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tony hipchest
06-24-2009, 07:50 PM
:sofunny:


Analysis: SC gov's disappearance a problem for GOP

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_go_ot/us_gop_governors__woes_analysis

NEW YORK – South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's mysterious disappearance from his state, topped with misinformation from his staff about where he had gone and what he'd been doing, is the latest sign that Republican governors — once thought to be President Obama's most credible adversaries — haven't quite lived up to their billing.

From Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's cringe-inducing nationally televised response to Obama's first budget address to Texas Gov. Rick Perry's suggestion that his state might secede, GOP governors — including those said to be eyeing a potential 2012 presidential bid — haven't exactly looked like the political grown-ups many party strategists had promised.

And none has had a rockier go of it than the party's best-known governor, Alaska's Sarah Palin. The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee has been dogged by ethics complaints and has engaged in public feuds with David Letterman and with Levi Johnston, the former fiance of Palin's teenage daughter, Bristol, and the father of Bristol's infant son.

Palin, whose vice presidential bid sparked a devoted grass-roots following across the country, has also angered GOP leaders in Washington for poor communication and for canceling appearances at party events and fundraisers.

But the latest high-profile fiasco involves Sanford, the Republican Governors Association chairman whose outspoken effort to refuse part of the federal stimulus money due his state has made him a darling of conservatives and fueled talk that he harbors presidential aspirations.

Sanford planned to return to work Wednesday after a six-day absence from South Carolina, during which time his staff said he'd been hiking along the Appalachian Trail.

That information proved incorrect. Sanford emerged at the Atlanta airport Wednesday morning, telling a reporter for The State newspaper that he had traveled to Argentina instead. Sanford said he had told his staff before leaving that he might go on the U.S. hike.

While Sanford's spokesman called the governor's absence an opportunity for him to unwind after a stressful legislative session, his whereabouts were unknown to his security detail, and even his wife said she didn't know.

the appalachian trail is in argentina? :huh: argentinian tail>appalachian trail

SC Gov. Sanford admits affair after going AWOL

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_sc_governor_where;_ylt=Aq1eNWRxsM_E7nBXQTlgIbFH 2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTJmdTg5YWxmBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC91c19zY19n b3Zlcm5vcl93aGVyZQRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3RvcF 9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNzY2dvdnNhbmZvcmQ-

COLUMBIA, S.C. – After going AWOL for seven days, Gov. Mark Sanford admitted Wednesday that he had secretly flown to Argentina to visit a woman with whom he was having an affair. Wiping away tears, he apologized to his family and gave up a national Republican Party post, but was silent on whether he would resign.

"I've been unfaithful to my wife," he said in a news conference in which the 49-year-old governor ruminated on God's law, moral absolutes and following one's heart. He said he spent the last five days "crying in Argentina."

Sanford, who in recent months had been mentioned as a possible presidential candidate in 2012, said he would resign as head of the Republican Governors Association.

By leaving the country without formally transferring power, critics said he neglected his gubernatorial authority and put the state at risk. It wasn't clear how his staff could reach him in an emergency.

At least one state lawmaker called for his resignation. As a congressman, Sanford voted in favor of three of four articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, citing the need for "moral legitimacy." :jerkit:

The affair is now over, Sanford said, describing the woman who lives in Argentina as a "dear, dear friend" whom he has known for about eight years and been romantically involved with for about a year. He said he has seen her three times since the affair began, and his wife found out about it five months ago. A newspaper published steamy e-mails between Sanford and the woman. He did not identify her.

"What I did was wrong. Period," he said. His family did not attend the news conference, and his wife Jenny Sanford said she asked the governor to leave and stop speaking to her two weeks ago. The governor said he wants to reconcile, and his wife's statement said her husband has earned a chance to resurrect their marriage.

"This trial separation was agreed to with the goal of ultimately strengthening our marriage," she said.

Sanford denied instructing his staff to cover up his affair, but acknowledged that he told them he thought he would be hiking on the Appalachian Trail and never corrected that impression after leaving for South America.

"I let them down by creating a fiction with regard to where I was going," Sanford said. "I said that was the original possibility. Again, this is my fault in ... shrouding this larger trip."

Questions about Sanford's whereabouts arose early this week. For two days after reporters started asking questions, his office had said he had gone hiking on the trail.

