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mesaSteeler
06-20-2009, 10:51 PM
Lions told don't expect Logan to return
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Lions+told+expect+Logan+return/1714442/story.html
NFL's Steelers like running back who's 'opening some eyes'

By Mike Beamish, Vancouver SunJune 19, 2009Comments (3)

ABBOTSFORD Considering he didn't score a rushing touchdown last season, erstwhile feature back Stefan Logan is causing a great deal of consternation for the B.C. Lions.

Expectations that the 5-6 running back's stay with the Pittsburgh Steelers might be short were dealt a blow after Lions player personnel director Roy Shivers contacted the NFL team this week. Shivers has a long-standing relationship with Kirby Wilson, the Steelers' running backs coach and a player he used to teach. Logan signed with Pittsburgh as a free agent in early February.

"Kirby told me to forget about him," Shivers said at Lions training camp Friday. "They like him and they've moved him to slotback. The idea is that they can get him the ball in space and everything. He's opening some eyes. The veterans have gravitated toward him because he's shown stuff in mini-camps. And they plan to use him as a kick-returner, too. Kirby told me, 'You're probably not going to get him back.' "

According to Shivers' interpretation, Logan will be moving on to the Steelers' main training camp in mid-July. And who knows where his NFL career goes after that?

And so, for now, and possibly the forseeable future, the Lions must hope that Ian Smart, Martell Mallet, Damian Sims or Emmanuel Marc can provide some of the electrifying moments that Logan used to.

"There's another one [Logan] out there and we've got to find him," Lions head coach Wally Buono said after the Steelers signed Logan.

That was four months ago and the jury is still out on whether that goal is being achieved.

Marc, a put-together 5-10, 205-pound back, played only two seasons of NCAA Division 1-AA football with the Delaware State Hornets. Stylistically, however, he could be the closest approximation to Logan that the Lions have on their roster.

Trouble is, Marc's early promise in training camp came precisely at that point early. He has been resting a sprained knee for 10 days and only got back on the practice field for a few limited reps on Friday. His desire to play in Tuesday's second pre-season game, against the Edmonton Eskimos at BC Place Stadium, borders on desperation.

"If it's up to me, I'll play," Marc said. "But I don't make the decisions. I'm assuming that I'll play because I need to play. Otherwise, I'll have nothing to show anybody. I'm ready to lace up and go."

Logan is unique, Shivers says, the type of transcendent backfield talent who comes along once "every five or 10 years" in the CFL.

Though Marc has never met the individual, he knows the yearning for another Logan is palpable. And he is aware of every one of Logan's baffling moves through video study. Marc, in fact, spent many hours checking out the credentials of the Lions' other running back candidates before they'd even arrived in camp. He is nothing if not thorough.

"I try not to say I compare myself with him [Logan] because it's the competitive nature in me," Marc says. "I try not to limit myself. If you need a power back, I'd like to be that guy. If you need a scatback, I'd like to be that guy. If you need a speed guy, I'm like to be him. I definitely believe I have the quickness and elusiveness that he has and a couple of other things. It wouldn't hurt to bring that to this offence."

Until Marc is given a chance or proves otherwise, Smart is the leading candidate to replace Logan. A CFL kick return all-star in 2007 and the league's most outstanding special teams player that year, Smart insists he can be a rusher and a returner in the manner of Dominque Dorsey, the former Argo and CFL combined yards leader who is trying out with the Washington Redskins. Like Logan in Pittsburgh, Dorsey is the smallest player in the Redskin locker room at 5-7.

"Ian, right now, is a kick-returner vying for the running back position," Buono says. "He's not vying to be a combination running back/kick-returner. In my mind, he'll do one or the other but not both."

mbeamish@vancouversun.com

steelreserve
06-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Interesting. Sounds like we might have picked up some good talent for cheap.

Wonder who's going to be left out if we do keep him around. Is Moore going to have less playing time? Or maybe to free up the roster spot, can we please, please, please cut Carey Davis now?

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-20-2009, 11:30 PM
Interesting. Sounds like we might have picked up some good talent for cheap.

Wonder who's going to be left out if we do keep him around. Is Moore going to have less playing time? Or maybe to free up the roster spot, can we please, please, please cut Carey Davis now?

