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devilsdancefloor
07-22-2009, 12:29 AM
Im gonna have to agree with preacher on this one. She is a skank a ho & whatever else she has been called. We really do not know what went on. Lets wait until we have real facts not shiat from TMZ or PFT... I beleive Ben is innocent, but she might have more "problems" than we know about.

tony hipchest
07-22-2009, 12:33 AM
My issue isn't that she whether she is or is not lying. As I said, I seriously have my doubts about the veracity of the claims.

My issue IS the fact that she is being demonized on this board.... called horrid names, accused of being a wh0re and a profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilter, and Evidence number 1? She isn't pretty enough to be raped.

That doesn't sicken you?so is your issue just with this girl, or does it also sicken you when the likes of ray lewis, chad johnson, obama, hilary, or ted kennedy are called horrid names and being accused of everything under the sun?

plenty of people are constantly demonized on this board and nobody ever seems to take exception unless its bu..bu..bu.. (you know the rest).

KeiselPower99
07-22-2009, 12:35 AM
I wonder how many woman groups are gonna invade Latrobe next week and protest Ben??

tony hipchest
07-22-2009, 12:37 AM
I wonder how many woman groups are gonna invade Latrobe next week and protest Ben??im sure a few browns and bengal fans will show up in a weak assed attempt to heckle....

i just wonder how long it will take section514 to get "Me Next, Ben?" shirts on the market for the ladies to sport at camp (and games).. :noidea:

KeiselPower99
07-22-2009, 12:39 AM
im sure a few browns and bengal fans will show up in a weak assed attempt to heckle....

Those technically are woman groups aint they?

MACH1
07-22-2009, 12:40 AM
She isn't THAT bad looking.

Anyways, like others have said, it could just be like the Bettis thing and have no basis and this will be over before the season starts.

Innocent until proven guilty. Plus its a civil case, meaning that she does not have any REAL evidence.

Best hope that none of the seven co-workers step up and collaborate her story. Then its going to turn into a real shit storm.

onefortheotherhand
07-22-2009, 12:41 AM
How many of these threads are you gonna start?

A good mod would know what to do.

this is kind of a big deal so everyone might as well post everything they know about the case

MACH1
07-22-2009, 12:47 AM
How many of these threads are you gonna start?

A good mod would know what to do.

http://dygytalworld.ehost-services139.com/forums/images/smilies/chalk.gif

tony hipchest
07-22-2009, 12:56 AM
this is kind of a big deal so everyone might as well post everything they know about the caseoh, well in that case, i find it suspicious that there were no criminal charges filed in the case and it took an entire year for a civil suit to be filed...

:yawn:

a single thread allows for other actual steelers talk to take place w/o the clutter and keeps the multiple postings of the same PFT or TMZ articles contained in one spot.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 01:10 AM
I keep saying, the issue for me isn't people wondering whether or not she is guilty. its the way they are speaking about her.

You sound just like a Browns fan

"it's ok to bang your sister as long as you are in Pisspukez"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/dawgpound76/bigben-2.jpg

tony hipchest
07-22-2009, 01:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/dawgpound76/bigben-2.jpg

:chuckle:


vince neil is looking pretty young these days. crue is still the hottest thing in ohio. :jerkit:

Preacher
07-22-2009, 01:37 AM
You sound just like a Browns fan


Then that Browns fan has a better grip on reality.

The hypocrisy on this board would be laughable if it wasn't so sad... or do I need to post links to all the "outrage" when a Bengal's player, Raven's player, or Michael Vick was accused of something that wasn't even CLOSE to being as serious as this.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 01:46 AM
Steelers haters, Ben haters, Steelers fan haters....yep, they will all have a field day with this.

7SteelGal43
07-22-2009, 02:00 AM
even nascar drivers wouldnt bang her.

im suprised nobody has mentioned that ben was in tahoe again last weekend and she all of a sudden, files the suit on monday.

doesnt it seem like he rejected her booty call and pretended not to know her?

"hey ben, remember me? im that girl who licked that other girls juices offa your balls last year".

ben- "uh, no." :cya:

sounds like a sour grape, rejected, "i'll get you", claim to me.

O M G :toofunny::rofl::laughing::sofunny:
dammit tony.....i spit drink outta my nose readin this

tony hipchest
07-22-2009, 02:08 AM
or do I need to post links to all the "outrage" when a Bengal's player, Raven's player, or Michael Vick was accused of something that wasn't even CLOSE to being as serious as this.

actually... please do. by all means.


so is your issue just with this girl, or does it also sicken you when the likes of ray lewis, chad johnson, obama, hilary, or ted kennedy are called horrid names and being accused of everything under the sun?

plenty of people are constantly demonized on this board and nobody ever seems to take exception unless its bu..bu..bu.. (you know the rest).

chris henry DID shoot off his gat while wearing his own jersey and supply alcohol to minors.

ray lewis DID enter a plea for obstruction of justice when he and his buddies left 2 dead bodies laying in the street.

m. vick DID serve 2 years behind bars for the slaughter of dogs and participating in a gambling ring.

how are none of these instances nowhere as "CLOSE to being as serious as this" frivilous lawsuit against ben?

:confused:


dammit tony.....i spit drink outta my nose readin this

:chuckle: i about spit drink outta my nose typing it...

MACH1
07-22-2009, 02:11 AM
Where's Rae Carruth? Serving life.

X-Terminator
07-22-2009, 02:32 AM
Steelers haters, Ben haters, Steelers fan haters....yep, they will all have a field day with this.

And not one Steelers fan should give a shit.

People put too much stock in what other teams' fans have to say. Who frickin' cares???

Ravnet
07-22-2009, 03:22 AM
Don't call Ray a murderer and I won't label Ben as a chauvinistic rapist.

MasterOfPuppets
07-22-2009, 04:12 AM
Don't call Ray a murderer and I won't label Ben as a chauvinistic rapist.

when you can produce a picture of ben like this... you got a deal.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/221/raylewis1.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/raylewis1.jpg/)

but when the best you can fall back on is a mental patient with no evidence , and a history of an imaginery boyfriend / soldier ...:popcorn:

Preacher
07-22-2009, 04:30 AM
actually... please do. by all means.



chris henry DID shoot off his gat while wearing his own jersey and supply alcohol to minors.

ray lewis DID enter a plea for obstruction of justice when he and his buddies left 2 dead bodies laying in the street.

m. vick DID serve 2 years behind bars for the slaughter of dogs and participating in a gambling ring.

how are none of these instances nowhere as "CLOSE to being as serious as this" frivilous lawsuit against ben?
.

Tony.

Notice I used the word ACCUSED.

The ACCUSATION against Ben is basically, that he raped a woman. I did not say that it did or did not happen. However, long before any of the other players are actually CONVICTED, many on this board are already condemning them.

Yet, long before Ben is convicted or acquitted. . . or in THIS case, found to be responsible or not responsible in a civil suit, many here are not only claim his innocence, but castigating the woman.

Tony, think of your daughter, or your girlfriend. What if it was her making these claims. . . and without the light of court trial, your daughter (in a few years) or your girlfriend was being called a wh0re, a skank, etc., or that she could NOT have been raped, because she was too ugly.

Is this woman lying? The more I read, the more I think she is. But until ALL the evidence in presented in a court trial, or she drops the charges and admits that he didn't do it, don't you think it is just a bit overboard to say the wh0re is lying?

It sure would be if it was your daughter, or girlfriend, or if it was my wife. So why not give the same consideration here.

After it plays out, there will be plenty of time to assess her character.

MasterOfPuppets
07-22-2009, 04:38 AM
Sources connected with the case tell us a former co-worker of McNultys at Harrahs came forward with this incredible story that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man. The mans wife, were told, created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with McNulty to gain information. Were told the former co-worker has said McNulty fell in love with the fictitious soldier and began telling people she was engaged to him. When the wife stopped the correspondence, McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action. if there is any truth to this and it comes up in court... this one will get tossed out REAL quick... :popcorn:

Galax Steeler
07-22-2009, 04:39 AM
You sound just like a Browns fan

"it's ok to bang your sister as long as you are in Pisspukez"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/dawgpound76/bigben-2.jpg

Thats funny.:toofunny:

HometownGal
07-22-2009, 06:13 AM
How many of these threads are you gonna start?

A good mod would know what to do.

Excuse me???

Pardon me that we actually have lives and don't live on this board day and night. I didn't see this thread until this morning.

Texasteel
07-22-2009, 06:39 AM
Don't call Ray a murderer and I won't label Ben as a chauvinistic rapist.

So you don't think Ben did it, you just want to use it to negotiate a pardon, for Ray. Typical Ratbird fan.

Texasteel
07-22-2009, 06:44 AM
Originally Posted by Killer
How many of these threads are you gonna start?

A good mod would know what to do.


That was a pretty cheap comment Killer. I know your upset but I see no reason to turn on each other.

jcdavey08
07-22-2009, 06:45 AM
My issue isn't that she whether she is or is not lying. As I said, I seriously have my doubts about the veracity of the claims.

My issue IS the fact that she is being demonized on this board.... called horrid names, accused of being a wh0re and a profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilter, and Evidence number 1? She isn't pretty enough to be raped.

That doesn't sicken you?given the info known about her fragile state of mind, and the getting played by some guys wife via emails, she seems worthy of being ripped apart and demonized

she seems pretty crazy, and i'm not even a steelers fan...just calling it as it looks like.

now if there was no info on her, even if she was ugly i'd be more apt to believe it, cause ben likes to get drunk

CantStop85
07-22-2009, 07:17 AM
given the info known about her fragile state of mind, and the getting played by some guys wife via emails, she seems worthy of being ripped apart and demonized

she seems pretty crazy, and i'm not even a steelers fan...just calling it as it looks like.

now if there was no info on her, even if she was ugly i'd be more apt to believe it, cause ben likes to get drunk

Big Ben can do better while drunk...we have proof.

http://drunkathlete.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ben-roethlisberger-drunk-pictures2.jpg

http://drunkathlete.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ben-roethlisberger-4-drunk-pictures.jpg

OK, maybe not so much the girl on the left in the bottom picture. :chuckle:

Sorry, this thread just wasn't complete without those pictures. :flap:

mccray44
07-22-2009, 07:20 AM
Sounds an awful lot like a Dumb Jock being a Stupid ArseHole and not paying attention to his position in life and knowing better than to be smart about his actions.

Dino, who made you the "decider" on all things smart? You have no idea what Ben did or didnt do!

The_WARDen
07-22-2009, 07:42 AM
Then that Browns fan has a better grip on reality.

The hypocrisy on this board would be laughable if it wasn't so sad... or do I need to post links to all the "outrage" when a Bengal's player, Raven's player, or Michael Vick was accused of something that wasn't even CLOSE to being as serious as this.


I agree...just imagine if the person being accused was named Tom Brady. I wonder if the woman would be getting ripped and the player would be getting off the hook so easily?

Hammer67
07-22-2009, 07:58 AM
I think a lot of people have made conclusions already based on media speculation and a few statements. Kind of a shame, in this society.

I reserve my opinion until all facts come out. And they will.

SteelMember
07-22-2009, 08:01 AM
im suprised nobody has mentioned that ben was in tahoe again last weekend and she all of a sudden, files the suit on monday.

Interesting you ask... PG released this statement in an article yesterday.

According to the complaint, while Mr. Roethlisberger was invited back to Harrah's during this year's golf tournament, which took place last week, the resort "insisted" that the woman take a paid two-week leave "to accommodate her assailant."

:noidea:


http://postgazette.com/pg/09203/985492-66.stm

The_WARDen
07-22-2009, 08:03 AM
Translation: Expect Goodell to suspend Ben for 8 games...


I dont know enough of the details, but its a civil lawsuit. Its something that we obviously will look into, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday when asked about it in New York during an unrelated news conference. Ive been in touch with the Steelers about it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhO5vrw5orxRr7QrQH.yZ1k5nYcB?slug=ap-roethlisberger-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns

Hammer67
07-22-2009, 08:04 AM
I agree...just imagine if the person being accused was named Tom Brady. I wonder if the woman would be getting ripped and the player would be getting off the hook so easily?

I think some people have such an emotional interest vested in Roethlisberger that they can't fathom him doing ANYTHING wrong. So, they will have a predisposition towards him. Otherwise, their whole sports allegiance would be shaken.

We should wait and listen, taking emotion out of it.

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 08:11 AM
Gad........I was hoping to wake up this morning and find out this was all a bad dream.

I do think Ben is capable of quickies while he's out there doing his thing, but I find it hard to believe he's rape someone.

The_WARDen
07-22-2009, 08:12 AM
I think some people have such an emotional interest vested in Roethlisberger that they can't fathom him doing ANYTHING wrong. So, they will have a predisposition towards him. Otherwise, their whole sports allegiance would be shaken.

We should wait and listen, taking emotion out of it.

