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I-Want-Troy's-Hair
07-16-2009, 01:20 AM
In the State of California 500K private sectors jobs have been lost. Jobs losses for Govt workers is drum roll please........5300. What is wrong with this picture.

Preacher
07-16-2009, 01:25 AM
Nothing.

drive up to Oregon and back, and you will find a border crossing coming back into California.

That's right... A BORDER CROSSING ON I5.

Welcome to the United Soviet Socialist Republic of California

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
07-16-2009, 01:50 AM
Nothing.

drive up to Oregon and back, and you will find a border crossing coming back into California.

That's right... A BORDER CROSSING ON I5.

Welcome to the United Soviet Socialist Republic of California

Border crossing what the hell do we need a border crossing for this freaking state let's EVERYONE in. California holds 13% of this countries population and 30% of the welfare cases. Don't get me started. :mad: and after Osama Obama shoves health care up our asses amnesty is next on his socialist agenda....we are screwed.

Have ya been to a DMV lately. Point made.

revefsreleets
07-16-2009, 09:49 AM
I'm surprised they didn't ADD 5300 jobs.

KeiselPower99
07-16-2009, 10:10 AM
Can we sell California back to Mexico?

steelreserve
07-16-2009, 11:13 AM
In the State of California 500K private sectors jobs have been lost. Jobs losses for Govt workers is drum roll please........5300. What is wrong with this picture.

Unions. For the last 20 years, the state has basically let the teachers' unions, firefighters' unions, public service unions, etc., have basically whatever they want. Now everyone's well-paid and gets health care for free, and it's almost impossible to fire anyone.

It's not unusual to see firemen making a starting salary of $150,000-$200,000. The BART train station agents get paid $31 an hour (plus free health care and a fully funded retirement plan at $50,000 a year) to sit at the information booth, and they're going on strike because they want a raise. It costs almost twice as much to run the prisons here ($45,000 a year per prisoner compared to $27,000 national average) because the prison guard unions have forced them to constantly jack up salaries for decades. I swear I am not making this up. link 1 (http://www.sacbee.com/walters/v-print/story/1984782.html) link 2 (http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/vallejo/?appSession=50499189270915) link 2a (http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/vallejo/?appSession=86399189668228) link 3 (http://www.insidebayarea.com/dailyreview/localnews/ci_12682226)

So ... yeah. That's what's wrong with this picture. I've got to get out of this stupid state.

MACH1
07-16-2009, 11:14 AM
In the State of California 500K private sectors jobs have been lost. Jobs losses for Govt workers is drum roll please........5300. What is wrong with this picture.

A future glimpse of the obonga administration plan.

Godfather
07-16-2009, 12:22 PM
Have ya been to a DMV lately. Point made.

I always get a chuckle out of this example because the DMV is the only Mississippi agency I've dealt with that DOESN'T deserve an F-.

Hammer67
07-16-2009, 12:58 PM
At least they are considering leaglizing pot. That should happen nationally. Think of the jobs that could produce! Tax the heck out of it. Create a new industry. Lower stupid non violent court cases.

Fire Haley
07-16-2009, 01:09 PM
Calif. tax officials: Legal pot would bring $1.4B

A bill to tax and regulate marijuana in California like alcohol would generate nearly $1.4 billion in revenue for the cash-strapped state, according to an official analysis released Wednesday by tax officials.

The State Board of Equalization report estimates marijuana retail sales would bring $990 million from a $50-per-ounce fee and $392 million in sales taxes.

The bill introduced by San Francisco Democratic Assemblyman Tom Ammiano in February would allow adults 21 and older to legally possess, grow and sell marijuana.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_re_us/us_marijuana_taxes

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States Rights!

revefsreleets
07-16-2009, 01:18 PM
"Caleeeefornia, give these people pot!"

Godfather
07-16-2009, 02:25 PM
At least they are considering leaglizing pot. That should happen nationally. Think of the jobs that could produce! Tax the heck out of it. Create a new industry. Lower stupid non violent court cases.

I agree. And the feds need to repeal all of their drug laws. They're not supposed to be involved in law enforcement.

fansince'76
07-16-2009, 06:27 PM
The State Board of Equalization report estimates marijuana retail sales would bring $990 million from a $50-per-ounce fee and $392 million in sales taxes.

Fifty bucks for an ounce? That's a steal unless it's complete schwag and even then it's not really a bad price.

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
07-16-2009, 06:58 PM
At least they are considering leaglizing pot. That should happen nationally. Think of the jobs that could produce! Tax the heck out of it. Create a new industry. Lower stupid non violent court cases.

