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stillers4me
07-20-2009, 09:28 PM
............And we thought we could make through an entire offseason without a major incident :doh:........not that this sounds majorly major, I'm sure the media will make a big deal about it.

Actual docket report:
http://www.ccwashoe.com/public/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=CV09-02222&begin_date=&end_date=

Earlier today, our own Gregg Rosenthal received a tip regarding a legal claim that was about to be made against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. And as we were doing our due diligence (primarily in order to avoid being on the wrong end of a legal claims of our own), Gregg was tipped off to the fact that a suit has indeed been filed.

According to the web site for the Second Judicial District of Washoe County, Nevada, Andrea McNulty filed suit against Roethlisberger and several others on Friday. Though the details currently are scant, the lawsuit generally has been categorized as a claim for defamation.

That said, other types of claims possibly are contained in the suit papers against one or more of the defendants.

Per Rosenthal's source, one or more of the other named defendants (John Koster, Guy Hyder, Mark Masters, Dave Monroe, Mike Rosenow, Debbie Neall, Bryan Casuscelli, and Stacy Dingman) currently work and/or used to work with McNulty at Harrah's, where McNulty is still employed.

Still, Roethlisberger's connection to the case is unclear. It's possible that she claims that he did or said something to her for which civil liability could be imposed in his capacity as a customer at Harrah's.

Given that a summons was issued on Friday, Roethlisberger might have been served suit papers while in Lake Tahoe for the 20th Annual American Century Celebrity Golf Championship.

As we hear it, Roethlisberger regularly visits the area.

Meanwhile, we're in the process of tracking down more information.

We've got a feeling that, in this regard, we're not alone.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

RoethlisBURGHer
07-20-2009, 09:33 PM
Well, this will be interesting.

stillers4me
07-20-2009, 09:36 PM
Someone got her widdle feelings hurt.

I bet some of Ben's money will make it all better. :coffee:

tony hipchest
07-20-2009, 09:42 PM
defamamation huh? notice the link. "cc was hoe".

he probably resisted the skank"s advances then called her a tramp and told the bitch to "beat it" in front of fellow patrons.:hunch:

:tt02:

Psyychoward86
07-20-2009, 09:59 PM
WOW. A money grub suing a typically innocent celebrity/wealthy person for money. I guess it never gets old :coffee:

HometownGal
07-20-2009, 11:10 PM
Story just broke on KDKA here in the Burgh. No doubt in my mind this is a quick-rich scheme by this bitch who smells the green. :mad:

http://kdka.com/steelers/Ben.Roethlisberger.lawsuit.2.1094033.html

Lawsuit Filed Against Ben Roethlisberger

PITTSBURGH (KDKA)

It's an out-of-the blue report that broke on the internet several hours ago. Ben Roethlisberger is facing ugly accusations in a lawsuit filed in Nevada.

Within the past hour, via the Steelers, KDKA received a response from Roethlisberger's lawyer.

"This weekend Andrea McNulty served Ben Roethlisberger with a civil complaint accusing him of sexually assaulting her in July 2008. Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone; especially Andrea McNulty. The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct. If an investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated."

At this point, we don't know the specifics of the lawsuit or what Roethlisberger's relationship was, if any, with the woman bringing the suit.

The news of the suit broke online Monday night and the Steelers are sending out that response from Roethlisberger's lawyer.

scsteeler
07-20-2009, 11:10 PM
In this economy people will take advantage of the fact that you can file a lawsuit against someone whether you have grounds or not. I think she is out to get money and Ben may have been with some friends and they said something but she knew who had the bucks.

Psyychoward86
07-20-2009, 11:17 PM
It's so sad that bad things have to happen to such good people.

The Definiti0n
07-20-2009, 11:17 PM
I bet dis hoe is a Ratbird fan.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-20-2009, 11:29 PM
And the case will be dismissed. If you were sexually assaulted in July of 2008...what took you so long to sue...and why didn't you run to the police and file a report with them?

Maybe because you're a skanky lil ho who just wants some bucks.