It kills me to think that Ben might have done something like this...he's one of the few guys in pro sports (along with Ward, Jeter, Peyton, Tiger) whom I think has class and are respectable members of society.

But nothing really surprises me in sports anymore.

Steel Head
07-22-2009, 08:12 AM
Dino, who made you the "decider" on all things smart? You have no idea what Ben did or didnt do!

I think Dino has inside info. He posted that the sex was 'unprotected' earlier

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 08:23 AM
I think Dino has inside info. He posted that the sex was 'unprotected' earlier

No, I read her account of the story.

Do the same then get back to me.

steveironcity
07-22-2009, 08:30 AM
Sorry if this has been brought up, but in an earlier post, This woman claims that any visits she made to a hospital were because of the "attack" Wouldnt hospital personel be required to report a potental rape? This case does not hold water. Im suprised a lawyer even took it, unless they expected Ben to give this woman money to keep quiet.

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 08:32 AM
Sorry if this has been brought up, but in an earlier post, This woman claims that any visits she made to a hospital were because of the "attack" Wouldnt hospital personel be required to report a potental rape? This case does not hold water. Im suprised a lawyer even took it, unless they expected Ben to give this woman money to keep quiet.

She says the mental health treatment she received from hospital visits long after the alleged attack are for treatment in regards to the Ben incident, not related to the fantasy relationship that her co-workers are lying about.

steveironcity
07-22-2009, 08:34 AM
She says the mental health treatment she received from hospital visits long after the alleged attack are for treatment in regards to the Ben incident, not related to the fantasy relationship that her co-workers are lying about.

How do you know her co-workers are lying?

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 08:38 AM
How do you know her co-workers are lying?

Sigh...

I don't know that, that's what she says in her filing.

I'm just repeating what I read.

Like that they had unprotected sex, she says he pulled out and that during the actual rape she told him "I don't have protection" and then he allegedly said, "don't worry I'll pull out". which he did, per the paperwork she filed.

Has Ben denied having sex with this girl?

Or, is Ben saying that he did have sex but it was consensual?

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 08:39 AM
This woman believes that up to 8 people at Harrahs ignored her claim, and actually helped cover up this situation by making false claims about her sex life and spreading those claims through the Casino to higher ups in the company. She claims they did that so no one would believe her claim of sexual assualt.

steveironcity
07-22-2009, 08:41 AM
Sigh...

I don't know that, that's what she says in her filing.

I'm just repeating what I read.

Like that they had unprotected sex, she says he pulled out and that during the actual rape she told him "I don't have protection" and then he allegedly said, "don't worry I'll pull out". which he did, per the paperwork she filed.

Has Ben denied having sex with this girl?

Or, is Ben saying that he did have sex but it was consensual?

I dont know, I just thought you might know somwthing i didnt

stlrz fan
07-22-2009, 08:44 AM
The timing of this is a shame. This is the best time of the year with camp approaching and getting excited about a new season. I know that this story getting stuffed down our throats is inevitable but let's just hope that it doesn't set the tone for the season.

SteelLloyd95
07-22-2009, 08:45 AM
I AM PRETTY SURE BEN IS ADMITTED THAT THEY HAD A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP BUT THAT IT WAS CONSENSUAL. Read it in one of the reports.

steveironcity
07-22-2009, 08:45 AM
This woman believes that up to 8 people at Harrahs ignored her claim, and actually helped cover up this situation by making false claims about her sex life and spreading those claims through the Casino to higher ups in the company. She claims they did that so no one would believe her claim of sexual assualt.

Thats something else I dont get. If someone commits a horrible crime against you, you dont go to your co-workers with your "claim", you go to the police. Now with no physical evidence, its her word against his, and from the looks of it, there are several people who can testify that this woman is nutty.

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 08:48 AM
I hope she's a NUT

I still think sleeping with the staff is a bad idea every time.

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 08:51 AM
The timing of this is a shame. This is the best time of the year with camp approaching and getting excited about a new season. I know that this story getting stuffed down our throats is inevitable but let's just hope that it doesn't set the tone for the season.

Agreed - the timing of this really sucks with TC around the corner. This is a potential distraction a team that will try to be defending a title doesn't need.

Steel Head
07-22-2009, 08:51 AM
I dont know, I just thought you might know somwthing i didnt

no, he read the plaintiff's account and then posts like it is fact

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 08:54 AM
Translation: Expect Goodell to suspend Ben for 8 games...

I dont know enough of the details, but its a civil lawsuit. Its something that we obviously will look into, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday when asked about it in New York during an unrelated news conference. Ive been in touch with the Steelers about it.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhO5vrw5orxRr7QrQH.yZ1k5nYcB?slug=ap-roethlisberger-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns

Yep, don't forget awarding the Cheats* with 2-3 additional draft picks as well.

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 08:56 AM
In the end, it's still his word against hers. The other 8 were not in the room with them.

Now, I"ve stayed in Harrah's in Lake Tahoe many years a go. And I've been in casinos in Atlantic City. I'm picturing the staff with walkie talkie or some type of communiction devices with them all the time. Do the hotel staff in these big casino hotels have them, too?

And secondly, Ben seems to have the reputation of being somewhat of a jerk. Whether he's earned it or not, it's out there. I just don't see as many as 8 people covering up a crime for him. Someone would speak up.

X-Terminator
07-22-2009, 09:35 AM
But nothing really surprises me in sports anymore.

This is where I am right now.

People need to quit with the athlete/celebrity worship, seriously.

Steel Head
07-22-2009, 09:40 AM
Now, I"ve stayed in Harrah's in Lake Tahoe many years a go. And I've been in casinos in Atlantic City. I'm picturing the staff with walkie talkie or some type of communiction devices with them all the time. Do the hotel staff in these big casino hotels have them, too?

Yeah, that's the part that sounds like BS to me

She says she tried to call somebody and tried to call the engineers to fix the tv but nobody answered.

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 09:46 AM
Yeah, that's the part that sounds like BS to me

She says she tried to call somebody and tried to call the engineers to fix the tv but nobody answered.

I agree with this, that seems really shady. What "engineer" is going to ignore a page for a TV fix on the High Profile Client floor. Really? Plus, she had to know that it would be wrong for her to even be seen leaving a High Profile Client's room. Apparently Barkley was on the same floor. She had to know, being in the position she was in, taking care of high profile athletes and celebrities that she needed to be extra careful about not doing anything that could be seen as inappropriate in the eyes of her employer.

The Lakelander
07-22-2009, 09:58 AM
I agree with this, that seems really shady. What "engineer" is going to ignore a page for a TV fix on the High Profile Client floor. Really? Plus, she had to know that it would be wrong for her to even be seen leaving a High Profile Client's room. Apparently Barkley was on the same floor. She had to know, being in the position she was in, taking care of high profile athletes and celebrities that she needed to be extra careful about not doing anything that could be seen as inappropriate in the eyes of her employer.

Great post Dino. I couldn't agree more. It seems to me that these guys would be treated extra cautiously during their stay. This is not making any sense whatsoever to me ... none of it! Ben fukced up by letting a female into his room ... he should have removed himself during the repair. Hindsight ...

:popcorn:

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 10:02 AM
We have all the exposition, but, again, how does this differ from the Bettis case a few years ago? This isn't a Kobe-type situation, I think its' much more like a Bettis-type situation, and that case was summarily dismissed.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 10:02 AM
That was a pretty cheap comment Killer. I know your upset but I see no reason to turn on each other.


Excuse me???

Pardon me that we actually have lives and don't live on this board day and night. I didn't see this thread until this morning.

ha ha! - I didn't really think it needed moved, I just wanted to rattle Mesa's chain.
Nobody ever listens to me anyway. :wave:

jcdavey08
07-22-2009, 10:06 AM
I think some people have such an emotional interest vested in Roethlisberger that they can't fathom him doing ANYTHING wrong. So, they will have a predisposition towards him. Otherwise, their whole sports allegiance would be shaken.

We should wait and listen, taking emotion out of it.that will account for some steeler fans, but for me, a charger fan, and many other fans i've seen post about this topic online, they all assume she's just another gold digger, and we're not even steeler fans or necessarily ben fans who feel like this.

knowing she waited a year, and the other shady info about her, she fits the profile of a psycho gold digger/attention hor

The Lakelander
07-22-2009, 10:09 AM
The athlete worship thing is driven, among others, by the NFL itself.

Do you think the NFL benefits from stories like Michael Vick, Steve McNair, O.J., Big Ben, etc?

NFL Network and ESPN certainly benefit from this stuff. And don't they pay big $$$ to the NFL for coverage rights?

Who knows how much $$$ has been thrown behind this woman's claims?

Who knows the source of that $$$?

Doesn't she win either way?

Ben fukced up by staying in the room while she repaired the TV. PERIOD! If he loses money over this it's his own fault.

Fortunately I'm fairly certain Ben can handle the paparazzi blitz that will surround this thing.

Gnutella
07-22-2009, 10:09 AM
Two more things that don't add up...

1. Isn't covering up a felony a crime? They call it "conspiracy," I believe. There have been zero criminal charges whatsoever. Besides, why would the other eight defendents risk their own reputations just to save Ben's?

2. If somebody checks into a mental hospital because they were raped, wouldn't the hospital be obliged to report it to authorities? If that's the case, then this story should have blown up back in October or November.

jcdavey08
07-22-2009, 10:09 AM
for example, i hate jay cutler's guts, but if this happened to him, i'd think the same way...psycho gold digger, especially given the little info we possess so far

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 10:11 AM
Important question in light of this:

These kinds of posts won't be tolerated here. Any more inappropriate comments or insults will result in warnings, bans and this topic being closed.

How is it that Steel Head is still up and running on this board?

OK, back on task: We have all the exposition, but, again, how does this differ from the Bettis case a few years ago? This isn't a Kobe-type situation, I think its' much more like a Bettis-type situation, and that case was summarily dismissed.

With Bettis, from what I can recall, there was no actaul sexual encounter.

I have not seen an actual statement from Ben as to whether or not he admits having sex with this woman, but if he did, and then turns and says it was consensual, then it is very much like the Kobe case.

Yahoo has this:

"The woman's lawsuit says she didn't file a criminal complaint because she feared Harrah's would side with Roethlisberger and she would be fired. The suit doesn't say whether the woman is still working for Harrah's."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Why-Ben-Roethlisberger-s-accuser-didn-t-file-a-c?urn=nfl,178022

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 10:16 AM
With Bettis, from what I can recall, there was no actaul sexual encounter.

I have not seen an actual statement from Ben as to whether or not he admits having sex with this woman, but if he did, and then turns and says it was consensual, then it is very much like the Kobe case.

Yahoo has this:

"The woman's lawsuit says she didn't file a criminal complaint because she feared Harrah's would side with Roethlisberger and she would be fired. The suit doesn't say whether the woman is still working for Harrah's."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Why-Ben-Roethlisberger-s-accuser-didn-t-file-a-c?urn=nfl,178022

I sincerely doubt he did. I wouldn't touch that with Ocho's dick if I was drunk, and I'm not a rich, famous Super Bowl winning QB.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 10:16 AM
Cut him now.

That's what the Santonio haters would want if this was him instead of Ben.


Roger Goodell 'will look into' rape accusation against Ben Roethlisberger

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell acknowledged that the league will delve into the suit that alleges Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger raped a woman in 2008.

http://content.usatoday.com/topics/post/People/Sports+Coaches,+Team+Owners,+Execs,+Officials/NFL/Roger+Goodell/68495047.blog/1

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 10:19 AM
From what I read, the woman is still working at Harrah's because one article stated that she was supposedly given time off last week while Ben was in town, "to accomadate her assultant."

Now, as a woman, if I was raped at my place of employment, I'd be looking for a new job, pronto, especially if there was really a "cover up". I think there's one or two other hotel/casinos in the area (sarcasm) to apply to.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 10:25 AM
People put too much stock in what other teams' fans have to say. Who frickin' cares???

Lots of people care.

Google Results 1 - 10 of about 159,000 for ben roethlisberger assault.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 10:28 AM
i think i read somewhere that his atty said that they did have a sexual liason.

i do hope tomlin laid into him for putting himself and the team in this type of situation before TC starts.

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 10:33 AM
i think i read somewhere that his atty said that they did have a sexual liason.

i do hope tomlin laid into him for putting himself and the team in this type of situation before TC starts.

If true, there is hope for every previously fat or 4-or-lower-on-a-scale-of-one-to-ten chick out there who was hoping to hook up with Ben. This chick fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down...I've seen better heads on a zit, and I think I'm being kind here. If he raped her, he needs to hang for it...but if he DID bang this chick consensually, he still needs punished heavily for exhibiting EXTREMELY poor taste.