He could be kept as a return specialist like Allen Rossum was before. The Steelers kept 7 D linemen last year and maybe this year they just keep 6.

The CFL games start in a couple weeks, so it could mean that Logan isnt gonna be coming back any time soon........but he still has a long way to go before he is on the 53 man roster.

The Definiti0n
06-20-2009, 11:57 PM
Stefan Logan is going to be our Darren Sproles. But he has to change that number if he wants to be a star in this league. Number 41 :nono:

slashsteel
06-21-2009, 05:16 AM
I wonder if Kirby really said that. The pads aren't even on so a little hard for me to believe just how much he is liked just yet.....

Texasteel
06-21-2009, 06:00 AM
I wonder if Kirby really said that. The pads aren't even on so a little hard for me to believe just how much he is liked just yet.....

Your right slash, it is still very early, and just because they may like the looks of him now doesn't mean he'll make the team. I just hope that from all the kids we have brought in that we can find a real return threat.

Galax Steeler
06-21-2009, 07:22 AM
I like what I have been hearing about Logan but like someone else stated it is going to be a crowded backfield. I do agree about Davis being cut.

GBMelBlount
06-21-2009, 07:54 AM
Considering he didn't score a rushing touchdown last season

If he is that talented, I wonder why he didn't score a single touchdown last year?

Not that it's a big deal, but does anyone know his 40 time?

slashsteel
06-21-2009, 09:18 AM
I remember reading somewhere that he runs a 4.4 40.

mmalone
06-21-2009, 09:58 AM
first, did i need a translator for this article, or am i just hungover??

second, here is the roster. some of these fine players will have to go..... which ones???

Powdrell is gone already...


44 Summers, Frank RB 5-10 230 9/6/85 R UNLV
33 Redman, Isaac RB 6-0 230 11/10/84 R Bowie State
34 Mendenhall, Rashard RB 5-10 225 6/19/87 2 Illinois
28 Vincent, Justin RB 5-10 219 1/25/83 1 Louisiana State
21 Moore, Mewelde RB 5-11 209 7/24/82 6 Tulane
41 Logan, Stefan RB 5-7 185 6/2/81 1 South Dakota
39 Parker, Willie RB 5-10 209 11/11/80 6 North Carolina

FB
35 Powdrell, Ryan FB 5-11 254 12/20/83 2 Southern California
38 Davis, Carey FB 5-10 225 3/27/81 4 Illinois


TE

83 Miller, Heath TE 6-5 256 10/22/82 5 Virginia
89 Spaeth, Matt TE 6-7 270 11/24/84 3 Minnesota
84 Sherrod, Dezmond TE 6-2 250 5/11/85 1 Mississippi State
49 McHugh, Sean TE 6-5 265 5/27/82 6 Penn State
85 Johnson, David TE 6-2 260 8/26/87 R Arkansas State

lilyoder6
06-21-2009, 10:33 AM
i'm gonna say that these 2 hopefully will be gone

33 Redman, Isaac RB 6-0 230 11/10/84 R Bowie State
28 Vincent, Justin RB 5-10 219 1/25/83 1 Louisiana State

FB
38 Davis, Carey FB 5-10 225 3/27/81 4 Illinois

no need for davis when u have summers and 2 te's who can play fb

Psyychoward86
06-21-2009, 10:54 AM
Sounds like we might have quietly caught a prize catch

stillers4me
06-21-2009, 10:59 AM
Sounds like we might have quietly caught a prize catch

Wouldn't that be awesome? We have a knack for that. Mewelde Moore was certainly an unexpected and welcome gift last year. :drink:

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-21-2009, 11:12 AM
I wonder if Kirby really said that. The pads aren't even on so a little hard for me to believe just how much he is liked just yet.....

I believe that Kirby said that, but you have to interpret what he probably meant.

Kirby was probably telling Shivers that "dont expect Stephan Logan to be returning for the opening of the CFL season in 2 weeks...he is probably gonna be in Pittsburgh until at least the end of August. That means that Logan will miss at least 8-10 games of the CFL season.

Still no guarantee that he will make the 53-man roster in Pittsburgh.

mesaSteeler
06-21-2009, 11:18 AM
I wonder if Kirby really said that. The pads aren't even on so a little hard for me to believe just how much he is liked just yet.....