I hope Ben files a counter lawsuit against her for defamation of character.

Preacher
07-20-2009, 11:40 PM
I am quite surprised and a little disappointed here.

Just because it is against a Steeler QB that we like, immediately this woman is a "skank" a "ho" and a "money grub" ?

My first thought... Ben is targeted, however, I do not know what happened, and I refuse to type the accuser because she is accusing Ben of something I don't like.

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 12:04 AM
I am quite surprised and a little disappointed here.

Just because it is against a Steeler QB that we like, immediately this woman is a "skank" a "ho" and a "money grub" ?

My first thought... Ben is targeted, however, I do not know what happened, and I refuse to type the accuser because she is accusing Ben of something I don't like.

Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one. There is no criminal complaint or we would have heard about it a year ago. Also the claim is over a year old. That is not the behavior of a woman who been sexually assaulted.

I smell a money grubbing skank profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilterprofanityfilter.

onefortheotherhand
07-21-2009, 12:11 AM
hot damn i hope this does'nt turn out to be true or blown up by the media

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 12:13 AM
My first thought... Ben is targeted

well said because first instincts are usually the best.

warning to ohio steelerfans.... stock up on the ass wipe because there is bound to be a shortage of toilet tissue with all the bungle and brownie fans jerking off to this "news".

:jerkit:

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 12:25 AM
Roethlisberger attorney denies allegations
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_634604.html
By Michael Hasch, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, July 20, 2009

An attorney for Ben Roethlisberger issued a statement late Monday denying that the Steelers quarterback sexually assaulted a woman in Nevada last year.

Court dockets in Nevada show that Andrea McNulty filed a civil complaint Friday against Roethlisberger.

"This weekend, Andrea McNulty served Ben Roethlisberger with a civil complaint accusing him of sexually assaulting her in July 2008," according to a statement released by William David Cornwell Sr. of DNK Cornwell, a sports law firm based in Atlanta.

"Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone, especially Andrea McNulty," the statement reads.

"The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct. If an investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated," according to the statement.

"Ben will not be baited into a public discussion about his personal life, but we will defend him vigorously. The limited value that Ms. McNulty derived from public disclosure of these viciously false allegations is the only value she will ever receive from Ben in this case."

Calvin R. Dunlap, the Reno, Nev., attorney who filed the suit on behalf of McNulty, could not be reached for comment.

Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett said the team is aware of the allegations.

"I can't comment on specifics of the case," Lockett said. "We have heard Ben's side of the story and we support him at this time."

(I wonder if this is some sort of gambling scam to try and influence the odds on the Steelers winning the SuperBowl. - mesa)

Preacher
07-21-2009, 12:30 AM
Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one. There is no criminal complaint or we would have heard about it a year ago. Also the claim is over a year old. That is not the behavior of a woman who been sexually assaulted.

I smell a money grubbing skank profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilterprofanityfilter.

Very wrong.

Criminal complaints only make sense when there are 1. witnesses or 2. physical proof. Otherwise, they are actually VERY hard to prove.

Secondly, woman (and even more so men) who are sexually assaulted often do not come to terms with it for months or YEARS afterward. Many who are actually raped will go and completely clean themselves a few times, unthinkingly removing all evidence and then blaming themselves for giving the wrong "signs" or making the wrong 'decision" .

No, the woman that goes straight to the police days or even weeks after, let alone hours after, is going very much AGAINST the normal behavior of a woman who has been sexually assaulted IMO.

______________________________________

What do I think about Ben? same thing I said Dookie... not enough info right now.

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 12:43 AM
thirdly... ben is not a raper. why would he need to steal a piece of ass?

especially from a skank?

MasterOfPuppets
07-21-2009, 01:51 AM
well said because first instincts are usually the best.

warning to ohio steelerfans.... stock up on the ass wipe because there is bound to be a shortage of toilet tissue with all the bungle and brownie fans jerking off to this "news".