Yick.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 10:34 AM
ESPN Breaks Its Silence On Ben Roethlisberger

Fantasy Alert: Big Ben is listed as probable for Week 1 (knee, sexual assault lawsuit.) Adjust your rosters accordingly. [ESPN]

http://deadspin.com/5319620/espn-breaks-its-silence-on-ben-roethlisberger

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 10:36 AM
If true, there is hope for every previously fat or 4-or-lower-on-a-scale-of-one-to-ten chick out there who was hoping to hook up with Ben. This chick fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down...I've seen better heads on a zit, and I think I'm being kind here. If he raped her, he needs to hang for it...but if he DID bang this chick consensually, he still needs punished heavily for exhibiting EXTREMELY poor taste.

Yick.
i would have to agree with you on that.. he could have done much better unless he was so freaking drunk he couldnt see straight. heck my 65 yr old mother looks better than that chick.

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 10:40 AM
Note to Ben: Next time, call 1-800-RENTAW HORE

CanadianSteel
07-22-2009, 10:43 AM
The pretents of het gpoing to his room sounds fishy.....My guess is they did have sex, and now she wants some bling...
The timing absolutley sucks.... hope the boys can deal withy this distraction..

CanadianSteel
07-22-2009, 10:45 AM
The pretents of her gpoing to his room sounds fishy.....My guess is they did have sex, and now she wants some bling...
The timing absolutley sucks.... hope the boys can deal with this distraction..

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 10:46 AM
You can say that again!

(Oh, wait...you did!):flap:

The Lakelander
07-22-2009, 10:48 AM
You can say that again!

(Oh, wait...you did!):flap:

http://emoticons4u.com/happy/028.gif

stillhead
07-22-2009, 10:58 AM
appears to be total b.s. i read the suit papers and she claims to have been hospitalized due to the "trauma" of this. yet at no point in 1 years time did she ever go the police and report this alleged "assault". please. just another dirtbag looking for some quick cash.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 10:58 AM
Note to Ben: Next time, call 1-800-RENTAW HORE
next time just call your sister ben, i am sure she could hook you up with some decent looking women:chuckle:

Godfather
07-22-2009, 11:06 AM
Great post Dino. I couldn't agree more. It seems to me that these guys would be treated extra cautiously during their stay. This is not making any sense whatsoever to me ... none of it! Ben fukced up by letting a female into his room ... he should have removed himself during the repair. Hindsight ...

:popcorn:

I'm not so sure. If I were a famous athlete or actor or whatever I would never let a groupie into my hotel room or engage in a random hookup. That's just asking for a rape allegation.

But it wouldn't even cross my mind to keep hotel employees out of my room. Especially if I didn't have sex with them.

xfl2001fan
07-22-2009, 11:10 AM
I can see that I'm not the only one who believes it's a BS report. Figured I'd get that response here. Anyone else here people trying to compare this situation to Kobes? (Not even close...just don't feel like reading through 34 pages of crap to see what you've heard.)

The Lakelander
07-22-2009, 11:29 AM
I'm not so sure. If I were a famous athlete or actor or whatever I would never let a groupie into my hotel room or engage in a random hookup. That's just asking for a rape allegation.

But it wouldn't even cross my mind to keep hotel employees out of my room. Especially if I didn't have sex with them.

True.

And come to think of it, Ben may have had a fair amount of trust established with those workers since he had been staying there before. He may have even been on a first name basis with many of them.

This thing stinks so bad already and it hasn't even festered yet!

Hines4ever
07-22-2009, 11:33 AM
WTF?????
IS THIS SERIOUSLY THE SAME GIRL?????????????????

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 11:34 AM
don't feel like reading through 34 pages of crap to see what you've heard.

Well I think it should be mandatory that everyone reads through every page of crap before being allowed to post.

To review...

Give me $10,000 a month and I will guarantee any pro athlete that me and my limo will escort him around to bars or anywhere he wants, day or night, and pimp him all the clean girls he wants.

Yes - I take PayPal

Hines4ever
07-22-2009, 11:34 AM
Here is the link with the VERY different looking girl who they claim is andrea mcnaulty.

http://news.puggal.com/ben-roethlisberger-assault/

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 11:35 AM
WTF?????
IS THIS SERIOUSLY THE SAME GIRL?????????????????
Hmmmmm....now I'd hit that, methinks....especially if I'd imbibed a bit.

Still no need to take what isn't freely given, though...I walk past 50 hotter chicks than this every time i go to the mall.

KeiselPower99
07-22-2009, 11:37 AM
So which one is it thats suing him??

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 11:37 AM
Don't call Ray a murderer and I won't label Ben as a chauvinistic rapist.

Any criminal charges brought against Ben for this allegation yet? Yeah, that's what I thought. :coffee:

xfl2001fan
07-22-2009, 11:38 AM
Well I think it should be mandatory that everyone reads through every page of crap before being allowed to post.

To review...

Give me $10,000 a month and I will guarantee any pro athlete that me and my limo will escort him around to bars or anywhere he wants, day or night, and pimp him all the clean girls he wants.

Yes - I take PayPal

:doh:
LOL, sorry, my bad. I'll go back and read through the crap then.

I like your limo service option. Good stuff!

:drink: <----Vernor's Ginger Ale (don't drink alcohol)

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 11:39 AM
We've only known about this for a day & it already feels like a month.

I'm exhausted.

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 11:40 AM
Hmmmmm....now I'd hit that, methinks....especially if I'd imbibed a bit.

Still no need to take what isn't freely given, though...I walk past 50 hotter chicks than this every time i go to the mall.

I just find it hard to believe that Ben would need to lure someone into his room and force her to have sex with him. If he needed it that bad, I'm sure he could have gone down to the bar and there would have been any number of willing participants. Not that I approve of that either, I'm just sayin'..................

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 11:42 AM
We've only known about this for a day & it already feels like a month.

I'm exhausted.

It's just hard to believe we've gotten this close to training camp without anything more major than Harrison and the White House thing and bam...........the foundation crumbles. Unfrickinbelievable. :banging:

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 11:43 AM
My gut tells me that this chick will be quickly discredited and this whole thing will blow over quickly.

Ah, a Rat fan chiming in...how.............revoltingly transparent.

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 11:44 AM
Any criminal charges brought against Ben for this allegation yet? Yeah, that's what I thought. :coffee:


And as someone else pointed out, if the hotel biggees covered up the crime, isn't an accessory to the crime? We're talking big time stuff here. And no criminal charges?

steelreserve
07-22-2009, 11:52 AM
I just find it hard to believe that Ben would need to lure someone into his room and force her to have sex with him. If he needed it that bad, I'm sure he could have gone down to the bar and there would have been any number of willing participants.

Yeah, or he could've just called back the chick that was there for the booty call 20 minutes before. Or jerked off. Again, I have a hard time believing anyone with half a brain would act as flat-out stupid as the lawsuit claims.

The Lakelander
07-22-2009, 12:01 PM
Yeah, or he could've just called back the chick that was there for the booty call 20 minutes before. Or jerked off. Again, I have a hard time believing anyone with half a brain would act as flat-out stupid as the lawsuit claims.

Maybe the chick with the booty call 20 minutes before will get some bad ideas from all this .... just sayin'!

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 12:08 PM
My gut tells me that this chick will be quickly discredited and this whole thing will blow over quickly.


MY gut says if we interview Vick, it's all over.

steelreserve
07-22-2009, 12:08 PM
Maybe the chick with the booty call 20 minutes before will get some bad ideas from all this .... just sayin'!

The lesson in this is, if I was a pro athlete (or anyone famous), I would never, EVER be alone with a woman I didn't know unless there was a witness present. Because you do that enough times, and eventually you're going to draw a joker.

I think it was Albert Pujols who said something like "Even if I'm waiting for an elevator by myself and a woman gets on, I'll just wait for the next one." Pretty sad that you'd have to go to those lengths, but I guess that's what it's come to.

xfl2001fan
07-22-2009, 12:09 PM
What probaby happened was that she was fantasizing about "Big Ben" and used her BOB (battery operated boyfriend) a bit too harshly...so then went to see psychologists and such (because she's so embarrassed) and forgot the whole thing was just a fantasy anyways. Now, a year later, her (broken) fantasy has become her busted reality...and she wants compensation...all because Ben wouldn't give her the time of day.

Steel-Bryan
07-22-2009, 12:11 PM
2 days and this has more replys than "how did u find SF" and that has been there longer than i have been here, lol :hug:

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 12:15 PM
The lesson in this is, if I was a pro athlete (or anyone famous), I would never, EVER be alone with a woman I didn't know unless there was a witness present. Because you do that enough times, and eventually you're going to draw a joker.

I think it was Albert Pujols who said something like "Even if I'm waiting for an elevator by myself and a woman gets on, I'll just wait for the next one." Pretty sad that you'd have to go to those lengths, but I guess that's what it's come to.

I'm hoping for best case scenario here. This thing gets dropped becasue she's a wack job and Ben learns a valuable lesson.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 12:16 PM
I blame Florio

Final answer in Roethlisberger case could be months away

Now that a civil complaint has been filed, what happens next?

The civil complaint filed last week against Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in a Nevada court represents the first step in what could be a long, contentious, and (frankly) fascinating legal battle.

There's a chance we'll never hear anything more about the case, which likely would mean that a quiet, discreet, and confidential settlement has been reached. Given the publicity the case has generated, however, it likely will be challenging to negotiate a fast resolution, especially since any settlement could be interpreted as a partial concession of responsibility.

It appears the accuser's lawyer likely would have tried to strike a settlement without filing suit, if Roethlisberger lived in Nevada. But since the quarterback only comes to town occasionally, the best way to make the lawsuit stick there was to hold the paperwork until he was back in town for the 2009 American Century Celebrity Golf Championship, file the suit, and serve it on him.

Indeed, if Roethlisberger knew about the potential to be sued and served in Nevada, he wouldn't have attended the tournament — and possibly wouldn't have returned to Nevada until the statute of limitations had expired. And so the plaintiff would have been forced to sue Roethlisberger on his home turf, far from Nevada.

Assuming there's no quick settlement , let's consider how the case might unfold.

Typically, civil defendants have roughly a month to respond to the initial complaint. At that point, we'll likely learn whether Roethlisberger admits to having consensual sex with the plaintiff, or whether he denies any type of intimate contact with her.

Then the court will establish a trial date, along with various other deadlines; in many jurisdictions, anywhere from one to two years will pass between the filing of suit and the commencement of a trial.

Much of the legal work will be done during what's known as the "discovery" phase, which involves the exchange of documents and other information, along with depositions of key witnesses.

For cases involving high-profile defendants, settlements sometimes occur not long before the high-profile defendant is questioned under oath during a deposition. Such men and women are accustomed to being in control of every situation in which they find themselves; when being deposed, the witness has little or no control — and any attempt to try to exercise control typically makes things worse. So, in plenty of cases like this, the best chance to end the ordeal comes before the grilling begins.

Assuming there's no settlement prior to Roethlisberger's deposition, the case will proceed, and will be on track to go to trial. Surely, there will be efforts by Roethlisberger and the Harrah's employees (who undoubtedly will be represented by highly competent lawyers hired by Harrah's) to get the case thrown out, but the plaintiff's testimony will provide more than enough evidence to get the case to a civil jury.

Whether the civil jury agrees with the plaintiff is a separate issue.

But the standard of proof is much, much lower in civil cases. The plaintiff will be required to prove only that she is correct by a "preponderance of the evidence." That means she needs to tip the scales just slightly in her favor. I've previously called it a 51-49 proposition; the truth is that 50.000001-49.999999 gets the job done, too.

Though there might be some objective evidence that will corroborate or debunk the claims (the surveillance video of the plaintiff entering and exiting the hotel room in which the assault allegedly occurred could be critical), the case likely will boil down to the credibility of the witnesses, as perceived by a jury.

Telling the truth is one thing; testifying in a way that convinces jurors that the truth is being told is quite another. If, in the end, Roethlisberger can't persuade a collection of Nevada residents who likely won't be card-carrying members of Steeler Nation and who might not even be fans of football that he is telling the truth, he could end up taking a huge hit, not only to his wallet, but also to his reputation.

And, possibly, to his career.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2009-07-22/final-answer-roethlisberger-case-could-be-months-away

-----------------------------

I blame GOLF too.

The Lakelander
07-22-2009, 12:16 PM
Either way, Ben learns a valuable lesson :chuckle:

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 12:17 PM
well...at least his jersey sales will spike now with his new found "street" cred.

Seriously...I'm tired. I just wanted my Football...that's it, No face plants into windshields, no wife beating, no injuries in the off season playing volleyball at the beach, just wanted football...and what do I get...some crazy shiiit like this to mess it all up.

Texasteel
07-22-2009, 12:55 PM
The lesson in this is, if I was a pro athlete (or anyone famous), I would never, EVER be alone with a woman I didn't know unless there was a witness present. Because you do that enough times, and eventually you're going to draw a joker.

I think it was Albert Pujols who said something like "Even if I'm waiting for an elevator by myself and a woman gets on, I'll just wait for the next one." Pretty sad that you'd have to go to those lengths, but I guess that's what it's come to.

