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Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 03:26 PM
I seen Summer projected as a 5th round pick, I would like him with one of the 5ths

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:26 PM
I'm concerned we're ignoring the O-line again . . . hopefully we pick up Robinson or Shipley here, because we've struck out on most of the good O-linemen.

The Florida tackle Watkins is still on the board I think. But, if the Steelers truly value Moon grad Shipley..........I think we see him selected soon. This is around where his stock is valued.

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:27 PM
So maybe Shipley or Cadogan for us?

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Obviously the Steelers know what they are doing, but damn I wanted Robinson.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:27 PM
And there goes Robinson. My theory is true!

Yeah, imagine Duke Robinson and Jeff Otah on the right side of that line. That's a lot of beef. :jawdrop:

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:28 PM
Yeah, imagine Duke Robinson and Jeff Otah on the right side of that line. That's a lot of beef. :jawdrop:

No wonder Stewart and Williams will be tearing it up again this year. Sheesh!

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:29 PM
Anybody in for Marlon Favorite or Myron Pryor as a backup NT selected in the 5th???

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:30 PM
Saints trade a next year's pick to move up and take a punter. At this time, the Saints are done with their picks. What the????

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:31 PM
Or, Joel Bell, Jason Watkins or AQ Shipley.

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:31 PM
Saints trade a next year's pick to move up and take a punter. At this time, the Saints are done with their picks. What the????

We've seen some real headscratchers in this draft. Doesn't surprise me now.

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:31 PM
I have absolutely no idea who the Steelers will take with these next two picks. It does seem like Shipley is a possibility. I doubt if they take two PSU guys back to back.

ricksteelers55
04-26-2009, 03:32 PM
I have a feeling we take a DL and RB

kkeener16
04-26-2009, 03:33 PM
shipley and javon ringer

billybob
04-26-2009, 03:33 PM
We are about to find out BABY !!!!!, seems like a long time to wait , but here wo go .

ricksteelers55
04-26-2009, 03:34 PM
shipley and javon ringer

Id love Shipley and Jennings

BubbyBrister
04-26-2009, 03:34 PM
I'd really enjoy getting Shipley.
He seemed like a good fit when I read about him during his visit.

However, I will admit that I never watched film on him or too many games to really say that I feel he would be a good player at the NFL level.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 03:34 PM
I'm concerned we're ignoring the O-line again . . . hopefully we pick up Robinson or Shipley here, because we've struck out on most of the good O-linemen.

I wouldn't say they have ingnored it. But, I would like an O'linemen with one of these two picks. Remember in the first three rounds you have pick guys who can make the roster because they would likely be picked up off the pratice squad. We don't have enough spots open to realistically think more than two o'linemen will make the roster.

Pittsburghfan
04-26-2009, 03:35 PM
AQ shipley and Frank Summers my guesses.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:35 PM
Ooooh............Darryl Beckwith is still on the board!!

Texasteel
04-26-2009, 03:35 PM
Anybody in for Marlon Favorite or Myron Pryor as a backup NT selected in the 5th???

Pryor, not sure about Favorite.

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:36 PM
I guess Baker from Hampton.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 03:37 PM
Please not a QB

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:37 PM
They can pass and take the double time since it is back to back I believe.

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 03:37 PM
the alarm just went off
Its 5,37 am and I want me some Frantz Joseph

Texasteel
04-26-2009, 03:38 PM
Ooooh............Darryl Beckwith is still on the board!!

OMG are you serious.

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:38 PM
Joe Burnett!

Hmmm, never heard of him.

Pittsburghfan
04-26-2009, 03:38 PM
We picked... Joe Burnett CB? Thats confusing to me.

ajs8207
04-26-2009, 03:38 PM
They can pass and take the double time since it is back to back I believe.

Correct

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 03:38 PM
Herman Johnson? Oh sorry that was to the cards>

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 03:38 PM
of course, nfl to commercial

The Definiti0n
04-26-2009, 03:38 PM
come man.....who is this guy?

billybob
04-26-2009, 03:39 PM
Wow , did not expect that pick.

SaskSteeler
04-26-2009, 03:39 PM
joe burnett????

Pittsburghfan
04-26-2009, 03:39 PM
and Frank the Tank Summers!

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:39 PM
JOE BURNETT
5'9.5", 192
4.58

BIOGRAPHY: Four-year starter awarded all-Conference honors at both cornerback and return specialist since his freshman season. Defensive totals last year included 44/4/11 when he also averaged 28.7 yards on 26 kick returns with two scores and a 14.5 yard average on 26 punt returns. Junior defensive totals included 64/6/12 with 50/1/3 as a sophomore.

POSITIVES: Solid cover cornerback who brings the element of a return specialist to his game. Physical, aggressively comes up the field to defend the run or mixes it up with opponents out of routes. Displays good awareness, has a burst of closing speed, and possesses good ball skills. Quickly breaks to the pass, and he is a hard hitter who lays his body on the line to stop opponents.

NEGATIVES: Not fluid pedaling in reverse, and does not possess the top-end speed. Coming off a disappointing senior campaign.

ANALYSIS: Burnett has been very productive on the college level and nicely projects to the NFL as a sixth or seventh defensive back that will be used to return punts or kicks. He lacks the great upside, yet he has enough skill to be a productive player for an NFL team.

PROJECTION: Sixth Round

The Definiti0n
04-26-2009, 03:39 PM
come man Frank Summers?

Texasteel
04-26-2009, 03:39 PM
Well, they weren't blowing smoke.

ajs8207
04-26-2009, 03:39 PM
Burnett is a punt returner.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 03:40 PM
wooohooo Frank Summers!!!

billybob
04-26-2009, 03:40 PM
And a running back to boot.

