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HometownGal
09-09-2009, 07:51 AM
Here's your deal Mrs. Ed . . . .

:upyours:

Hope you like it up the pooper, McNutty, because that's exactly what Ben's attorneys are going to do to you in Court.

stillers4me
09-09-2009, 08:26 AM
They knew damn well that Ben wouldn't take this offer and it's a desperate attempt to look victimized since the facts to didn't make her look to good.

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 08:28 AM
not to stir the pot but....

Given that the criminal statute of limitations for rape hasn't expired, that would be a brilliant move.

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 08:33 AM
How is it a brilliant move? They have no case. This "offer" pretty much screams the fact that they don't. They took the gamble that Ben would be nothing but a $102 million patsy and simply pay her off for this to go away and they lost.

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 08:36 AM
she can still file a criminal complaint against him b/c the statue of limitions hasnt ran out yet.

dont stone me, i was just making a statement to see what others thought. :wave:

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 08:38 AM
And she can still get her ass thrown in jail for making a false report to the cops.

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 08:43 AM
And she can still get her ass thrown in jail for making a false report to the cops.
that is true also, which i think is the main reason she never went to the police in the first place. i hope you still love me:hug:, after my comment :wink02:

mesaSteeler
09-09-2009, 09:04 AM
If Ben accepted this "deal" and admited to rape Godell would ban him for life.

tunes4life
09-09-2009, 09:19 AM
Jeff Fisher: "Yes, I know that we're getting beaten 41-12 and there is only 45 seconds left in the game Mike. We would like to offer you a draw!"

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 09:22 AM
here are some comments off other teams MB

Smart woman. There's no way he can take that deal - it would cripple him professionally - but she just erased the "she's just a golddigger out for a payday" defense.

If this ever winds up in civil court and she loses, can she then "inform the police" and have Ben arrested on criminal charges?

I think she really wants to sue the hotel for preventing her from filing a claim against Ben.

Smart woman, or smart ambulance chasing scum lawyer?

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 09:42 AM
Smart woman....she just erased the "she's just a golddigger out for a payday" defense.

Mmmm, no, considering her case, which was paper-thin to begin with was absolutely blown out of the water by the recently released Emails. No, this is nothing more than a case of a shyster lawyer desperately trying to save face at this point.

stlrtruck
09-09-2009, 09:53 AM
If Ben accepted this "deal" and admited to rape Godell would ban him for life.

And give the patriots* another first roud pick.

Vis
09-09-2009, 09:57 AM
here are some comments off other teams MB

Smart woman. There's no way he can take that deal - it would cripple him professionally - but she just erased the "she's just a golddigger out for a payday" defense.

If this ever winds up in civil court and she loses, can she then "inform the police" and have Ben arrested on criminal charges?

I think she really wants to sue the hotel for preventing her from filing a claim against Ben.

Smart woman, or smart ambulance chasing scum lawyer?

It was a smart PR move. That's all it was. He can't admit to assault and they know it. They did it to help her reputation. I thought the attempt was transparent until I started reading reactions.

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 10:02 AM
A letter of apology?

I guess she has no choice since a witness said she bragged about having sex with him.

She should be hung by her ovaries.

this is my favorite post of all so far..lol

KeiselPower99
09-09-2009, 10:03 AM
Just heard that Ben has rejected her deal.

AllD
09-09-2009, 10:31 AM
Here's BB's final offer. His offer is nothing, not a dime. And he would appreciate it if she put up the money for the gaming license personally.

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 10:32 AM
i found this comment to be quite funny..lol
who introduced Ben to this crazy hoe? Dirk Nowitski?

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 10:40 AM
Just heard that Ben has rejected her deal.

PITTSBURGH (AP) - The attorney for Pittsburgh Steelers (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/pittsburgh-steelers) quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/200315) is rejecting a settlement offer by a former Nevada casino worker who claims the Super Bowl winner sexually assaulted her.




Roethlisberger attorney David Cornwell says the woman's offer is bizarre.

The woman wants Roethlisberger to admit to the allegations, apologize and donate $100,000 to the Committee to Aid Abused Women, a Reno nonprofit organization that offers support to domestic violence victims.

In a statement Wednesday, Cornwell says the proposal insults women who have legitimately suffered from sexual misconduct.

The woman sued the Super Bowl-winning quarterback in July, accusing him of assaulting her in 2008 in a hotel across the street from a golf course where he was playing in a celebrity tournament.
Roethlisberger has denied the allegations.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10042594/Big-Ben's-attorney-rejects-settlement-offer

4xSBChamps
09-09-2009, 10:40 AM
..... hope you like it up the pooper, McNutty.....

You better be careful, or she'll file a case against you, too!!!!!

HometownGal
09-09-2009, 11:08 AM
You better be careful, or she'll file a case against you, too!!!!!

Bring it beyotch! :wantsome: :banana:

Please folks - no more links on this topic. We're all well aware of what's going on from the article the OP posted. No need for redundancy.

OX1947
09-09-2009, 11:34 AM
Here's BB's final offer. His offer is nothing, not a dime. And he would appreciate it if she put up the money for the gaming license personally.

And dont contact me EVER, from now on you talk to Turnball.

SteelTalons
09-09-2009, 11:39 AM
how stupid, ben should sue her for slander, she has no case, its like kobes case, sure ben had sex with her but cocensually, not forcefully, shes nuts, just tryin to make a quick buck

Where the hell has it been said that Ben even slept with her? Besides speculation from random assholes.

CPanther95
09-09-2009, 11:41 AM
The best part isn't turning down her offer - it's the pursuit of sanctions against her lawyer.:laughing:

43Hitman
09-09-2009, 12:22 PM
Where the hell has it been said that Ben even slept with her? Besides speculation from random assholes.

I'm pretty sure Ben admitted consensual sex. Even though I have no idea why he would sleep with a swamp moose, when he can snag women like Natile Gulibus(sp?).

steelreserve
09-09-2009, 12:37 PM
I'm pretty sure Ben admitted consensual sex. Even though I have no idea why he would sleep with a swamp moose, when he can snag women like Natile Gulibus(sp?).

I don't think he ever actually admitted sleeping with her ... but I mean, let's face it, if he hadn't, he would've mentioned that A LOT.

stlrtruck
09-09-2009, 12:40 PM
I don't think Ben has ever openly admitted he's had consensual sex with her, but he also has not denied having consensual sex with her either.

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 12:44 PM
i found these on the 9ers board. and they are some great replies..lol.

Translation: When I'm done with you, you are going to wish that Ben had assaulted you.

Watch her reply be "I am now willing to drop all charges if Ben can tell me what 'contemporaneous' means without looking it up."

sadly athlets will never learn about not putting themselves in these predicaments. ben can fight to clear his name but mcnair cannot
what meeting a girl and taking her out to dinner and a concert and then having sex with her... I think thats what we ALL would have done. Is he suppose to not take out girls??

More like I am willing to drop these charges if I can have one more night with him.


And then a year from now she'll have another Civil suit...

Sounds like its time for James Harrison to go to work. Show this chick who is boss.

HometownGal
09-09-2009, 12:46 PM
i found these on the 9ers board. and they are some great replies..lol.

Translation: When I'm done with you, you are going to wish that Ben had assaulted you.

Watch her reply be "I am now willing to drop all charges if Ben can tell me what 'contemporaneous' means without looking it up."

sadly athlets will never learn about not putting themselves in these predicaments. ben can fight to clear his name but mcnair cannot
what meeting a girl and taking her out to dinner and a concert and then having sex with her... I think thats what we ALL would have done. Is he suppose to not take out girls??

More like I am willing to drop these charges if I can have one more night with him.


And then a year from now she'll have another Civil suit...

Sounds like its time for James Harrison to go to work. Show this chick who is boss.

Really, TMA - who gives a hoot what they're saying on a 9'ers board? :rolleyes: Give it a rest, please.

Dino 6 Rings
09-09-2009, 12:56 PM
HTG...You should be getting papers served here soon. I know it was you that put a knock out drug in my coffee 8 years ago at a starbucks in Indiana. I'm going to go ahead and sue you for 80 billion dollars...

Or you could apologize for the assualt on my person and donate 30 dollars to the nearest animal shelter. Its your choice, I'm trying to give you an easy way out.

SteelTalons
09-09-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't think he ever actually admitted sleeping with her ... but I mean, let's face it, if he hadn't, he would've mentioned that A LOT.

What does it matter what he hasn't said? He has no obligation to speak to the media and tell them his business.

The only person he has to explain it to is the judge. No one else matters, not me, not you, not anyone on this damn Earth.

Ether way you cut it people are gonna say he slept with her. If he comes out and says... I didn't do anything or if he just stays quiet. The only thing thats gonna do is give the media more material to work with.

Just keep your mouth shut, toss them a bone everyone once and a while. And deal with getting ready to play football. Its obvious the woman has no case, so there's no need is feeding the media. They're like seagulls, feed em' once and more and more show up until they become annoying.

I don't personally think he did anything with her because the chick looks like a squirrel. He was in Nevada, their are better looking women around than that, and if your desperate there are still much better looking hookers than that swamp moose squirrel thing than the hotel drug out of the desert. :doh:

steelreserve
09-09-2009, 01:13 PM
What does it matter what he hasn't said? He has no obligation to speak to the media and tell them his business.

The only person he has to explain it to is the judge. No one else matters, not me, not you, not anyone on this damn Earth.

Ether way you cut it people are gonna say he slept with her. If he comes out and says... I didn't do anything or if he just stays quiet. The only thing thats gonna do is give the media more material to work with.

Just keep your mouth shut, toss them a bone everyone once and a while. And deal with getting ready to play football. Its obvious the woman has no case, so there's no need is feeding the media. They're like seagulls, feed em' once and more and more show up until they become annoying.

I don't personally think he did anything with her because the chick looks like a squirrel. He was in Nevada, their are better looking women around than that, and if your desperate there are still much better looking hookers than that swamp moose squirrel thing than the hotel drug out of the desert. :doh:

Dude, if ... how do I put this politely ... the pigskin bus never pulled into Tuna Town, don't you think that's the first thing he'd say? I sure would.

Hammer67
09-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Maybe thats how you would see it, but I could see others viewing it in that he'd be donating it because he feels guilty even though he wouldn't admit it verbally.

There's nothing that he can do to make himself look good here other than fight it in a proper process. Donating money would be giving in to one of her demands, even if it would be a genuinely charitable thing to do.


What he should do (if/when he is proven innocent) is offer to pay for her mental health treatments. And THEN offer support to rape victim charities through his own charities...

That's what I would do.

steelreserve
09-09-2009, 01:25 PM
What he should do (if/when he is proven innocent) is offer to pay for her mental health treatments. And THEN offer support to rape victim charities through his own charities...

That's what I would do.

When he's proven innocent, he should issue a statement saying, "I don't have to give anyone a dime because of some bimbo making shit up. You can all feel free to suck my nuts."

That's what I would do, only with more swearing.

pancake
09-09-2009, 01:28 PM
I'm pretty sure Ben admitted consensual sex. Even though I have no idea why he would sleep with a swamp moose, when he can snag women like Natile Gulibus(sp?).

We all have had our beer goggle moments... :chuckle:

Hammer67
09-09-2009, 01:41 PM
When he's proven innocent, he should issue a statement saying, "I don't have to give anyone a dime because of some bimbo making shit up. You can all feel free to suck my nuts."

That's what I would do, only with more swearing.


LOL, that's what I would be thinking. Although the first option would probably go over better with soccer moms and potential companies considering endorsements... :chuckle:

stlrtruck
09-09-2009, 01:42 PM
We all have had our beer goggle moments... :chuckle:

I thought they were called slump busters?

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 01:50 PM
So, because he didn't explicitly deny it, I'm supposed to believe what some psycho said who, as has been amply proven, has quite a penchant for making shit up/imagining things? Think I'll continue to give Ben the benefit of the doubt on this one and believe that he didn't sleep with her unless he says otherwise, thanks.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-09-2009, 02:04 PM
I won't believe Ben slept with her until it comes out that he actually did.

His lawyer most likely told him to deny the allegations of sexually assaulting her, but nothing else. Don't say if you did or didn't have consensual sex with her, let that be brought up in court.

If Ben did have consensual sex with her....what the hell was he drinking to make him get it up for that? It had to have been moonshine.

SteelTalons
09-09-2009, 02:08 PM
I won't believe Ben slept with her until it comes out that he actually did.

His lawyer most likely told him to deny the allegations of sexually assaulting her, but nothing else. Don't say if you did or didn't have consensual sex with her, let that be brought up in court.

If Ben did have consensual sex with her....what the hell was he drinking to make him get it up for that? It had to have been moonshine.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/EverclearHiRes.jpg/300px-EverclearHiRes.jpg

Had to have been... :doh:

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 02:13 PM
What he should do (if/when he is proven innocent) is offer to pay for her mental health treatments. And THEN offer support to rape victim charities through his own charities...

That's what I would do.
i think he offered to pay for mental treatments and her legal fees and she turned him down.

LVSteelersfan
09-09-2009, 02:45 PM
Sorry, I know it has been said but if he admits rape, not only does she have recourse to have him put in prison, he would be banned from the NFL forever even though some jerk like Michael Vick gets back in. Because the Pats are scared of Ben but Vick does not scare them in the least. Conspiracy theory for sure. Oh, plus the Pats get the Steelers first round pick in addition to the extra one given to them by the Commissioner. So they would have four first round picks in 2011 with no player's agreement in place. Plus whatever other first round picks they get from the other foolish teams in the league that continue to give them to Craft. Yeah, that's the ticket. Sorry, I am bored today because I can't wait for tomorrow's game.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-09-2009, 02:56 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/EverclearHiRes.jpg/300px-EverclearHiRes.jpg

Had to have been... :doh:

Had that shit once. Never again.