It not just famous people. Seldom, but every once and a while my job will take me inside someones home. If a lady is there alone, I will NOT go inside. It's just to easy to have this sort of thing happen.

vasteeler
07-22-2009, 01:32 PM
any body else heard "rapistburger" yet:rolleyes:

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 01:34 PM
any body else heard "rapistburger" yet:rolleyes:

Even if he's exonerated, this will follow him the rest of his life. :banging:

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 01:40 PM
Even if he's exonerated, this will follow him the rest of his life. :banging:
just like riding the motorcycle without a helmet

steelreserve
07-22-2009, 01:43 PM
Even if he's exonerated, this will follow him the rest of his life. :banging:

Hey, what about "innocent until proven guilty?"


.. oh, wait. We forgot about that decades ago. :sofunny:

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 01:47 PM
Ok, step back and look at this whole thing for a minute.

Are we talking about the same player that was warned by the NFL not to put "PFJ" on his shoes? (Pray For Jesus).

Can someone change that much?

http://www.uniformviolation.com/ViolationDetails-NFL.php?vid=34

MasterOfPuppets
07-22-2009, 01:51 PM
for me , anybody who only goes after someone "wallet" as the only form of retribution in a case where they have done physical or severe mental harm to you is full of shit. i mean is taking some, what would be chump change from ben really gonna make up for this if it actually did happen ? will looking at your bank book make everything better ?
will justice be served, now that you can buy a new house or car, or take an extravagant vacation ? i mean where not talking about a sexual harrassment suit here ... :doh:

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 01:52 PM
Ok, step back and look at this whole thing for a minute.

Are we talking about the same player that was warned by the NFL not to put "PFJ" on his shoes? (Play For Jesus).

Can someone change that much?

http://www.uniformviolation.com/ViolationDetails-NFL.php?vid=34
fame and money change people. and he got both..

i am not saying that he changed bc i dont know ... but

BlastFurnace
07-22-2009, 01:52 PM
Ok, step back and look at this whole thing for a minute.

Are we talking about the same player that was warned by the NFL not to put "PFJ" on his shoes? (Play For Jesus).

Can someone change that much?

http://www.uniformviolation.com/ViolationDetails-NFL.php?vid=34

Good question. I've seen people I really admired be changed by fame and fortune. I guess we'll all find out in due time what really happened.

KeiselPower99
07-22-2009, 01:57 PM
Maybe Ben told her he would tip her for fixing the tv and never did. So she added interest and made up a story to go along with it. Also with him losing his mom I dont see him being this kind of person towards women.

SteelMember
07-22-2009, 01:58 PM
Ben fukced up by staying in the room while she repaired the TV. PERIOD! If he loses money over this it's his own fault.

Did she fix the TV? I thought this was a hardware issue.

and the girl, either one that is pictured, must have had pretty big boobs to get THAT autograph.

http://jeffpicard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rim-shot-johnny-utah.thumbnail.jpg

:couch:

I know, I know, but sometimes I just can't help myself.

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 02:03 PM
any body else heard "rapistburger" yet:rolleyes:

No, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I stumble across something where some mongoloid retard has written it. :coffee:

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 02:06 PM
Did she fix the TV? I thought this was a hardware issue.

Any proof she was actually even in the room at all besides just her say-so? Didn't think so.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 02:15 PM
any body else heard "rapistburger" yet:rolleyes:

Only on a Browns board...


Rapelisberger!? That's even better than Toothlessberger after the motorcycle wreck!

OneForTheToe
07-22-2009, 02:15 PM
Just a couple more thoughts. Even though I don't agree with many of the comments on this thread regarding the relative attractiveness of Ben and the alleged victim, and how that is somehow determinate of innocence, there are a lot of holes in her story. The lack of a criminal investigation, if one is not forthcoming, is good news for Ben.

It seems to me that in a way Ben should be the secondary target - at least from her attorneys point of view. First law of plaintiff's work is go after the deepest pockets. Potentially, the deepest pockets here are not Ben's, but Harrahs'. I haven't read the complaint in full, but I assume she is suing Harrahs as well, since their employees would be agents of the company. If she is not suing Harrahs, that would be very interesting and leave Ben potentially the deepest pocket. If Ben is the top of the food chain that is bad because there are no friends among co defendants.


Ben's biggest concern might be could be the actions of the named Harrahs' employees. It is possible that they could have tried to cover up this incident, even if Ben did nothing wrong (similar in nature to how some former presidents get into trouble for trying to cover up an incident that wasn't a crime to begin with, but the crime becomes the cover up).. Hopefully, Harrahs did due diligence in investigating (or reporting) her claim, when they found out about it and concluded on the facts that it was untrue.

mmalone
07-22-2009, 02:16 PM
Any proof she was actually even in the room at all besides just her say-so? Didn't think so.

Civil Suit PDF File....

http://www.rgj.com/assets/pdf/J7138957721.PDF


if its already here, here it is again....

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 02:20 PM
Civil Suit PDF File....

http://www.rgj.com/assets/pdf/J7138957721.PDF


if its already here, here it is again....

Thanks, but like I said, any PROOF besides just HER say-so? All that proves is that she had 200 bucks she was willing to fork over to file a civil complaint.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 02:34 PM
i found this post off my jets board.. the highlighted part i thought was funny. and thought we could use a laugh

Not withstanding the beliefs that Roethlisberger is an ugly mofo with a supposedly douche-like personality, he is an NFL QB with a mountain of dough. Ergo, he should not be nailiing pig faced hotel workers.

However, having said that, if he didn't bruise or injure her during the supposed incident and then she went and showered afterwards there would be nothing to show the cops for a rape investigation.

Sounds like she's just bitter that he nailed her, but thought she was too ugly to introduce to his friends. Sort of like the joke about ugly chicks and mopeds..."riding both can be fun, but you don't want anyone to know you do either."

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 02:37 PM
Not withstanding the beliefs that Roethlisberger is an ugly mofo with a supposedly douche-like personality, he is an NFL QB with a mountain of dough. Ergo, he should not be nailiing pig faced hotel workers.

And Godsend hates kids too! :chuckle:

tony hipchest
07-22-2009, 02:42 PM
Any proof she was actually even in the room at all besides just her say-so? Didn't think so.yeah, im thinking the hallway video surveilance from a year ago has already been erased.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 02:45 PM
And Godsend hates kids too! :chuckle:
unless they have big boobs..lol:wink02:

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 02:46 PM
yeah, im thinking the hallway video surveilance from a year ago has already been erased.

Of course it's been erased! They are all conspiring against her! :willy:

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 02:49 PM
Of course it's been erased! They are all conspiring against her! :willy:
maybe in her crazy mind. and by the way, i didnt like being kicked in the butt, in that other thread..lol:chuckle:

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 02:50 PM
maybe in her crazy mind. and by the way, i didnt like being kicked in the butt, in that other thread..lol:chuckle:

I did it gently..............:chuckle:

The_WARDen
07-22-2009, 02:52 PM
Ok, step back and look at this whole thing for a minute.

Are we talking about the same player that was warned by the NFL not to put "PFJ" on his shoes? (Pray For Jesus).

Can someone change that much?

http://www.uniformviolation.com/ViolationDetails-NFL.php?vid=34

Just because someone puts PFJ on their shoes does not make them a good person.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 02:54 PM
I did it gently..............:chuckle:
well then i guess its ok..lol :wink02:

Gnutella
07-22-2009, 03:01 PM
Personally, I think Ben has indefinitely revoked his right to preach the Word of God to anybody.

Godfather
07-22-2009, 03:04 PM
yeah, im thinking the hallway video surveilance from a year ago has already been erased.

One thing that crossed my mind is that's why she waited just over a year. Maybe Harrah's destroys the security tapes after one year. Someone who works there would know that.

Bubby Blister
07-22-2009, 03:07 PM
Why do people always target stars on championship teams for this kind of stuff? Kobe Bryant had quick explorative sex with a girl and after he finished told her not to call. She got pissed then saw dollar signs.

Ben had the same thing happen. Andrea McNulty came into the room hoping to start a relationship, climb him, then reap the benefits of being the bride of Big Ben. She got used as a slam bam thank you mam and did'nt like it. It took a few months to realize this. She is a liar! I hope he countersues her.

Big Ben is only guilty of using his Sport Star Power to get in a girls pants.

What did we learn about Big Ben?

He is a player both on and off the field!

Gnutella
07-22-2009, 03:15 PM
Word is out that authorities in Nevada will not begin a criminal investigation unless either the plaintiff files a criminal complaint, or a witness steps forward.

SteelCityMan786
07-22-2009, 03:15 PM
This is where I am right now.

People need to quit with the athlete/celebrity worship, seriously.

People tend to do it a little bit too much. :drink:

This woman believes that up to 8 people at Harrahs ignored her claim, and actually helped cover up this situation by making false claims about her sex life and spreading those claims through the Casino to higher ups in the company. She claims they did that so no one would believe her claim of sexual assualt.

She needs to realize that if you wait to file the suit 1 year after the incident, people are going to be skeptical

I AM PRETTY SURE BEN IS ADMITTED THAT THEY HAD A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP BUT THAT IT WAS CONSENSUAL. Read it in one of the reports.

If it was indeed consensual, she has no case and will lose. I don't know if she heard about how the words "Consensual" and "Sexual Assault" have two different definitions.

And not one Steelers fan should give a shit.

People put too much stock in what other teams' fans have to say. Who frickin' cares???

Not all know enough about the other :thumbsup:

Don't call Ray a murderer and I won't label Ben as a chauvinistic rapist.

It's a civil suit. Plus not to mention the fact this incident's report is full of BULLCRAP. Ben isn't chauvinistic.

Im gonna have to agree with preacher on this one. She is a skank a ho & whatever else she has been called. We really do not know what went on. Lets wait until we have real facts not shiat from TMZ or PFT... I beleive Ben is innocent, but she might have more "problems" than we know about.

Post-Gazette had the complaint posted on it's website to the best of my knowledge.

What gets me about this McNutty female is her theory that eight people were willing to enter into a arrangement to protect Ben because he is a "celebrity".

This is sheer lunacy.

I'll grant you that Ben is a minor celebrity but its not like he has the status of someone like Michale Jackson. Outside of Pittsburgh or outside of an NFL game, 50,000 people are not going to show up to see him.

From the resorts point of view Ben is not that big of a deal since he is just one of many pro athletes that show up for a golf tournament once a year.

Covering up a felony is a crime and why would these people risk conspiracy charges for Big Ben? Why would they risk their freedom, their careers, and their families future? Why would the corporation risk a multimillion judgment for the sake of one athlete who comes to their golf tournament?

Doesn't seem to add up does it?

This McNutty skank ho is a lying loon who only wants money. She is hoping for an out of court settlement.

I laugh at that to. There is something fishy to accusing 9 people in one lawsuit.

Phew!

http://jeffreyricker.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/bullshit.jpg

I knew something smelled funny

1 st pic Natile gulbis with Ben on and off relationship
2nd pic Missy peregrym Bens steady GF
3rd the accuser lol

Missy actually is pretty good lookin to. Should've kept her.

Don't ever bet against Big Ben.

Besides, he can afford a better lawyer.

Indeed he can, and his name should be cleared.

Btw: ESPN Radio 1250 reported that the authorities knew nothing of this incident at this time a year ago.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 03:19 PM
Deputy: No plans to investigate Roethlisberger

RENO, Nev. (AP)—Law enforcement officials in Nevada have no intention of opening a criminal investigation into allegations Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger(notes) raped a woman at a Lake Tahoe hotel-casino a year ago, the sheriff’s department said Wednesday.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Deputy Teresa Duffy said the accuser would have to file a criminal complaint to trigger an investigation into the incident the woman says occurred during a celebrity golf tournament last July while she was working as an executive casino host at Harrah’s Lake Tahoe.

“The victim is the only one who can do that,” Duffy told The Associated Press. “Unless there was a third party that actually witnessed the incident, which according to the civil case, was not the case here,” she said.

The woman, a native of Canada who had worked at Harrah’s since 2003, never went to the authorities with her story, and it’s unclear why she decided to file the lawsuit seeking hundreds of thousands of dollars a full year later.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-roethlisberger-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
07-22-2009, 03:22 PM
I really hope that this lady gets locked up if she is lying about this?
Same goes with Ben... If he did it... he should pay the consequences...

BUT... If this chick is just lookin for the money I really hope she gets busted and made an example of

SteelMember
07-22-2009, 03:35 PM
Just because someone puts PFJ on their shoes does not make them a good person.

:huh:

The Peoples Front of Judea?

http://stbenedict.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/pfj.jpg

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 03:37 PM
its those women that claim rape for a payday that make it hard for those that actually did get raped.

OneForTheToe
07-22-2009, 03:42 PM
I really hope that this lady gets locked up if she is lying about this?
Same goes with Ben... If he did it... he should pay the consequences...