Cornered at the Atlanta airport by a reporter from The State newspaper, Sanford revealed Wednesday morning that he had gone to Argentina for a seven-day trip.

When news first broke about his mysterious disappearance, Jenny Sanford told The Associated Press she did not know where her husband and father of their four sons had gone for the Father's Day weekend. She said he needed time away to write.

Sanford emerged Wednesday afternoon at a news conference, where he mused openly of his love of hiking and how he used to guide trips along the Appalachian Trail, and eventually tearfully apologized to his wife, his staff and his friends — but without yet saying what he was apologizing for.

"I hurt a lot of different folks," he said, occasionally choking up throughout the news conference that lasted about 20 minutes.

With those watching still wondering what he was admitting, Sanford said: "The odyssey that we're all on in life is with regard to heart."

Excerpts of e-mail exchanges between the governor and his mistress were published online Wednesday by The State. The governor's office wouldn't discuss the e-mails with The Associated Press, but told The State it wouldn't dispute the authenticity of the messages.

One from the governor read: "I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificent gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curve of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night's light — but hey, that would be going into sexual details."

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Sanford's announcement came a day after another prominent Republican, Sen. John Ensign of Nevada, apologized to his GOP Senate colleagues after revealing last week that he had an affair with a campaign staffer and was resigning from the GOP leadership.

ouch! i said it back in march. gop fighting for control. or atleast fighting to keep from tripping all over themselves.

tony hipchest
06-24-2009, 08:06 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/16/AR2009061602746.html

Sen. Ensign Acknowledges an Extramarital Affair


Sen. John Ensign (Nev.), considered a rising star in the Republican Party, yesterday acknowledged an extramarital affair with a former campaign staffer who is married to one of the lawmaker's former legislative aides.

Ensign, a member of the Senate Republican leadership, disclosed the affair at a hastily arranged news briefing in Las Vegas, his home town. He flew home yesterday morning after informing GOP leaders on Capitol Hill of his impending announcement, missing a vote on tourism legislation considered important to Nevada's casino industry.

The news was the latest setback for a party that suffered losses of at least 13 Senate seats in the past two elections and saw Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.) defect to the Democrats in April. Any further instability in their ranks is unwelcome news for Republicans, who viewed Ensign as a telegenic communicator who could deliver the conservative message on political talk shows in a congenial matter.

Ensign did not directly comment about his political future but said he was "committed to my service in the United States Senate." He does not face reelection until 2012 and had taken preliminary steps to explore a run for the White House that year, making a trip three weeks ago to Iowa, the first testing ground on the presidential primary calendar.

what a mess.

steelwall
06-24-2009, 08:16 PM
Much like Bill Clinton, and John Edwards... not a suprise seeing as a good number of politicians are douchbags....

Godfather
06-24-2009, 10:44 PM
Sanford and Ensign are RINOs. A real Republican would cheat on his wife with a man :rofl:

tony hipchest
06-25-2009, 12:14 AM
bu..bu..bu..but... clinton/edwards?

really?

:rofl:

actually, this would be a predictable and typical GOP move to put a wife cheater on the ticket, and try to say "clinton did it, why cant we?"

desperate times call for desperate measures, right?

all that aside, i think anyone with a sound mind knows that being a politician doesnt predispose anyone to committing adultery.

liars, cheats, and crooks cross all walks of life, whether it be politics, the police, the patriots, the clergy, or even the private business sector.... :jawdrop:

MACH1
06-25-2009, 12:32 AM
bu..bu..bu..but... clinton/edwards?

really?

:rofl:

actually, this would be a predictable and typical GOP move to put a wife cheater on the ticket, and try to say "clinton did it, why cant we?"

desperate times call for desperate measures, right?

all that aside, i think anyone with a sound mind knows that being a politician doesn't predispose anyone to committing adultery.

liars, cheats, and crooks cross all walks of life, whether it be politics, the police, the patriots, the clergy, or even the private business sector.... :jawdrop:

Bu Bu Bu But Bush........Pot calling kettle.

Their all pretty much worthless, just some more than others, like the inexperienced head community organizer. :smoker:

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
06-25-2009, 03:18 AM
no politician is voting for, but some are worth voting against...

SCSTILLER
06-25-2009, 06:54 AM
Is everyone really trying to turn this into a dem/repub thing, there are dirtbags on both sides of the isle. Clinton, Edwards, Spitzer, Sanford, hell the Kennedy's, Ensign, and the list goes on and on. Neither side is above cheating!

