 mil against our cap this year, and while he hardly ever ran the ball, threw it, or increased on his single season best stats, since signing that last deal, the steelers never asked him to take a reduction.

i really believes hines sees that stallworth, swann, bradshaw, greene, lambert, bettis, and even franco, have the keys to the city and have all went on to very lucrative careers beyond football. much in thanks to the steeler lore.

i believe he wants to be a part of that, and recognizes that taking less money to remain a steeler is actually an investment in his future.

stillers4me
04-18-2009, 06:13 AM
My crystal ball sees him announcing his retirement with a Lombardi tropohy in his hand ala Jerome. He'll take the hometown discount a year at a time to make it happen.

A reporter asked him a question retirement at the parade and he just smiled that smile of his and said he wasn't going anywhere. I believe him.

Galax Steeler
04-18-2009, 06:39 AM
I think Ward wants to retire a Steeler. I can see him taking a discount to do it to.

IamTheSteelGod
04-18-2009, 06:50 AM
Hines Ward PITTSBURGH 82Rec 1047yrd 12.8 7TD's

The stats don't lie lads and he was our leading reciever last year. He is still one of Big Bens 1st down homies, he still goes through the middle, he still blocks like a demon. So what if he is in his 30's. Since when have any of us seen his work ethic demise? I love Ward, he is here for a few more years, that tough cookie aint going nowhere and it would be rude not to resign him, and **** hometown discount, if he his playing like a primary reciever then pay him what he deserves. :tt02:

Hines0wnz
04-18-2009, 06:54 PM
Why would he need to take a pay cut? No one plays like him. Not Holmes and certainly no one else on the roster and most WRs on anyone's roster. He may not get a big contract if he decides to stick around a few more seasons but it is presumptuous to say he should get less money when his skills have obviously not diminished.

He started a Steeler and he will finish a Steeler. :tt02:

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-18-2009, 07:18 PM
Hines will make the deal to retire a Steeler

Steel Head
04-20-2009, 08:32 AM
Considering that Ward still has a year left on his contract, I am pretty sure he will play next year

rbryan
04-20-2009, 09:20 AM
Ward is an icon in Pittsburgh, he would be crazy to sign elsewhere just to squeeze a few more bucks out of his playing career.

He can write his own ticket in the Burgh after football

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-20-2009, 09:24 AM
He is 33 years old. I hope to see him sign an extension for 3 years and lighten the cap hit on his contract. He can easily play to 36 and be a valuable part of this team.............and make a case for HOF, which I think is a goal of his.

lilyoder6
04-20-2009, 09:26 AM
i think he can play 3 more yrs as well.. but that could involve him moving to the slot after a yr or 2...

he may take a cut.. but u never know

steelreserve
04-20-2009, 11:16 AM
I don't think he'll retire any time soon. He's a WR who doesn't rely on just speed, and those guys can hang around forever. Maybe he won't be getting 80 catches a year or making $8 million anymore, but he strikes me as the kind of guy who could play until he's pushing 40 if he wanted to.

steeltheone
04-20-2009, 04:42 PM
We must sign our younger players first...Then deal w Ward.

AllD
04-20-2009, 06:14 PM
It was announced on NFL Network on Sirius that he will not hold out in his final year.

steelreserve
04-20-2009, 06:30 PM
It was announced on NFL Network on Sirius that he will not hold out in his final year.

Well, yeah, because I think holding out twice because of the same contract -- once to get it in the first place and again because you decided you're not happy -- would automatically qualify you as a jerk.

stillers4me
04-20-2009, 06:51 PM
Eight vets miss Steelers first spring practice
Monday, April 20, 2009
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
At least eight Steelers veterans did not turn out for the team's first spring practice today, but Hines Ward said not to read anything into the missing.

"We have the main core of guys," said Ward. "Some guys aren't here, some guys' flights got canceled and lot of guys didn't make it. We never had that problem. Once training camp comes around and minicamp next week, we'll have the full team. Everybody will be here. We never had that problem with us."

Among the missing were Santonio Holmes, Willie Parker, Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Larry Foote, Lawrence Timmons, Tyrone Carter and Nick Eason.

Holmes' flight from Florida was delayed, and Ward said the Super Bowl MVP arrived in Pittsburgh too late for the workout which ended at noon. It was the first of 14 voluntary spring workouts that will be held through June 11. A required minicamp will be held May 1-3.

Ward is among a large group of Steelers who enter the final year of their contracts. The last time that happened, Ward held out for the first two weeks of training camp in 2005. He said that won't happen this year, no matter what. Linebacker James Harrison is the only player who had one year left and whose contract was extended this year.