KeiselPower99
09-09-2009, 03:10 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/EverclearHiRes.jpg/300px-EverclearHiRes.jpg

Had to have been... :doh:

That crap is illegal in most states for a reason.

WeegiesWarriors
09-09-2009, 04:10 PM
I knew when media shysters like Rome, Florio, and Colin Herd weren't touching this with a ten foot pole that this was bogus. Where there's fire.. those guys are there pouring gas on it daily. Don't listen to Herd much, but I listen to Romie frequently and he only weighed in VERY CAREFULLY the first day it came out in July and then nothing since, and everything spouted out by Florio has been pro-Ben. That told me a lot.

This is playing out how I figured.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-09-2009, 04:20 PM
I knew when media shysters like Rome, Florio, and Colin Herd weren't touching this with a ten foot pole that this was bogus. Where there's fire.. those guys are there pouring gas on it daily. Don't listen to Herd much, but I listen to Romie frequently and he only weighed in VERY CAREFULLY the first day it came out in July and then nothing since, and everything spouted out by Florio has been pro-Ben. That told me a lot.

This is playing out how I figured.

Very true.

I really like Rome. I may not always agree with him, but he speaks what he feels. He isn't an idiot.

Florio may be a bit of an ass and seems to not like Ben and/or the Steelers, but he isn't going to do something to keep his insiders from talking to him.

As for Cowherd, I am surprised he isn't fueling the fire because that guy is one big jagoff.

steelreserve
09-09-2009, 04:39 PM
So, because he didn't explicitly deny it, I'm supposed to believe what some psycho said who, as has been amply proven, has quite a penchant for making shit up/imagining things? Think I'll continue to give Ben the benefit of the doubt on this one and believe that he didn't sleep with her unless he says otherwise, thanks.

Either way, if he didn't bang her at all, it is completely mystifying to me why he wouldn't come right out and say so. If you were telling the truth, is seems like that would be the very first step in any reasonable defense.

Ahh well, who even cares? At this point, all it's good for is giggles; it doesn't really change anything in the case.

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 04:45 PM
I knew when media shysters like Rome, Florio, and Colin Herd weren't touching this with a ten foot pole that this was bogus. Where there's fire.. those guys are there pouring gas on it daily. Don't listen to Herd much, but I listen to Romie frequently and he only weighed in VERY CAREFULLY the first day it came out in July and then nothing since, and everything spouted out by Florio has been pro-Ben. That told me a lot.

This is playing out how I figured.
rome had it on his run down this afternoon on JRIB on espn, but i missed what he said.

i like rome too, he has always seem to be pro ben also.

TampaSteelerFan
09-09-2009, 04:50 PM
rome had it on his run down this afternoon on JRIB on espn, but i missed what he said.

i like rome too, he has always seem to be pro ben also.

He said something like "Ben has a better chance of admitting that he offed Ron & Nicole then he does admitting to this BS!" I think that is pretty well said regarding this situation with this skank.

Preacher
09-09-2009, 05:05 PM
So, because he didn't explicitly deny it, I'm supposed to believe what some psycho said who, as has been amply proven, has quite a penchant for making shit up/imagining things? Think I'll continue to give Ben the benefit of the doubt on this one and believe that he didn't sleep with her unless he says otherwise, thanks.

No. I believe he has sex with her because the core of the story sounding like someone who had mutual sex, and then tried to blow it up to rape.

And unless you know her personally, where does she make stuff up outside of this case? It was somebody else who made up the online boyfriend, then presented it to her as real. That is fraudulent on the other person's part, not make-believe on hers.

For me, it is the only thing that makes sense here, because those claims of "I am not on the pill-- that's ok, I will pull out" and "going into the bathroom" are too damaging otherwise.

Just because he is my QB doesn't mean I am going to ignore that part of the story either.

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 05:11 PM
And unless you know her personally, where does she make stuff up outside of this case? It was somebody else who made up the online boyfriend, then presented it to her as real. That is fraudulent on the other person's part, not make-believe on hers.

OK, how about her c0ck-and-bull story to friends and coworkers about her "online fling" dying in Iraq, for starters?

I simply don't believe anything she has to say. She's been far from credible up to now.

Preacher
09-09-2009, 05:15 PM
OK, how about her c0ck-and-bull story to friends and coworkers about her "online fling" dying in Iraq, for starters?

I don't believe anything she has to say.

After she found out that it was her ex-boyfriends wife that was playing a trick on her?

It seems a pattern that better fits my scenario than yours. Take something that is true, and blow it up grandiose. For her, that relationship was true, and then was over when she found out it was a lie. So she blew it up grandiose to him dying for his country.

That is a perfect fit to the action here. Consensual sex, he does respond to her afterwards probably, and she blows the whole thing up to rape.

In neither case, is there a fabrication from the beginning. Both are a twisting of a reality already established in her mind.

stillers4me
09-09-2009, 05:20 PM
Either way, if he didn't bang her at all, it is completely mystifying to me why he wouldn't come right out and say so. If you were telling the truth, is seems like that would be the very first step in any reasonable defense.



Doesn't "I did not have sex with that woman" sound a little........unoriginal? :chuckle:

I'm sure his lawyer have instructed him rightly so, to say nada.

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 05:20 PM
After she found out that it was her ex-boyfriends wife that was playing a trick on her?

It seems a pattern that better fits my scenario than yours. Take something that is true, and blow it up grandiose. For her, that relationship was true, and then was over when she found out it was a lie. So she blew it up grandiose to him dying for his country.

That is a perfect fit to the action here. Consensual sex, he does respond to her afterwards probably, and she blows the whole thing up to rape.

In neither case, is there a fabrication from the beginning. Both are a twisting of a reality already established in her mind.

OK, Preach - myself, Jessica Alba, and Megan Fox had a three-way. Believe me?

MACH1
09-09-2009, 05:22 PM
OK, Preach - myself, Jessica Alba, and Megan Fox had a three-way. Believe me?

Nope, cause it was me. :chuckle:

stillers4me
09-09-2009, 05:22 PM
I had sex with Brad Pitt.

I told him I wasn't on birth control but he was too far gone with passion to care.

Really. It's true.

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 05:23 PM
I had sex with Brad Pitt.

I told him I wasn't on birth control but he was to far gone with passion to care.

Really. It's true.

Hey, I don't know you personally, so I don't have any reason to doubt it, so it must be true.

steelreserve
09-09-2009, 05:30 PM
No, no, you guys got it backwards. It's more like if some fat chick came up and told all your friends you slept with her. And then your friends were like "Ugh, no way! Did you really hit that?" And then you were like, "uhhhhh ... I'm not saying anything." They'd give you a hard time about banging the fat chick for as long as you knew them.

stillers4me
09-09-2009, 05:42 PM
Hey, I don't know you personally, so I don't have any reason to doubt it, so it must be true.

I said so, so it must be true. :noidea:

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 05:53 PM
I said so, so it must be true. :noidea:

I believe you! But then, I believe everybody! :chuckle:

steelpride12
09-09-2009, 05:56 PM
I just think this whole thing is blown out of proportion. She is a profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilter, Ben Screwed her, but didn't rape and or beat.

WindyCitySteelerFan
09-09-2009, 06:05 PM
Oh McNutty.... Crazy train!

SteelTalons
09-09-2009, 06:11 PM
OK, Preach - myself, Jessica Alba, and Megan Fox had a three-way. Believe me?

That explains where they were! :banging:

I was wondering where they were at, Angelina Jolie, Halle Berry, and myself had to go it alone that night. :pde:

SteelTalons
09-09-2009, 06:13 PM
No, no, you guys got it backwards. It's more like if some fat chick came up and told all your friends you slept with her. And then your friends were like "Ugh, no way! Did you really hit that?" And then you were like, "uhhhhh ... I'm not saying anything." They'd give you a hard time about banging the fat chick for as long as you knew them.

Friends and Lawsuits aren't the same thing though.

SteelCityMan786
09-09-2009, 06:19 PM
This is showing more and more that the nut's case is dying. This is a cry for help.

steelreserve
09-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Friends and Lawsuits aren't the same thing though.

I know. I'm not saying it means he raped her or did anything wrong. I'm saying it's just funny that he probably banged her.

Preacher
09-09-2009, 06:24 PM
OK, Preach - myself, Jessica Alba, and Megan Fox had a three-way. Believe me?

You've said that before, and I have answered it before. It has no association with what we are discussing here.

The basic issue here is that she seems to be manipulating a situation for gain... not fabricating a situation. The elements in her story do not point to fabrication. They point to manipulation.

What you are doing, is fabricating a story based on nothing plausible. Meanwhile, she did work at the hotel, did interact with him, and has a 50/50 chance of being in the room for some reason. None of that makes her rape story plausible, nor her sleeping with him absolute... they do however serve as foundational reasons why I reject your assertions of a 3-way as a fabrication (you had no documented time by which you were in their vicinity and had access to their room) and accept hers as a possible manipulation.

Then, I move on to other assessments. But that is the foundational "smell test" which your story doesn't pass and hers does.

43Hitman
09-09-2009, 06:30 PM
You've said that before, and I have answered it before. It has no association with what we are discussing here.

The basic issue here is that she seems to be manipulating a situation for gain... not fabricating a situation. The elements in her story do not point to fabrication. They point to manipulation.

What you are doing, is fabricating a story based on nothing plausible. Meanwhile, she did work at the hotel, did interact with him, and has a 50/50 chance of being in the room for some reason. None of that makes her rape story plausible, nor her sleeping with him absolute... they do however serve as foundational reasons why I reject your assertions of a 3-way as a fabrication (you had no documented time by which you were in their vicinity and had access to their room) and accept hers as a possible manipulation.

Then, I move on to other assessments. But that is the foundational "smell test" which your story doesn't pass and hers does.

Nice critical thinking skills there Preach! :hatsoff:

fansince'76
09-09-2009, 06:39 PM
(you had no documented time by which you were in their vicinity and had access to their room)

Hey, those two came to MY room! And I've been in counseling over it ever since. :toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

devilsdancefloor
09-09-2009, 06:46 PM
Hey, those two came to MY room! And I've been in counseling over it ever since. :toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

i suppose both of them "fix your antenna" so your TV work :nw: :nw: :nw:

SteelTalons
09-09-2009, 06:46 PM
Hey, those two came to MY room! And I've been in counseling over it ever since. :toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Preacher
09-09-2009, 07:33 PM
Hey, those two came to MY room! And I've been in counseling over it ever since. :toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

Ok.

I'll leave it alone. I do think you absolutely get my point though.

HometownGal
09-09-2009, 08:28 PM
He was in Nevada, their are better looking women around than that, and if your desperate there are still much better looking hookers than that swamp moose squirrel thing than the hotel drug out of the desert. :doh:

Or - if he had the horn going on, God didn't give him a hand just to throw footballs or write with. :chuckle:

TackleMeBen
09-09-2009, 08:36 PM
Or - if he had the horn going on, God didn't give him a hand just to throw footballs or write with. :chuckle:
thanks htg, now i am cleaning my water up from the computer..lol. i cant believe you said that.. :rofl:

btw, has anyone heard anything about a new judge, i read it this afternoon that this will be the third judge in this case?

SteelTalons
09-09-2009, 08:40 PM
Or - if he had the horn going on, God didn't give him a hand just to throw footballs or write with. :chuckle:

I know right... And he's got two of them! Thats like a three-some, ya know?!

C'mon Ben you can do better than that, have some self respect man. :chuckle:

SteelersMongol
09-09-2009, 09:49 PM
What a bunch of horse sh*t is this? Her lawyer & she can get a room & finish with it.

stb_steeler
09-09-2009, 10:32 PM
That crap is illegal in most states for a reason.

That stuffs been known to kill people.....:tombstone

mesaSteeler
09-09-2009, 11:17 PM
Lawyer: Accuser allegedly told roommate, friends that Roethlisberger raped her
http://www.rgj.com/article/20090909/NEWS/90909026/1049/SPORTS02&OAS_sitepage=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

BY MARTHA BELLISLE • mbellisle@rgj.com • September 9, 2009

Soon after the Harrah’s Lake Tahoe worker was allegedly raped by Pittsburgh Steeler’s quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, she told her roommate about the incident, and months later told several of her friends, her lawyer said in a motion filed Wednesday.
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Andrea McNulty appeared “shocked” by the alleged attack, according to Wyle Cordes, who was her roommate at the time, and she said “she was worried that she might have caught a disease from Mr. Roethlisberger and was worried that she might be pregnant...,” her lawyer, Cal Dunlap, said in an opposition to a motion to dismiss the case.

McNulty also told “Ben the Soldier,” a man with whom she was having an Internet relationship, that her subsequent emotional collapse was not because they broke up, but because of a “secret” that she said she kept to herself.

“I just want you to understand that it wasn’t just all because of us that sent me spiraling,” she said in a Jan. 5 e-mail to the soldier. “I didn’t lose 30 pounds because of us. I have an experience that I will take with me to the grave, and I am okay now but it hurt and it kept playing over and over in my head.

“I finally snapped.”