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:40 PM
Frank the Tank baby!

Everybody happy now? :chuckle:

stillers4me
04-26-2009, 03:40 PM
Burnett is a punt returner.

How many do we need?

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:40 PM
punt returner it sounds like to me

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:41 PM
I expected Burnett, but only if we didnt already select Lewis. Gonna have too many guys in camp.

The positive is that Burnett is supposed to be an explosive returner and big hitter. Now or never for Shipley.

ricksteelers55
04-26-2009, 03:41 PM
40 yd dash is 4.57 ive seen faster punt returner

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Tomlin on NFL network now.

SaskSteeler
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Does our front office have something against drafting offensive linemen?

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
We all know about Summers, this is a good pick.

Burnett came in for a visit. Good CB with great return skills, looks like the FO is serious about improving the Special Teams with this and the Wallace pick.

Hard to believe that Cadogan is still there.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Sorry mistyped - tomiln on NFL network.

Just said Burnett is good returner . Said Tank would be good on special teams.

Said O'line is a work in process. Said protection is for everybody including Ben - which is probably why they hate each other.:wink02::chuckle:

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
I love the Summers pick, but thought he would still be around in the 6th.

Please be the replacement for Carey Davis.......PLEASE!!

Pittsburghfan
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Frank the Tank baby!

Everybody happy now? :chuckle:

Yes!! :tt02:

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
How many do we need?

Enough for a ten-way camp battle I guess. :noidea:

steelerinmd
04-26-2009, 03:43 PM
FRANK SUMMERS

5'9.5", 241
4.65

BIOGRAPHY: Two-year starter who led UNLV in rushing the past two seasons, posting 183/740/8 as a senior, while also adding 13/150/2 as a pass catcher.

POSITIVES: Explosive, well-built ball carrier best running north-south. Patient back who waits for blocks to develop and finds the running lanes. Runs with an aggressive style, turns his shoulders up the field, and drives through the hole, running over opponents. Keeps the play in bounds working to pick up as much yardage as possible and a punishing runner on the inside. Follows blocks everywhere on the field, and displays a good amount of quickness. Powerful in his lower body, breaks arm tackles to pick up yardage off initial contact, or falls forward when tackled. Nifty for a 240-pound back.

NEGATIVES: Not an elusive ball carrier who creates yardage. Loses a lot of momentum when he must change direction. Lacks the speed and agility to turn the corner.

ANALYSIS: Summers has been a productive ball carrier at UNLV, yet he was out of place in their spread offense last season. He offers potential as a short-yardage ball carrier or blocking back who can be placed on the field during third-down situations.

PROJECTION: Free Agent

ajs8207
04-26-2009, 03:43 PM
Tomlin on NFL network now.

What's he saying?

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:44 PM
I love the Summers pick, but thought he would still be around in the 6th.

Please be the replacement for Carey Davis.......PLEASE!!

DITTO!

fordfan485
04-26-2009, 03:44 PM
I would have put money that one of those 5th round picks would have been for Shipley, but another corner? you know just when you think the steelers wouldn't have us scratch our heads this year with a bozo pick they go and pick this guy.

Pittsburghfan
04-26-2009, 03:44 PM
What ever happened to Jorvorski Lane? I completely forgot about him.

stillers4me
04-26-2009, 03:44 PM
Enough for a ten-way camp battle I guess. :noidea:

Tomlin does seem to love the competition and special teams seems to be his pet project. :hunch:

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:45 PM
The 5'11'', 192-pound Burnett is an intriguing player. He could possibly take the Steelers special teams to a whole new level.

He started four seasons for UCF and excelled as a defensive back and return man.
In 2008, he had 44 tackles and four interceptions for 104 yards.

NFL Draft guru Mike Mayock said "Joe Burnett is a very good player." and then handed Burnett the Golden Corral "Best Value" among corner backs during the NFL Network's coverage of the Combine.

I also feel Burnett can be a strong performer in nickel coverage and as a kick/punt returner. At the Combine, Burnett ranked among the top corner back performers in the bench press, 60-yard shuttle and cone drill.

He also excelled during the individual pass coverage drills.
Although smaller than most teams would like in a starter, Burnett could be a very good fit in the Steelers return game.

Burnett completed his UCF career as the school's record holder in numerous major categories including 16 career interceptions and 1,304 punt return yards. Burnett is the Conference USA career record holder for most punt return yards and ranks 19th in NCAA history in that category.
He also ranks second in C-USA annals with his 16 career interceptions. He scored a total of five career special teams touchdowns including a UCF-record three on punt returns

He has very good breakaway speed and returned a few punts and kicks for touchdowns last season. He is not afraid of getting physical.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/159302-could-pittsburgh-have-a-holmes-jr-the-read-up-on-joe-burnett

Pittsburghfan
04-26-2009, 03:46 PM
Some kicker out ran and out benched Maualuaga and Clay Matthews? Wow

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 03:46 PM
Tomlin seemed pretty high on Burnett in the interview on nfl network. Likes him a lot.

KeiselPower99
04-26-2009, 03:46 PM
Frank the Tank!!!!! Worse kept secret among us on here.

billybob
04-26-2009, 03:46 PM
I really would like to see Shipley in Black and Gold.

The Definiti0n
04-26-2009, 03:47 PM
I guess with Urbik and Hills our Front office feels fine with or O-Line Depth. I still wish we could have added another D-Lineman.

Texasteel
04-26-2009, 03:47 PM
What ever happened to Jorvorski Lane? I completely forgot about him.

ate himself out of the draft.

jjpro11
04-26-2009, 03:47 PM
Tomlin mentioned Bruce Davis a couple times now, both on ESPN and NFL Network.. i would guess Davis will have a chance at getting some decent playing time.

fansince'76
04-26-2009, 03:48 PM
ate himself out of the draft.