Oh I think he may of said it since the article is from a legitimate newspaper. Perhaps the better question is did Kirby mean what he said or was he just spreading a little disinformation? It's rare that an assistant like Kirby gets quoted in the newspaper. He could have said it for a variety of reasons such as motivation for the running backs or to fool other teams.

Let's hope it is true and that we have uncovered a diamond in the rough. Considering the history of FWP and Silverback the Steelers are better than any other team in finding undiscovered talent.

Sharkissle29
06-21-2009, 12:05 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, we finally have speed at the return position!!!

It is amazing to have no return game and the next year have an absolute plethora to choose from.

I know we havnt seen them in action, but they will sure be quick....wallace,burnett,logan,ratliff

KeiselPower99
06-21-2009, 03:00 PM
I believe that Kirby said that, but you have to interpret what he probably meant.

Kirby was probably telling Shivers that "dont expect Stephan Logan to be returning for the opening of the CFL season in 2 weeks...he is probably gonna be in Pittsburgh until at least the end of August. That means that Logan will miss at least 8-10 games of the CFL season.

Still no guarantee that he will make the 53-man roster in Pittsburgh.

Probably what was meant. But ya never now.

Texasteel
06-21-2009, 03:18 PM
i'm gonna say that these 2 hopefully will be gone

33 Redman, Isaac RB 6-0 230 11/10/84 R Bowie State
28 Vincent, Justin RB 5-10 219 1/25/83 1 Louisiana State

FB
38 Davis, Carey FB 5-10 225 3/27/81 4 Illinois

no need for davis when u have summers and 2 te's who can play fb

I think your right. With possibly keeping Logan as a return man only.

STEELAMANIA
06-23-2009, 03:06 PM
I don't see what the Steelers like or see in Carey Davis.....

lilyoder6
06-23-2009, 03:31 PM
idk who the steelers have in mind for return duties.. but i see that logan and burnett will compete.. and i know they had memo and davis do it last yr..

hopefully between logan and burnett we have a good return game

pancake
06-23-2009, 03:44 PM
It would be nice to have a return game again. We have sucked in that department since we lost El...

MongoSteeler
06-24-2009, 05:55 AM
I've been pulling for Logan ever since I heard that the Steelers signed him. Remember, they signed him for 2 years. That in itself says that the FO liked him coming in. I've seen him play in college and the CFL. He is very fast, has great elusiveness and soft hands. Come and get it, Stefan.

Go Steelers, pluck another diamond out of the rough.

Galax Steeler
06-25-2009, 04:17 AM
It would be nice to have a return game again. We have sucked in that department since we lost El...

I agree I get tired of starting drives on the 20 or 25 yard line everytime.

Steelers & I
06-25-2009, 04:39 AM
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Lions+Steelers+steal+running+back+Stefan+Logan/1257767/story.html

Lions: Steelers steal running back Stefan Logan



VANCOUVER — Toronto Argonauts, a team which finished 4-14 last season and missed the playoffs, have lost four players to the National Football League.

And Wally Buono, coach and the general manager of the 11-7 B.C. Lions, saw his third starter go out the door Thursday.

Do you think NFL teams are beginning to notice the CFL has talent? The latest Lion to start running down his NFL dream is running back Stefan Logan, who will sign a two-year contract with the Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers today. He joins defensive end Cameron

Wake and linebacker Jamall Johnson who earlier reached deals with the Miami Dolphins and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, respectively.

“For sure, I’ll be competing for a spot on specials teams as a kick and punt returner,” Logan told The Vancouver Sun from his home in Miami. “I’d like to think they can use me as a third-down back, too. The important thing is to get on the field, and do something when the ball is in my hands.”

“Joystick,” the nickname Lions players bestowed on Logan last season, has a habit of getting upfield so fast that he’s gone before it registers. “There are times when you don’t even have to block for him,” Lions left tackle Rob Murphy said in November. “They can’t catch him. He’s special.”

Buono knows that, too. The loss of Logan’s sublime package of running skills is significant. Running back is usually one of the easiest positions to fill since there are hundreds of prospects coming out of U.S. colleges looking for a place to play. That said, Logan is unique.

Last season, Buono called him the CFL’s “most exciting player.”