The soldier later turned out to be a hoax, which sent her further into depression, the document said.

McNulty said in her lawsuit that she became distraught and was hospitalized because of the alleged sexual assault, but Roethlisberger’s lawyers have suggested in motions that McNulty’s emotional problems were the result of the soldier hoax.

McNulty filed the civil suit against Roethlisberger in July, claiming he had lured her to his hotel room while visiting for a celebrity golf tournament, and raped her. The suit also names eight Harrah’s employees and managers, whom she said covered up the alleged assault.

Roethlisberger has denied the claims, and his lawyers filed a motion to dismiss the case in August, which was supported by e-mails and affidavits that suggested McNulty was excited about having sex with Roethlisberger, and had joked about having his baby.

McNulty said in the suit that she told Harrah’s security chief, Guy Hyder, about the alleged rape, but in Roethlisberger’s motion, Hyder denied those claims, and said McNulty bragged about the alleged sexual encounter.

In his opposition, Dunlap said McNulty had sought support after the alleged rape with a number of people, including a psychiatrist she was seeing in December 2008, her friend Becky Bullard, and the doctor at Harrah’s Lake Tahoe Health and Wellness Clinic.

Dunlap also said McNulty told her friend, Stacy Dingman, that she had been sexually assaulted, a claim Dingman denied.

SteelerEmpire
09-09-2009, 11:38 PM
This woman is sick. She needs help..... no seriously... But whats so bad is that her attorney needs help also. WHO in the world would even consider further pursuit of this case ??? MADNESS..... first class.....

mesaSteeler
09-10-2009, 12:05 AM
Accuser's lawyer wants list of Roethlisberger's sexual partners
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/print_642352.html
By Jason Cato
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, September 10, 2009

A lawyer for a Nevada casino worker accusing Ben Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her last year at a Lake Tahoe resort wants a list of every woman the Steelers quarterback has slept with and any who have claimed sexual misconduct on his part.

Reno attorney Calvin Dunlap filed the request late Tuesday as part of a court filing opposing motions to have the civil lawsuit dismissed. Dunlap also requested, among other things, Roethlisberger's telephone and e-mail records and for him to undergo psychiatric and physical examinations. His lawyers have suggested the same for his accuser, calling her "disturbed and calculating" and a "sex addict."

Dunlap declined to comment beyond the court filing.

On Wednesday, Roethlisberger's attorney, David Cornwell of Atlanta, rejected an offer by the woman to drop the lawsuit on the condition Roethlisberger admit to the sexual assault, give a written apology and donate $100,000 to charity.

"Her proposal is bizarre, and it insults women who have legitimately suffered from sexual misconduct," Cornwell said in a statement. "We will not participate in a destructive farce."

Cornwell couldn't be reached for further comment.

Last month, Roethlisberger's lawyers offered to pay the woman's legal fees and to not sue her if she cooperated in a case against Dunlap, whom they accused of knowingly filing a frivolous lawsuit.

The woman claims Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her July 11, 2008, at the Harrah's Lake Tahoe Hotel and Casino, where she worked as a VIP concierge. Roethlisberger was staying at the hotel while attending a celebrity golf tournament.

The Tribune-Review doesn't name alleged victims of sexual assault.

The lawsuit also accuses several Harrah's employees of participating in a cover-up scheme.

Roethlisberger has denied sexually assaulting the woman. His lawyers filed court documents stating that she boasted to co-workers about having sex with the football star and fantasizing about having his child.

Dunlap's latest court filing refuted those claims, saying his client obtained a "morning-after pill" to end any unwanted pregnancy. Dunlap also told a judge that he has a note from a Harrah's doctor indicating he was aware of the woman's claim and had inquired to see if there was a "corporate obligation" to report such an incident.

Jason Cato can be reached at jcato@tribweb.com or 412-320-7840.

X-Terminator
09-10-2009, 01:04 AM
Well, it's looking like the full-court press is on. This is about to get really messy.

Preacher
09-10-2009, 01:18 AM
Well, it's looking like the full-court press is on. This is about to get really messy.

Yep. Messy and ugly. And no one will come out of this good.

tony hipchest
09-10-2009, 01:23 AM
Well, it's looking like the full-court press is on. This is about to get really messy.

Yep. Messy and ugly. And no one will come out of this good.
dont buy into these desperate, last ditch efforts by the nuts attn's. they are simply grasping at straws in a pathetic attempt to save face.

this shit is about to be buried as opposed to getting messy.

anyone think ben is gonna reveal a "list" of the hunnerds of women he has porked?. :pig:

Steelers & I
09-10-2009, 02:51 AM
No. I believe he has sex with her because the core of the story sounding like someone who had mutual sex, and then tried to blow it up to rape.

And unless you know her personally, where does she make stuff up outside of this case? It was somebody else who made up the online boyfriend, then presented it to her as real. That is fraudulent on the other person's part, not make-believe on hers.

For me, it is the only thing that makes sense here, because those claims of "I am not on the pill-- that's ok, I will pull out" and "going into the bathroom" are too damaging otherwise.

Just because he is my QB doesn't mean I am going to ignore that part of the story either.

I'm with you on this one Preacher. I too believe that Roethlisberger had consensual sex with her. Now I don't expect for Ben to come right out and admit it because, first of all it would be embarassing for him to confess to sleeping with such a DOG! Second of all it would probably ruin the relationship that he has with his current girlfriend.

I also understand why he hasn't denied it. Hell he's probably thinking that this crazy woman may have kept her underwear or the bed sheets from that night which would probably contain Bens' DNA, Monica Lewinsky anyone? So if Ben were to come out and deny " having sexual relations with that woman", she could then produce her evidence containing Bens' DNA. At that point Ben is hung. If Ben were forced to recant his previous denial, it would only strengthen her case.

So yes, I fully understand and believe in your assumptions on this matter.

steeltheone
09-10-2009, 08:42 AM
I'm so glad she did this. What an idiot.

Edman
09-10-2009, 09:12 AM
I'm still looking for any shred of evidence or factual proof. Which has not been presented ONCE yet. McNutty's lawyer is going out for the biggest judge of them all, the public. I mean come on, he may be a retard, but he's still a lawyer.

TackleMeBen
09-10-2009, 09:14 AM
does anyone know the chances of him having to release a list of girls he has banged?

tunes4life
09-10-2009, 09:47 AM
OK, Preach - myself, Jessica Alba, and Megan Fox had a three-way. Believe me?

ooof, my two favorites in one sentence! Jessica and Megan both haunt my dreams.

Vis
09-10-2009, 11:20 AM
does anyone know the chances of him having to release a list of girls he has banged?

What are the odds he knows who's on the list?

LadyVader
09-10-2009, 11:27 AM
anyone think ben is gonna reveal a "list" of the hunnerds of women he has porked?. :pig:


there isn't enough ink on the paper to list them all

TackleMeBen
09-10-2009, 11:29 AM
What are the odds he knows who's on the list?
i posted on another board, i doubt he could name them all. :chuckle:

Vis
09-10-2009, 11:49 AM
i posted on another board, i doubt he could name them all. :chuckle:

Anybody here want to fess up to being one of them? Ladies?

steelreserve
09-10-2009, 11:57 AM
A lawyer for a Nevada casino worker accusing Ben Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her last year at a Lake Tahoe resort wants a list of every woman the Steelers quarterback has slept with and any who have claimed sexual misconduct on his part.

Translation: I don't have a case, and since dragging it out and making it expensive didn't work, now I'm going to try to coax a settlement out of you by dragging it out and making it publicly embarrassing.

I still stand by my previous comment that I hope her lawyer dies by breaking his neck trying to suck his own dick.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-10-2009, 12:15 PM
does anyone know the chances of him having to release a list of girls he has banged?

Slim and None.

It's a civil case, the police cannot come to his home and seize anything for evidence. And there is no way in hell that Ben Roethlisberger is going to hand over the names, addresses, and phone numbers of girls he has dated/banged.

If his lawyer wants this information, he better get out some phone books and make random calls to people hoping to get lucky to find a jaded ex-gf of Ben's.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-10-2009, 12:21 PM
Translation: I don't have a case, and since dragging it out and making it expensive didn't work, now I'm going to try to coax a settlement out of you by dragging it out and making it publicly embarrassing.

I still stand by my previous comment that I hope her lawyer dies by breaking his neck trying to suck his own dick.

When it comes out that he didn't do his job to research and make sure that there's a good chance the sexual assault actually happened before he officially took the case....he will lose his license to practice law in the State of Nevada and his application in any other state in the country will be denied because of this.

With it not being a criminal case, he wasn't obliged to take the case due to laws saying that any criminal complaint of sexual assault/rape must be taken to the courts.

He simply saw dollar signs when she brought her case to him and he didn't care if it was true or not....he figured he could bully Big Ben into settling the case.

Well Ben Roethlisberger isn't afraid afraid of 350-400 lbs. offensive lineman, why is he going to be scared of a cash grab lawyer?

TackleMeBen
09-10-2009, 03:22 PM
Anybody here want to fess up to being one of them? Ladies?
like some one said, i dont they are just going to come out and say they slept with him. they probably dont want the media camping out in their lawn.

Psyychoward86
09-10-2009, 04:05 PM
lol, what a tool.

MACH1
09-10-2009, 04:10 PM
Slim and None.

It's a civil case, the police cannot come to his home and seize anything for evidence. And there is no way in hell that Ben Roethlisberger is going to hand over the names, addresses, and phone numbers of girls he has dated/banged.

If his lawyer wants this information, he better get out some phone books and make random calls to people hoping to get lucky to find a jaded ex-gf of Ben's.

He will if it's court ordered.

TackleMeBen
09-10-2009, 04:30 PM
He will if it's court ordered.
the attorneys will have a PI on the case to investigate who he has been stooping

Hines0wnz
09-10-2009, 04:35 PM
He will if it's court ordered.

That would probably be unprecedented. Unless the presiding judge is named Lance Ito, I dont see that tactic going anywhere. Its nothing more than a move of desperation....which is the basis of the whole case.

TackleMeBen
09-10-2009, 04:46 PM
oh well of course they can ask and they will put a pi on it anyway.

they are going to investiage everything about him and his sex life.

i don't see a court order but they can do more on their own w/the PI

steelreserve
09-10-2009, 05:27 PM
oh well of course they can ask and they will put a pi on it anyway.

they are going to investiage everything about him and his sex life.

i don't see a court order but they can do more on their own w/the PI

My sister says that since they have no case and this lawyer is working on contingency, if he hires a PI, it's coming out of his own pocket.

I doubt he'll have the balls to do that -- or more like he ought to have enough sense not to, since it's just throwing good money after bad. But if he wants to do it ... OK, knock yourself out, big guy. I don't care if you waste your own cash.

fansince'76
09-10-2009, 05:34 PM
Unless the presiding judge is named Lance Ito, I dont see that tactic going anywhere.

I would be interested to see what kind of judge would actually allow this baseless charade to continue to a full-blown trial and delay other cases which, you know, actually have merit.

Godfather
09-11-2009, 12:09 AM
She wants to make the names of all of Ben's partners public.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09253/997029-66.stm

I've felt we should take the high road on this and attack her story on its merits instead of trying to discredit her with unrelated character attacks. But after she pulled this I don't care. She should be fair game for anything.

I don't know if he's hooked up with any groupies, or how many if he did, but they shouldn't have their names made public. There's something fundamentally wrong with that.

This is probably just the latest cash grab--they're hoping Ben settles to protect the innocent women from being dragged into this.

HometownGal
09-11-2009, 12:13 AM
OMFG - this little hobag is a nutjob. :screwy:

Well - Ben's attorneys could ask for all of the names of her sex partners, but they'd have to confiscate her computer and get more info from her blowup boy toy in her closet. :upyours:

Sorry hon - I have to move this to the most recent Ben thread, as football season has started and with all of these Ben/McNutty threads, the football forum is getting cluttered up and we're receiving complaints.

Godfather
09-11-2009, 12:33 AM
OMFG - this little hobag is a nutjob. :screwy:

Well - Ben's attorneys could ask for all of the names of her sex partners, but they'd have to confiscate her computer and get more info from her blowup boy toy in her closet. :upyours:

Sorry hon - I have to move this to the most recent Ben thread, as football season has started and with all of these Ben/McNutty threads, the football forum is getting cluttered up and we're receiving complaints.

That's OK. I just wanted that out there because it shows how low she's willing to stoop to shake Ben down. I looked for the big thread and couldn't find it.

mesaSteeler
09-11-2009, 08:14 AM
Roethlisberger's lawyer: Accuser sought millions from Harrah's
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_642551.html#
By Jason Cato, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, September 11, 2009
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A Nevada casino worker accusing Ben Roethlisberger of raping her sought nearly $3 million from Harrah's before suing the Steelers quarterback in July, according to a document released today by a Roethlisberger lawyer.

A document dated July 6 and intended to initiate a settlement with the casino behemoth sought nearly $375,000 in medical bills accrued while she sought psychiatric treatment and another $2.5 million for emotional distress and damage to her reputation. The woman also wanted all adverse information deleted from her personnel file at Harrah's Lake Tahoe Casino & Resort, where she still works.

Roethlisberger's lawyer, David Cornwell, has not filed the document with the Nevada courts.

Harrah's declined to comment.

The woman's attorney, Calvin Dunlap of Reno, also declined to comment except to explain that the document Cornwell made public is part of a federal "hostile work environment" claim his client is pursuing against Harrah's with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. The damages sought through that case have nothing to do with the lawsuit against Roethlisberger, Dunlap said.