Sanford was, maybe still is, trying to sell his beach house in Charleston, wonder if this was a reason why? Dump some assets.

Oh, and Tony, listen to the Shnitt show much?

GBMelBlount
06-25-2009, 07:26 AM
Analysis: Obama is a socialist... :chuckle:

revefsreleets
06-25-2009, 08:14 AM
Charlie Crist would make an interesting candidate for the GOP now that's he's been outed as gay in the documentary "Outrage".

The truth is, there won't be an emerging candidate until the mid-terms. Anything that happens this early will be forgotten by the pop media, as they only have about a 5 minute attention span anyway.

HometownGal
06-25-2009, 08:26 AM
actually, this would be a predictable and typical GOP move to put a wife cheater on the ticket, and try to say "clinton did it, why cant we?"

desperate times call for desperate measures, right?



No more predictable and typical than a Demo move while their lap dog is running for office to ridicule and denounce the current administration's policies, only to turn around and adopt the same policies that they themselves denounced and ridiculed. :doh: :willy:

desperate times call for desperate measures, right? :flap:

Dino 6 Rings
06-25-2009, 08:26 AM
The truth is, there won't be an emerging candidate until the mid-terms. Anything that happens this early will be forgotten by the pop media, as they only have about a 5 minute attention span anyway.

Agreed, now is not the time to run, now is the time to clean out the trash. I'm glad this scummbagg got busted being unfaithful, glad he was busted, not that he did it.

If he lies to his wife, he is willing to lie to the people. take out all the trash prior to the 2010 mid terms, then the GOP will be in a better situation.

Besides, they don't need to be the party of "the faithful" or the "moral" just the party of fiscal conservatism, strong defense, America first, justice and freedom. Stronger Borders, less allowance of Criminal activity at our Borders, because crossing the border without permission is still a Crime.

I mean, the Dems don't run as the "Not Moral" party. No need to run as the "Moral" Party. The only "moral" issue really is that of Abortion. And with all the Catholics that supported B.O. this last election, its not worth it to the GOP to make it a strong issue. Just go with Fiscal Conservatism, Smaller Government at the Federal Level, Lower Taxes across the board, Tax breaks for Companies that make products in the USA, stuff like that. Strong National Defense, Support of Freedom and Democracy all around the world.

X-Terminator
06-25-2009, 10:45 AM
Agreed, now is not the time to run, now is the time to clean out the trash. I'm glad this scummbagg got busted being unfaithful, glad he was busted, not that he did it.

If he lies to his wife, he is willing to lie to the people. take out all the trash prior to the 2010 mid terms, then the GOP will be in a better situation.

Besides, they don't need to be the party of "the faithful" or the "moral" just the party of fiscal conservatism, strong defense, America first, justice and freedom. Stronger Borders, less allowance of Criminal activity at our Borders, because crossing the border without permission is still a Crime.

I mean, the Dems don't run as the "Not Moral" party. No need to run as the "Moral" Party. The only "moral" issue really is that of Abortion. And with all the Catholics that supported B.O. this last election, its not worth it to the GOP to make it a strong issue. Just go with Fiscal Conservatism, Smaller Government at the Federal Level, Lower Taxes across the board, Tax breaks for Companies that make products in the USA, stuff like that. Strong National Defense, Support of Freedom and Democracy all around the world.

They run as the "morality" party because they've allowed the religious right to have way too much influence over them, when they should be running exactly as you say. Given all of the politicians on the right who have literally gotten caught with their pants down, they can't claim the moral high ground anymore. I'm not saying that they should ignore the religious right altogether, just lessen their power within the party. Fiscal conservatism and strict adherence thereof is what will win them elections, because the average Joe cares about his wallet above all else, regardless of their political leanings.

tony hipchest
06-25-2009, 07:03 PM
Is everyone really trying to turn this into a dem/repub thing, there are dirtbags on both sides of the isle. Clinton, Edwards, Spitzer, Sanford, hell the Kennedy's, Ensign, and the list goes on and on. Neither side is above cheating!

Which is pretty much exactly what i said in post #5


all that aside, i think anyone with a sound mind knows that being a politician doesnt predispose anyone to committing adultery.

liars, cheats, and crooks cross all walks of life, whether it be politics, the police, the patriots, the clergy, or even the private business sector....

