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revefsreleets
05-20-2009, 08:06 AM
Obama has a choice to make here, and a big one. Hope he see's this one correctly.

http://www.ohio.com/editorial/commentary/45375807.html

WASHINGTON: It has been the nightmare scenario ever since the modern system of congressional oversight of intelligence was created in the late 1970s: When a scandal erupts, a member of Congress will put his (or her) political interests above those of the intelligence agency whose secrets he (or she) has sworn to protect.
That's what's so troubling about the campaign for self-vindication that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been waging. To escape from the charge that she was briefed about and implicitly condoned interrogation methods that she now calls torture, Pelosi is accusing the Central Intelligence Agency of lying. And not just the Bush-era CIA, mind you, but the Obama CIA as well.
If you read the CIA's careful 10-page summary of the 40 briefings it has given to Congress since 2002 on ''enhanced interrogation techniques,'' it's pretty hard not to conclude that Pelosi is shading the truth to retrospectively cover her backside. ''Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah . . . and a description of the particular EITs that had been used,'' reads the entry for the Sept. 4, 2002, briefing for Pelosi and her House Republican counterpart, Porter Goss. Those techniques included waterboarding, whose use Pelosi has repeatedly claimed she wasn't briefed on.
Congressional Democrats are acting as if there is something sinister in the CIA releasing the records of its briefings (see, for example, Politico's May 12 post ''Democrats: CIA is out to get us''). But the deal with congressional oversight is that if members of Congress are briefed on a subject and don't object, they shouldn't trash the agency later in public when there's a flap. That undermines not just CIA morale but the integrity of the oversight process itself.
Pelosi's apparent rewriting of the record would be shocking, if it weren't so typical of congressional behavior on this subject.
Playing politics with the CIA is a way of life on Capitol Hill love 'em when they're up, trash 'em when they're down. Republicans and Democrats both play this game, from administration to administration. Rarely, though, has it been as naked as in Pelosi's case. Having climbed up a very tall tree, she is now watching and yelping as the CIA saws off the limb.
CIA Director Leon Panetta delivered a sharp riposte to Pelosi on Friday, serving notice that he is removing the ''kick me'' sign from the CIA uniform. He said in a message to employees: ''There is a long tradition in Washington of making political hay out of our business. It predates my service with this great institution, and it will be around long after I'm gone. But the political debates about interrogation reached a new decibel level yesterday when the CIA was accused of misleading Congress.''
CIA veterans remember how William Casey protected his flank when he was CIA director in the 1980s. To get congressional support for his plan to undermine the Nicaraguan economy by having the contras plant mines in Nicaraguan harbors, Casey invited leading members of Congress to the super-secret Site 39 in North Carolina where the operation was being planned. There was even a photo of then-Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan sitting atop one of the big mines that was to be used, ''looking like the actor Slim Pickens riding a nuclear warhead in Dr. Strangelove,'' remembers a former agency officer.
When the mining operation became public and Moynihan and others began expressing indignation and threatened to call CIA officers to testify Casey paid a visit to Capitol Hill to meet with the congressional leadership. The demand for CIA testimony disappeared, and agency officers involved in the program suspected that Casey had brought along some of the Site 39 photos in his briefcase.
What will President Obama do in this latest of the never-ending skein of CIA flaps? If Pelosi forces a political showdown, I have a feeling that Obama will side with his CIA director, Leon Panetta, and not with the House speaker.

By reversing his position last week on the release of Defense Department photos documenting the abuse of detainees, Obama put his responsibilities as commander in chief first and his loyalty to fellow Democrats second. That's the way it's supposed to work, and, if Obama follows through, it will be one of the defining moments of his presidency.
Ignatius is a Washington Post columnist. He can be e-mailed at davidignatius@washpost.com (davidignatius@washpost.com).

MACH1
05-20-2009, 10:16 AM
She needs to be relieved of her duties as Speaker. Like most politicians she couldn't give a rats ass about the 'commoners', its all about her agenda.