:jerkit:
i thought thier sisters took care of that mess .....:huh:

MasterOfPuppets
07-21-2009, 01:56 AM
thirdly... ben is not a raper. why would he need to steal a piece of ass?

especially from a skank?
who's to say it went that far ? i mean wouldn't just smacking someones ass or coppin a feel be considered sexual assualt :noidea: hell i had a lady in front of me in line at the bank tell me one time... " if you lick me one more time, i'm gonna get you for sexual assult "... :laughing:

JackHammer
07-21-2009, 03:01 AM
I am quite surprised and a little disappointed here.

Just because it is against a Steeler QB that we like, immediately this woman is a "skank" a "ho" and a "money grub" ?

My first thought... Ben is targeted, however, I do not know what happened, and I refuse to type the accuser because she is accusing Ben of something I don't like.

I know what you mean. I was just wondering how these same people would be reacting if, say, this were Terrell Suggs. He'd already be a convicted rapist to many people here. I have my doubts about this being true, but we still need to save our judgments until we have all of the facts straight.

T Bradshaw
07-21-2009, 03:34 AM
Its probably an ugly fat chick who is in love with Ben
She is embarrsing herself and ger family
Stupid fatass girl

Edman
07-21-2009, 03:45 AM
If this were Terrell Suggs... well, guess what? It isn't. It's Ben Roethlisberger.

High-Profile Athlete of a Championship Team.
Woman digs up some conversation with Ben from last year.
She recalls something naughty Ben said.
Spins it into sexual harrassment.
Takes advantage of her position as a Woman in this country.

Instant Lawsuit.

Didn't report the harassment to the police.
Didn't file any kind of suit whatsoever until now. A woman who was sexually assaulted wouldn't WAIT A YEAR to file a lawsuit, she would report to the police instantly.

Just another gold digger looking to cash in.

CantStop85
07-21-2009, 04:14 AM
thirdly... ben is not a raper. why would he need to steal a piece of ass?

especially from a skank?
You could say the same about Kobe Bryant...and I'm sure 90% of the people here believe he raped that girl.

Here's what PFT added to the story:

"In the civil suit, which Cornwell confirms was served on Roethlisberger over the weekend and a copy of which our own Gregg Rosenthal has obtained, McNulty alleges that Roethlisberger asked her to come to his hotel room to fix the television, and that he thereafter forced her to have sex with him."

Anyway, the story seems a bit fishy...usually in such a matter a criminal case would be pursued first...then again if it was rape, a criminal case at this point in time would be pointless seeing as she obviously never had a rape kit done and prosecution for rape is usually a long drawn out process that only occasionally leads to a conviction anyway.

Bottom line, we'll probably never know who's telling the truth for certain...speculation either way is just that...speculation.

Galax Steeler
07-21-2009, 04:44 AM
This is a bunch of horse s-h-t right before trainning camp I hope it gets cleared out soon.

Dodt
07-21-2009, 05:20 AM
same here.

Franco32Harris
07-21-2009, 06:34 AM
I just saw this on the news this morning and wow im mad some stupid chick brings a civil suit against ben because she was sexually assaulted yeah right the judge will take one look at this case and throw it out because he knows that chick is just there for money.

stillers4me
07-21-2009, 06:48 AM
There's one line is this story that tells me the truth.

Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett said the team is aware of the allegations.

"I can't comment on specifics of the case," Lockett said. "We have heard Ben's side of the story and we support him at this time."

It's the same thing they said after Santonio's baby mama tried to extort money after he signed his contract. I f they thought he actually did it, they would the team woyuld say they were waiting for the justice system to run it's course.

Lordy lordy, I guess it was only a matter of time before someone hit one of our high profile players with something like this. The bigger the fish, the bigger the payday.

HometownGal
07-21-2009, 09:04 AM
I know what you mean. I was just wondering how these same people would be reacting if, say, this were Terrell Suggs. He'd already be a convicted rapist to many people here. I have my doubts about this being true, but we still need to save our judgments until we have all of the facts straight.

This is a board of OPINIONS, Jack, and people are just stating theirs. No one knows at this point in time the whys and becauses of what happened or didn't happen, but we as Steelers fans pretty much know the character of Ben Roethlisberger and believe (at this point) that the allegations simply aren't true.