The accuser claims Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her in July 2008 at the resort, where she was working as a VIP concierge and he was attending a celebrity golf tournament. The two-time Super Bowl champion lured the woman to the room to supposedly fix a faulty television sound system before forcing her to have sex, the lawsuit states.

The Tribune-Review does not identify alleged sexual assault victims.

The woman never reported the assault to police but filed a civil lawsuit in Nevada on July 17. Her lawsuit accuses Roethlisberger of sexual assault and several other claims. It also accuses several Harrah's employees of participating in a cover-up scheme.

Roethlisberger and the other defendants have denied the accusations

(I can't wait to we get to see all the "adverse information" in her employee file. There is no doubt that this only about money and a dirty lawyer. I don't believe anything this b*itch says. This McNutty is giving a whole new definition to the term wh*ore. - mesa)

HometownGal
09-11-2009, 08:18 AM
(I can't wait to we get to see all the "adverse information" in her employee file. There is no doubt that this only about money and a dirty lawyer. I don't believe anything this b*itch says. This McNutty is giving a whole new definition to the term wh*ore. - mesa)

You're absolutely right mesa. And Dunlap is giving a whole new definition to the term vampire. :mad:

She is going to be a mammoth laughing stock and hopefully her attorney is disbarred when this is all over.

TackleMeBen
09-11-2009, 08:30 AM
You're absolutely right mesa. And Dunlap is giving a whole new definition to the term vampire. :mad:

She is going to be a mammoth laughing stock and hopefully her attorney is disbarred when this is all over.

i have to agree with you HTG. and people want to know why the average joe thinks attorneys are dirty?? its bc of attys like this, that only see $$, and not seeing their job as trying to help the innocent or victims.

highly doubt a judge is going to let it become public record of all the girls ben has had relations with. and if you are one of them girls, i bet you are a little scared now that your name is going to be tied to this case.

mesaSteeler
09-11-2009, 08:50 AM
The technique that McNutty's scum lawyer is using is referred to as "green" mail and is a form of legalized blackmail. The plaintiff's lawyer identifies some perceived wrong and then sues every deep pocket in sight hoping for an out of court settlement.

"Justice" is not involved and all that matters is money.

As a civil engineer I have seen this before and have even had to given a deposition. It's no fun by the way.

It's a grave weakness in our tort system of justice. It's expensive to fight a lawsuit that it's cheaper to settle out of court than to fight. Now I know why McNutty wanted Ben to admit quilt and not pay any money.

McNutty's scumbag lawyer would have used that admission by Ben to "prove" a hostile work environment at the casino to try and force them to settle out of court.

The solution to stop greenmail would be to adopt the British rules of "loser pays". You bring a civil lawsuit and lose then you pay the court costs for not only yourself but for whoever you sued.

However that system would put scumbags like McNutty's lawyer out of work. That's why the American Trial Lawyer's Association is one of the most powerful and richest lobbies in Washington. They give large campaign donations to both parties to make sure we never adopt "loser pays".

Vis
09-11-2009, 10:32 AM
The technique that McNutty's scum lawyer is using is referred to as "green" mail and is a form of legalized blackmail. The plaintiff's lawyer identifies some perceived wrong and then sues every deep pocket in sight hoping for an out of court settlement.

"Justice" is not involved and all that matters is money.

As a civil engineer I have seen this before and have even had to given a deposition. It's no fun by the way.

It's a grave weakness in our tort system of justice. It's expensive to fight a lawsuit that it's cheaper to settle out of court than to fight. Now I know why McNutty wanted Ben to admit quilt and not pay any money.

McNutty's scumbag lawyer would have used that admission by Ben to "prove" a hostile work environment at the casino to try and force them to settle out of court.

The solution to stop greenmail would be to adopt the British rules of "loser pays". You bring a civil lawsuit and lose then you pay the court costs for not only yourself but for whoever you sued.

However that system would put scumbags like McNutty's lawyer out of work. That's why the American Trial Lawyer's Association is one of the most powerful and richest lobbies in Washington. They give large campaign donations to both parties to make sure we never adopt "loser pays".

Our system has 12(b)(6) motions to dismiss, summary judgments and offers of judgment to handle situations.

Godfather
09-11-2009, 01:44 PM
Legal question--is it possible for someone to file an amicus brief on behalf of Ben's (currently anonymous) partners, based on the fact that their identities are irrelevant and revealing their names would harm their reputation?

Godfather
09-11-2009, 01:47 PM
The technique that McNutty's scum lawyer is using is referred to as "green" mail and is a form of legalized blackmail. The plaintiff's lawyer identifies some perceived wrong and then sues every deep pocket in sight hoping for an out of court settlement.

"Justice" is not involved and all that matters is money.

As a civil engineer I have seen this before and have even had to given a deposition. It's no fun by the way.

It's a grave weakness in our tort system of justice. It's expensive to fight a lawsuit that it's cheaper to settle out of court than to fight. Now I know why McNutty wanted Ben to admit quilt and not pay any money.

McNutty's scumbag lawyer would have used that admission by Ben to "prove" a hostile work environment at the casino to try and force them to settle out of court.

The solution to stop greenmail would be to adopt the British rules of "loser pays". You bring a civil lawsuit and lose then you pay the court costs for not only yourself but for whoever you sued.

However that system would put scumbags like McNutty's lawyer out of work. That's why the American Trial Lawyer's Association is one of the most powerful and richest lobbies in Washington. They give large campaign donations to both parties to make sure we never adopt "loser pays".

In some states, if you turn down a reasonable settlement offer and then lose, you do have to pay the defendant's legal fees. If that's the case in Nevada (which I hope it is). McNutty's in trouble.

LadyVader
09-11-2009, 03:23 PM
Legal question--is it possible for someone to file an amicus brief on behalf of Ben's (currently anonymous) partners, based on the fact that their identities are irrelevant and revealing their names would harm their reputation?

they are going to paint ben as a womanizer and they won't need a list of names to do so

HAWK
09-11-2009, 04:55 PM
The woman who claims Ben Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her at a Nevada resort has offered to drop her civil lawsuit if he admits that the assault occurred and writes a letter of apology.


NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stillers4me
09-11-2009, 05:08 PM
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ain't gonna happen.

As we all saw last night, Ben has nerves of steel. He'll take this all the way if that is what it takes to clear his name.

And we all know what Ben is like in a clutch...........

Godfather
09-11-2009, 07:30 PM
they are going to paint ben as a womanizer and they won't need a list of names to do so

Doesn't do them much good to paint Ben as a womanizer. It has no bearing on the case, and given the common misconception that rape is about sex it makes him look even less guilty. It doesn't give them any leverage because womanizer sounds a lot better than rapist.

The only purpose this can possibly serve is they're hoping Ben settles to protect his partners from being publicly humiliated.

steelreserve
09-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Doesn't do them much good to paint Ben as a womanizer. It has no bearing on the case, and given the common misconception that rape is about sex it makes him look even less guilty. It doesn't give them any leverage because womanizer sounds a lot better than rapist.

Please try not to spew that feminist club "rape-is-about-power" garbage around like that. I know people have had that soundbite beaten into their heads often enough that a lot of them just accept it as fact ... but it's really doing a disservice to everyone to zero in on that as the root cause of every rape case everywhere, because that's just not true. I know it's a good way to make rape seem like an even more shocking problem, but what it really does is oversimplify the problem, and comes off as really condescending to any male who isn't a rapist.

fansince'76
09-11-2009, 07:47 PM
they are going to paint ben as a womanizer and they won't need a list of names to do so

So what? Her case has been blown out of the water already. Her shyster of a lawyer is just trying to save face at this point. It ain't working.

mesaSteeler
09-14-2009, 10:12 PM
Lawyer: Strike alleged rape victim's statement
Sep. 14, 2009
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12207654

CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - A lawyer for several Lake Tahoe hotel employees named in a civil suit that accuses Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of rape says the lawsuit and timing of events are the "cold, calculated vengeance of a woman scorned."

Margo Piscevich, in a motion filed Monday in Washoe District Court in Reno, further argues that the woman's affidavit, filed last week, is "nothing more or less than media grandstanding" and should be stricken from the court record.

In the same filing, she opposed an earlier motion by the woman's lawyer, Cal Dunlap, to amend his suit to name Harrah's corporate entity as a defendant.

Dunlap, who has repeatedly refused to comment on the case, could not be immediately reached Monday afternoon.

A VIP hostess at the Lake Tahoe hotel-casino, the woman filed her lawsuit in July, alleging the two-time Super Bowl winner assaulted her July 11, 2008, in his hotel penthouse while attending a celebrity golf tournament. The Associated Press, as a matter of policy, does not identify people who say they have been sexually assaulted.

The suit also names Harrah's President John Koster, security chief Guy Hyder, and six other current or former employees as defendants, alleging they orchestrated a cover-up of the incident.

The woman says she was repeatedly hospitalized for emotional distress in the weeks and months afterward. Her suit seeks a minimum of $440,000 in damages from Roethlisberger, at least $50,000 in damages from the Harrah's officials and an unspecified amount of punitive damages.

Roethlisberger has denied the allegation and his lawyers have suggested the woman is mentally unstable.

In her 54-page affidavit, the woman said Roethlisberger lured her to his suite, saying his television wasn't working properly, and assaulted her. She said she reported the incident to Hyder the next day, but that he insisted it was "no big deal" and never followed up with an investigation.

The woman never filed a criminal report with police, something advocates for sexual assault victims say is not uncommon.

But lawyers for Roethlisberger and the Harrah's defendants counter that e-mails contained in the court record from the woman to Hyder and others show she was infatuated with Roethlisberger and boasted of having sex with him.

The e-mails, Piscevich said in Monday's motions, tell the "whole pathetic story."

Piscevich said the chronology of events suggests the actions of a woman scorned.

After having sex with Roethlisberger in July 2008 and telling a friend, former Harrah's hotel director Stacy Dingman, that Roethlisberger is "hot," Roethlisberger then ignores her, Piscevich said.

In January, after the Steelers win the AFC Championship and prepare for the Super Bowl, she changes her story, telling Dingman that Roethlisberger assaulted her, Piscevich said in the motion.

Piscevich said the woman's suit was filed just as the NFL preseason was about to open, and that her affidavit was filed one day before the Steelers' 2009 opener last Thursday.

"The timing appears to be more than coincidence - it seems to be rather the cold, calculated vengeance of a woman scorned," Piscevich wrote.

Dingman's lawyers, in a separate motion filed Monday, argue the allegations against her lack merit and should be dismissed.

The woman alleges besides participating in the cover-up, Dingman told others at some point that the woman was treated for schizophrenia, attorney Dora Lane said.

Lane said Dingman denies the allegation, and attached an exhibit showing the accuser in late 2008 had been prescribed anti-psychotic medications that are used to treat schizophrenia, among other things.

Previous filings from Dunlap, the woman's lawyer, included medical records and notes from a doctor who in December 2008 concluded she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and had suffered hallucinations after she learned that a soldier she had been courting via the Internet turned out to be a hoax.

Later handwritten notes by the doctor in January 2009 include a notation, "describes a sexual assault that occurred last summer."
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stillers4me
09-14-2009, 10:52 PM
This chick is toast.

Her lawyer obviously has psychological issues against professional athletes stemming from always being the last kid picked for the kickball team during recess. :chuckle:

HometownGal
09-14-2009, 11:06 PM
Later handwritten notes by the doctor in January 2009 include a notation, "describes a sexual assault that occurred last summer."


Guess she got one over on the doctor too.

mesaSteeler
09-14-2009, 11:12 PM
Guess she got one over on the doctor too.

McNutty is psychotic. I'm sure the doctor was just reporting what she told him. That doesn't mean it happened that way she said it did.

HometownGal
09-14-2009, 11:13 PM
McNutty is psychotic. I'm sure the doctor was just reporting what she told him. That doesn't mean it happened that way she said it did.

Oh no doubt . . . just sayin'.

stillers4me
09-14-2009, 11:13 PM
McNutty is psychotic. I'm sure the doctor was just reporting what she told him. That doesn't mean it happened that way she said it did.

Correct, that was handwritten by the doctor in January of this year, the same time her friends said her story started changing. (most doctors these days do electronic transcribing). Anything handwritten may not be acceptable in court. Any good lawyer would claim that handwritten notes could be added at any time to change a patients record. All medical charts are legal court documents.



Previous filings from Dunlap, the woman's lawyer, included medical records and notes from a doctor who in December 2008 concluded she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and had suffered hallucinations after she learned that a soldier she had been courting via the Internet turned out to be a hoax.

mesaSteeler
09-14-2009, 11:23 PM
Correct, that was handwritten by the doctor in January of this year, the same time her friends said her story started changing. (most doctors these days do electronic transcribing). Anything handwritten may not be acceptable in court. Any good lawyer would claim that handwritten notes could be added at any time to change a patients record. All medical charts are legal court documents.

Excellent point! Well stated.

Galax Steeler
09-15-2009, 05:31 AM
I would love to see her get burnt on this. If anyone deserves it she does. There is more holes in her story then a strainer. I just hope the truth comes out and Ben can clear his name.

