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tony hipchest
06-06-2009, 11:33 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8108c8ba&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

The NFL is a better place with Tom Brady back in uniform, and all indications are that the New England Patriots' quarterback will be 100 percent when the 2009 season starts. It's also good news that Brady intends to play 10 more years -- which means he would be 41 when his career ends.

Brady's work ethic is legendary in New England. He's the first guy in the Patriots' facility and often the last to leave, so it's no wonder that he will be ready to go this fall. The question is whether his return to health will be enough for the Patriots to return to the glory days of that undefeated 2007 regular season.

The Patriots still must resolve a serious issue for Brady to lead them back to the promised land.

The vivid memories of the New York Giants' Super Bowl XLII assault on Brady, when they sacked him five times and hit him another nine times, are like a nightmare to New England. Before that game, former Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo (now a first-year head coach with the St. Louis Rams) realized there was no way to stop the Patriots' offensive machine unless his team got to Brady. In order to achieve that pressure, Spagnuolo greased up his "fire-zone" blitz scheme and sent rushers from every direction.

The Giants weren't the first team to go after Brady that season, and when you look at the last five games he played in 2007, it becomes clear that the Patriots need to solidify their pass protection. If they don't, Brady might not make it through the 2009 season, let alone play until he is 41.

In the last five games of 2007, Brady was sacked 12 times and hit another 29 times. He had 195 pass plays called in those five games, meaning he was sacked once every 16 pass attempts and hit once every seven. In the 2008 opener against the Kansas City Chiefs, he was hit twice in 11 pass attempts before suffering a season-ending knee injury.

From 2005 to 2007, Brady averaged 565 pass plays per season. But if the Patriots' pass protection doesn't improve from what it was in those last six games, Brady could be in for 35 sacks and 80 hits in 2009. That's not how you play 10 more seasons.

Season Sacked Sacked:Att.
2007 playoffs 8 1:15
2007 21 1:29
2006 26 1:21
2005 26 1:21
2004 26 1:19
2003 32 1:17
2002 31 1:20
2001 41 1:11
Keep in mind, when the Giants created the blueprint for slowing down the mighty Patriots offense with an aggressive blitz scheme, we never had a chance to see how teams playing New England in 2008 might employ the strategy. In the copy-cat NFL, you can bet teams would experiment with many of the things the Giants did that Super Bowl Sunday at University of Phoenix Stadium.

During the preseason, don't expect to see many clues about how teams will attack Brady. However, the first four regular-season games (against the Buffalo Bills, New York Jets, Atlanta Falcons and Baltimore Ravens) should provide the answers to how defenses will apply what they learned from the Giants. Coaches Dick Jauron, Rex Ryan, Mike Smith and John Harbaugh will study that Super Bowl game tape, as well as the other four games preceding it, plus what the Chiefs were trying to do in the 2008 opener.

Randy Moss recently said that he and fellow Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker learned the offense in Brady's absence last year and that he expects the team to be even better than it was during that record-setting 2007 season. That's a scary thought -- and probably true -- but it also shows opponents that they must go after Brady or they likely will lose.

It's hard to judge how teams played the Patriots last season when Matt Cassel took over as quarterback and if those defensive schemes would work against Brady. Cassel can really run (he took off 73 times for 270 yards in 2008), but he also was sacked 47 times, or once in every 12 pass attempts.

Yes, Brady is back, and he's a force with which to be reckoned. However, the same offensive line that started for New England in Super Bowl XLII is penciled in to start in 2009. Matt Light, Logan Mankins, Dan Koppen, Stephen Neal and Nick Kaczur are all very good players who are well-instructed by 28-year coaching veteran Dante Scarnecchia, but they will be challenged early and often. There's no choice for the teams playing the Patriots -- they must pressure Brady.

When the Patriots practice in shorts, it will be hard for them to really work on all the things they will face during the season. But you can bet that coach Bill Belichick and the entire franchise is attacking the problem that awaits them in 2009.

belichick is no dummy and is definitely trying to stay ahead of the curve on this.

its pretty evident with the patriots offseason moves, that they are gearing up for a much heavier running game. if fred taylor stays healthy, he will pick up right where c. dillon left off.

RodWoodsonwasprettycool
06-07-2009, 01:06 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8108c8ba&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

belichick is no dummy and is definitely trying to stay ahead of the curve on this.

its pretty evident with the patriots offseason moves, that they are gearing up for a much heavier running game. if fred taylor stays healthy, he will pick up right where c. dillon left off.

I think Belichick is a lot smarter than you guys give him credit for. And being forced to watch my own franchise try to imitate what's he's done in Foxboro, and sort of studying him, I've been sort of impressed on how he built up the Pats with some average mid-round linebackers and turned them into a great team defensively. Not meant as a knock towards Vrabel, Bruschi and others and the former Willie McGinest, but when they all played they were nowhere near as athletic as say, a Ray Lewis or a James Harrison.