McNulty alleges that Roethlisberger asked her to come to his hotel room to fix the television, and that he thereafter forced her to have sex with him."


My opinion here is that this chick came on to Ben and he turned her down, so she figured she'd "fix him" and decided a year later to go after his checkbook.

Until the "facts are straight", I believe in Ben's innocence.

mulldog24
07-21-2009, 09:17 AM
I really hate money grubbing skanks! They shake their ass to get a comment and then go sue for money!!!:banging::mad:

nicesteel4life
07-21-2009, 09:30 AM
What doesn't kill ya, only makes ya stronger!

BlastFurnace
07-21-2009, 09:33 AM
I am quite surprised and a little disappointed here.

Just because it is against a Steeler QB that we like, immediately this woman is a "skank" a "ho" and a "money grub" ?

My first thought... Ben is targeted, however, I do not know what happened, and I refuse to type the accuser because she is accusing Ben of something I don't like.

I agree with you 100% Preacher. I hope this is not true. I also hope that Ben and other athletes will learn their lesson someday. I would hate to see more people end up with a desparate person like McNair did with similar results. As I used to hear when I was younger..."it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt". Whether Ben is innocent or guilty, it's going to affect him in one way or another.

lamberts-lost-tooth
07-21-2009, 09:37 AM
I did like the subtle swipe at the accusor...

Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone; especially Andrea McNulty

Translation: Ben never touched this gold digger...and in some alternate universe IF he were to assault someone,........ PLEASE....he could have done better.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 09:43 AM
its probably Jeremy's sister...

KeiselPower99
07-21-2009, 09:53 AM
Ok here is something I dont understand it happened a year ago and just bein filed against him?? And there is 9 other guys listed??? I would be very careful with this whos to say the other 9 guys wont turn on Ben and say he did do it. This is real fishy and dont make sense at all.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 09:55 AM
We'll see what happens.

Funny how she was "tricked" into going to his room to Fix his Television.

Apparently she is also saying that 9 of her co-workers helped "cover it up"

lamberts-lost-tooth
07-21-2009, 10:05 AM
We'll see what happens.

Funny how she was "tricked" into going to his room to Fix his Television.

Apparently she is also saying that 9 of her co-workers helped "cover it up"

Reports say that she was a waitress at Harrahs...so either:

A) Harrah's Casino has the best cross-training program in the industry.
B) She is the most gullible waitress in the world.
C) Her story has more wholes than a bad guy in a Quentin Tarantino movie.

millwalldavey
07-21-2009, 10:11 AM
My opinion here is that this chick came on to Ben and he turned her down, so she figured she'd "fix him" and decided a year later to go after his checkbook.

Until the "facts are straight", I believe in Ben's innocence.

Since it si a board of opinions:

I'm gonna say she came to his room, they had some sort of encounter (probably had sex). Now she is turning it into some sort of payday a year later. Who knows what her motives are.

Anything in that room was 100% consentual.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 10:14 AM
the thing is, Ben as a pro athlete needs to avoid girls like this as a general rule.

if he had sex with this girl, he already made a mistake by opening the door to allow something like this. It bothers me that he may have acted like a college QB on campus knocking boots with one of his fans or something. Stick to dating other high profile women, at least then when you have sex with the girl, she won't turn around and scream rape. Not if she's high profile as well. Once you start dating waitresses as a high profile athlete well, ask McNair how that turns out.

Its just dumb by him. Now if he settles, I'll be very upset. He needs to not admit any guilt of wrong doing in anyway. Michael Jackson settled too, that didn't help his reputation.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 10:18 AM
"In the civil suit, which Cornwell confirms was served on Roethlisberger over the weekend and a copy of which our own Gregg Rosenthal has obtained, McNulty alleges that Roethlisberger asked her to come to his hotel room to fix the television, and that he thereafter forced her to have sex with him.".

since when do women fix tv's?

i dont buy it

Fire Haley
07-21-2009, 10:24 AM
Sounds like complete bullcrap to me.