"The contract, we're just going to play and whatever happens happens,'' Ward said.

"I want to be a Steeler . . . I don't want to put on another uniform. I'm late in the game now to worry about it. You look at all the previous players who went on and played for other places. I learned a lot from Jerome [Bettis], what he did. I want to go down in Steelers history to be one of the better wideouts to wear the black and gold."Ward did not practice today because he is recovering from surgery to repair a torn left rotator cuff after the season. He said he will gradually work himself into things.

Hampton says he'll be ready

Nose tackle Casey Hampton, who skipped most of the voluntary workouts last year, turned out for the first this year and said he will be a frequent participant this spring. He's another player entering the final year of his deal, but said he's not worried.

"They didn't do it last time until training camp so I wouldn't expect anything different. My recent history with coming in out of shape, I think they'll want to see how I'm coming in."

He has no plans to alter his training routine, though. Last year, he spent the first two weeks of camp on the physically unable to perform list because coach Mike Tomlin declared him not in shape to practice.

"It is what is is,'' Hampton said. "I'll be ready to play, that's the bottom line. Whenever, Sept. 10 or 11? I'll be ready to go. That's all that matters."

Super Bowl hangover?

Both Ward and Hampton said they want to win another Super Bowl this season, and their 2006 season taught them something about the so-called Super Bowl hangover.

"I think last time we got a little bit lax," Hampton said. "I think that's going to help us this time and we won't get as complacent as we did last time.''

Ward said his personal goal is to reach 10,000 yards receiving -- he needs 220 yards to do so -- and win a third Super Bowl in five seasons.

"I want to win another one. The teams in the '70s, they won four. If we can win another one, then I think we'll be right up there with New England as one of the teams in the 'dynasty' since I've been here. So, winning another Super Bowl and accomplishing 10,000 yards would be a big thing for me personally.''



NOTES -- Kevin Colbert, the Steelers' director of football operations, said RB Gary Russell was released last week to make room under the salary cap to re-sign backup QB Charlie Batch ... Jared Retkofsy, who became the Steelers' long snapper last season after Greg Warren's ACL was torn, has his right arm in a sling following surgery after a motorcycle accident. Warren snapped in practice today ... Also practicing after 2008 season-ending injuries were RB Rashard Mendenhall (broken shoulder), P Daniel Sepulveda (ACL) and Batch (broken collar bone).

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09110/964185-100.stm


Ed Bouchette can be reached at ebouchette@post-gazette.com

Rek
04-20-2009, 07:27 PM
He'll stay. I couldn't imagine him wearing any other colors than black n gold. :tt02:

tony hipchest
04-20-2009, 07:47 PM
My crystal ball sees him announcing his retirement with a Lombardi tropohy in his hand ala Jerome. He'll take the hometown discount a year at a time to make it happen.

A reporter asked him a question retirement at the parade and he just smiled that smile of his and said he wasn't going anywhere. I believe him.

good call stillers4me...



i really believes hines sees that stallworth, swann, bradshaw, greene, lambert, bettis, and even franco, have the keys to the city and have all went on to very lucrative careers beyond football. much in thanks to the steeler lore.

i believe he wants to be a part of that, and recognizes that taking less money to remain a steeler is actually an investment in his future.

as we were saying (straight from the horses mouth)-

"I want to be a Steeler . . . I don't want to put on another uniform. I'm late in the game now to worry about it. You look at all the previous players who went on and played for other places. I learned a lot from Jerome [Bettis], what he did. I want to go down in Steelers history to be one of the better wideouts to wear the black and gold."Ward did not practice today because he is recovering from surgery to repair a torn left rotator cuff after the season. He said he will gradually work himself into things.

now for contract extension he counts about 9 mil this year. extend him 3 more years at 5,4,3, per year regressively = 4 yrs/$21 mil.

guarantee $12-13 mil which is about double what he is scheduled to make this season.

reduce his cap hit this year to about $6 mil (if we need the space), which would mean pushing $2 mil per season into the 3 remaining years.

year 2 = 7 mil cap hit
year 3 = 6 mil
year 4 = 5 mil

i would prefer not having to reduce this years hit and save an extra mil/ season for the next 3 years.

this would be a very fair and generous offer and i dont think it takes into account a hometown discount i think we can get.

EDIT- after posting this, i read the parameters of the torry holt to JAX 3 year deal (holt is a year younger than ward and statistically more accomplished)...

The deal contract is worth $13 million, and can reach $20 million with incentives. It includes a base salary of $4 million (all guaranteed) for the upcoming season, in addition to salaries of $4 million and $5 million in 2010 and 2011.

and am convinced my scenario was very generous. :thumbsup: leverage to extend ward. i like it!