Granted, the very second after I make this post, someone will post the obligatory "HE CHEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111" post, but really take the Black and Gold glasses off, like I take my Orange and Brown for looking at the Steeler Org., you'd see that he's a pretty good coach.

Now with that being said, I'm not sure if Taylor is the answer longterm or even short term right now. He's really getting up there in Age, now granted, he won't be the only pounding the rock, but the guy has been in the league since 1998, I mean as an example, look at Jamal Lewis with the Browns right now, he's 2-3 year younger than Fred and is probably nearing his final year as an NFL player. Same with Shaun Alexander, who's not even on a team right now. Not everyone can be "The Bus". ;) If the Pats are looking to run a Run-oriented offense, they'll probably have to look for someone with a bit more youth next year in the draft, or The Hoodie will have to find his own Willie Parker in training camp.

RoethlisBURGHer
06-07-2009, 09:48 AM
While I agree that he is a smart coach (he was the mastermind behind the defenses Bill Parcells ran in New York when the Giants won their two Super Bowls in the 1980's.

But as a head coach he blew in Cleveland, but has become a Hall of Fame head coach in New England. Now I know not all of that is due to the Spygate scandal, but you can't deny that he did cheat and we don't know what kind of advantages he got from it. He says he got nothing, but if he did then why keep taking the chance of getting caught?

So yeah, he's a good coach but I want to see how he does from now on without those video tapes to help him throughout the season.

DACEB
06-07-2009, 09:52 AM
S'back, Wood, Keisel, Timmons and Ziggy ..... yea

devilsdancefloor
06-07-2009, 10:22 AM
So does this mean we will see a whinny randy moss? I know belacheat is a good coach, but his legacy outside of new england will be he cheated! (maybe i should add cleveland?) i agree bitchlikeachick is a good coach, but he went from a good coach to a great coach because (yes i am gonna say it ) HE CHEATED!!!! Puts back on black & gold shades now.:tt03::tt03::tt03::tt03::drink:

Dino 6 Rings
06-07-2009, 09:43 PM
to kill a snake, you CHOP ITS HEAD OFF!!!

that's what the Giants did, what the Cheifs did and what all the teams on their schedule will attempt to do this season.

SteelCityMan786
06-07-2009, 09:45 PM
to kill a snake, you CHOP ITS HEAD OFF!!!

that's what the Giants did, what the Cheifs did and what all the teams on their schedule will attempt to do this season.

It works everytime. :thumbsup: The only way to get Brady out is to make him basically human. Otherwise people will continue to think of him as they do now.

Blitzburgh_Fever
06-09-2009, 12:13 AM
It works everytime. :thumbsup: The only way to get Brady out is to make him basically human. Otherwise people will continue to think of him as they do now.

The biggest asset Brady has ever had has been the ice-water that flows in his veins. Without that, like you said he's human. Biggest question isn't if Brady lost power from his knee injury (hell, before '07 deep passes weren't an integral part of their offense), it's if he's lost his confidence. Losing confidence for a pocket passer is like blowing a knee out for a scrambler; once it's gone, he's done, and he pretty much becomes a Matt Cassel that can't run at that point.

I really wonder if he gets behind that line and starts thinking about his knee and how the Chiefs weren't able to get to him, then thinks about the Super Bowl, then gets nervous.

I hate Brady, but immediately after Spygate I (somewhat) jokingly wished he'd get hurt for the season and never be able to come back...if that actually happens I'm pretty sure I'm the worst human being ever.

LVSteelersfan
06-12-2009, 10:54 PM
Brady's Oline better be ready to play this year or he is TOAST. Toast I tell ya. Too bad we didn't get to play him last year and sack him repeatedly like we did to Cassell. And we would have because Brady is highly overrated when it comes to being able to escape a heavy pass rush. Teams just did it wrong and let him dink and dunk down the field and the long passes he made to Moss happened to uncalled holding calls on that Oline. They held on almost every nonrunning play two years ago. It was pathetic.

AllD
06-13-2009, 06:25 AM
The bottom line is Brady has a hot wife. How long do you think they will stay married after his career is over? It's another repeat of Jackie the Jokeman woo hooo hahahahaha.

Hapa
06-13-2009, 06:46 AM
Haha they're worried that Brady won't make it through his career. Ben's been sacked only 10 times less in 5 years than Brady has been in 10 years.

Spagnuolo greased up his "fire-zone" blitz scheme More like a modified version of Dick LeBeau's "fire-zone" blitz scheme.

revefsreleets
06-13-2009, 07:32 AM
It helps A LOT if your offensive line doesn't ever get called for holding.