Roethlisberger named in Reno case
Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has been named a defendant in a defamation lawsuit that was filed last week in Reno, Nev.

A copy of the lawsuit was not available last night, but a court docket entry showed that a civil complaint was filed on Friday in Washoe County, Nev., accusing Mr. Roethlisberger of libel and slander.

The lawsuit was filed by a woman identified as Andrea McNulty. It named Mr. Roethlisberger and eight other defendants. They include: John Koster, Guy Hyder, Mark Masters, Dave Monroe, Mike Rosenow, Debbie Neall, Bryan Casuscelli and Stacy Dingman.

The complaint was filed by attorney Calvin R. Dunlap, of Reno, who could not be reached for comment.

Atlanta-based sports attorney David Cornwell issued a statement on Mr. Roethlisberger's behalf late last night.

"This weekend Andrea McNulty served Ben Roethlisberger with a civil complaint accusing him of sexually assaulting her in July 2008. Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone; especially Andrea McNulty. The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct. If an investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated.

"Ben will not be baited into a public discussion about his personal life, but we will defend him vigorously. The limited value that Ms. McNulty derived from public disclosure of these viciously false allegations is the only value she will ever receive from Ben in this case," the statement said.

Mr. Cornwell declined to elaborate.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09202/985312-66.stm#ixzz0Lu5npcJp

revefsreleets
07-21-2009, 11:08 AM
Problems with this case:
-No police report filed. Sorry, no matter what, if she was raped at SOME point she should have called the police.
-One year. That's a LONG time.
-Straight to civil court. Smells like a money grab, and she probably figures he'll HAVE to settle so she gets some cash no matter what (on a side note, if Ben is innocent, he should fight this even if it costs him 10X as much as settlement).
-Reno, NV- Prostitution is legal. Ben is uber-wealthy. If he wanted some nookie, he'd have just hired a prostitute.

Sorry guys, this is a cash grab, pure and simple. I think something like 90% of rape allegations turn out to be false, and when you figure in the celebrity status as well as all the other mitigating factors, I'd say there is less than a 1% chance that there is ANYTHING to this. In fact, I sincerely doubt he even had sex with her.

(Note: I don't believe Kobe raped that girl. I don't care for him at all, and I think he's a dirtbag for cheating on his wife, but he raped no one)

klick81
07-21-2009, 11:17 AM
Wow....this is not the first thing one likes to read in the morning. Whatever happens, I hope Ben does not give this woman one cent. That is the only way he will keep his name clear of any wrong doing.

lilyoder6
07-21-2009, 11:17 AM
Problems with this case:
-No police report filed. Sorry, no matter what, if she was raped at SOME point she should have called the police.
-One year. That's a LONG time.
-Straight to civil court. Smells like a money grab, and she probably figures he'll HAVE to settle so she gets some cash no matter what (on a side note, if Ben is innocent, he should fight this even if it costs him 10X as much as settlement).
-Reno, NV- Prostitution is legal. Ben is uber-wealthy. If he wanted some nookie, he'd have just hired a prostitute.

Sorry guys, this is a cash grab, pure and simple. I think something like 90% of rape allegations turn out to be false, and when you figure in the celebrity status as well as all the other mitigating factors, I'd say there is less than a 1% chance that there is ANYTHING to this. In fact, I sincerely doubt he even had sex with her.

(Note: I don't believe Kobe raped that girl. I don't care for him at all, and I think he's a dirtbag for cheating on his wife, but he raped no one)

i pretty much agree with evrything u just said.. and going off of nevada he could of went to the cat house ranch or w/e the place is called...

just another broad trying to make money

revefsreleets
07-21-2009, 11:24 AM
Oh, one more thing: This CAN NOT become a distraction for Ben or the team. One thing I've heard about criminals over the years is the guilty one's never lose any sleep over their actions. They know they are caught and they don't worry about it too much. However, if Ben is innocent this could weigh on him heavily. Hopefully they can get this matter cleared up quickly (i.e. dismissed).