BUT... If this chick is just lookin for the money I really hope she gets busted and made an example of

Well, it is unlikely she would face criminal charges herself as long as this remains a civil complaint. If she would lie under oath in a deposition that might do it. However, if Ben admits to having sex with her it becomes even more unlikely that she would face criminal charges for making up the rape allegation, since perjury charges are very difficult to prove, especially in an he said /she said situation. She could face a civil action from Ben for libel/slander, however.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 03:59 PM
I really hope that after Ben gets cleared of all charges, I personally think that the case will get thrown out, that Ben counter sues for defamation of character. Take her for all she's got and cause her to live in a cardboard box underneath a bridge.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 04:08 PM
you know just because the sheriff's dept isnt investigating ben doesnt mean her lawyers wont hire private investigators to,

OneForTheToe
07-22-2009, 04:15 PM
you know just because the sheriff's dept isnt investigating ben doesnt mean her lawyers wont hire private investigators to,

I'm sure they will. Still, PIs don't have the power of the state behind them. Nothing beats a criminal investigation/prosecution to make a civil case for you. The lack thereof is surely a detriment to the plaintiff in this case.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 04:17 PM
I'm sure they will. Still, PIs don't have the power of the state behind them. Nothing beats a criminal investigation/prosecution to make a civil case for you. The lack thereof is surely a detriment to the plaintiff in this case.
i hope you are right. i was going on what my sister told me. she works for a bunch of lawyers.

scsteeler
07-22-2009, 04:24 PM
Yes these stars are targeted and Ben has it better than Kobe because ESPN ran this to death about him and the word for Big Ben is they are not talking about it until they know all the facts.

I know Kobe and others wish ESPN would have done the same thing for them. After everything Kobe was found not guilty but it was never widely publicized and in the end the same thing should be said about Ben.

Gnutella
07-22-2009, 04:24 PM
Second post down: somebody picks apart (http://maximumgrilledsteelers.com/index.php?topic=17715.60) the lawsuit.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 04:39 PM
I was hoping the "mandated reporter" angle would clear Ben. However, here is the law in Nevada concerning victims that a mandated reporter must inform for:

A vulnerable person is a person who is 18 years of age or older who either
suffers from physical or mental incapacitation or has one or more physical
or mental limitations that restrict him/her from performing normal daily
activities. http://www.rainn.org/pdf-files-and-other-documents/Public-Policy/Legal-resources/08Nevada(Elderly).pdf (http://www.rainn.org/pdf-files-and-other-documents/Public-Policy/Legal-resources/08Nevada%28Elderly%29.pdf)


So it is not as clear cut. Mental incapacitation is a BROAD category. Mental limitation that restriect normal daily activity doesn't work, because she was able to hold down a job, even afterward, and that is usually a big aspect.

HOWEVER, if she wanted to file a criminal complaint, the notes of those counseling sessions would help her tremendously. It would ALSO help her establish trauma and a bunch of other things... so I think either they come out and are very damning to Ben, or they don't come out and she begins to look very suspicious.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 04:41 PM
Why would the hotel-casino invite Ben Roethliisberger back if the year before he sexually assaulted one of their employees?

"Hey Ben, I know last year you raped one of our employees, but hey buddy...come on back for the weekend!'

Yeah...great PR right there.

This woman is a loon. She imagined a relationship in which she was engaged to a married Marine. She could have just as easily imagined a sexual assault by Ben Roethlisberger.

And if this were Tom Brady, I would be saying the exact same thing.

I don't recall Ben's lawyer saying that him and this woman has a sexual relationship. I do know that he said that Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone, especially her.

She is going to go through hell and back with the suit. While in a criminal hearing they cannot delve into the sexual past of the accuser, in a civil suit everything is fair game.

Also any doctor, medical or mental, is to report to the police suspicion of sexual assault. So if she was seeing a shrink due to this, he would be in biiiig trouble for not reporting this to the police.

Also, we will find out if the hotel-casino gave her two weeks leave for the golf tournament or if she requested it...or if she was even working there at the time.

All this will come out in the hearings.

steelreserve
07-22-2009, 04:50 PM
This woman is a loon. She imagined a relationship in which she was engaged to a married Marine. She could have just as easily imagined a sexual assault by Ben Roethlisberger.

And if this were Tom Brady, I would be saying the exact same thing.

No, you'd be saying "This MAN is a loon."


Get it? Gay jokes, lol.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 04:54 PM
No, you'd be saying &quot;This MAN is a loon.&quot;


Get it? Gay jokes, lol.

lol.. that is wrong.. brady should be treated like everyone else.. fairy.. i mean fairly..lol

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 04:54 PM
HOWEVER, if she wanted to file a criminal complaint, the notes of those counseling sessions would help her tremendously. It would ALSO help her establish trauma and a bunch of other things....

Or maybe she hasn't filed a criminal complaint simply because her entire story is an absolute crock to begin with and by doing so, she'd then be liable to criminal penalties herself for making a false statement to law enforcement. The cops are a little less forgiving about having their time wasted on frivolous BS than the court system is, for whatever reason. Occam's Razor.

FacemeIke
07-22-2009, 04:58 PM
I'm a little late to this thread and made it through about half the pages, so forgive me if someone already brought this up, but here is my $.02.

I understand the argument that when a woman has been raped she may wait months or even years before she comes forward with the allegations. This is a valid argument. What doesn't add up in this particular case though is that according to the complaint she told basically everyone she knew at Harrah's about the alleged assualt but never did she once contact the police about it? Does that make any sense at all? She supposedly immediately spoke to the head of security about what happened and assumed that he was going to contact the appropriate authorities and conduct an investigation? That doesn't pass the common sense test at all. If you've been raped and you have enough courage to tell your superiors about what happened then you also have enough courage to contact the police.

I think her whole story is just to cover up the fact that she has no evidence that Ben assaulted her. The reason she doesn't have this evidence is because its a false claim. Just my opinion thus far.

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 05:11 PM
Woah! Wait a second here!

How is this: Originally Posted by revefsreleets View Post
Important question in light of this:

These kinds of posts won't be tolerated here. Any more inappropriate comments or insults will result in warnings, bans and this topic being closed.

How is it that Steel Head is still up and running on this board?

OK, back on task: We have all the exposition, but, again, how does this differ from the Bettis case a few years ago? This isn't a Kobe-type situation, I think its' much more like a Bettis-type situation, and that case was summarily dismissed.


This?

Last edited by fansince'76; Today at 10:11 AM. Reason: Inappropriate comment.

Where is the "inappropriate comment".

Unless Steel Head isn't Verbal Kent, but really Kaiser Sosa, something is rotten here...all this dude does is flame bait, but MY post is redacted for calling attention to that FACT?

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 05:19 PM
Woah! Wait a second here!

How is this: Originally Posted by revefsreleets View Post
Important question in light of this:

These kinds of posts won't be tolerated here. Any more inappropriate comments or insults will result in warnings, bans and this topic being closed.

How is it that Steel Head is still up and running on this board?

OK, back on task: We have all the exposition, but, again, how does this differ from the Bettis case a few years ago? This isn't a Kobe-type situation, I think its' much more like a Bettis-type situation, and that case was summarily dismissed.


This?

Last edited by fansince'76; Today at 10:11 AM. Reason: Inappropriate comment.

Where is the "inappropriate comment".

Unless Steel Head isn't Verbal Kent, but really Kaiser Sosa, something is rotten here...all this dude does is flame bait, but MY post is redacted for calling attention to that FACT?


I highlighted what I felt was inappropriate above in red and I did it largely in light of this:

alright dude, i want to call a truce with you

It's no secret that the two of you don't like each other, but he is at least trying to meet you halfway here. So c'mon revs, please quit trying to bait the guy.

devilsdancefloor
07-22-2009, 05:21 PM
wake me when its over....

Dino 6 Rings
07-22-2009, 05:34 PM
wake me when its over....

I'm with you at this point. Wake me for Kickoff of the first preseason game.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 05:39 PM
wake me when its over....

you could be sleeping for a long time if he dont settle, it could be a year or more in the courts. lol

revefsreleets
07-22-2009, 05:41 PM
I highlighted what I felt was inappropriate above in red and I did it largely in light of this:



It's no secret that the two of you don't like each other, but he is at least trying to meet you halfway here. So c'mon revs, please quit trying to bait the guy.

That lasted exactly one post. I'm not trying to bait HIM, I'm trying to understand why this guy is getting away with what he's getting away with.

If so, and MUCH MORE importantly, am I allowed to play by his rules, then?

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 06:01 PM
That lasted exactly one post. I'm not trying to bait HIM, I'm trying to understand why this guy is getting away with what he's getting away with.

If so, and MUCH MORE importantly, am I allowed to play by his rules, then?

Sent you a PM.

steelreserve
07-22-2009, 06:21 PM
That lasted exactly one post. I'm not trying to bait HIM, I'm trying to understand why this guy is getting away with what he's getting away with.

Because of the Tuck Rule, duh.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 06:32 PM
Or maybe she hasn't filed a criminal complaint simply because her entire story is an absolute crock to begin with and by doing so, she'd then be liable to criminal penalties herself for making a false statement to law enforcement. The cops are a little less forgiving about having their time wasted on frivolous BS than the court system is, for whatever reason. Occam's Razor.

True... but my comment was in the context of why a mandated reporter would not file a report here. My hope was that there WAS a mandated reporter issue. What I found is that there probably isn't (unless there is precedent in Nevada that all rape victims are instantly understood as mentally incapacitated).

Based on that, I said what I said. The fact she didn't doesn't surprise me as most rapes are not reported. But as I said before, if she wants to prove this case, she is going to have to show that it wasn't made up a year later. The mental health records will prove that. If they aren't at least released to the court (and then sealed by the court), it will go a LONG way IMO of exonerating Ben.

MasterOfPuppets
07-22-2009, 06:37 PM
ok i just thought of this...if ben's tv realy wasn't broke .... how did he know it would be her that showed up to fix a not broken tv ? i mean had she gotten in touch with one of the people she supposedly tried to contact, then there would have been no need for her to go there.

Steelercrazy
07-22-2009, 06:46 PM
she looks crazy!!

Steelercrazy
07-22-2009, 06:48 PM
Can you imagine the posters/signs being brought to the games? Especially by Browns and Ravens fans. Poor Ben................................

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 07:00 PM
Can you imagine the posters/signs being brought to the games? Especially by Browns and Ravens fans. Poor Ben................................

IMHO, as long as the other teams in the division have:

Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs - Ravens

Chris Henry, Cedric Benson, Tank Johnson, Frostee Rucker - Bengals

Donte Stallworth - Browns

on their rosters, they have no room to talk about questionable character of anyone on the Steelers.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 07:00 PM
Can you imagine the posters/signs being brought to the games? Especially by Browns and Ravens fans. Poor Ben................................

until it is proven either way, I wouldn't assume yet.

And regardless, the idiot put himself in this position. . . unless she was never even in his room... but so far, it seems she was.

MasterOfPuppets
07-22-2009, 07:07 PM
until it is proven either way, I wouldn't assume yet.

And regardless, the idiot put himself in this position. . . unless she was never even in his room... but so far, it seems she was. why ? because she said she was ?

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 07:08 PM
until it is proven either way, I wouldn't assume yet.

And regardless, the idiot put himself in this position. . . unless she was never even in his room... but so far, it seems she was.

Who's to say she wasn't in the room for anything other than housekeeping while Ben was out of the room...much less in the room at all.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 07:10 PM
the idiot put himself in this position. . . .

What a steaming pantload.

There still is no official word that he banged her at all..... the only statement the attorney has made was the first one... now you're calling Ben an idiot AND his lawyer a liar?

Preacher
07-22-2009, 07:22 PM
why ? because she said she was ?

Who's to say she wasn't in the room for anything other than housekeeping while Ben was out of the room...much less in the room at all.

What a steaming pantload.

There still is no official word that he banged her at all..... the only statement the attorney has made was the first one... now you're calling Ben an idiot AND his lawyer a liar?


:rolleyes:

You all need a lesson in reading comprehension. Let's try this again.

And regardless, the idiot put himself in this position. . . unless she was never even in his room... but so far, it seems she was.

See the subjunctive DEPENDENT CLAUSE here? It is a POSSIBLE NEGATION OF THE PREVIOUS INDEPENDENT CLAUSE, which means that "UNLESS SHE WAS NEVER EVEN IN HIS ROOM" is connected to the previous phrase only.

Now, I follow that up with BUT... "SO FAR IT SEEMS" Which is another SUBJUNCTIVE... I am not stating A FACT... only that it SEEMS that way right now . . . PRECISELY because she has said it, and Ben has NOT YET said anything, hence the phrase, SO FAR IT SEEMS.

Please people, read the ENTIRE POST.