Wasn't Lane the same one that looked like a giant pile of chewed bubble gum when he took his shirt off in front of a group of scouts?

billybob
04-26-2009, 03:49 PM
When is our next scheduled pick ?

SunshineMan21
04-26-2009, 03:49 PM
How many fifth string CBs do we need, though? I mean, we have one of the worst offensive lines in the game--wouldn't it seem like a good strategy to at least take a few late round fliers on guys who have dropped?

The FO must really not like any of the O-linemen available, because it would have been really easy for us to get someone like Meredith or Robinson . . . . when our starting RG/RT are Stapleton and Colon, I'm not sure that it makes sense to add guys who barely have a shot at making the team over O-linemen.

Pittsburghfan
04-26-2009, 03:50 PM
ate himself out of the draft.

Oh.. okay,:popcorn:
Frank will be our short yardage back. I hope.

Vincent
04-26-2009, 03:50 PM
What ever happened to Jorvorski Lane? I completely forgot about him.

He died in a buffet.

Seriously, I had pimped him a little. But I'm happy with Summers. We need a bowling ball like Jones Drew. And Summers is a larger version of that concept

Texasteel
04-26-2009, 03:51 PM
Wasn't Lane the same one that looked like a giant pile of chewed bubble gum when he took his shirt off in front of a group of scouts?

Thats the guy. If we would have taken him it would have been as a OG.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:51 PM
I guess with Urbik and Hills our Front office feels fine with or O-Line Depth. I still wish we could have added another D-Lineman.

Still might see Joel Bell or Jason Watkins. I dont think we need another guard, but I had Greg Isdaner of WVU on the radar as a late pick or UDFA too.

Myron Pryor or Antonio Dixon could be NT prospects as well. Still have 3 picks, so lets hope for the best.

Vincent
04-26-2009, 03:54 PM
How many fifth string CBs do we need, though? I mean, we have one of the worst offensive lines in the game--wouldn't it seem like a good strategy to at least take a few late round fliers on guys who have dropped?

The FO must really not like any of the O-linemen available, because it would have been really easy for us to get someone like Meredith or Robinson . . . . when our starting RG/RT are Stapleton and Colon, I'm not sure that it makes sense to add guys who barely have a shot at making the team over O-linemen.

Everything coming out of the coach's and FO mouths indicate that they're happy with the Oline.

Why we have 40 returner candidates and a bunch of smerf CBs mystifies me. But with the exception of Burnett, I like the draft so far.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 03:54 PM
Had to switch to ESPN. NFL network is off to knob slopping on Beleprick "noone knows talent like ..... " how many Super bowls has he won in the last four years?

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:55 PM
How many fifth string CBs do we need, though? I mean, we have one of the worst offensive lines in the game--wouldn't it seem like a good strategy to at least take a few late round fliers on guys who have dropped?

The FO must really not like any of the O-linemen available, because it would have been really easy for us to get someone like Meredith or Robinson . . . . when our starting RG/RT are Stapleton and Colon, I'm not sure that it makes sense to add guys who barely have a shot at making the team over O-linemen.

Colon is a very good lineman and I think you will see him get a contract extension next year. Stapleton is a serviceable backup and will probably end up behind Urbik before the season is out.

The Steelers invested a lot of $$ in Starks and Kemo, so I think those guys are locks, but I hope Hills, Essex or Capizzi can play LT in 2010, because I hate giving Starks $8.5million a year.

stillers4me
04-26-2009, 03:55 PM
He offers potential as a short-yardage ball carrier or blocking back who can be placed on the field during third-down situations.

Thank you Tomlin and Colbert.

Texasteel
04-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Burnett is a pretty good player. A little surprised with the pick, but not going to question the staff that brought us SB win #6

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Is Cadogin still out there or did somebody pick him up???

fansince'76
04-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Had to switch to ESPN. NFL network is off to knob slopping on Beleprick "noone knows talent like ..... "

Talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire....

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 03:57 PM
Oh.. okay,:popcorn:
Frank will be our short yardage back. I hope.

I think Summers is a better receiver and RB than Carey Davis. I really think that he fits Arians idea of what he wants in a FB as compared to guys like Kreider, Lester, etc. Carey Davis brings nothing to the position offensively and is 15-20lbs lighter than Summers as a blocker.

Texasteel
04-26-2009, 03:57 PM
Is Cadogin still out there or did somebody pick him up???

Been looking for him and have not seen his name. Could be a great pick right now.

santoniosbabysmomma
04-26-2009, 03:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okb5nm1TK-0 check out the hit summers lays on the returner as a KICKER - sepulveda style

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 03:58 PM
Colon is a very good lineman and I think you will see him get a contract extension next year. Stapleton is a serviceable backup and will probably end up behind Urbik before the season is out.

The Steelers invested a lot of $$ in Starks and Kemo, so I think those guys are locks, but I hope Hills, Essex or Capizzi can play LT in 2010, because I hate giving Starks $8.5million a year.

Don't forget about Legursky, someday at guard or center. Don't know if he will ever be good enough of start, but the Steelers seem to like him as one of their projects.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 03:59 PM
Talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire....

True dat ... I just keep the recall button close.:chuckle:

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 03:59 PM
Is Cadogin still out there or did somebody pick him up???

Yes he is gonz

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index

I am watching this from a net draft cast. Down the bottom of the cast is a running list of who is available.

Back to bed for another quick kip. See you for the next pick

billybob
04-26-2009, 04:00 PM
How many fifth string CBs do we need, though? I mean, we have one of the worst offensive lines in the game--wouldn't it seem like a good strategy to at least take a few late round fliers on guys who have dropped?