LadyVader
09-15-2009, 01:09 PM
all of this is fluff and this case will proceed with depositions early next year.

plenty of cases have holes in it that's why a jury will decide, it comes down to a she said he said and who will make a better witness. and its a civil case all she needs is the majority not a unanimous decision.

she has a good attorney and the judge isn't going to let all this drivel in. they will have hearings to decide what gets in.
this is a very long process
ben is in for a lot of drama

Vis
09-15-2009, 01:26 PM
and its a civil case all she needs is the majority not a unanimous decision.



Wrong.... Nevada's Constitution requires 3/4 in civil cases.

TackleMeBen
09-15-2009, 01:40 PM
cant we just send harrison and woodley out there to take care of this whackjob and her money grubbing atty??? i will pay for the airplane tickets..:wink02:

steelreserve
09-15-2009, 02:21 PM
That's a good point. I've heard that some states have a law where if you can tackle the plaintiff, the case is dismissed. I wonder if Nevada is one of them.

stillers4me
09-15-2009, 05:03 PM
That's a good point. I've heard that some states have a law where if you can tackle the plaintiff, the case is dismissed. I wonder if Nevada is one of them.

Troy should be 100% by then.

Preacher
09-16-2009, 04:11 AM
(Mods... I looked for this story, and couldn't find it already posted. Seems like more info., so I started a new thread. Feel free to merge em if you feel it necessary. )

CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) A lawyer for several Lake Tahoe hotel employees named in a civil suit that accuses Pittsburgh Steelers (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Organizations/Sports+Leagues/NFL/Pittsburgh+Steelers) quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/People/Athletes/NFL/Ben+Roethlisberger) (FSY) (http://fantasysports.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=1181) of rape says the lawsuit and timing of events are the "cold, calculated vengeance of a woman scorned."
Margo Piscevich, in a motion filed Monday in Washoe District Court in Reno, further argues that Andrea McNulty's affidavit, filed last week, is "nothing more or less than media grandstanding" and should be stricken from the court record.
In the same filing, she opposed an earlier motion by the McNulty's lawyer, Cal Dunlap, to amend his suit to name Harrah's corporate entity as a defendant.
Dunlap, who has repeatedly refused to comment on the case, could not be immediately reached Monday afternoon.
A VIP hostess at the Lake Tahoe hotel-casino, McNulty filed her lawsuit in July, alleging the two-time Super Bowl winner assaulted her July 11, 2008, in his hotel penthouse while attending a celebrity golf tournament.
The suit also names Harrah's president John Koster, security chief Guy Hyder, and six other current or former employees as defendants, alleging they orchestrated a cover-up of the incident.
McNulty says she was repeatedly hospitalized for emotional distress in the weeks and months afterward. Her suit seeks a minimum of $440,000 in damages from Roethlisberger, at least $50,000 in damages from the Harrah's officials and an unspecified amount of punitive damages.
Roethlisberger has denied the allegation and his lawyers have suggested McNulty is mentally unstable.
In her 54-page affidavit, McNulty said Roethlisberger lured her to his suite, saying his television wasn't working properly, and assaulted her. She said she reported the incident to Hyder the next day, but that he insisted it was "no big deal" and never followed up with an investigation.
McNulty never filed a criminal report with police, something advocates for sexual assault victims say is not uncommon.
But lawyers for Roethlisberger and the Harrah's defendants counter that e-mails contained in the court record from McNulty to Hyder and others show she was infatuated with Roethlisberger and boasted of having sex with him.
The e-mails, Piscevich said in Monday's motions, tell the "whole pathetic story."
Piscevich said the chronology of events suggests the actions of a woman scorned.
After having sex with Roethlisberger in July 2008 and telling a friend, former Harrah's hotel director Stacy Dingman, that Roethlisberger is "hot," Roethlisberger then ignores her, Piscevich said.
In January, after the Steelers win the AFC Championship and prepare for the Super Bowl, she changes her story, telling Dingman that Roethlisberger assaulted her, Piscevich said in the motion.
Piscevich said McNulty's suit was filed just as the NFL (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/National+Football+League) preseason was about to open, and that her affidavit was filed one day before the Steelers' 2009 opener last Thursday.
"The timing appears to be more than coincidence it seems to be rather the cold, calculated vengeance of a woman scorned," Piscevich wrote.
Dingman's lawyers, in a separate motion filed Monday, argue the allegations against her lack merit and should be dismissed.
McNulty alleges besides participating in the cover-up, Dingman told others at some point that McNulty was treated for schizophrenia, attorney Dora Lane said.
Lane said Dingman denies the allegation, and attached an exhibit showing the accuser in late 2008 had been prescribed anti-psychotic medications that are used to treat schizophrenia, among other things.
Previous filings from Dunlap, McNulty's lawyer, included medical records and notes from a doctor who in December 2008 concluded she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and had suffered hallucinations after she learned that a soldier she had been courting via the Internet turned out to be a hoax.
Later handwritten notes by the doctor in January 2009 include a notation, "describes a sexual assault that occurred last summer."
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2009-09-14-roethlisberger-accuser-update_N.htm?csp=34

This is turning out more and more to be EXACTLY what I thought it was.

First, You gotta believe Ben's lawyers and the hotel's lawyers are working together. So the "woman scorned" is a fascinating angle.

Second, here is the first evidence of what I was saying, some kind of psychotic break with reality. Come to find out, it actually may be schizophrenia.

Third. The change in story while Ben is getting more stardom and she is getting scorned... and her make-believe boyfriend turns out to be, make-believe. Notice when the psychotic break happens.

All of this really is starting to pointing to a mentally ill woman that is being taken advantage of by a lawyer. Where did ethics go?

steelwalls
09-16-2009, 07:23 AM
Funny how all these 'break downs' come with the chance of getting loads of money.... Sorry Preach I still dont buy it.....

Edit:

Let me add Ive been through a crap load more horrific shyte than Andrea McNulty (or whatever her name is) I never lost touch with reality, I would never "imagine' something horrible happened to me. All I can say is stop looking for the good (or excuse) in some people, sometimes it's just not there.

steelax04
09-16-2009, 10:18 AM
Sounds like McNulty's lawyer is the next Mike Nifong...

RoethlisBURGHer
09-16-2009, 11:24 AM
Where did ethics go? The guy is a lawyer, he threw ethics out when he decided to go to law school.

As far as McNutty's mental state, she very well might be mentally ill. Or she might just be someone who wanted a relationship with Roethlisberger and is pissed that he shot her down. Hell, it might be both.

I hope that when she loses this case, Ben Roethlisberger and Harrah's goes after her and her lawyer and puts them both under.

TackleMeBen
09-16-2009, 01:09 PM
you know what they say.. there is nothing like a woman scorned.

CPanther95
09-16-2009, 01:16 PM
Ben's lawyer should issue a statement saying that the only reason Ben ignored her the next day was because she was a lousy lay.

steelreserve
09-16-2009, 01:18 PM
Lane said Dingman denies the allegation, and attached an exhibit showing the accuser in late 2008 had been prescribed anti-psychotic medications that are used to treat schizophrenia, among other things.

I've read that something like 95% of falsely reported rapes involve a "victim" that's either bipolar or schizophrenic. So it was really just a matter of time before this inevitably came out.

SteelerFanInStl
09-16-2009, 01:21 PM
Pretty much what I figured from the start.

MACH1
09-16-2009, 01:22 PM
Must of been mind blowing sex. :chuckle:

All she's after is the $$$

memphissteelergirl
09-16-2009, 01:37 PM
Ben's lawyer should issue a statement saying that the only reason Ben ignored her the next day was because she was a lousy lay.

:toofunny::rofl::toofunny::rofl:

LVSteelersfan
09-16-2009, 01:45 PM
I've had to deal with a couple of schizophrenics in the past. The things they come up with can be pretty outlandish. She probably had some fantasy about sitting in the stands like Jessica Simpson (although she looks more like Marge Simpson) as Ben's girlfriend and when it didn't happen she went over the deep end. That whole thing about being in love with a fictitious soldier is pathetic if it is really true. Her illusions of grandeur and the lack of it happening sent her into a schizoid state.

TackleMeBen
09-16-2009, 01:55 PM
She probably had some fantasy about sitting in the stands like Jessica Simpson (although she looks more like Marge Simpson) as Ben's girlfriend

he probably didnt anyone to know that he hit that if he did.lol

OX1947
09-16-2009, 02:19 PM
you know what they say.. there is nothing like a woman scorned.

"Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned."

Unless of course you shoot her, then you end the problem right away. Just ask Phil Spector.

CPanther95
09-16-2009, 02:25 PM
That whole thing about being in love with a fictitious soldier is pathetic if it is really true.

Yes it's true, her fiance is G.I. Joe.

She claims that they were happy when he was a 6" plastic action figure (with Kung Fu Grip! ). Once he became a major motion picture star, he hasn't contacted her at all.

All of McNulty's personalities have joined together in a class action suit against Hasbro, Paramount Pictures and GI Joe for alienation of affection.

robzombie813
09-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Wow. The more I hear of this, the more I'm getting a mental picture of a boiling bunny. Anybody else feel like that?

pancake
09-16-2009, 02:32 PM
Sad thing is, they said on TV that this could drag out for a year...

AllD
09-16-2009, 03:15 PM
She can compete with Heather Mills for most hated and crazy female in the last few years.

HometownGal
09-16-2009, 03:33 PM
Sorry, Father, but there are multiple threads on this ridiculous and defamatory lawsuit, so I am going to merge this with one of the more recent threads on the topic.

NOTE: Please folks - don't start any further new threads on this topic. Please post any new articles, thoughts, etc. in the already existing thread. The Steelers season has started and I don't want this lawsuit taking away from football discussion on this board.

I'm also going to "sticky" this in the Steelers forum.

Thanks.

mesaSteeler
09-16-2009, 05:53 PM
Judge refuses to move Roethlisberger case
Wednesday, September 16, 2009
The Associated Press

CARSON CITY, Nev. - A judge has denied a motion to move the civil sexual assault case against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and Lake Tahoe casino employees from Reno to Douglas County.

Washoe District Judge Brent Adams in Reno today ruled that one of the named defendants, Harrah's Lake Tahoe executive Dave Monroe, has residences in both Douglas and Washoe counties and therefore Reno was a proper venue.

Judge Adams also said there's no reason to believe an impartial jury cannot be found in Washoe County or that moving the case would serve the interest of justice.

A 31-year-old Harrah's VIP hostess accuses the two-time Super Bowl winner of raping her in his penthouse suite July 2008.

The suit also alleges eight former or current Harrah's employees orchestrated a cover-up of the incident.

Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
First published on September 16, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09259/998512-100.stm#ixzz0RJDVWPCP

Preacher
09-16-2009, 06:52 PM
Sorry, Father, but there are multiple threads on this ridiculous and defamatory lawsuit, so I am going to merge this with one of the more recent threads on the topic.
.
No prob.

It was new information of a sort... but I also understand, especially with the start of the year, how it could really clog up the forums...

Can we get a "I hate Arians" and a "I hate WIllie" sticky too? :chuckle:

mesaSteeler
09-16-2009, 07:31 PM
No prob.

It was new information of a sort... but I also understand, especially with the start of the year, how it could really clog up the forums...

Can we get a "I hate Arians" and a "I hate WIllie" sticky too? :chuckle:

Hmmm you forgot a I hate Tomlin, I hate Speath, etc. etc., .... Let's just make it easy and sticky just an "I hate" thread.

steelreserve
09-16-2009, 07:37 PM
Can we get a "I hate Arians" and a "I hate WIllie" sticky too? :chuckle:

Well, I have no say over that, but at least I can give you this:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/capt_taco/parker-sucks-sign-1.jpg


always trying to be helpful around here.

mesaSteeler
09-17-2009, 09:36 PM
QB's lawyer says rape allegation part of job fears
Sep. 17, 2009
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12223510

CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - Lawyers for Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said in court documents made available Thursday that the woman who has accused him of raping her at a Lake Tahoe hotel-casino concocted the story, in part, to try to shield herself from possible layoffs at the resort.

The woman fabricated the rape allegation against the two-time Super Bowl winner to try to prevent Harrah's Lake Tahoe from terminating her after she had taken prolonged bereavement leave, Roethlisberger's lawyers said.

The woman has said she was hospitalized for several months last fall because of trauma from the alleged July 11, 2008 attack by Roethlisberger.

The quarterback's lawyers have said the woman's emotional collapse had nothing to do with a rape but resulted from a failed relationship with a married man and then a long-distance relationship that turned out to be a hoax.

The 31-year-old VIP hostess filed a civil suit in July, alleging Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her in his penthouse suite while he was at Lake Tahoe the previous summer to compete in a celebrity golf tournament. The suit says she was hospitalized for several months because she was traumatized after the alleged attack.

Roethlisberger denies the allegation.

After the woman returned to work in November 2008, she received a reprimand after having an emotional public outburst, Roethlisberger's lawyers said in documents filed in Washoe District Court in Reno.

"Plaintiff realized at this point that her emotional condition would not serve as a shield from possible termination. This realization led plaintiff to concluded that she needed more," lawyers said in the documents.

A telephone message The Associated Press left with the woman's lawyer, Cal Dunlap, Thursday evening wasn't immediately returned.

The filing, made in support of the defense's motion to dismiss the lawsuit, included copies of e-mails from the woman allegedly to the long-distance beau.

"Lots and lots of people getting laid off and lots of downsizing and consolidating departments," she writes in one, dated Aug. 21, 2008. "My 'Yikes' e-mail is in reference to me heading into a meeting to find out whether or not I get to stay. I was given the opportunity to resign with a good severance package but the timing didn't seem right so I passed on it and took the chance that I would not be picked to be laid off."