That might help for a while but California SEnators and Assemblymen are whor*s and bitches to the unions. What we are paying for with out tax money is illegal aliens' and Union benefits, contract and retirement plans. If these contacts are not busted up and re-done things won't change. One of our Assemblywoman Noreen Evans comes out to say that it's the CA taxpayers responsibility to take care of the needs of the less fortunate. This is what we are up against ....Eat shit and die Noreen Evans and take the rest of the whor*s with you. I freaking hate this state but since there are no jobs anywhere else I'm stuck here and if I gotta go down I'm going down swinging.

SteelersinCA
07-16-2009, 07:08 PM
California, 30% of the nations wealth, 50% of our budget spent on education and 47th in the nation in education, can you say Go Union!!!!! F Unions....

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
07-16-2009, 07:24 PM
California, 30% of the nations wealth, 50% of our budget spent on education and 47th in the nation in education, can you say Go Union!!!!! F Unions....


The drop out rate for this "wonderful" school system for which we pay 50% of the budget is 50%. And add to the CA has the highest paid teachers in the country. I'm just confused as to who exactly they are teaching. The teachers union is now trying to get a proposition on the ballot in 2010 to increase sales tax another 1 percent and they will tell you it's for "the children" ahh how about it's for your pension. Yeah -- whatever. :flipoff:

steelreserve
07-16-2009, 07:27 PM
California, 30% of the nations wealth, 50% of our budget spent on education and 47th in the nation in education, can you say Go Union!!!!! F Unions....

Not to mention the fact that California probably spends more money on free health care and education for citizens of Mexico than the Mexican government itself does.

See, nobody wants to cut that out of the budget because it would make things hard on the illegal immigrants ... so naturally, the smart thing to do is just go along with it and make things hard on everyone when the whole state goes broke.

steelreserve
07-16-2009, 07:31 PM
The drop out rate for this "wonderful" school system for which we pay 50% of the budget is 50%. And add to the CA has the highest paid teachers in the country. I'm just confused as to who exactly they are teaching.

Dude ... what I said in my last post. Besides the illegal immigrants, there are a ton of legal immigrants whose kids either don't want to learn or don't have much of a shot at it to begin with. Of course, the only answer anyone ever comes up with is to spend more money and pay for it with taxes on the rich and cigarettes, and we all know how well that works.

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
07-16-2009, 07:58 PM
See, nobody wants to cut that out of the budget because it would make things hard on the illegal immigrants ... so naturally, the smart thing to do is just go along with it and make things hard on everyone when the whole state goes broke.

EXACTLY. Just call me Ms. "Everyone."

SteelersinCA
07-17-2009, 12:33 PM
We let it happen. Maybe if we voted the idiots out or stopped voting for the ballots it would get better.

revefsreleets
07-17-2009, 01:03 PM
Should we resurrect Lex Luther's plan to blow up California and rebuild the new West Coast of Nevada?

steelreserve
07-17-2009, 01:16 PM
We let it happen. Maybe if we voted the idiots out or stopped voting for the ballots it would get better.

That would be nice, except that the people who think that are way too outnumbered to do anything about it. The state has filled up with people who are either way left-wing because they came here to embrace the state's liberal reputation, or way left-wing because they depend heavily on government services. The only candidates who can hope for more than 20% of the vote in most of the assembly districts around here are the ones ranging from party-line Democrat to extremist Democrat.

This is basically the outcome you can expect when you have one group of people who are demanding public services, and a completely different group of people being asked to pay for them. The smart thing to do is probably flee.

steelreserve
07-17-2009, 01:18 PM
Should we resurrect Lex Luther's plan to blow up California and rebuild the new West Coast of Nevada?

And yes, I would fully support this, although I'd worry that then Nevada would fill up with idiots too. Maybe they'd stay away because the desert is too hot for them. But if coastal weather set in, it'd be all over.

Fire Haley
07-17-2009, 01:30 PM
Fifty bucks for an ounce? That's a steal unless it's complete schwag and even then it's not really a bad price.


Um no - I think that's just the tax they would add on.

Medical MJ - currently in effect in Cali

Marijuana is typically purchased by patients in 1/8 ounce (3.5 grams) quantities at a usual purchase price of $60 per 1/8 ounce for marijuana that is considered moderate to high quality. The average per gram cost is therefore considered to be $17.14 per gram.


California NORML's analysis of the benefits of marijuana legalization are as follows:


An excise tax of $1 per half-gram joint of marijuana would raise about $1 billion per year, as much as the current excise tax on cigarettes.

Retail sales on the legal market would range from $3 - $5 billion, generating another $250 - 400 million in sales taxes.

Legalization would save over $156 million in law enforcement costs for arrest, prosecution, trial and imprisonment of marijuana offenders. Intrusive CAMP helicopter surveillance would also be eliminated.

Based on experience with the cigarette tax, total revenues of $1.5 - $2.5 billion might be realized.