The FO must really not like any of the O-linemen available, because it would have been really easy for us to get someone like Meredith or Robinson . . . . when our starting RG/RT are Stapleton and Colon, I'm not sure that it makes sense to add guys who barely have a shot at making the team over O-linemen.

Here we go again , i won't even get started on this subject!!!!!!! I will say as much......shows the nation the faith the Steelers have in our....................... never mind.

jjpro11
04-26-2009, 04:04 PM
I think Summers is a better receiver and RB than Carey Davis. I really think that he fits Arians idea of what he wants in a FB as compared to guys like Kreider, Lester, etc. Carey Davis brings nothing to the position offensively and is 15-20lbs lighter than Summers as a blocker.

i like Sean Mchugh to play that role personally.. he did great for us and fills in as a FB and TE, saving us a roster spot. i thought Davis would be the odd man out this training camp, but with Russell getting cut he may still keep his job here. Davis will probably be competing with Summers now instead.

SunshineMan21
04-26-2009, 04:08 PM
Here we go again , i won't even get started on this subject!!!!!!! I will say as much......shows the nation the faith the Steelers have in our....................... never mind.

I'm actually one of the biggest fans of the FO on this board--I think in general they've drafted very well, especially in the first round. I also like most of this draft . . . really every pick so far except Burnett.

Also, to a previous poster--every known metric would disagree with the assessment that Colon is a "very good lineman." He is an adequate run-blocking RT who is an absolute disaster in pass-protection. While I like Stapleton, having him as a starting RG is somewhat worrying.

BPA is a good strategy in general, but I think it starts to break down somewhat in the later rounds when it's not clear that the BPA will even make the team.

I have faith in the FO, but as I said it seems like we would've been benefitted much more by trading up (and Colbert even admitted they were trying to do this but couldn't find a partner).

So what I take from this is that we probably wanted Loadholt/Beatty/Unger in the second, didn't get them, and don't think any of the lower-rated linemen is worth a damn.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 04:13 PM
Yes he is gonz

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index

I am watching this from a net draft cast. Down the bottom of the cast is a running list of who is available.

Back to bed for another quick kip. See you for the next pick

Cadogan hasn't been picked yet

Psyychoward86
04-26-2009, 04:18 PM
Zach Miller, TE to the Jags??? Isnt there a tight end in Oakland by the same name :flap:

UCF_Cardinals
04-26-2009, 04:24 PM
You all got a potential steal with Joe Burnett. He doesn't have top-end speed (he's been clocked in the 4.49 range, not sure what happened at the combine), but really excels at reading the QB and jumpin' routes, and has hops. Also, his return abilities are instict-based, creates something out of nothing and has a knack for making the first man -- or more -- miss. Here's a few Youtube links, the last one just shows he's fearless (or crazy).

Picked off Texas/Colt McCoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czuj37UKXbY

A few TD returns (Also had one vs Miami)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10F5Ma4qRHw

No Fair Catch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXkn3JoDpWs&feature=related

lilyoder6
04-26-2009, 04:30 PM
crazy stuff..

if we are going to use summers has a fb.. then i am fine with the pick,, but if we are gonna try and use him as a rb.. then i;m upset.. b/c i think jennings would be a better rb than he is

billybob
04-26-2009, 04:31 PM
I'm actually one of the biggest fans of the FO on this board--I think in general they've drafted very well, especially in the first round. I also like most of this draft . . . really every pick so far except Burnett.

Also, to a previous poster--every known metric would disagree with the assessment that Colon is a "very good lineman." He is an adequate run-blocking RT who is an absolute disaster in pass-protection. While I like Stapleton, having him as a starting RG is somewhat worrying.

BPA is a good strategy in general, but I think it starts to break down somewhat in the later rounds when it's not clear that the BPA will even make the team.

I have faith in the FO, but as I said it seems like we would've been benefitted much more by trading up (and Colbert even admitted they were trying to do this but couldn't find a partner).

So what I take from this is that we probably wanted Loadholt/Beatty/Unger in the second, didn't get them, and don't think any of the lower-rated linemen is worth a damn.

I'm not raggin on you personally ,but the basic consensis of the media , and a lot of fanbase , is that our o-line is a major problem for our team . Well , the draft should flush that idea down the toilet , just as i thought , and believed , and strived to convince those that had concerns about it all the long. I mean really , if your coach is ok with it , and the front office went with what we have , to me that signals there is no need to panic. There are more ways to shore up a total team , than just go out and draft every o-lineman that comes down the pike. I listened to Tomlins interview , and i have to agree with what he said. It came from his mouth , and i believe and buy in to his concept. If someone better was available would we have taken them ? Yes i believe so . Are they the weak link everyone seems to think , i refuse to buy into that concept . They need only time to work together , and that is all they lack for the most part. Sorry about rambling on , "PEACE OUT " !

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 04:43 PM
Tomlin must have seen Burnett play while he was in Tampa...from what he said in the interview, and what I've seen from the articles and highlights, this kid could be something special.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 04:51 PM
I think we might want to pick up a saftey with one of these last few picks. At least for some depth. Although I think Deshea might be able to extend his career into his fourties by switching to saftety at some point.:laughing:

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 04:55 PM
Who do we take at 205? Cadogan? Shipley? Bell?

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:01 PM
Who do we take at 205? Cadogan? Shipley? Bell?


Shipley would be nice. We would have a nice stock of interior linemen to chose from over the next few years.

ricksteelers55
04-26-2009, 05:02 PM
Wow what happen if RB Rashad Jennings is still there at 226(our TB pick) do we take him? I think he is a sure RB...unless there is something about the guy,I thought he was projected 3rd-4th round

I think that for the 6th round pick we might want to take a look at either Shipley,Cadogan,Boone or Favorite

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 05:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we take another receiver.