Ya'll are getting as bad as politicians picking out the one part of the sentence you want and then going after it, instead of taking the whole post IN CONTEXT.

So... RIGHT NOW it SEEMS that Ben is an IDIOT for putting himself in this situation. Reading comprehension is a good thing.

SteelCityKing
07-22-2009, 07:23 PM
i've been getting text messages all day saying, "i hope you don't pick RAPISTBerger for Fantasy Football this year."

RAPISTBerger!? REALLY!? funny...i don't find that remotely funny. infact, i find it rather tacky and stupid.

whatever happened with this situation is either blown out of proportion or is going to be water under the bridge by kick off. as soon as i heard about these accusations, i started singing...

"...now i ain't sayin' she a gold digger...but she ain't messin' wit no broke-broke..."

and i've been singing it all day. i hate myself sometimes for doing that. haha!

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 07:34 PM
Ya'll are getting as bad as politicians.

Now you're calling us all liars?

Oh I know Dad, it's time for Ben to find a nice Catholic girl, marry her ,have kids and stay home every night and drink milkshakes.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 07:39 PM
Now you're calling us all liars?

Oh I know Dad, it's time for Ben to find a nice Catholic girl, marry her ,have kids and stay home every night and drink milkshakes.


Sigh.

Context. People. Context.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 07:41 PM
Now you're calling us all liars?

Oh I know Dad, it's time for Ben to find a nice Catholic girl, marry her ,have kids and stay home every night and drink milkshakes.
well if he had done that, then he probably wouldnt be in this mess:wink02:

Preacher
07-22-2009, 07:44 PM
well if he had done that, then he probably wouldnt be in this mess:wink02:

:chuckle:

too true. Then again, that didn't stop Kobe Bryant.

Shoes
07-22-2009, 07:47 PM
Well, this thread sure got everyone's mind off of Ben getting fat :chuckle:

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 07:48 PM
:chuckle:

too true. Then again, that didn't stop Kobe Bryant.
you do have a point there preacher, but wasnt kobe there for rehab, i mean ben was there for a golf tournement, in which case you should bring your woman, so you dont get into any trouble..

kobe's wife got a nice diamond ring out of it..lol:chuckle:

SteelCityKing
07-22-2009, 07:49 PM
Well, this thread sure got everyone's mind off of Ben getting fat :chuckle:

speaking of that...the only reason i think he looks fat is beacuse he's not rocking the goatee. if he grows it back, maybe it'll slim his face down! haha!

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 07:52 PM
i dont think the goatee has anything to do with it.. the boy looks like he has put some junk in the trunk.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 07:54 PM
you do have a point there preacher, but wasnt kobe there for rehab, i mean ben was there for a golf tournement, in which case you should bring your woman, so you dont get into any trouble..

kobe's wife got a nice diamond ring out of it..lol:chuckle:

:chuckle:

Actually, this entire thing is precisely why I do not allow women in my office to counsel with the door closed, why I don't go to conferences by myself, and why I don't travel in cars with just women.

Heck, I won't even usually have a meal at a restaurant with a woman unless its my wife, or my wife is with me.

Those are all things I was taught as I was preparing for the ministry, LONG BEFORE I was ever married.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 08:00 PM
:chuckle:

Actually, this entire thing is precisely why I do not allow women in my office to counsel with the door closed, why I don't go to conferences by myself, and why I don't travel in cars with just women.

Heck, I won't even usually have a meal at a restaurant with a woman unless its my wife, or my wife is with me.

Those are all things I was taught as I was preparing for the ministry, LONG BEFORE I was ever married.
its very understandable. and on the flip side, its women who make false claims that are hurting the women who make real claims.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 08:10 PM
its very understandable. and on the flip side, its women who make false claims that are hurting the women who make real claims.

Yep.. absolutely. I have said that a million times as well.

That is why a "wait and see" attitude is the best approach to take here.

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 08:12 PM
I just keep telling myself that the Rooney's would never have given Ben a huge long term contract, basically making him the face of the Steelers for many years to come, if he really was a horrible person of questionable character. We, as Steelers fans, should know Dan Rooney better than that and should have faith in that.

At least I hope that's the case....................http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sueincinci/Smileys/yahoo_pray.gif

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 08:19 PM
I just keep telling myself that the Rooney's would never have given Ben a huge long term contract, basically making him the face of the Steelers for many years to come, if he really was a horrible person of questionable character. We, as Steelers fans, should know Dan Rooney better than that and should have faith in that.

At least I hope that's the case....................http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sueincinci/Smileys/yahoo_pray.gif

Not to mention the Steelers put out a statement that they support Ben and believe that he will come out of this just fine. They wouldn't have made that comment if they believed they was a chance that he actually did what he was accused of.

So far, the only people who have heard Ben's side of the story is his lawyer and the Steelers brass. If Art Rooney believes Ben is innocent after hearing his side of the story, that's good enough for me.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 08:21 PM
unfortunely though if this goes to trial, then ben will have to prove to a jury he is innocent.

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 08:23 PM
unfortunely though if this goes to trial, then ben will have to prove to a jury he is innocent.

And if he's the man the Rooney's and the Steelers family believe he is, then he will have no problems doing just that.

X-Terminator
07-22-2009, 08:24 PM
HTG and I are slated to go to camp August 5...I can only hope that there isn't a whole lot of BS going on and we can actually enjoy it.

Anyway, screw football season. Is it hockey season yet?

SteelersinCA
07-22-2009, 08:29 PM
unfortunely though if this goes to trial, then ben will have to prove to a jury he is innocent.

Actually, no one ever has to prove they are innocent, the government must prove you are guilty.

TackleMeBen
07-22-2009, 08:31 PM
Actually, no one ever has to prove they are innocent, the government must prove you are guilty.
that is the way it is suppost to be, but we know that it doesnt work that way all the time.

SteelersinCA
07-22-2009, 08:33 PM
it hardly ever works that way sadly.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 08:53 PM
Actually, no one ever has to prove they are innocent, the government must prove you are guilty.

And in a civil suit, it's not the government's job to prove you are guilty, it's the lawyer of the person who filed suit, not a government prosecutor.

She would need evidence that this actually happened. Waiting a year, never filing a police report (yet telling your coworkers)...those things don't help with proof.

Who knows, maybe she was raped that weekend. Maybe she imagined it was Ben because they had a conversation about fly fishing earlier that weekend.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 08:57 PM
And in a civil suit, it's not the government's job to prove you are guilty, it's the lawyer of the person who filed suit, not a government prosecutor.

She would need evidence that this actually happened. Waiting a year, never filing a police report (yet telling your coworkers)...those things don't help with proof.

Who knows, maybe she was raped that weekend. Maybe she imagined it was Ben because they had a conversation about fly fishing earlier that weekend.

Or maybe she assumed that she could get more if he did it rather than whomever it was, or she even convinced herself it was him.

The mind does a lot of weird things when a person is in shock. . . assuming she was raped.

Preacher
07-22-2009, 08:58 PM
Actually, no one ever has to prove they are innocent, the government must prove you are guilty.


Except in abuse cases, where you are considered guilty until you are cleared. It really ticks me off too.

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 09:21 PM
And regardless, the idiot put himself in this position. . . .

I'm sorry, Preacher, but how exactly did the "idiot" put himself in this position? By simply being at the same resort the accuser was working at? Again, what is he supposed to do, become the Greta Garbo of the NFL and spend his offseasons being a reclusive hermit? Ludicrous.

Gnutella
07-22-2009, 09:26 PM
By not keeping his dick in his pants in the first place.

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 09:29 PM
By not keeping his dick in his pants in the first place.

Haven't seen any PROOF that he didn't do just that. Andrea McNulty's word alone don't mean jack shit to me.

stillers4me
07-22-2009, 09:34 PM
Or maybe she assumed that she could get more if he did it rather than whomever it was, or she even convinced herself it was him.

The mind does a lot of weird things when a person is in shock. . . assuming she was raped.

Weider things have happened, that's for sure. There's some crazy people out there.

I just hope she'll break under pressure, admit she lied for whatever reason and drops the whole thing. If Ben is innocent (which I tend to think is the case), it's terrible thing to have over your head for 1 or 2 years. It's one thing to be casual about sex in his position, but quite another to be labeled a rapist. At least he doesn't have a wife and kids who are suffering over this. I'm sure his parents are just sick.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 09:35 PM
By not keeping his dick in his pants in the first place.

Now you're assuming that she's telling the truth. Ben may have never had sex with her, period. She could be making it all up. Like I said before, she could have been raped by someone else and imagined it was Roethlisberger.

Hammer Of The GODS
07-22-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm sorry, Preacher, but how exactly did the "idiot" put himself in this position? By simply being at the same resort the accuser was working at? Again, what is he supposed to do, become the Greta Garbo of the NFL and spend his offseasons being a reclusive hermit? Ludicrous.

Haven't seen any PROOF that he didn't do just that. Andrea McNulty's word alone don't mean jack shit to me.


Agreed. We can't expect these guys to live a completely sterile life.

The sad part of this whole thing is that when the false charges are dropped and Ben is cleared he could become VERY jaded (rightfully so) and begin to refuse autographs, conversations with fans and any other interactions with us common folks!

This whole thing is a pile of :poop:

mesaSteeler
07-22-2009, 09:38 PM
Column: How will charges affect Ben, Steelers?
http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2009/07/22/sports/steelers/doc4a668a22bc465483942026.txt
By Mike Bires, Times Sports Staff
Published: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:46 PM EDT

It had been a quiet off-season for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, comes news of a sexual assault claim against Ben Roethlisberger. With camp just nine days away, the Steelers and Roethlisberger have a big-time distraction on their hands. It’s not the kind of issue the Steelers want to take with them to Latrobe as they begin to defend their Super Bowl title.

Roethlisberger’s attorney said the star quarterback did not assault a Harrah’s employee last summer and will soon be exonerated.

Public perception, at least in western Pennsylvania, sides with Roethlisberger.

On one hand, that’s understandable. He’s beloved around here. He’s a two-time Super Bowl champ.

And it was only seven years ago that ex-Steeler running back Jerome Bettis had his name and reputation dragged through the mud.

During training camp in 2002, a woman lured Bettis into having sex with her, and then cried sexual assault after the fact. Two months later, Bettis was cleared of any wrongdoing.

An investigation showed the woman and her uncle concocted a scheme to extort money from Bettis.

Bettis was innocent. But for nearly two months, his life was tormented by a bogus claim.

Time will tell if Andrea McNulty is lying and simply trying to get a cash settlement from Roethlisberger. In her suit, she’s asking for a minimum of $440,000 in damages.

That sounds more like a cash grab than a quest for justice.

Unfortunately, this sexual assault suit doesn’t figure to go away soon. It will shadow Roethlisberger as he reports to camp on July 31.

We can only wonder how it will affect his psyche once practice and the season begin.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell could even suspend Roethlisberger if he feels Roethlisberger violated the league’s Personal Conduct Policy.

And even if Roethlisberger is absolved of any blame, the words “Ben Roethlisberger sued for sexual assault” are out there.

That’s something that may never go away.

Mike Bires can be reached online at mbires@timesonline.com.

Riddle_Of_Steel
07-22-2009, 09:39 PM
Some more updates on the matter....

Apparently, she was going to those psychiatric counselling sessions for a totally different reason than the ones she stated in the lawsuit....

As per some of her co-workers, she was involved in an affair with a married Marine in Iraq. She had been corresponding with this guy for like a year and even got engaged, but it turns out, the emails were fictitious and being sent by the guy's wife. When McNutty found out, she lied again to all her friends and told them he got killed in Iraq.

THAT is why she was going to counselling, not because of this mile-high story about fixing Big Ben's TV set and rape and all.

Combine that with the fact that she has no evidence, no criminal complaint, no witnesses, and being a known liar, doesn't look too good for her.

I hope Big Ben counter-sues her dumb azz for $400k afterwards.

Turds like her make it tougher for ACTUAL rape victims to get the help they need.

fansince'76
07-22-2009, 09:43 PM
Some more updates on the matter....

Apparently, she was going to those psychiatric counselling sessions for a totally different reason than the ones she stated in the lawsuit....

As per some of her co-workers, she was involved in an affair with a married Marine in Iraq. She had been corresponding with this guy for like a year and even got engaged, but it turns out, the emails were fictitious and being sent by the guy's wife. When McNutty found out, she lied again to all her friends and told them he got killed in Iraq.

THAT is why she was going to counselling....

Yeah, she's REAL credible, alright. :coffee:

RoethlisBURGHer
07-22-2009, 09:46 PM
Some more updates on the matter....

Apparently, she was going to those psychiatric counselling sessions for a totally different reason than the ones she stated in the lawsuit....

As per some of her co-workers, she was involved in an affair with a married Marine in Iraq. She had been corresponding with this guy for like a year and even got engaged, but it turns out, the emails were fictitious and being sent by the guy's wife. When McNutty found out, she lied again to all her friends and told them he got killed in Iraq.