It’s quite a statement — one that wouldn’t get an argument from anyone — and all the more remarkable because the 27-year-old rookie didn’t score a rushing touchdown last season. He picked up 889 yards on just 122 carries and caught 52 passes for 477 yards and three touchdowns.“Yes, when you look at running backs, that body type is not difficult to find,” Buono acknowledged. “When you look at the bowl games in college, there is a very good supply available. But guys like Stefan are more difficult to find. You rationalize his loss by saying to yourself, ‘There’s another one out there, and we’ve got to find him.’”

Logan said he worked out for the Steelers in mid-January. He had another tryout lined up with the Carolina Panthers and a third NFL team whose name he declined to disclose. But when the Steelers wanted him to sign, he cancelled his other arrangements and agreed to join Pittsburgh.

“It’s one of those deals you have to take and run with it. That’s what I’m going to do,” Logan said. “I hope all the fans of the B.C . Lions, the players, coaches and the people of Vancouver will hopefully have a great and successful season. I’ll be cheering for them. I hope they’ll be cheering for me.”

He didn’t receive a signing bonus, however, so the Steelers aren’t losing much by giving Logan a chance at training camp.

The Lions, who retain his CFL rights, could get him again on the rebound, if he’s released. They just don’t know.

“Yes, it’s disappoining to see a guy like Stefan go,” Buono said. “He was going to be a big part of what we did. But the point is, it’s hard to begrudge the guy his opportunity.”

Buono is hoping to continue contract discussions with offensive tackle Jason Jimenez, who was scheduled to be worked out Thursday in Tampa by the Buccaneers. While he isn’t expecting a fourth Lion to bolt to the NFL, Buono admits he’s prepared for anything.

“That’s what makes the job exciting — and tougher,” says the GM. “The excitement is in finding the next guy. Training camp is going to be a lot more exciting this year.”

Or anxious — if another Stefan Logan doesn’t appear on the horizon by the start of camp.

mbeamish@vancouversun

I realize that the CFL isn't quite up to par with the NFL but you still have to like what you read about Logan. Kick/punt returner and possibly some 3rd down assignments, hell I'm ready to see what he brings.

Could this be another "James Harrison or Willie Parker find" by the Steelers? How are the offensive linemen in the CFL? On a side note, Colbert sure does a lot of business with teams nicknamed "Lions".

Steely McSmash
06-25-2009, 09:47 PM
There were reports from Mini-camp that Logan was working out with the receivers some.

He might be one of these guys that they're just looking for any way to get the ball in his hands.

Sharkissle29
06-25-2009, 09:55 PM
There were reports from Mini-camp that Logan was working out with the receivers some.

He might be one of these guys that they're just looking for any way to get the ball in his hands.

If he is good enough, i think he may be used as a devon hester type (a few years back) where they try and give him 3 offensive touches a game...

Psyychoward86
06-25-2009, 10:20 PM
I've been pulling for Logan ever since I heard that the Steelers signed him. Remember, they signed him for 2 years. That in itself says that the FO liked him coming in. I've seen him play in college and the CFL. He is very fast, has great elusiveness and soft hands. Come and get it, Stefan.

Go Steelers, pluck another diamond out of the rough.

I agree. The fact that he got signed for 2 years shouldnt be overlooked.

PeckerWood
06-26-2009, 07:01 AM
first, did i need a translator for this article, or am i just hungover??

second, here is the roster. some of these fine players will have to go..... which ones???

Powdrell is gone already...


44 Summers, Frank RB 5-10 230 9/6/85 R UNLV
33 Redman, Isaac RB 6-0 230 11/10/84 R Bowie State
34 Mendenhall, Rashard RB 5-10 225 6/19/87 2 Illinois
28 Vincent, Justin RB 5-10 219 1/25/83 1 Louisiana State
21 Moore, Mewelde RB 5-11 209 7/24/82 6 Tulane
41 Logan, Stefan RB 5-7 185 6/2/81 1 South Dakota
39 Parker, Willie RB 5-10 209 11/11/80 6 North Carolina

FB
35 Powdrell, Ryan FB 5-11 254 12/20/83 2 Southern California
38 Davis, Carey FB 5-10 225 3/27/81 4 Illinois


TE

83 Miller, Heath TE 6-5 256 10/22/82 5 Virginia
89 Spaeth, Matt TE 6-7 270 11/24/84 3 Minnesota
84 Sherrod, Dezmond TE 6-2 250 5/11/85 1 Mississippi State
49 McHugh, Sean TE 6-5 265 5/27/82 6 Penn State
85 Johnson, David TE 6-2 260 8/26/87 R Arkansas State


Take RB away from Logan's name and replace it with WR/KR like the poster posted he will be working with thr slot recievers and kick retuners. I think he will be a good slot reciever in the NFL.