I would rather package the remaining picks for a pick next year, the non-comp picks that is.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 05:07 PM
Anyone have a guess as to the comp picks next year?

tony hipchest
04-26-2009, 05:07 PM
You all got a potential steal with Joe Burnett. He doesn't have top-end speed (he's been clocked in the 4.49 range, not sure what happened at the combine), but really excels at reading the QB and jumpin' routes, and has hops. Also, his return abilities are instict-based, creates something out of nothing and has a knack for making the first man -- or more -- miss. Here's a few Youtube links, the last one just shows he's fearless (or crazy).

Picked off Texas/Colt McCoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czuj37UKXbY

A few TD returns (Also had one vs Miami)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10F5Ma4qRHw

No Fair Catch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXkn3JoDpWs&feature=related

thanks for the clips :thumbsup:

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 05:08 PM
Anyone have a guess as to the comp picks next year?

Probably a pair of 7th rounders. :coffee:

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:10 PM
Anyone have a guess as to the comp picks next year?


We miggt have to hold that thought. I 'm not sure there will be any comp picks if there is no CBA.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 05:11 PM
I would think that McFadden might bring more than a 7th

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 05:12 PM
Lots of value there still at O line and NT. Plus, I like the idea of us maybe getting an ILB Like Beckwith, Ellerbee or Frantz Joseph from Florida Atlantic.......although Joseph could be a UDFA pickup or 7th.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:13 PM
The Colts just took a QB. They must be putting Manning on the trading block. Pass it along.:wink02:

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 05:14 PM
We miggt have to hold that thought. I 'm not sure there will be any comp picks if there is no CBA.

That is a good point. Isn't it 2012 were there is the possibility of no draft.

Steelman16
04-26-2009, 05:14 PM
Lots of value there still at O line and NT. Plus, I like the idea of us maybe getting an ILB Like Beckwith, Ellerbee or Frantz Joseph from Florida Atlantic.......although Joseph could be a UDFA pickup or 7th.

We need to draft another O-lineman or we might be accused of "ignoring" that position. :rolleyes:

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:15 PM
That is a good point. Isn't it 2012 were there is the possibility of no draft.


I think there will be a lockout before then, but I did read something about a change in comp picks at some time if there is no CBA. It could have had to do with RFAs.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:16 PM
Come on Raiders. How long does it take to screw the pooch?

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 05:19 PM
got to take Cadogan if he lasts.

Ricky Jean francois would be a nice choice too

A couple of Safeties in Cook and Spillman might fit some needs.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:19 PM
Were up.

tony hipchest
04-26-2009, 05:22 PM
holy shit.... both UNM CB's were drafted. fo those who dont know the lobos have produced brian urlacher, terrence mathis, and pretty much nothing else unless you count the raven's stoney case.

i had glover quin as a potential FA pickup as a FS convert project. he went to the texans in the 4th.

d. wright went to the giants in the 6th. they must have some NM scouts cause they also took c. hamilton in the mid '90's who went to enmsu.

BigBen2WardPITT
04-26-2009, 05:22 PM
good luck next season Big Ben.

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:23 PM
Ra'shon Harris.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 05:24 PM
RaShown Harris, who is that?

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 05:24 PM
Ra'Shon Harris DT

Nice pick. Can actually make the roster as a DE perhaps next year

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:25 PM
good luck next season Big Ben.

Just as much luck as last year.

SteelerCRO
04-26-2009, 05:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKc6M8Nl5OE

Ra'shon "Sonny" Harris

tony hipchest
04-26-2009, 05:27 PM
good luck next season Big Ben.getting sacked is like a 5 hour energy drink for ben. i say our new offense only utilize 4 linemen.

billybob
04-26-2009, 05:28 PM
Who is Sonny Harris , is he an o-lineman? AAAHHHAAAAHAAAA!

St33lersguy
04-26-2009, 05:28 PM
I am glad the Steelers got another 3-4 DL. With the age of all our DL in 08 they needed to come up with atleast 2 in my mind and now they've done that.

austinfrench76
04-26-2009, 05:28 PM
Boone or Shipley at 226!

OneForTheToe
04-26-2009, 05:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKc6M8Nl5OE

Ra'shon "Sonny" Harris

Thanks for the link. We certainly got younger at d'line. It is difficult to fing 3-4 d'linemen, so if you find them, you better get them.

SteelerCRO
04-26-2009, 05:31 PM
Harris only produced three tackles in his first two seasons in Eugene, but the light started to come on during his junior season. He then stepped up his game as a first-year starter in 2008, making 47 tackles, nine tackles for loss and sacking the opponents' quarterback three times. His ability to take up blockers made everyone on the line more effective. His potential as a interior presence could get him drafted.


Positives: Tall with good build and length inside. Fair straight-ahead speed when closing on the ball. Stands up his man and falls off to wrap up backs coming through the hole. Anchors well to hold up double-team blocks. Gets great push to collapse the pocket in passing situations, keeps his arms extended and legs churning. Threat to impact passing lanes and block field goals using his push, height and length. Big in the weight room.

Negatives: One-year starter. A bit soft in the middle. Offensive linemen use his height to their advantage, cutting him down like a tree although he is adequate recovering. Slow off the snap and takes time to get his body going forward. Plays with his head down at times, minimizing his awareness. Needs a stronger punch. Inconsistent in his push and hustle. Does not change direction quickly, will get ridden out of plays too easily. Inconsistent shedding blocks inside even if much bigger than his opponent. Stamina and work ethic are issues. Missed first half of the 2006 season with a torn triceps muscle.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 05:32 PM
Oh well, maybe we end up getting Harris to the practice squad and he gets on the active roster in 2010. Not a bad move, but I cant see the Steelers using Hood and Harris to replace Eason and Kirschke.