THAT is why she was going to counselling, not because of this mile-high story about fixing Big Ben's TV set and rape and all.

Combine that with the fact that she has no evidence, no criminal complaint, no witnesses, and being a known liar, doesn't look too good for her.

I hope Big Ben counter-sues her dumb azz for $400k afterwards.

Turds like her make it tougher for ACTUAL rape victims to get the help they need.

That's for sure.

One day a woman will actually be raped by a celebrity, but nobody is going to believe it because of women like Andrea McNulty.

Preacher
07-23-2009, 01:05 AM
I'm sorry, Preacher, but how exactly did the "idiot" put himself in this position? By simply being at the same resort the accuser was working at? Again, what is he supposed to do, become the Greta Garbo of the NFL and spend his offseasons being a reclusive hermit? Ludicrous.

FS... Please read the entire post...

until it is proven either way, I wouldn't assume yet.

And regardless, the idiot put himself in this position. . . unless she was never even in his room... but so far, it seems she was.

Notice I said UNLESS she was never even in his room....

No, if he didn't bring her to his room, then my comment is void.

If he did, then it is a different ball game. You don't hit up the hotel staff. You open yourself up for trouble. You don't sleep with some girl at a bar, you open yourself up for trouble. You stay around with other stars, or MAKE SURE YOU ARE VIDEOTAPING your encounters.

Nothing about being reclusive. Just about being smart.

steeler dude
07-23-2009, 01:27 AM
I still say I stand behind Ben on this one 100 % until proven guilty. I know a lot more about Ben on the field and off then the accuser to whom I no nothing. It's just normal to defend someone you like/know until it has been proven / admitted or what have you.This is a Steelers fan website and I think every TRUE FAN should back up those who bleed/wear The Black N Gold until it is beyond a doubt that this person did in fact commit the crime ! Yes at this time I do think the accuser is telling the truth and is doing it in order to benefit herself ! One question for the preacher.......... When this is all over and nothing is proven or that Ben is found not guilty will it be OK to call the accuser a money grab,ho,mental tard and skank ?or should we still feel sorry or care about someone who could have destroyed an innocent persons life and career ?

SteelersinCA
07-23-2009, 01:31 AM
You know it's interesting how we look at things through a different shade of glass when it concerns one of our own fan favorites. There have been a lot of off the field incidents during the off season and I just want people to look at how they react to this situation compared to Stallworth, Vick, McNair, Kobe, Ray Lewis, Michael Jackson, etc.

Definitely interesting to see how perspectives change when the accused is someone you cheer for vs someone you root against.

steeler dude
07-23-2009, 01:44 AM
I loved Vick I'm a VT fan I backed him until he said he did it and the courts found him guilty.I was embarrassed and shamed . We can't control anyone but ourselves but does that mean if your kid ,friend or bothers son got accused of a crime you would just think well He/she might have did it even though he said he didn't ?Maybe you would say well I don't think he/she did it and I hope that what they say is true you would feel mad also that they are getting accused of somethin you felt the did not do ! maybe

OneForTheToe
07-23-2009, 01:52 AM
i hope you are right. i was going on what my sister told me. she works for a bunch of lawyers.

I'm not saying the info your sister is getting bad information, Just that the state making your civil case is a big help. One thing that the PIs are going to surely do is dig into Ben's past and try to find any incidents with other women. Hopefully, there are not a lot of women scorned out there who might want to get even with a guy who told them he would respect them in the morning. After all, her attorney only wants enough dirt to make Ben's lawyer sit him down for a conversation that goes something like: " now Ben if you want to fight this to the end I'm with you all the way ... I believe in you ..... However ......................."

Hopefully, her case falls apart long before that.

Wren
07-23-2009, 02:06 AM
Folks keep in mind this person is a diagnosed paranoid talking about a conspiracy. There is a reason her and her lawyers are giving the cops a wide berth. This isn't gonna be as bad as anyone thinks.

tucker6
07-23-2009, 06:54 AM
Umm, why the word "charges" in the title?? Ben has not been charged with anything. A claim was filed against him civily, but that is not a charge. Only the police can file charges, and they aren't interested.

HometownGal
07-23-2009, 08:07 AM
Umm, why the word "charges" in the title?? Ben has not been charged with anything. A claim was filed against him civily, but that is not a charge. Only the police can file charges, and they aren't interested.

While you are exactly right, most public perception outside of Steelers fans is that Ben was charged with sexual assault and therefore is guilty and the scum of the earth. Take a peek on other teams' boards and you'll see what I mean.

Of course this is going to be somewhat of a distraction for Ben until the matter is resolved but I really think while he is on the field and in "class", he'll be focused and the true professional we've seen over the years.

And even if Roethlisberger is absolved of any blame, the words “Ben Roethlisberger sued for sexual assault” are out there.

That’s something that may never go away.


BULLSHIT. Not if - but WHEN Ben is absolved of any blame, the pundits will die down and so will the negative attention.

I'm going to merge this with the other Ben thread. We don't want to clog up the Steelers forum with this story.

trauben
07-23-2009, 08:33 AM
I think this article says it well.................

ESPN showing restraint with Ben Roethlisberger
JOE RIMKUS JR. / STAFF FILE PHOTO

http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2009/07/22/20/232-BEN29_SUPER_SPTS_JWR.embedded.prod_affiliate.56.JP G
Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger laughs during an interview for Super Bowl XLIII at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2009. He is accused in a civil lawsuit of raping a woman at a casino-hotel last summer.

We got a couple of creepy voyeuristic peeks into the sports media this week. Both stories, one involving a champion quarterback and the other involving a pretty sideline reporter, could make you teeter between feeling stimulated and feeling dirty. One involved a shameful peephole that undressed a popular sports figure. And the other involved Erin Andrews.

The Ben Roethlisberger and Andrews stories aren't that different metaphorically, believe it or not. They involve what the public craves, and how much of that craving should be fed, and how this ever-growing appetite takes us into places we ought not be sometimes.

I can't tell you how many people I've heard say how disgusting it is that someone would illegally videotape a naked Andrews in her hotel room . . . while requesting the link. And I can't tell you how many people I've heard complain about how the media behaves . . . while craving and even demanding the dirt produced by that behavior. We cover our aghast faces with our hands but can't help but feed our primal urges by peeking through splayed fingers.

Roethlisberger, for those of you who don't know (and you wouldn't know for more than a day if your only source of sports information is ESPN), is being accused of rape in a civil suit. Civil suit. Not criminal. It is an important distinction, if you care about fairness. I have no idea if this woman was terribly and criminally wronged or is insane. I just know she can say whatever she wants in a civil suit without making it so. The temptation is to report what she says, and file it under journalistic ``fact-gathering'' or ``truth-seeking,'' even though the media, allegedly fair and objective, is never, ever, ever as zealous or thorough in reporting the acquittal as it is in reporting the accusation.

Let's make it your brother, your father or you instead of Roethlisberger. And let's say, for the sake of argument, that you are being wrongly accused in a civil suit. And then that ``news'' is everywhere, smearing you, but the exoneration isn't reported with the same gossipy hyperventilation. That going to feel fair? The need to be first long ago trampled the need to be just or right or just right. The need to get the conversation going in the instant-media age has usurped the need to have the conversation be fair or human or empathetic.

Asking the media to slow down on Roethlisberger until he at least speaks or until police are involved is like asking piranha to be reasonable. Doesn't help, either, that the voices gathering strength on the Internet are shouting for more bloody chum to be thrown in the water. The temptation as the crowd gathers around the peephole is to wander over toward the whispers.

Which makes what ESPN did kind of amazing in the modern media age. It totally ignored this Roethlisberger story before finally bowing Wednesday night. Everyone else was reporting it. Everyone. And consumers crave it. The famous falling is always a ratings monster. Michael Jackson's death wouldn't have been covered that way if media outlets weren't being rewarded for covering it that way by the paying public.

But predictably, ESPN was killed for protecting Roethlisberger. Covered for him instead of covering him. All ESPN was doing was waiting for him to speak or for police to get involved. But we want our gossip, even if it is not true, and our need for it makes TMZ and smut rags grow while books and newspapers and literary magazines die. It is one of the many ways America keeps getting dumber by the day. And, in this climate, it makes the high ground an awfully difficult place to be.

http://www.miamiherald.com/609/story/1153513.html?storylink=omni_popular

The_WARDen
07-23-2009, 08:42 AM
actually, I think ESPN is way wrong. They aren't even talking about it at all..shocking as that is.

It opens them up to tons of questions as to why...

Steel Head
07-23-2009, 08:49 AM
I loved Vick I'm a VT fan I backed him until he said he did it and the courts found him guilty.

Vick was obviously guilty from the get go

scsteeler
07-23-2009, 08:50 AM
actually, I think ESPN is way wrong. They aren't even talking about it at all..shocking as that is.

It opens them up to tons of questions as to why...


Not that I am mad because it is Ben but yes the question is going to be asked if it were someone else would they be as hush about talking about this.

tucker6
07-23-2009, 09:13 AM
Not that I am mad because it is Ben but yes the question is going to be asked if it were someone else would they be as hush about talking about this.

maybe ESPN is trying to set a new journalistic standard for themselves. I applaud them for that.

fansince'76
07-23-2009, 09:35 AM
FS... Please read the entire post...

Uh, yeah, I did read the entire post.

until it is proven either way, I wouldn't assume yet.

And regardless, the idiot put himself in this position. . . unless she was never even in his room... but so far, it seems she was.

In this context, I take the word "regardless" as meaning it was Ben's fault and ultimately his fault alone that these accusations were levied against him, and at this point, it appears they were levied at him due solely to the fact that he was staying in the same resort the accuser worked at. You may want to choose your words a bit more carefully next time if that isn't what you meant.

The_WARDen
07-23-2009, 09:59 AM
maybe ESPN is trying to set a new journalistic standard for themselves. I applaud them for that.

well, until I stop seeing the daily updates on what Favre at for breakfast..I will not applaud them.

The Lakelander
07-23-2009, 10:01 AM
The lawsuit said she was treated between last August and December at five different hospitals for depression and anxiety stemming from the alleged assault, and returned to work each time after treatment.

This has holes all through it!

Why would someone seek 5 different hospitals to treat for severe depression?

Was it that the first four mis-diagnosed her?

Was it that none of the hospitals could confirm her problems?

Was it that she couldn't find adequate medical care in the first four?

Was it that four hospitals wasn't enough to treat her?

Was it that her primary care physician suggested she try one and if that place wasn't adequate she try another ... then another?

This demonstrates to me a lack of commitment to any serious treatment plan. Someone suffering from severe depression should be in the care and counsel of a psychotherapist and should be prescribed mild to moderate anti-depressants under the care of a trusted physician.

Five different hospitals makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!

Hines4ever
07-23-2009, 10:19 AM
Ok, step back and look at this whole thing for a minute.

Are we talking about the same player that was warned by the NFL not to put "PFJ" on his shoes? (Pray For Jesus).

Can someone change that much?

http://www.uniformviolation.com/ViolationDetails-NFL.php?vid=34

I've heard of some pretty consistent stories that he's an arrogant a** and has a pretty bad reputation with women....I personally don't want to believe it!!! But just sayin":noidea:

Hines4ever
07-23-2009, 10:30 AM
The lawsuit said she was treated between last August and December at five different hospitals for depression and anxiety stemming from the alleged assault, and returned to work each time after treatment.

This has holes all through it!

Why would someone seek 5 different hospitals to treat for severe depression?

Was it that the first four mis-diagnosed her?

Was it that none of the hospitals could confirm her problems?

Was it that she couldn't find adequate medical care in the first four?

Was it that four hospitals wasn't enough to treat her?

Was it that her primary care physician suggested she try one and if that place wasn't adequate she try another ... then another?

This demonstrates to me a lack of commitment to any serious treatment plan. Someone suffering from severe depression should be in the care and counsel of a psychotherapist and should be prescribed mild to moderate anti-depressants under the care of a trusted physician.

Five different hospitals makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!

I'm in the mental health profession and not only treat people but also manage utilization of patients in psychiatric hospitals. There could be ALOT of reasons she had multiple admissions.
First - psychiatry is not an exact science unfortunately....I've seen a ton of patients have differing diagnosis depending on what doctor they see because they all come from differing disciplines
Second - if she was put on medications and she had negative side effects, that could also cause multiple hospitalizations.

There is a significant population who, for whatever reason, cannot tolerate the consistency of psychotherapy. They either think the meds are a cure all or they are not ready to face their demons.

Then there are those that thrive on crisis and the attention that the admission to a psychiatric hospital provides. These people are generally not suffering from depression or anxiety as their primary issue. Usually, these types of people are personality disordered...and there is a ton of diferent kinds....these characterlogical issues do not respond to medication and very rarely respond to 1:1 therapy (again the attention just feeds it)....Not saying this woman is what we call Axis II (personality disorderd) in the profession....but alot of what I'm hearing could certainly make any thereapist at least rule that possiblity out.