Based on experience with the wine industry, the total economic activity generated by legal marijuana could be nearly three times as great as retail sales, around $8 - $13 billion. Amsterdam-style coffeehouses would generate jobs and tourism. If the marijuana industry were just one-third the size of the wine industry, it would generate 50,000 jobs and $1.4 billion in wages, along with additional income and business tax revenues for the state


http://www.canorml.org/background/CA_legalization.html

fansince'76
07-17-2009, 01:52 PM
Um no - I think that's just the tax they would add on.

Medical MJ - currently in effect in Cali

Marijuana is typically purchased by patients in 1/8 ounce (3.5 grams) quantities at a usual purchase price of $60 per 1/8 ounce for marijuana that is considered moderate to high quality. The average per gram cost is therefore considered to be $17.14 per gram.

Knew it sounded too good to be true. When I was younger and dumber (20+ years ago) and still smoked, a quarter-ounce of the kind ran $60-$80 then. Of course, if it is legalized, there's nothing to stop one from growing their own at that point.

steelreserve
07-17-2009, 01:52 PM
Um no - I think that's just the tax they would add on.

Medical MJ - currently in effect in Cali

Marijuana is typically purchased by patients in 1/8 ounce (3.5 grams) quantities at a usual purchase price of $60 per 1/8 ounce for marijuana that is considered moderate to high quality. The average per gram cost is therefore considered to be $17.14 per gram.

If they made it legal to grow pot, I guarantee you the price of the drug itself would drop to almost nothing. It's not a difficult thing to grow by the shitload if you could do it openly. Someone would just plant 10,000 acres of it and start selling it for $5 an ounce plus tax, and everyone else would have to either do the same or nobody would buy it from them.

steelreserve
07-17-2009, 01:55 PM
Knew it sounded too good to be true. When I was younger and dumber (20+ years ago) and still smoked, an eighth of the kind ran $60-$80 then.

One thing I've found remarkable is that despite inflation, recessions, wars, you name it ... the price of weed always stays the same. Maybe that's what people ought to be investing in when times get tough, instead of gold or foreign currencies.

fansince'76
07-17-2009, 01:57 PM
One thing I've found remarkable is that despite inflation, recessions, wars, you name it ... the price of weed always stays the same. Maybe that's what people ought to be investing in when times get tough, instead of gold or foreign currencies.

Actually, it has gone up over the years - if they're selling eighths over the counter for $60-$80 bucks, that's double what I used to pay 20 years ago as I paid around the same amount for a quarter then.

Fire Haley
07-17-2009, 02:16 PM
I think my glaucoma is flaring up - I should move to cali


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http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/LethalDos/Best-Medicial-Marijuana-NNCC-Jars.jpg

steelreserve
07-17-2009, 02:36 PM
Actually, it has gone up over the years - if they're selling eighths over the counter for $60-$80 bucks, that's double what I used to pay 20 years ago as I paid around the same amount for a quarter then.

Aww, man, I thought it said an eighth, but now I look back and see where I screwed up. I haven't heard of a 1/8 going for $80 anywhere except the over-the-counter dispensary, though. It's still $60 for the typical, er ... less legal ways of buying it everywhere I've seen. Which is basically unchanged from when I was in college almost 15 years ago.

I know, maybe the price of weed in California just got jacked up a long time ago to the max that people are willing to pay, and that hasn't changed. Makes sense, since everything is more expensive here.

SteelersinCA
07-17-2009, 03:49 PM
There are a lot of marijuana co-ops popping up in Cali these days. Ever since Obama said he wouldn't crack down on them in CA, my buddy who is a corporate attorney says they have been setting up co-ops for all kinds of people.

Steelerstrength
07-17-2009, 05:22 PM
I think my glaucoma is flaring up - I should move to cali


http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.thefreshscent.com/wp-content/post_imgs/0407/tfs_mm_superbubbakush.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEYp64qEV_e_x-JzgqjUS4Vf8vesQhttp://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.thefreshscent.com/wp-content/post_imgs/0507/tfs_mm_hollywoodog.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGvTKzaF2cz_SEMT-3c2DelkdlVxQ

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/LethalDos/Best-Medicial-Marijuana-NNCC-Jars.jpg

Damn that shit stinks!!! I can smell it thru the computer screen! Mmmmmmm!:smoker::pizza::naughty::drool::cookie::co okie:

MACH1
07-17-2009, 09:20 PM
This is only one State...............If this doesn't open eyes, nothing will!

From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County (L. A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10.. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County )

(All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth(and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens .

xfl2001fan
07-17-2009, 10:26 PM
That'll open eyes...unfortunately, that means Pelosi will want to open your wallet (and mine) to help these "poor souls" out.

Godfather
07-18-2009, 05:12 PM
That'll open eyes...unfortunately, that means Pelosi will want to open your wallet (and mine) to help these "poor souls" out.

Actually, you might wanna snope that one.

Some of those stats don't pass the smell test.