I dont think they are gonna keep 7 linemen like they did this season. Might end up keeping an extra DB since we drafted 2, signed 2 (Fernando Bryant and Keiwan Ratliff) and only lost McFadden.

I guess the Steelers don't value Shipley like many thought.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 05:36 PM
Boone or Shipley at 226!

I hope it is more like Joel Bell, Jason Watkins or Marlon Favorite.

Funny how everybody's favorite O line phenom at the combine .....Lydon Murtha......is still around in the 7th. When will people learn that a 40 time on an O lineman is like a WR's bench press stats?????

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 05:37 PM
Bengals take another Felon, Bernard Scott

St33lersguy
04-26-2009, 05:39 PM
Anyone realize that someone named A.Q. Shipley is still available

SteelerCRO
04-26-2009, 05:41 PM
Bengals take another Felon, Bernard Scott

nothing new for them :laughing:

St33lersguy
04-26-2009, 05:41 PM
Bengals take another Felon, Bernard Scott

:toofunny:

He Andre Smith, & Rey Malalagia should fit quite nicely with Cedric Benson, Tank Johnson, Chris Henry & a bunch of other guys.

SteelerCRO
04-26-2009, 05:44 PM
:toofunny:

He Andre Smith, & Rey Malalagia should fit quite nicely with Cedric Benson, Tank Johnson, Chris Henry & a bunch of other guys.



maybe they want to win Prison SuperBowl!? :wink02:

stillers4me
04-26-2009, 05:47 PM
Bernard Scott hit a coach. Sounds like a good playpal for Ochojerko. :chuckle:

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 05:48 PM
maybe they want to win Prison SuperBowl!? :wink02:

maybe they should change their name to Mean Machine

billybob
04-26-2009, 05:50 PM
Bernard Scott hit a coach. Sounds like a good playpal for Ochojerko. :chuckle:

Least Chad Johnson is funny. He actually cracks me up with some of his antics. He never bothered Ike Taylor though .

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 05:52 PM
Anyone realize that someone named A.Q. Shipley is still available

Yeah, I think its funny that some thought the Steelers would take him at the end of the 2nd. :chuckle: but I never thought he would get out of the 5th round. Still not a fan, but for a 7th round or UDFA.........why not??

Even Jonathon Luigs went in the 6th, so I guess those short arms do worry some teams........or all of them.

billybob
04-26-2009, 06:02 PM
I Like Shipley, so put guys with long arms next to him. I thought i read somewhere he could be shifted to multiple positions. I think he could fit. Maybe there is a procedure to stretch his arm length , (LOL) !!!!!!!!

tony hipchest
04-26-2009, 06:06 PM
this is killing me! i still cant wait to see who we traded s. mahan for!

*rubbing hands together and singing "goodie goodie, gumdrops"*

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 06:11 PM
I Like Shipley, so put guys with long arms next to him. I thought i read somewhere he could be shifted to multiple positions. I think he could fit. Maybe there is a procedure to stretch his arm length , (LOL) !!!!!!!!

If you could carry him on the PS for 2 years I think he might make a decent NT.

billybob
04-26-2009, 06:11 PM
If Joe Paterno thinks you have potential to play a certain position , well , i would at least look into the possibility . Joe has seen more talent in his days than most anyone on the planet. I told my Penn State friend , i could see Joe on the sideline in a wheelchair , before he retired. He is a legend . I would go to him if i wanted a reference , for any player. Only then would i make up my own mind.

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 06:13 PM
got to take Cadogan if he lasts.

Ricky Jean francois would be a nice choice too

A couple of Safeties in Cook and Spillman might fit some needs.

one more try at these guys....

The Duke
04-26-2009, 06:14 PM
Wait, Duke Robinson is still not drafted?

wtf, Dukes rock!!

billybob
04-26-2009, 06:15 PM
Well this is it , we are next . Shipley becomes a member of the Black and Gold .

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 06:16 PM
Wait, Duke Robinson is still not drafted?

wtf, Dukes rock!!

Round 5 Carolina

billybob
04-26-2009, 06:17 PM
Well this is it , we are next . Shipley becomes a member of the Black and Gold .

Ahaaaa I knew it!!!!!!!!!!!1

kmsteelerwr15
04-26-2009, 06:17 PM
A.Q. Shipley!!!!! i love this

The Duke
04-26-2009, 06:17 PM
HELLYEAH shirpley!!

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 06:18 PM
I Like Shipley, so put guys with long arms next to him. I thought i read somewhere he could be shifted to multiple positions. I think he could fit. Maybe there is a procedure to stretch his arm length , (LOL) !!!!!!!!

Yeah, ever see the movie Gattica?? :chuckle:

Honestly, I dont see where Shipley is anything but a center and he is very stout and athletic for a solid guy. I think he would fit in an NFC team where he needs to get to the MLB a lot...or a zone blocking team where he can use that athleticism.

Who are we gonna get from the Mahan trade?? The pick is up next?? I have no clue, but would like to see Joel Bell or Jason Watkins.

jjpro11
04-26-2009, 06:18 PM
AQ!!

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 06:18 PM
We did it. Shipley.

jjpro11
04-26-2009, 06:18 PM
Mayock is loving it

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 06:19 PM
Cheers to the Shipley boosters!

:drink:

ricksteelers55
04-26-2009, 06:19 PM
What's wrong with RB Rashad Jennings? should we take him if available at 241

ajs8207
04-26-2009, 06:22 PM
What's wrong with RB Rashad Jennings? should we take him if available at 241

No we go 5 deep at rb/fb already with the addition of our 5th round pick. LB or either line would be my guess.

billybob
04-26-2009, 06:22 PM
Now i'm happy with our draft . We did pretty well i believe. We have to hand it to our front office. They rock , and have the track record to profe it !!!!!!!!!1:tt02: :tt02: :tt02: :tt02: :tt02: :tt02: :tt02:

St33lersguy
04-26-2009, 06:22 PM
We trade Sean Gahan for A.Q. Shipley. As of right now I like it.