Hines4ever
07-23-2009, 11:19 AM
actually, I think ESPN is way wrong. They aren't even talking about it at all..shocking as that is.

It opens them up to tons of questions as to why...

I've seen "racism" being screamed the reason why from numerous sources.
This is going to get way outta hand before we see it get better.

7SteelGal43
07-23-2009, 11:35 AM
Hopefully, her case falls apart long before that.

AMEN

SteelersMongol
07-23-2009, 11:35 AM
They showed the news about Ben is sued by some chick last night on TV in Thailand which is where I am at the moment. My God, that girl is way 2 awful looking 1.

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 11:42 AM
Steelers' Roethlisberger to make public comment today
Thursday, July 23, 2009
Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Ben Roethlisberger reversed fields somewhat and will make a public statement at the Steelers complex at 2 p.m. today. He will take no questions, a club spokesman said. A scheduled news conference today to promote Roethlisberger's appearance on a new reality TV show with Shaquille O'Neal was previously scrapped after a civil lawsuit was filed against Roethlisberger by a woman in Nevada claiming the Steelers quarterback sexually assaulter her in 2008.


Read more: http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com/pg/09204/985901-66.stm#ixzz0M67PjBJP

klick81
07-23-2009, 11:57 AM
Steelers' Roethlisberger to make public comment today
Thursday, July 23, 2009
Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Ben Roethlisberger reversed fields somewhat and will make a public statement at the Steelers complex at 2 p.m. today. He will take no questions, a club spokesman said. A scheduled news conference today to promote Roethlisberger's appearance on a new reality TV show with Shaquille O'Neal was previously scrapped after a civil lawsuit was filed against Roethlisberger by a woman in Nevada claiming the Steelers quarterback sexually assaulter her in 2008.


Read more: http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com/pg/09204/985901-66.stm#ixzz0M67PjBJP

Play this smart Ben...play this smart. I still cannot believe this is happening.

revefsreleets
07-23-2009, 12:00 PM
If he says "I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman....miss McNulty" The we are in BIG BIG trouble!

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 12:02 PM
Or a freaking Kobe Quote

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did."

The_WARDen
07-23-2009, 12:13 PM
I've seen "racism" being screamed the reason why from numerous sources.
This is going to get way outta hand before we see it get better.

That's what I mean.... by ignoring the story, now they open themselves up to the "what if were a black QB" debate...

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 12:13 PM
Level of media interest surprises lawyer of Roethlisberger accuser

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09204/985850-66.stm#ixzz0M6EstthB

RENO, Nev. -- Upstairs, in one of the rooms of his law office on Ralston Street yesterday, attorney Calvin R.X. Dunlap conferred with his latest high-profile client -- the woman who has accused Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her last year in the Nevada hotel where she worked.

But the attorney-client conversation was not limited to the civil lawsuit they have filed against Mr. Roethlisberger -- whose attorney vigorously denies the charges -- and eight high-ranking officials at Harrah's Lake Tahoe Resort. It also involved a bit of counseling in how to cope with the throng of reporters -- from newspapers, magazines, radio, television and the Internet -- who have swarmed into her life.

"It's surprising to me," Mr. Dunlap said to a reporter after ushering his client into another room in an attempt to shield her from questions. "Amazing, actually."

Mr. Roethlisberger's attorney would add nothing more to what he said regarding the case in a statement Monday night.

Earlier yesterday, TV camera crews, reporters and Internet videographers had staked out the plaintiff's home in Gardnerville, near Lake Tahoe, in the hope of catching sight of the woman. The few neighbors that live in the sparsely populated town at the base of a mountain range shunned requests for interviews.

Mr. Dunlap, a longtime presence in Reno's legal circles, is no stranger to the news media. A 1964 graduate of the University of Nevada, Reno, with a 1970 law degree from Santa Clara University Law School in California, he rose as a prosecutor in the Washoe County, Nev., district attorney's office, winning every jury trial he handled, including robbery, rape, bribery and murder cases.

In 1979, he was elected district attorney, a post he held for four years before returning to private practice.

"Twelve years was enough," he said. "And, at that time, it didn't pay very well."

Over the past decades, Mr. Dunlap has been involved in a number of cases that have gained national attention.

He is representing the state's first lady, Dawn Gibbons, in her contentious divorce from Gov. Jim Gibbons. He sued the storied Mizpah Hotel in Reno on behalf of survivors of a 2006 fire that killed 12 people and injured 31. He represented Darren Roy Mack, who in 2006 was accused of stabbing his estranged wife and then shooting the family court judge handling the case.

Now, Mr. Dunlap has taken up the case of an executive casino host, who claims that she was assaulted by Mr. Roethlisberger while he was staying at the hotel for a celebrity golf tournament. She is seeking more than $380,000 for lost wages and medical bills and unspecified additional damages.

In her suit, the woman, a Canadian citizen, said she did not go to the police because she "was afraid of the consequences of reporting it." Mr. Dunlap said his client reported the incident to her supervisors, which was tantamount to approaching authorities.

When hotel supervisors resisted her calls for action, she said, she fell into a yearlong battle with depression and anxiety, requiring several hospital and treatment center visits.

She contacted an attorney who pointed her in the direction of Mr. Dunlap.

For the last 10 years, Mr. Dunlap has been working with his partner, Monique Laxalt, the daughter of author Robert Laxalt and niece of Paul Laxalt, the former governor and U.S. senator from Nevada. They specialize in personal injury, malpractice, liability, criminal defense and insurance claims.

Dunlap & Laxalt is a two-person law firm, operating in a gray, two-story building that years ago must have been one of Reno's nicer downtown homes.

Visitors knock on the screen door and wait to be invited into the building, which, despite the clutter of a busy law office, retains the smooth wooden features of comfortable space.

On a wall, was a plaque honoring him as 2007 Nevada Trial Lawyer of the Year.

Once upstairs, Mr. Dunlap showed the personable traits that have brought him success before judges and juries. But he steadfastly refused to discuss the case in any detail or tip his hand as to what his approach might be.

"I've been on both sides of the arena," he said of the tug-of-war for information. "In the governor's divorce, for example, they wanted to close hearings and seal the filings. I challenged the constitutionality of it, and we won. So I've been a proponent of public access."

But this case is different, he said. His client does not want attention.

"We had nothing to do with this matter being public," Mr. Dunlap said. "The last thing we want is paparazzi."

I find this totally incredible.

You're sueing the Super Bowl Winning QB 6 months after the biggest game in the biggest sport in the country for RAPE and you are "surprised" at the media attention?

Really?

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 12:15 PM
Roethlisberger's superstar lawyer
Thursday, July 23, 2009
By Jonathan D. Silver, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Ben Roethlisberger, the highest-profile defendant in a Nevada woman's sex assault lawsuit, retained a legal superstar in the sports world, William David Cornwell Sr., to defend him.

Mr. Cornwell, of DNK Cornwell LLC in Atlanta, has represented many sports stars and was among those considered recently to head the National Football League Players Association.

Mr. Cornwell's nicknames include "The Wolf" and the "Go to Guy," and his firm's Web site is filled with comments that praise him for being a "brilliant legal mind" and "the best lawyer in the nation" on sports issues.

Mr. Cornwell's practice ranges from reviewing players' endorsement deals to handling cases of substance abuse to serving as an expert witness. He is also a talking head on TV, having analyzed, among other things, the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case.

Mr. Cornwell also spoke with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and league executives about "the best way to respond to recurring incidents of criminal behavior among NFL players," according to his Web site.

Mr. Cornwell released a two-paragraph statement Monday denying the allegations against Mr. Roethlisberger.

But he declined further comment yesterday in an e-mail.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09204/985848-66.stm#ixzz0M6Fc0KIb

fansince'76
07-23-2009, 12:22 PM
In her suit, the woman, a Canadian citizen, said she did not go to the police because she "was afraid of the consequences of reporting it."

The consequences of filing a false police report, maybe? :coffee:

SteelCityMan786
07-23-2009, 12:27 PM
Can you imagine the posters/signs being brought to the games? Especially by Browns and Ravens fans. Poor Ben................................

I'm sure someone will mention Ray's Murder trial and Jamal Lewis getting busted for The Grass.

TackleMeBen
07-23-2009, 12:29 PM
this is going to get very ugly before it goes away, especially if it goes to trial. it may be better in the long run to just pay the woman off.

fansince'76
07-23-2009, 12:29 PM
"We had nothing to do with this matter being public," Mr. Dunlap said.

Uh, yeah, you did. You filed the civil complaint against a well-known public figure. :dang:

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 12:35 PM
I'll get a better read of what the plan is from Ben's perspective after he gives his statement today. But from what the lawyer already said, seeing who he hired, seeing the reaction of the lawyer on her side now that the media is overwhelming his client, I have a feeling Ben goes on the Attack, doesn't back off, says he's willing to go to court to avoid a payment and pretty much gets his his way out of it by burying her in a counter suit.

At least, that's what I'd do if I just hired a lawyer known as "the Wolf".

TackleMeBen
07-23-2009, 12:38 PM
i dont think he would have retained that lawyer if he wasnt planning on fighting it.

i truly, hope she is a nut job and he didnt do this.

and if it comes out that she is lying, oh i wouldnt want to be her and face the rath of steeler nation.

TackleMeBen
07-23-2009, 12:39 PM
Uh, yeah, you did. You filed the civil complaint against a well-known public figure. :dang:
lol. but they cant help he is a well known football star...:chuckle:.

it amazes me how some people can either be so stupid or naive.

steelreserve
07-23-2009, 12:47 PM
In her suit, the woman, a Canadian citizen, said she did not go to the police because she "was afraid of the consequences of reporting it." Mr. Dunlap said his client reported the incident to her supervisors, which was tantamount to approaching authorities.

Good job there, rocket scientist. Since, you know, the consequences of handling it this way are so much different.

Hines4ever
07-23-2009, 12:55 PM
I find this totally incredible.

You're sueing the Super Bowl Winning QB 6 months after the biggest game in the biggest sport in the country for RAPE and you are "surprised" at the media attention?

Really?[/B]

Let me echo that my friend with a little more harshness....

ARE YOU F*IN KIDDING ME....WTF????????????????????

The_WARDen
07-23-2009, 01:06 PM
Let me echo that my friend with a little more harshness....

ARE YOU F*IN KIDDING ME....WTF????????????????????


Sorry..you're still being too vague.

steelreserve
07-23-2009, 01:12 PM
Sorry..you're still being too vague.

I didn't understand what he was talking about either.

Sounded like maybe he wanted a sandwich?

It was either that or something about being gay, I think.

FacemeIke
07-23-2009, 01:37 PM
Anyone have a link to where we can watch Ben's statement this afternoon? Would like to watch it from work.

Edman
07-23-2009, 01:43 PM
So here are the facts.

Charges are not being brought up against Ben.
Ben was not arrested or brought in for questioning for all this time.
This is not a criminal case.
The Police are not involved.
Ben is not on trial.
Girl has a history of being a headcase.

Anything else I'm missing?

Fire Haley
07-23-2009, 01:53 PM
If he says "I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman....miss McNulty" The we are in BIG BIG trouble!

That's the first thing I thought too - now I'm really nervous.

steelreserve
07-23-2009, 01:57 PM
So here are the facts.

Charges are not being brought up against Ben.
Ben was not arrested or brought in for questioning for all this time.
This is not a criminal case.
The Police are not involved.
Ben is not on trial.
Girl has a history of being a headcase.

Anything else I'm missing?

Yeah ... the part where it's usually cheaper and easier for a celebrity to just settle a lawsuit and make it go away than it is to actually fight it. That's what she's counting on.

Seems kind of convenient that the amount of cash she's asking for is right in the "sweet spot" where it's not enough to break Ben's bank, but probably less than what it'll cost to hire a team of high-profile lawyers for a drawn-out trial.

Roll the dice ... yay legal system!

Fire Haley
07-23-2009, 02:03 PM
ESPN is leading with the story - says it could take a year before it comes to trial.

Ben live on ESPN

Deny deny deny

He's using the "I did not have sex with that woman" defense....that's it.

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 02:07 PM
Anyone watching his statement? I can't stream it at work.

Hines4ever
07-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Anyone have a link to where we can watch Ben's statement this afternoon? Would like to watch it from work.

Did a search and two articles state that it was cancelled but one was from yesterday and another from the 21st:noidea:

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 02:10 PM
Woah, he's saying No Sex at all!!???

Fire Haley
07-23-2009, 02:10 PM
It was OK....he sounded pissed

Deny deny deny - that's the ticket.

"Reckless accusations".... deny everything

Dino 6 Rings
07-23-2009, 02:13 PM
Awesome, if he's claiming he never even touched the girl, that's great. I'll have to take back all my "don't mess around with the hotel staff you dumb jock" comments.