The woman's suit seeks a minimum $440,000 in damages from Roethlisberger, unspecified punitive damages and at least $50,000 in damages from eight Harrah's officials she accuses of orchestrating a cover-up of the incident.

Her lawyers, however, have offered to settle the civil suit if Roethlisberger admits to the alleged rape, apologizes and gives $100,000 to a nonprofit agency that helps victims of domestic violence.

Copyright 2009 by STATS LLC and The Associated Press. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of STATS LLC and The Associated Press is strictly prohibited.

Preacher
09-17-2009, 09:39 PM
Well, I have no say over that, but at least I can give you this:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/capt_taco/parker-sucks-sign-1.jpg


always trying to be helpful around here.

:buttkick: :laughing:


Least you can have a sense of humor with it! Thanks!

mesaSteeler
09-17-2009, 09:49 PM
Roethlisberger's lawyer asks judge to punish accuser's counsel
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_643621.html
By Jason Cato, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, September 17, 2009
Last updated: 12:19 pm

Jason Cato can be reached via e-mail or at 412-320-7936.
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A lawyer for Ben Roethlisberger has asked a judge to punish the attorney representing a Nevada woman accusing the Steelers quarterback of rape, claiming he filed a frivolous lawsuit.

In a document filed Wednesday, attorney John Echeverria accused fellow Reno lawyer Calvin Dunlap, who represents the alleged victim, of not verifying the validity of the casino worker's accusations before filing a civil lawsuit in July. Roethlisberger's legal team threatened to file the complaint last month.

Nevada law "addresses the unfortunate fact that lawsuits, if not based on allegations supported by actual facts as opposed to fantasy and conjecture designed to stir emotion, will be used as destructive and slanderous weapons of oppression rather than instruments of truth and fair application of justice," Echeverria wrote.

"Unfortunately, plaintiff has welded together false allegations to punish her employer and coerce a windfall from an admired, civic-minded and successful professional football star."

Dunlap could not immediately be reached for comment.

The 31-year-old woman claims Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her July 11, 2008, at the Harrah's Lake Tahoe Hotel and Casino, where she worked as a VIP concierge. Roethlisberger was staying at the hotel while attending a celebrity golf tournament.

The Tribune-Review does not name alleged victims of sexual assault.

The lawsuit also accuses several Harrah's employees of participating in a cover-up and making false statements about the accuser.

Roethlisberger, 27, and the other defendants have denied the allegations.

Echeverria accused Dunlap of ignoring relevant evidence and using the lawsuit in an attempt to extort money from Harrah's and Roethlisberger.

"Plaintiff's attorney has the duty to not continue prosecuting claims when he becomes aware that his client has fabricated her allegations," Echeverria wrote.

The motion does not specify what sanctions are being sought.

Nevada law requires that "sanctions be limited to what is sufficient to deter repetition of such conduct or comparable conduct by others similarly situated." Judges can impose fines, order that legal fees be paid or make a non-monetary reprimand.

(Here's a sanction for you. Let's tie McNutty's lying green mailing SOB lawyer up by the heals and drag him behind a horse through a field of jumping Cholla cactus. Then leave the SOB out in desert for his next of kin, the buzzards, the rats, and the scorpions. - mesa)

steelreserve
09-18-2009, 03:22 PM
You know, based on the number of replies to news like this, I think most people don't know to look here for this thread now that it's sticky. They're probably skipping right over it, thinking it's part of the normal stickied announcements. I know I did that a few times; it's really easy to miss.

Texasteel
09-18-2009, 06:24 PM
(Here's a sanction for you. Let's tie McNutty's lying green mailing SOB lawyer up by the heals and drag him behind a horse through a field of jumping Cholla cactus. Then leave the SOB out in desert for his next of kin, the buzzards, the rats, and the scorpions. - mesa)

That is totally uncalled for. I have never seen a buzzard, rat, or scorpion I would lower to his level, and I live in Texas.

He should placed under house arrest, and forced to live with his client for the next 10 years.

mesaSteeler
09-18-2009, 06:44 PM
That is totally uncalled for. I have never seen a buzzard, rat, or scorpion I would lower to his level, and I live in Texas.

He should placed under house arrest, and forced to live with his client for the next 10 years.

You're right, I do owe buzzards, rats and scorpions an apology. You way is bettere except I would make him live with McNutty for the rest of his life.

Godfather
09-18-2009, 11:06 PM
Hmmm you forgot a I hate Tomlin, I hate Speath, etc. etc., .... Let's just make it easy and sticky just an "I hate" thread.

I like it. The official Chicken Little thread.

TackleMeBen
09-30-2009, 05:49 PM
Judge denies motion for dismissalCARSON CITY, Nev. -- A Nevada judge has denied motions by lawyers for Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger to dismiss a civil lawsuit filed by a Lake Tahoe casino worker who alleges he raped her in his penthouse suite in 2008.

Washoe District Judge Brent Adams rejected arguments that the suit should be dismissed, saying the woman's allegations make a "sufficient" claim that if proven, would entitle her to relief. The order was made available Wednesday.

Roethlisberger's lawyer David Cornwell says that despite the outcome, they are encouraged by the judge's reasoning.

Cornwell says the judge used a "generous" beyond a doubt standard to allow the woman her day in court.

He says the woman's allegations are false and Roethlisberger will pursue a "vigorous defense."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4520665

klick81
09-30-2009, 06:14 PM
Great. They're allowing this w-h-o-r-e bag her day on the podium.

TackleMeBen
09-30-2009, 06:20 PM
yeah it looks like it..

mesaSteeler
09-30-2009, 07:00 PM
Judge won't throw out rape suit vs. Ben Roethlisberger
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2009-09-30-ben-roethlisberger-case_N.htm

By Martha Bellisle, Reno Gazette-Journal
RENO — Saying the lawsuit filed by a Harrah's Lake Tahoe employee claiming Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger raped her was "not unnecessarily salacious or graphic," a judge has denied motions to dismiss the case.

In a batch of succinct orders released late Tuesday, Washoe District Judge Brent Adams also denied Roethlisberger's motion to throw out Andrea McNulty's claim that the NFL star committed fraud when he allegedly called her to his hotel room to fix his television during a celebrity golf tournament last year.

McNulty's suit said Roethlisberger lured her to his room and forced her to have sex, a claim he has denied.

And Adams denied Roethlisberber's request to speed up the sharing of information on the case.

Neither McNulty's nor Roethlisberger's lawyers could immediately be reached for comment.

In a related lawsuit, former Harrah's employee Alvaro Brito filed an amended complaint last week against Harrah's and its Lake Tahoe president, John Koster, claiming he was fired because he carded a woman who was having dinner with Roethlisberger during the tournament.

Brito was the assistant manager of the Cabo Wabo Cantina at Harrah's in July 2008 when Roethlisberger came in with the woman and two men, the suit said. Following company policy and state law, he asked to see the woman's ID, because she appeared to be underage, but they refused, and instead allegedly mocked his accent and verbally abused him, the suit said.

He called security, but they were unable to come to the restaurant, so Brito tried again, the suit said.

"This time, the man later identified as Roethlisberger handed the woman's ID to Mr. Brito," the suit said. "The ID indicated that the woman was 27 years of age."

Brito thanked Roethlisberger, the suit said, and went on with his duties.

"Later," the suit said, "Roethlisberger approached Mr. Brito at the entrance of Cabo and asked him if he knew John Koster, the president of Harrah's."

Brito confirmed that he knew Koster, the suit said, and then Roethlisberger "said that he was a good friend of Koster and that he would be speaking to Koster about Mr. Brito." Brito was later told that Koster and Roethlisberger were golf partners.

Days later, Brito was told that he was "suspended" because of "what happened" with Roethlisberger. Then on July 15, 2008, Brito was called by employee relations and told he had been fired because of the "incident on Monday, July 7, 2008, with the Roethlisberger group."

McNulty had said in her lawsuit that she had heard about Brito's firing, and feared going to the police about Roethlisberger because she thought Koster would protect him, and that she, too, would be fired.

Based on what "Koster had done to the waitress and manager at Cabo Wabo," she said she knew that "John Koster and (security chief) Guy Hyder would protect Ben Roethlisberger and the company rather than supporting a police investigation."

The Reno Gazette-Journal is owned by Gannett, parent company of USA TODAY

mesaSteeler
09-30-2009, 07:26 PM
Court denies several motions in Roethlisberger case (Florio legal analysis)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/legal/
Posted by Mike Florio on September 30, 2009 4:16 PM ET

On Tuesday, the judge presiding over the sexual assault civil suit filed against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger issued rulings on various pending motions.

And, for the most part, the rulings favored the plaintiff.

The Court denied Roethlisberger's motion to dismiss a fraud claim arising from the allegation that he lured the plaintiff, an employee of Harrah's, into his hotel room by claiming that his television wasn't working. In a one-page ruling (most of which was taken up by the caption of the multi-defendant lawsuit), the judge found that the allegations "are sufficient to state a claim upon which relief could be granted." The Court also pointed out that a motion to dismiss "is only proper where it appears beyond doubt that the plaintiff could prove no set of facts which if true, would entitle [her] to relief."

The Court also denied Roethlisberger's motion to dismiss the case based on the plaintiff's failure to sue Harrah's directly, finding that the claims against Roethlisberger are independent of any other claims the plaintiff might or might not make. (The plaintiff has since filed a motion to amend the complaint to add Harrah's as a defendant.)

Moreover, the Court denied a motion from Roethlisberger to expedite the pre-trial discovery process, and a motion to strike the complaint based on the argument that the allegations are too salacious and graphic.

The only good news for any of the defendants was that a motion to dismiss the claims against defendant Stacy Dingman, a former co-worker of the plaintiff's, was granted in part as to a trespass claim asserted against Dingman. The Court also required the plaintiff to provide more specificity as to a claim of civil conspiracy. But the Court denied a motion from Dingman to dismiss four other claims, including intentional infliction of emotional distress, defamation, invasion of privacy, and a claim for punitive damages.

Despite the fact that all of the motions filed by Roethlisberger failed, his legal team is taking a glass-half-full approach to the language of the Court's orders.

"Notwithstanding the result," lawyer David Cornwell said in a statement released to PFT, "we are encouraged by the Court's specific reference to the standard by which it considered the motions. Finding that the plaintiff survived this round because of a generous 'beyond [a] doubt' standard indicates that, at these early stages, the Court is inclined to give plaintiff her day in court. Of course, this cuts both ways.

"In any event," the statement concluded, "her allegations remain false and we remain committed to a vigorous defense."

And so the case eventually will proceed, with a trial date established and various deadlines set for pre-trial maneuverings. At some point after depositions are taken (that's not an angel getting his wings -- that's the lawyers' cash registers churning), Roethlisberger and the other parties will file "motions for summary judgment," a tool for challenging the legal validity of all or some of the claims without a trial.

Still, at some point, the plaintiff will need to explain away a series of pre-incident e-mails indicating that she wanted to have consensual sex with Roethlisberger. Absent a sufficient explanation for her written words, we doubt that the case against Roethlisberger will make it to trial.

TackleMeBen
09-30-2009, 07:44 PM
he is up to his neck in some kind of legal mess.

why cant the boy just keep it in his pants where it belongs.

HometownGal
09-30-2009, 10:37 PM
why cant the boy just keep it in his pants where it belongs.

How does anyone really know if Mr. Happy was out of his pants? Ben has never admitted to doing the deed with that gold-digging bimbo.

I didn't think the Judge would dismiss the case because rape is a serious allegation even in the land of legal ho's. He doesn't want to face the ire of all of the womens groups throughout the country, I'm sure. I have every confidence in Ben's legal team and in Ben's innocence. This is going to be a long drawn-out drama unfortunately.

sixstringlass
10-01-2009, 04:41 AM
You know what kind of burns my cookies about this whole thing? The fact that many news outlets won't print the accuser's name, but at the same time keep saying "alleged" sexual assault. If it is, indeed, "alleged," then why don't they keep the accused's name out of it, as well?

I mean, I know the reason: he's famous, so it's a quick dime on the muckraking, mudslinging, and scandal; if they really cared one whit about finding out the truth and keeping people's names out of it until the truth could be discovered, they'd leave Ben's name out of it, too.

TackleMeBen
10-01-2009, 07:00 AM
How does anyone really know if Mr. Happy was out of his pants? Ben has never admitted to doing the deed with that gold-digging bimbo.

I didn't think the Judge would dismiss the case because rape is a serious allegation even in the land of legal ho's. He doesn't want to face the ire of all of the womens groups throughout the country, I'm sure. I have every confidence in Ben's legal team and in Ben's innocence. This is going to be a long drawn-out drama unfortunately.
HTG, i have never heard it called Mr. Happy.... i like that one...:thumbsup:

i am sure i read somewhere that he admitted to having sex with the pyscho, but i could have misread it also.

and you are right it is a serious allegation, and it shouldnt be one that women can use to make up stories when their little feelings get hurt bc a man kicks them to the curb.

i have confidence in his legal team also, however, i think this might be weighing on him more than he wants people to know, and it is causing the team to lose games. i could be wrong, but he just doesnt look the same out there to me.

CPanther95
10-01-2009, 07:59 AM
why cant the boy just keep it in his pants where it belongs.