Sanford was, maybe still is, trying to sell his beach house in Charleston, wonder if this was a reason why? Dump some assets.

Oh, and Tony, listen to the Shnitt show much?never heard of shnitt but it sounds like shit. :noidea:

SteelCityMan786
06-25-2009, 07:27 PM
Is everyone really trying to turn this into a dem/repub thing, there are dirtbags on both sides of the isle. Clinton, Edwards, Spitzer, Sanford, hell the Kennedy's, Ensign, and the list goes on and on. Neither side is above cheating!

Sanford was, maybe still is, trying to sell his beach house in Charleston, wonder if this was a reason why? Dump some assets.

Oh, and Tony, listen to the Shnitt show much?

BINGO! :thumbsup: Both sides have their idiots. As far as I am concerned both sides of the aisle have their faults. People just don't give up already and hold both sides accountable. This year alone is showing what can happen whenever you have one party holding both the White House/Congress at one time. It's never pretty.

Analysis: Obama is a socialist... :chuckle:

He sure is going back on to his word with his Socialist Programs.

No more predictable and typical than a Demo move while their lap dog is running for office to ridicule and denounce the current administration's policies, only to turn around and adopt the same policies that they themselves denounced and ridiculed. :doh: :willy:

desperate times call for desperate measures, right? :flap:

Both sides are as predictable as the other. Dems kicked and screamed and got their way to get the majority back in 2006. Good Chance Repubs. got their way doing that in 1994(Heck I wouldn't know, I was only 3 at the time). However, almost every move by the Dems becomes more baffling by the day.

Vincent
06-26-2009, 10:38 AM
Is everyone really trying to turn this into a dem/repub thing, there are dirtbags on both sides of the isle. Clinton, Edwards, Spitzer, Sanford, hell the Kennedy's, Ensign, and the list goes on and on. Neither side is above cheating!

Sanford was, maybe still is, trying to sell his beach house in Charleston, wonder if this was a reason why? Dump some assets.

Oh, and Tony, listen to the Shnitt show much?

I have never been impressed with repub sexual escapades. Dems have them on style points every time. Who can trump the Ted & Chris waitress sandwich, or Monica Lewinsky, or the Banking Queen's callboy service, Spitzer's hoes, Gary Studds (what a name :toofunny:) schtooping little boys, Mel Reynolds schtooping little girls, and on and on and on.

Although of late, the repubs are starting to to show some style. Jack Ryan pimping his wife in sex clubs was very stylish. Mark Foley was amusing, but I think his real opportunity is at hand (so to speak) now that any mention of gayfulness is a "hate crime". He should sue the party. I'll give Sanford points for imagination, but no style points.

Do you suppose that if Jack hadn't pimped Jeri there might not have been a non-citizen occupying the White House? Oh, these are rich times.

revefsreleets
06-26-2009, 10:42 AM
Don't forget the infamous Gary Hart daring reporters to follow him around, and, when they did: DOH! They caught him canoodling with Donna Rice. This, of course, was pre-Clinton, when it suddenly became possible to cheat AND be presidential at the same time.

Godfather
06-26-2009, 10:53 AM
Although of late, the repubs are starting to to show some style. Jack Ryan pimping his wife in sex clubs was very stylish. Mark Foley was amusing, but I think his real opportunity is at hand (so to speak) now that any mention of gayfulness is a "hate crime". He should sue the party. I'll give Sanford points for imagination, but no style points.

Hey now, don't forget Diaper Dave Vitter and Larry Craig :sofunny:

Vincent
06-26-2009, 10:55 AM
Don't forget the infamous Gary Hart daring reporters to follow him around, and, when they did: DOH! They caught him canoodling with Donna Rice. This, of course, was pre-Clinton, when it suddenly became possible to cheat AND be presidential at the same time.

My mind wants to reject Gary Hart. He's one of the most annoying dems of all time, and his fling was unremarkable (for a dem) except for the name of the boat. Gary Condit's much more intriguing. The chick disappeared. Sanford disappeared too, but then he showed up. Weak.

Vincent
06-26-2009, 11:02 AM
Hey now, don't forget Diaper Dave Vitter and Larry Craig :sofunny:

Diapers...

http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/al_franken_bunny_web.jpg

Is it a "Senate thing"?