SCSTILLER
05-20-2009, 10:20 AM
Caught a little bit of James Carville on CNN saying how this whole thing is with Pelosi is being blown out of proportion. He basically said it was a bad interview and she slipped a few times. Big damn slip if you ask me. Now, I beleive Carville would be all over the Speaker if she/he had an (R) next to their name.

trauben
05-20-2009, 10:29 AM
What bothers me is how close this twit is to the big seat!

I love how she's trying to say it's the Republicans and their spin, when in reality this all started by them, the Dems, trying to get the Bush Administration under the gun.

She's a fraud as a Catholic, too.

revefsreleets
05-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Other than being caught lying and flip-flopping on the CIA briefing...Pelosi is a real piece of work. Her hypocrisy is astounding, even by a politicians standard. Just a few of her “accomplishments”:

-Earmarks. She campaigned against them, and made a huge point of blaming the GOP for them. Earmarks are UP 17% in a Dem controlled House/Senate.
-She pushed through the Water Resources Development Act (earmark) which directly boosts the value of her husbands real estate.
-Coined the term “Culture of Corruption”, but only when refrerring to GOP corruption. She turns a blind eye to her own parties, and more damningly, her own.
-She at the forefront “End the War” movement. Yet she’s only tried gimmicks to actually accomplish this. She’s also flip-flopped all over the place on the War. For it, then against it, then for it…now she’s back to being against it…I think.
-She’s against the Boy Scouts, trying to get them blocked from using public schools.
-Meeting with Assad in Syria. Even her own party said she was acting like a nut when she lied to the leader of Syria about Israeli promises that were never made.
-Hate Crime. She passionate about this POS legislation.

HometownGal
05-20-2009, 10:58 AM
Caught a little bit of James Carwell on CNN saying how this whole thing is with Pelosi is being blown out of proportion. He basically said it was a bad interview and she slipped a few times. Big damn slip if you ask me. Now, I beleive Carwell would be all over the Speaker if she/he had an (R) next to their name.

James Carville has his schlom permanently implanted in the Demo Party's ass.

Vincent
05-20-2009, 11:37 AM
James Carville has his schlom permanently implanted in the Demo Party's ass.

Now, there's a 'visual'. :chuckle:

AllD
05-20-2009, 02:04 PM
All we need is a photo of her on a broomstick with flying monkeys.

trauben
05-20-2009, 02:19 PM
All we need is a photo of her on a broomstick with flying monkeys.

http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2007/04/15/wicked-witch-of-the-west-nancy-pelosi-and-her-flying-monkeys/

HometownGal
05-20-2009, 04:38 PM
All we need is a photo of her on a broomstick with flying monkeys.

The minkeys don't want any part of her either.

http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/pelosi-witch%20~2.JPG

steelreserve
05-20-2009, 04:47 PM
I think Nancy Pelosi needs to not only lose the speaker position, but get run out of congress entirely. Not because of this, but because the woman is full-on batshit crazy and has been ever since she was just a regular Democratic political hack from California.

It'll never happen, though, because in San Francisco, having a D next to your name equals guaranteed victory by an 80-20 margin. The only other party that ever has a chance is the Green Party. Sometimes the Republicans don't even bother to nominate anyone to run against her.

NJarhead
05-20-2009, 04:52 PM
She needs to be relieved of her duties as Speaker. Like most politicians she couldn't give a rats ass about the 'commoners', its all about her agenda.

Ding, Ding, Ding. Nailed it!

AllD
05-20-2009, 05:40 PM
The minkeys don't want any part of her either.

http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/pelosi-witch%20~2.JPG



Nice shade of green, but a little heavy on the makeup.:toofunny:

HometownGal
05-20-2009, 05:48 PM
Nice shade of green, but a little heavy on the makeup.:toofunny:

LOL! She's got the trademark Demo phony smile going, though. :chuckle:

revefsreleets
05-21-2009, 07:59 AM
ou know, it wouldn't be so bad if she didn't yap so loudly and for so long about all the corruption on the GOP (Okay, yeah, it might still have been pretty bad), but her party is even more rife with corruption! It's like the charred ebony iron pot calling the slightly blackened stainless steel pot black.