If it belonged in pants, they'd never had invented zippers.

steelreserve
10-01-2009, 12:10 PM
You know what kind of burns my cookies about this whole thing? The fact that many news outlets won't print the accuser's name, but at the same time keep saying "alleged" sexual assault. If it is, indeed, "alleged," then why don't they keep the accused's name out of it, as well?

I mean, I know the reason: he's famous, so it's a quick dime on the muckraking, mudslinging, and scandal; if they really cared one whit about finding out the truth and keeping people's names out of it until the truth could be discovered, they'd leave Ben's name out of it, too.

Yeah -- basically, in a case like this, if it's not someone famous, it's not news.

I really, really hope this latest decision doesn't make the casino decide to throw in the towel and settle the thing because it's going to be too expensive. I think that was the lawyer's strategy all along -- hope Harrahs decides to cash out, not Ben, because the casino doesn't really have a reputation to defend.

STEELERS'CHICK0609
10-03-2009, 03:21 PM
A bunch of bull, somebody's just looking for free money! Really, she needs to get a life!!!!!!

mesaSteeler
10-08-2009, 05:55 PM
Lawyer for Roethlisberger accuser attacks 'frivolous' claim
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_647087.html
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Thursday, October 8, 2009
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Ben Roethlisberger's failure to make a sworn legal statement denying an accusation that he sexually assaulted a Nevada casino worker undermines his position, his accuser's lawyer said this week in a court filing.

"This case is not even a 'she said, he said' case," Reno attorney Calvin Dunlap wrote. "It is a 'she said' case because he has never, in this litigation, said otherwise."

Roethlisberger is not legally required to file such an affidavit.

Dunlap's comments came in a 10-page rebuttal filed Tuesday to a motion for sanctions against him, which Roethlisberger's attorney's sought for filing what they called a "frivolous" lawsuit designed to "coerce a windfall from an admired, civic-minded and successful football star."

Dunlap called that allegation "bunk."

A 31-year-old woman filed a civil lawsuit this summer claiming the Steelers quarterback sexually assaulted her in July 2008 at Harrah's Lake Tahoe Hotel and Casino, where she worked as a VIP concierge. Roethlisberger was staying at the hotel while attending a celebrity golf tournament.

The woman did not report the allegations to police, though the lawsuit states she did inform Harrah's security chief. The lawsuit accuses several Harrah's employees of participating in a cover-up scheme.

"She has brought her case for the sole purpose of ending Mr. Roethlisberger's belief that he can, at will, pursue his narcissistic sense of entitlement to have his way with any and every woman irrespective of their will," Dunlap wrote.

The Tribune-Review doesn't name alleged victims of sexual assault.

Roethlisberger adamantly denied the accusation during a July news conference at the Steelers' South Side headquarters.

David Cornwell, who represents Roethlisberger, declined to comment on Dunlap's most recent filing. A response will be filed by Tuesday, he said.

Roethlisberger's lawyers have accused the woman of contriving the rape story in order to keep her job. Through court filings, Roethlisberger and other defendants have said the accuser bragged about having sex with the two-time Super Bowl champion and later sought mental-health treatment after learning that an Internet romance was a hoax.

Defense lawyers have filed in court excerpts from e-mails and other electronic messages sent between the accuser and her fictitious boyfriend, who she believed to be a soldier named "Ben" serving in Iraq.

Those messages, Roethlisberger's lawyers contend, prove the woman's claims are baseless because they were sent in the hours and days following the alleged rape and never mention the incident.

Dunlap said defense lawyers "cherry picked" portions of the messages "to support their false premises." He provided the judge with excerpts that appear to reference her version of the events.

"I have an experience that I will take with me to the grave," she wrote in one message before later adding, "and that secret I kept to myself surfaced like you wouldn't believe."

Two weeks ago, the judge refused Roethlisberger's request to dismiss the lawsuit. No hearings or trial date have been set.

LukesDad88
10-16-2009, 10:20 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4567321

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RENO, Nev. -- Ben Roethlisberger is seeking unspecified counter damages from a woman he says falsely accused him of rape in what his lawyer describes as a plan she hatched to seduce the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback in his Lake Tahoe casino-hotel room.



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Andrea McNulty alleged in a civil suit filed in Washoe District Court in July that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her at Harrah's in July 2008 after he lured her there under the false pretense of needing his television repaired.

Roethlisberger's lawyer, John Echeverria, said in a response to the lawsuit filed this week that the woman made up the story because she knew it was against Harrah's policy for employees to visit a guest's room without a work-related purpose.

Her violation of the policy "was a deliberate step in her plan to seduce Mr. Roethlisberger," Echeverria wrote.

"At all times while she was in Mr. Roethlisberger's room, [the woman] acted voluntarily. Mr. Roethlisberger did not sexually assault, assault, batter, falsely imprison or otherwise commit any crime."

The response to the lawsuit includes counterclaims against the two-time Super Bowl winner's accuser for "extortion, abuse of process and defamation."

He seeks unspecified damages in excess of $10,000 to compensate for "lost opportunity for endorsement deals and other revenues, damage to his reputation, emotional distress and legal fees and costs."

McNulty "willfully, intentionally and maliciously made and published unprivileged defamatory statements including that Mr. Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her," Echeverria said.

Cal Dunlap, McNulty's lawyer, said Friday he had no comment on the new filing.

McNulty's lawsuit alleges hotel officials for Harrah's Lake Tahoe went to great lengths to cover up the incident. It seeks a minimum of $440,000 in damages from the quarterback, at least $50,000 in damages from the Harrah's officials and an unspecified amount of punitive damages "sufficient to deter" Roethlisberger and the others "from engaging in such conduct in the future."

The woman's lawsuit says she didn't file a criminal complaint because she feared Harrah's would side with Roethlisberger and she would be fired.

McNulty said once she went to Roethlisberger's room, she determined the TV was functioning properly but as she turned to leave, the 6-foot-5, 240-pound NFL star blocked her exit. She claims he grabbed her and started to kiss her, and she was "shocked and stunned that this previously friendly man, that appeared to be a gentleman in her previous contacts with him was suddenly preventing her from leaving, was assaulting her and battering her."

She said she feared he could or would physically harm her if she tried to fight him off, but that she objected and protested several times to no avail.

Echeverria said in the new filing McNulty "has a history of using sex and lies to get what she wants."

He said McNulty and her lawyer have engaged in a "conspiracy to wave a tangled web of lies, deceit and misdirection in the hopes of leveraging a quick and extortionate payoff from a celebrity known for his good character, athletic talent and generosity to his community.

"The resulting complaint is based on the fantastical imaginings of a desperate woman with significant credibility issues."

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

mesaSteeler
10-17-2009, 09:49 AM
(Florio's legal analysis, unlike his football comments, are generally worth reading. - mesa)

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/legal/

Roethlisberger sues his accuser, admits to having sex with her
Posted by Mike Florio on October 16, 2009 9:50 PM ET

It's an impulse that most defendants instantly experience the moment they are sued.

"Let's sue 'em back."

I've heard it many times during 18 years of practicing law, but rarely did a defendant ever go through with it. It can make the defendant appear mean or vindictive, and definitely not sympathetic.

But Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has provided a rare exception to the usual rule.

He has sued the woman accusing him of sexual assault for seducing him.

"At all times while she was in Mr. Roethlisberger's room, [the plaintiff] acted voluntarily," Roethlisberger's formal answer to the complaint the lawsuit states. "Mr. Roethlisberger did not sexually assault, batter, falsely imprison, or otherwise commit any crime or tort against [the planitiff]."

In the latest filing, Roethlisberger's lawyers claim that the accuser "has a history of using sex and lies to get what she wants" and that "consistent with her pattern of promiscuity and deceit, Ms. McNulty is lying about sex to get money and to save her job."

In support of his counterclaim, Roethlisbeger specifically alleges that the accuser engaged in "extortion, abuse of process and defamation." Roethlisberger's claim demands damages in excess of $10,000 (likely the jurisdictional minimum in Nevada civil court) to compensate for "lost opportunity for endorsement deals and other revenues, damage to his reputation, emotional distress and legal fees and costs."

But here's the thing. Unless she buys a winning Powerball ticket at some point in her life, the accuser won't have the cash to pay off a verdict in Roethlisberger's favor. That's why the better approach might be to just defend the case and not sue a woman for a monetary award that she'll never be able to afford.

Then again, Roethlisberger and his legal team likely are hoping that she'll simply cave and go away. Filing a lawsuit against her could be the thing that causes her to decide that enough is enough.

('m glad Ben's going after the lying wh*re to try and end this travesty of justice. - mesa)

HometownGal
10-17-2009, 09:52 AM
Though I hope this debacle is over soon, Ben should be smacked upside his coconut for sleeping with that snaggle-toothed, horsefaced bitch. :yuck: :shake02:

mesaSteeler
10-17-2009, 10:05 AM
Though I hope this debacle is over soon, Ben should be smacked upside his coconut for sleeping with that snaggle-toothed, horsefaced bitch. :yuck: :shake02:

Well said. :rofl::rofl:

klick81
10-17-2009, 10:47 AM
Geez Ben. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and just assume that this nut job has a killer body. I just have to...she HAS to be a Butter Face.

fansince'76
10-17-2009, 10:55 AM
Geez Ben. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and just assume that this nut job has a killer body. I just have to...she HAS to be a Butter Face.

I agree. And I apologize to everybody I argued with about it - I stand corrected. Yuck. :puke:

TackleMeBen
10-18-2009, 07:01 PM
Though I hope this debacle is over soon, Ben should be smacked upside his coconut for sleeping with that snaggle-toothed, horsefaced bitch. :yuck: :shake02:
HTG, you just made me spit water all over the computer screen..lol..
btw,i have a nice wok you can borrow if you want to use it upside his head:chuckle::wink02:

SteelTalons
10-18-2009, 07:06 PM
Geez Ben. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and just assume that this nut job has a killer body. I just have to...she HAS to be a Butter Face.

Maybe she's a "block-away".

mesaSteeler
10-21-2009, 12:11 AM
Hotel files countersuit against Roethlisberger accuser
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_649075.html#
By Michael Hasch
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, October 21, 2009

The director of hotel operations at the resort where a Nevada casino worker contends that she was sexually assaulted by Ben Roethlisberger filed a countersuit Tuesday against the woman.

Stacy Dingman, an employee at Harrah's Lake Tahoe Hotel and Casino and one-time friend and confidant of the alleged victim, filed a counterclaim seeking in excess of $10,000 in damages.

A 31-year-old VIP concierge at Harrah's, who has never gone to police, claims that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her on July 11, 2008, while the Steelers quarterback was in Nevada for a celebrity golf tournament.

Roethlisberger, 27, has denied the charges and filed counterclaims against the woman. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review does not identify alleged victims of sexual assault.

Dingman, one of a number of codefendants the woman has accused of covering up the assault, said in her countersuit that the alleged victim "was giddy and sometimes squealed with excitement" while she described the "consensual sexual encounter" with Roethlisberger.

Michael Hasch can be reached at mhasch@tribweb.com or 412-320-7820.

43Hitman
10-21-2009, 09:01 AM
Hotel files countersuit against Roethlisberger accuser
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_649075.html#
By Michael Hasch
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, October 21, 2009

The director of hotel operations at the resort where a Nevada casino worker contends that she was sexually assaulted by Ben Roethlisberger filed a countersuit Tuesday against the woman.

Stacy Dingman, an employee at Harrah's Lake Tahoe Hotel and Casino and one-time friend and confidant of the alleged victim, filed a counterclaim seeking in excess of $10,000 in damages.

A 31-year-old VIP concierge at Harrah's, who has never gone to police, claims that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her on July 11, 2008, while the Steelers quarterback was in Nevada for a celebrity golf tournament.

Roethlisberger, 27, has denied the charges and filed counterclaims against the woman. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review does not identify alleged victims of sexual assault.

Dingman, one of a number of codefendants the woman has accused of covering up the assault, said in her countersuit that the alleged victim "was giddy and sometimes squealed with excitement" while she described the "consensual sexual encounter" with Roethlisberger.

Michael Hasch can be reached at mhasch@tribweb.com or 412-320-7820.

This is unprecedented, two defendants in the same case filing countersuits. Do you guys/gals think Ben is financing Dingman's case? How can someone that works for Harrah's afford lawyers for two cases?

klick81
10-21-2009, 10:42 AM
This is good news. Nobody is backing down from this bitch.

TackleMeBen
10-21-2009, 03:30 PM
this needs to be ben's new motto:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u251/beautifulgirl427/thumbnail.jpg

klick81
10-21-2009, 03:34 PM
But he did. Admited to it too.

Godfather
10-24-2009, 11:35 AM
How can someone that works for Harrah's afford lawyers for two cases?

Harrah's might be picking up the tab since it's work-related :noidea:

I'm wondering what it's going to take to get the case thrown out. There's already proof McNutty is lying (she sent emails the night of July 11 from her work computer, when she claimed to have already left work). That blows up her whole timeline. Plus the emails to "Soldier Ben" contradict her story.

shevdog
10-25-2009, 02:14 PM
I really don't like the Vikings momentum. I'd like to see a turnover, but don't think that will happen quite yet.

klick81
10-26-2009, 11:13 AM
I really don't like the Vikings momentum. I'd like to see a turnover, but don't think that will happen quite yet.

LOL...wrong thread there buddy!

mesaSteeler
11-04-2009, 08:50 PM
Roethlisberger accuser leaves Harrah's
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4623162

The Harrah's employee who has accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault in a lawsuit has resigned from her position at the casino, ESPN's Shelley Smith reported.