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-26-2009, 10:22 AM
Take RB away from Logan's name and replace it with WR/KR like the poster posted he will be working with thr slot recievers and kick retuners. I think he will be a good slot reciever in the NFL.

True, if you think the Steelers only carry 6 D linemen instead of 7 like last year, or 9 O linemen instead of 10 last year....there is a spot for Logan.

I think if he proves he can return kicks, then he will have a spot on ST and may get some time situationally in 4 and 5 wide sets, or as the 3rd down RB. He fits more of the same role that Jameel White did for BA in Cleveland.

Jooser
06-26-2009, 11:08 AM
I think Summers will eventually be listed as a FB, and Justin Vincent? I don't see it happening.....

MongoSteeler
07-03-2009, 02:18 AM
5'7, 185lbs, KR/PR, fast, good hands.

That actually reminds me of someone. If you were reading this on a San Diego board, who would you be thinking of?

Galax Steeler
07-03-2009, 04:52 AM
Darren Sproles :applaudit:

Upnorth
07-07-2009, 12:00 PM
Being a huge fan of the CFL it is always nice to see one the players get the call to play in the NFL,even thou you hate to lose a good player off your team (ticats and we need them) But I like to follow the players when they come down, but it refreshing to see a site that talks about the player and not ''He is from the CFL, it sucks and so will he'' as is going on on the miami board over cameron wake. He may make it and may not make it but I wish him well with your team.

fansince'76
07-07-2009, 12:08 PM
....it refreshing to see a site that talks about the player and not ''He is from the CFL, it sucks and so will he'' as is going on on the miami board over cameron wake. He may make it and may not make it but I wish him well with your team.

Yep, and I don't get that mentality. Warren Moon was a pretty good CFL "product," for one example. Nothing wrong with the CFL.

Welcome to the board! :cheers:

Vis
07-07-2009, 01:19 PM
Stefan Logan is going to be our Darren Sproles. But he has to change that number if he wants to be a star in this league. Number 41 :nono:

My son is a RB for the Eastside Dolphins and is #41. That makes it all better.

Upnorth
07-07-2009, 01:37 PM
Yep, and I don't get that mentality. Warren Moon was a pretty good CFL "product," for one example. Nothing wrong with the CFL.

Welcome to the board! :cheers:And garcia, flutie ,thiesman, and others. I to watch the NFL, I like the packers and of course the steelers , they have helped out my ticats in tough times years back and we have never forgotten that.

mmalone
07-08-2009, 09:57 AM
Darren Sproles :applaudit:

If Logan can take the hits like Sproles. We have a great addition at RB/WR/KR

Watching some of the slow mo action of Sproles getting wacked and hangin on to the ball is amazing.

Rossum from Atlanta he was fast, didnt he run one back for 7 right off the bat. Then he never really had a great run back after that? or did i miss 'um.

KeiselPower99
07-08-2009, 10:35 AM
If Logan can take the hits like Sproles. We have a great addition at RB/WR/KR

Watching some of the slow mo action of Sproles getting wacked and hangin on to the ball is amazing.

Rossum from Atlanta he was fast, didnt he run one back for 7 right off the bat. Then he never really had a great run back after that? or did i miss 'um.

Rossum had the return against San Fran and really didnt do much else all season.

Psyychoward86
07-08-2009, 10:36 AM
If Logan can take the hits like Sproles. We have a great addition at RB/WR/KR

Watching some of the slow mo action of Sproles getting wacked and hangin on to the ball is amazing.

Rossum from Atlanta he was fast, didnt he run one back for 7 right off the bat. Then he never really had a great run back after that? or did i miss 'um.

Rossum had his finest year as a return man by far with the 49ers last season. But I'm sure we have something as good, if not better on this roster.