The Duke
04-26-2009, 06:23 PM
Round 5 Carolina

yeah my bad, wrong draft board :doh:

but I love our draft :tt:

SteelerCRO
04-26-2009, 06:28 PM
i love our draft also! I'm looking forward seeing those guys progress! I'm sure they will entertain Steeler Nation for a long time! :tt:

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 06:28 PM
I cannot believe that the following players are still available

Trevor Canfield OG
Gerald Cadogan OT
Ricky Jean Francois DT
Frantz Joseph ILB
Derek Pegues FS

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 06:44 PM
The steelers always seem to take a linebacker in every draft whether they need one or not, I am guessing joseph frantz, but I base that on absolutely nothing.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 06:45 PM
I cannot believe that the following players are still available

Trevor Canfield OG
Gerald Cadogan OT
Ricky Jean Francois DT
Frantz Joseph ILB
Derek Pegues FS

I think Joseph is gonna be a UDFA I read his trainier say "I dont think he will get drafted"

How about Beckwith....is he picked. That kid just makes tackles on any LSU game I ever watched.

BehindSteelCurtain
04-26-2009, 06:45 PM
Are all of Shipley's boyfriend's happy now?

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 06:47 PM
I think Joseph is gonna be a UDFA I read his trainier say "I dont think he will get drafted"

How about Beckwith....is he picked. That kid just makes tackles on any LSU game I ever watched.

Beckwith, Ellerbe and Williams are still sitting there with Joseph.

I thought a FS might have been picked up today.

billybob
04-26-2009, 06:48 PM
Are all of Shipley's boyfriend's happy now?

Thats just wrong dude.

Vincent
04-26-2009, 06:49 PM
This has been a good draft. I'm looking forward to seeing the 10-15 UDFAs they sign.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 06:53 PM
THe steelers are up and again we are in commercial!

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 06:55 PM
David JOhnson TE I forgot they also have to draft a TE?

steelersfanman92
04-26-2009, 06:55 PM
I dont understand this pick why another TE? Heath and Spaeth are good enough

austinfrench76
04-26-2009, 06:56 PM
A Tight End? This guy couldnt have been a UDFA?

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 06:56 PM
TE????? David Johnston Arkansas State

jjpro11
04-26-2009, 06:56 PM
lol.. our token late round tight end.

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 06:58 PM
6'2 260lbs 4.73

Interesting combo for a steeler TE.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2009, 06:59 PM
I haven't found anything on him yet. I assume that he is blocker

billybob
04-26-2009, 06:59 PM
Don't know him , maybe he can block . Maybe he can be converted to a lineman,who knows?

The Duke
04-26-2009, 07:00 PM
Heath's replacement ? :scratchchin:

yinzer-inseattle
04-26-2009, 07:00 PM
he worked out at FB at the combine. he may be a project at that position and to compete with summers and c davis

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 07:01 PM
Potential Undrafted free agents who have visited steel city throughout the draft process

CJ Davis OG Pitt
Brandon Long LB
Spence Adkins LB
Jason CHerry WR
TOny Carter CB

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 07:02 PM
Overview
Johnson's statistics did not put him on any All-American teams, but his 22 receptions in 2008 went for 356 yards (an excellent 16.2-yard average) and five touchdowns and he did make second-team All-Sun Belt. The combination of his blocking and receiving skills is what puts him among this year's best senior H-back prospects. Texas A&M found out his value as a blocker in the Red Wolves' shocking September upset in College Station.

Analysis
Positives: Fullback/tight end combination with matching build: well-built lower body with fullback height and long arms usually seen on receivers. Lines up with his hand down and as an H-back. Excellent in-line and open-field blocker. Uses leg strength to get out of his stance quickly and get into his route or block, anchors well and pushes aside defensive ends with 30-50-pound weight advantages. Finds targets in space and negates them using his length and strength. Good hands; can snatch balls from the air and adjust to poor throws. Has the speed to get deep down the seam. Used as outside protector on placements.

Negatives: Will be most effective in an H-back or true fullback position because of his lack of height. Inexperienced playing fullback in the I-formation. Generally played against a lower level of competition, although Arkansas State does play stronger non-conference games. Must work on hand technique and get up to speed against stronger, quicker defensive ends and linebackers when blocking.

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 07:02 PM
RIcky Jean just went to the 49ers. How does a guy who had star written all over a couple of years ago wind up here. Could be a steal if he gets it together

yinzer-inseattle
04-26-2009, 07:03 PM
Some inof to back up my post
Overall Football Traits

Production 3 2005: Johnson appears in all 12 games during his true freshman season and doesn't catch a pass. 2006: Johnson starts in all 12 games catching 13 passes for a total of 200 yards and one touchdown. 2007: Johnson starts eight of the 12 games he appears in catching 10 passes for a total of 204 yards and three touchdowns. 2008: Johnson starts nine of the 12 games he appears in catching 22 passes for a total of 356 yards and five touchdowns.

Height-Weight-Speed 3 Adequate bulk and good top-end speed for size but marginal-at-best height for a tight end.

Durability 1 Four-year starter that didn't miss any games with injuries so durability isn't a concern to our knowledge.

Character 2 Willing to work out at fullback at the combine and appears to be a team first player though character needs to be further investigated.