The woman, Andrea McNulty, resigned from her position at Harrah's in Lake Tahoe, Calif., "because of the way she was being treated by her employer," said her attorney, Calvin Dunlap.

McNulty's lawsuit seeks a minimum of $440,000 in damages from Roethlisberger and at least $50,000 in damages from Harrah's officials, regarding the alleged incident in July 2008 in a penthouse across the street from the upscale Edgewood Tahoe Golf Course.

McNulty, a former VIP host at the resort, alleged in her lawsuit that Roethlisberger lured her to his room under the false pretense of needing his television repaired. She said she didn't file a criminal complaint because she feared Harrah's would side with Roethlisberger and she would be fired.

Roethlisberger has denied the allegations and maintains the woman acted voluntarily at all times while in his room.

The lawsuit, which was filed in Reno, Nev., is proceding, as Roethlisberger's motion to dismiss the case was denied. Roethlisberger is also seeking unspecified damages in a countersuit.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

klick81
11-04-2009, 10:23 PM
This crazy bitch was still showin up to work?! :jawdrop:

iloveben7
11-05-2009, 01:43 AM
this woman frustrates me to no end.
there's no way she's telling the truth

SteelMember
11-05-2009, 08:24 AM
She was not forced to quit

Dunlap said his client continued to work at Harrah's "from the time the incident happened until September [2008], when she started falling apart." The woman took numerous leaves for medical reasons between November 2008 and March 2009, when she returned to work.

"Her co-workers have been extremely supportive," Dunlap said. "But her employer made the situation impossible for her."

I guess if I was attempting to sue my company for $50,000 and accuse them of covering up my alleged assault, yeah I think that may promote a difficult environment.

You know the lawyer told her not to quit, and the casino wasn't going to "fire" her. And I wonder if those "supportive" co-workers are the same ones she accused of the cover up. I wouldn't think so.

http://postgazette.com/pg/09309/1011054-66.stm

steelreserve
11-05-2009, 11:49 AM
The lawsuit, which was filed in Reno, Nev., is proceding, as Roethlisberger's motion to dismiss the case was denied. Roethlisberger is also seeking unspecified damages in a countersuit.

That piece of information got past me under the radar until now. All I have to say is good.

Wonder how that effort to have the money-grubbing lawyer disbarred is going? Everything else aside, that's what really needs to happen in this case.

TackleMeBen
11-05-2009, 03:30 PM
wonder if the hotel mgmt is throwing a party now that the crazy b itch has quit????lol..
i wish this whole mess would just go away.

mesaSteeler
11-10-2009, 11:37 PM
Roethlisberger to discuss lawsuit with ESPN
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_652433.html#
By Scott Brown
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Ben Roethlisberger will tell his side of the story — or at least what he has been through since being accused of rape in a civil lawsuit — tonight on the ESPN magazine program E:60.

The Steelers quarterback talks one-on-one with reporter Michael Smith at 7 p.m. about a subject on which he has said very little since being named in the highly publicized lawsuit. It was filed on behalf of a former employee of a Lake Tahoe resort who claims Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her in his hotel room in 2008.

Roethlisberger, who was playing in a celebrity golf event at the time of the alleged incident, has denied any wrongdoing. He tells Smith that the tarnishing of his family name is one reason why he and his lawyers have mounted an aggressive defense and countersued his accuser.

If the civil suit, which Roethlisberger's lawyers unsuccessfully petitioned to have thrown out, has been a distraction, it hasn't shown. Roethlisberger is in the midst of a career season.

He entered Monday night's game against the Denver Broncos with just over 2,000 passing yards and the fifth-best passer rating (102.6) in the NFL. Roethlisberger, who completed just over 70 percent of his passes through the Steelers' first seven games, is on pace to set a handful of franchise records.

Last night, he was trying to become the first Steelers quarterback to win a regular-season game in Denver since 1990. The Broncos, coming off their first loss of the season, seemed intent on not abetting Roethlisberger in that endeavor.

They sacked him twice in the first quarter and allowed just 56 yards of total offense to the Steelers in the first half.

With the offense scuffling, the defense got the Steelers on the scoreboard at Invesco Field.

Tyrone Carter intercepted a pass near midfield and returned it 48 yards for a touchdown and a 7-3 lead early in the second quarter.

Carter started last night for Ryan Clark, who was deactivated because of a medical condition, and the Steelers did not experience much of a drop off in the secondary.

Carter, in fact, has intercepted four passes and returned two of them for touchdowns in the past three games he has started at free safety over the past two seasons.

His play proved to be the biggest one for the Steelers during a first half in which they were outgained by more than 100 yards.

The Steelers were trying to improve to 6-2 last night so they could arrive at the midway point of the season tied with the Bengals for first place in the AFC North.

The Steelers host the Bengals on Sunday.

Scott Brown can be reached at sbrown@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

tony hipchest
11-10-2009, 11:42 PM
for anyone who missed the piece, check for it on youtube or something.

it was really great. excellent footage of ben taking his linemen out inter tubing on the lake in georgia (freaking hilarious) and charlie batch setting him straight and telling him he needs to be a better leader before the 08 season.

MasterOfPuppets
11-11-2009, 12:06 AM
for anyone who missed the piece, check for it on youtube or something.

it was really great. excellent footage of ben taking his linemen out inter tubing on the lake in georgia (freaking hilarious) and charlie batch setting him straight and telling him he needs to be a better leader before the 08 season.

:link:

Shea
11-11-2009, 12:26 AM
Here's a link to the video, MOP.....

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4641995

stillers4me
11-11-2009, 08:03 AM
for anyone who missed the piece, check for it on youtube or something.

it was really great. excellent footage of ben taking his linemen out inter tubing on the lake in georgia (freaking hilarious) and charlie batch setting him straight and telling him he needs to be a better leader before the 08 season.

I've said it before and I'll say it agian, Charlie Batch is invaluable in the locker room.

We need him to stay in a coaching role after he retires. He talked to Santonio last year right after the marijuana issue and set him straight and we ended up with a Superbowl MVP. He's mentored Ben and now look at him. I'm very proud of Ben for the way he has matured and grown into a leader. Without guys like Carlie Batch, Hine Ward and James Farrior, we would be looking at a very different team today. Ben could easily have turned out to be a spoiled, "it's all about me QB" with a locker in a different area of the locker room. ( I'm not mentioning anyone in particular :wink02:) It's what separates us from other teams in the league.

TackleMeBen
11-11-2009, 09:37 AM
Roethlisberger suit is on hold, awaits Nev. high-court appeal

A judge has halted proceedings in the sexual assault lawsuit against Ben Roethlisberger pending the outcome of an appeal to the Nevada Supreme Court seeking a change of venue by the Steelers quarterback and one of his co-defendants.

Washoe County Judge Brent Adams issued the stay Monday.

The result is an indefinite suspension of the case in which a 31-year-old woman has accused Roethlisberger of raping her in his hotel room at Harrah's Lake Tahoe in July 2008 while she worked as a VIP hostess during a celebrity golf tournament.

The woman also sued eight current or former Harrah's employees, alleging that they tried to cover up the incident.

Roethlisberger, 27, has denied the allegations.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette does not name accusers in sexual assault cases.

On Sept. 16, Adams denied a motion to move the case from Washoe to Douglas County, where the hotel, the plaintiff and Roethlisberger's co-defendants are located. Adams ruled that defendant David Monroe, who is vice president of food and hotel operations at Harrah's, resides in both counties and therefore could be sued in Washoe.

A filing by Roethlisberger's lawyers in August indicated they thought the NFL player's accuser was trying to avoid Douglas County for some reason and characterized her "venue shopping" as a way to "gain an unfair advantage."
Roethlisberger, in a previously-recorded ESPN interview that aired last night and represents his first comments on the matter since a public statement in July, said he was shocked and "blown away" when the lawsuit first came to his attention.

"My name, my family's name, has been tarnished by this accusation that hurts a lot," he said.



Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09315/1012404-455.stm#ixzz0WYtBf3Uq


that is very interesting.. i didnt know you could venue shop for a lawsuit???

mesaSteeler
11-11-2009, 11:21 PM
Ben Roethlisberger says bond with teammates has helped him weather sexual assault accusations

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/11/ben-roethlisberger-says-bond-with-teammates-has-helped-him-weather-sexual-assault-accusations/1?loc=interstitialskip
On the field, Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger is currently headed for the team's (and maybe the NFL's) record book.

But it's off the field where Roethlisberger may be showing even sterner mettle in the Steel City. His play hasn't suffered even though he was accused of rape by a Nevada hotel employee in July and hit with a civil suit.

Roethlisberger discussed his tribulations and how his newfound maturity as a teammate has helped him endure thus far on ESPN's E:60 Tuesday night.

"I was blown away," he said of first learning of the allegations. "It shocked me. It hurt. Because people that know me and that I'm close with know this is ridiculous."

Roethlisberger said he "was almost in tears" when he made his first public comments steadfastly denying the charges at a team press conference in July.

So how has he been able to thrive in light of what he's dealing with in his personal life?

"I've been able to kind of put it behind me when I go into practice, when I go into work," he said.

"I just block it out."

Roethlisberger also expounded on his choice to fight the suit rather than accept an offer to settle out of court.

"We want to clear my name," he said, "because that's what hurt the most, is that my name -- my family's name -- has been tarnished by this accusation."

The quarterback also cites support from his teammates for getting him through this difficult period, even though Roethlisberger acknowledged he wasn't the best teammate early in his career. "I was invincible. I was Superman. I was probably a little too confident, a little too ****y at times," he admitted.

He also says a frank conversation with backup QB Charlie Batch helped bring him closer to the men in the Pittsburgh locker room.

"I wasn't a good leader early on, and I wasn't probably the best teammate I should've been the first couple years," said Roethlisberger. "And Charlie helped me, and I think I became a better teammate and friend to a lot of these guys."

Said Steelers DE Brett Keisel: "He's really taken the leadership role and ran with it.

"He's really come along not only on the field but inside the locker room, too."

Big Ben has become particularly close with the offensive linemen who have been frequently pilloried for surrendering 162 sacks of their quarterback in the last 3 1/2 years.

But while piloting an offense that has shed its run-oriented mentality, Roethlisberger is on pace to throw for close to 4,600 yards. No Steeler has ever topped the 4,000-yard plateau. He could also challenge his own club marks for TD passes (32) and passer rating (104.1).

Roethlisberger and Colts QB Peyton Manning could also eclipse Ken Anderson's single-season mark for completion percentage (70.55%). Big Ben currently stands at 70.611% with Peyton at 70.607%.

Named a captain the past two seasons, Roethlisberger has made a point of frequently calling and text messaging his teammates throughout the year, loyalty that's come back to him in spades.

"You know what? There's a lot of things can happen in your life -- good, bad, ugly, whatever it is," said Roethlisberger.

"These allegations are just ... they're tough, they're tough on me. But my teammates, knowing that they support me and have my back, that really just means a lot." -- Nate Davis

steelreserve
11-16-2009, 12:01 PM
that is very interesting.. i didnt know you could venue shop for a lawsuit???

It's pretty common ... for example, most "patent trolls" file their lawsuits in one particular county in eastern Texas, because it has laws that are specifically favorable to plaintiffs in patent cases. Kind of like how businesses will incorporate themselves in Delaware because of the tax laws, even though they have nothing to do with Delaware. They go wherever the laws are most favorable.

TroysBadDawg
12-11-2009, 12:10 AM
well said because first instincts are usually the best.

warning to ohio steelerfans.... stock up on the ass wipe because there is bound to be a shortage of toilet tissue with all the bungle and brownie fans jerking off to this "news".

:jerkit:

Hey Tony sorry but this Browns fan is not happy about the charge if it is true or not. These guys are over payed for what they do and we the fans pay it thru ticket prices etc. IF she is after money I hope he is found inocent, but if it is true I hope she gets what she deserves. Just because he is a hero to some does not not make him inocent or guilty intil prove so.

steelerchad
12-16-2009, 02:07 PM
Hey Tony sorry but this Browns fan is not happy about the charge if it is true or not. These guys are over payed for what they do and we the fans pay it thru ticket prices etc. IF she is after money I hope he is found inocent, but if it is true I hope she gets what she deserves. Just because he is a hero to some does not not make him inocent or guilty intil prove so.


And there you would be wrong. Not because he is a hero, but because anyone regardless of stature is innocent until proven guilty.

As far as getting what she deserves, that's already happened. She's been made to look like a money grubbing wh*** in public. If you haven't seen any of the evidence that's come out, here's a couple of things for you.
Her own friends have come out and said she bragged about the sexual encounter. Not exactly something one would be expected to do if raped.
Also, many emails to friends discussing the encounter and the hopes to have another encounter with Ben. Again, not exactly the kind of thing a rape victim would be doing.

Kanata-Steeler
12-27-2009, 05:11 PM
Can somebody please just "unstick" this un-sightly thread now ? no no, like nobody really cares anymore, heck not even her ?

steelreserve
12-28-2009, 07:51 PM
Can somebody please just "unstick" this un-sightly thread now ? no no, like nobody really cares anymore, heck not even her ?

I also think the fact that it's sticky makes most people skip right over it. It used to be getting several replies a day, and the moment it went sticky, people started ignoring it. I think they just glance up briefly and think it's part of the announcements and such.

theplatypus
02-08-2010, 06:03 PM
Has anything happened with this recently?