Tight End specific Traits
Ball Skills 2 Very big hands for size and appears comfortable catching waist-high pass. Can snatch the ball out of the air without breaking stride. Doesn't have great height or leaping ability and can't always highpoint the ball as a result.

Separation Skills 4 Not explosive coming out of breaks or fluid changing directions and going to have problems separating from man coverage at the NFL level.

Blocking 3 Takes adequate angles to downfield blocks, can get into position at the second level and big enough to engulf undersized linebackers. Lower center of gravity and can get under defenders' pads but doesn't get great push. Gets adequate hand placement but punch isn't violent enough.

Toughness 3 Strong for size and isn't going to get muscled out of any routes. Stays with blocks.

Big-Play Potential 3 Can get a clean release and fast enough to stretch the field when doesn't get slowed down at the line of scrimmage. Isn't going to make many defenders miss when gets into space and lacks breakaway speed so isn't a homerun threat after the catch.

billybob
04-26-2009, 07:05 PM
Wow , i did not even realize that through this draft , i actually became a starter for the "Steelers Fever " team . (LOL) . Probably end up getting cut .

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 07:07 PM
Wow , i did not even realize that through this draft , i actually became a starter for the "Steelers Fever " team . (LOL) . Probably end up getting cut .

Dont worry about getting cut just yet. We are looking for Practice Squad type players at the moment.

WIth a good showing you might work your way back onto the playing roster:thumbsup:

The Duke
04-26-2009, 07:08 PM
Wow , i did not even realize that through this draft , i actually became a starter for the "Steelers Fever " team . (LOL) . Probably end up getting cut .

what's with the hines avatar? Mach 5 bro!! :chuckle:

billybob
04-26-2009, 07:11 PM
what's with the hines avatar? Mach 5 bro!! :chuckle:

I did that in honor of Hines signing. He is a class act and i put the "Mach 5 " in the garage . It needed a tune-up any way . I will get it back out soon.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-26-2009, 07:27 PM
I dont understand this pick why another TE? Heath and Spaeth are good enough

Spaeth is actually a terrible blocker. Several key plays this year he missed his block on short yardage. This kid might battle McHugh for the final TE spot, or be practice squad depth for when McHugh or Spaeth's contracts are up.

ricksteelers55
04-26-2009, 07:34 PM
Spaeth is actually a terrible blocker. Several key plays this year he missed his block on short yardage. This kid might battle McHugh for the final TE spot, or be practice squad depth for when McHugh or Spaeth's contracts are up.

Yeah...i never been a big fan of Matt,altough he isnt a bad player,I really thought we should have drafted RB Michael Bush back at the time instead of Spaeth.At 6-7 you should be able to be a decent blocker at least....

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 07:35 PM
As I post the Cards draft another player that some of us have regularly spoken of --- Trevor Canfield OG.

I think my mock draf/ts over the past weeks have been closer to what the CARDS picked rather than the steelers.

I hope that does not mean that I am a closet WHisenhunt / Grimm fan. I hope I dont think like a cardinal draft nut.

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 07:43 PM
Yeah...i never been a big fan of Matt,altough he isnt a bad player,I really thought we should have drafted RB Michael Bush back at the time instead of Spaeth.At 6-7 you should be able to be a decent blocker at least....

I'm halfway surprised they didn't try to deal Spaeth and get another pick for him. Might be tough this year with so many TE in the draft though I guess. Hopefully for his sake he worked on blocking in the offseason.

Aussie_steeler
04-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Ryan Succop punter - Mr Irrelevant

Now lets start on the UDFA's

Not drafted
Gerald Cadogan OT plus Augustus Parrish, Jason Watkins, Alex Boone
Andy Kemp, Ray Feinga, Travis Bright OG
Darryl Beckwith, Dannell Ellerbe Worrell WIlliams ILB
CJ Spillman Emmanuel Cook Derek Pegues Lendy Holmes S
Cantwell / Hunter / Parker Wilson QB
Brannan Sutherland FB
Antonio Dixon, Bolden, Marlon Favorite, Marlon Lucky DT
Pannel Egboh, Chris Baker, Everette Pedescleaux ,Zac Potter DE

Interesting list still out there

St33lersguy
04-26-2009, 08:34 PM
I dont understand this pick why another TE? Heath and Spaeth are good enough

This probably was just to pick anyone. They addressed all their needs so at this point they could just pick anyone. Although he'll battle Spaeth & McHugh andif he plays better than Spaeth and/or McHugh he'll get playing time.

Steely McSmash
04-26-2009, 08:54 PM
Ryan Succop punter - Mr Irrelevant

Now lets start on the UDFA's

Not drafted
Gerald Cadogan OT plus Augustus Parrish, Jason Watkins, Alex Boone
Andy Kemp, Ray Feinga, Travis Bright OG
Darryl Beckwith, Dannell Ellerbe Worrell WIlliams ILB
CJ Spillman Emmanuel Cook Derek Pegues Lendy Holmes S
Cantwell / Hunter / Parker Wilson QB
Brannan Sutherland FB
Antonio Dixon, Bolden, Marlon Favorite, Marlon Lucky DT
Pannel Egboh, Chris Baker, Everette Pedescleaux ,Zac Potter DE

Interesting list still out there

Character issues might take Baker out of consideration. He was kicked off the PSU team for some fights.

SteelMember
10-29-2009, 10:38 AM
Just bumping this for a cool pic of our 2009 draft class.

http://www.whirlmagazine.com/current_month/2009/9_september_09/img/feature_rookies/rookies.png

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-29-2009, 02:57 PM
Just bumping this for a cool pic of our 2009 draft class.

http://www.whirlmagazine.com/current_month/2009/9_september_09/img/feature_rookies/rookies.png

That is cool. Just missing Sunny Harris now I guess. Ramon Foster is the only UDFA in the pic too.