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 11:33 AM
obviously this seems like a bs case

but i do find some people pathetic that just blindly assume any player of a team they dont like is guilty like stupid ignorant Cleveland fans with Kobe

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 11:35 AM
i just heard of this latest PFT article on sirius-

McNulty, who says in the complaint that she has worked at Harrah's since March 2003, alleges that she was assigned to serve a concierge-style function on the Penthouse floor of the hotel during the 2008 American Century Celebrity Golf Championship.

McNulty alleges that, on July 10, she and Roethlisberger had a conversation about fly fishing, and that they talked about the fact that McNulty is an avid fly fisherman. (Though, on the surface, the exchange isn't relevant, the contention -- if true -- shows that there was at least a minor relationship between McNulty and Roethlisberger prior to the incident.)

As to the incident itself, it allegedly occurred on Friday, July 11. McNulty claims that, at approximately 10:00 p.m. local time, Roethlisberger returned to his room with a young woman, who left roughly 20 minutes later.

McNulty says that Roethlisberger walked the woman to the elevator, and that Roethlisberger then stopped to talk to McNulty and other staff, for roughly 20 minutes. (Obviously, it'll be critical to determine who these other staff members are, and what they have to say.)

As he was leaving, Roethlisberger allegedly told McNulty that the sound system on his television wasn't working. She offered to have someone from engineering fix it, but Roethlisberger said he would call her about it later.

Roethlisberger allegedly called her a few minutes later, and he said that the television was still broken. She offered to have someone go to the room and fix it. He allegedly asked her to come and "take a quick look" at it.

McNulty claims that she tried to call a couple of other colleagues to handle the situation, but that she couldn't reach anyone. She alleges that Roethlisberger called again and asked her when she was going to fix the television.

Citing a direction from management to ensure that Roethlisberger had an enjoyable trip, she decided to try to fix it herself.

McNulty claims that, when she arrived at the room, he was wearing a T-shirt and athletic shorts. She adds, for no apparent reason other than to show the clarity of her recollection, that the room was a mess.

Roethlisberger showed her the television that was malfunctioning, located in suite's bedroom. Using the remote, she determined that there was no problem with the television or the sound system.

She claims that, as she tried to leave the room, Roethlisberger blocked her path, and that he "grabbed [her] and started to kiss her."

She claims that she was "shocked and stunned that this previously friendly man, that appeared to be a gentleman in her previous contacts with him was suddenly preventing her from leaving, was assaulting and battering her."

McNulty admits that she didn't try to fight Roethlisberger, citing his size and strength. She claims that she "communicated her objection and lack of consent," and that he nevertheless began "fondling [her] through her dress and between her legs."

She claims that he pushed her onto the bed, and despite her alleged protests he "pulled her underpants off and proceeded to penetrate her."

McNulty claims that she told him, "You don't want to do this." She also claims that she said, "Please don't," and that she told him she was not on any type of birth control.

She claims that he said in response, "Don't worry, I'll pull out," which he ultimately did.

At that point, he allowed her to get off the bed. McNulty claims that she went to the bathroom, and "tried to pull herself together." When she emerged, she claims that Roethlisberger asked, "There are cameras on this room, aren't there?"

She responded by saying, "Yes, there are cameras everywhere."

McNulty alleges that he then seem worried, and that his tone became "stern."

"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television," he allegedly said. "You fixed my television. Now go!"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/complaint-gets-very-specific-regarding-interaction-between-mcnulty-roethlisberger/

im one who thinks kobe is an idiot for leaving evidence and being a cheater, but i dont think he is a rapist.

this chicks story is pretty much kobe's accuser's verbatim.

either she went to her school of "set up" or ben went to kobes school of rape.

worst case scenario- she threw herself at ben and he slapped her the salami.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 11:38 AM
im one who thinks kobe is an idiot for leaving evidence and being a cheater, but i dont think he is a rapist.

I agree but be careful there is an ignorant Cleveland fan trolling around here that will disagree with you

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 11:40 AM
sigh...it would have been better had he slammed his face into a windshield again this off season.

jjpro11
07-21-2009, 11:41 AM
wow.. you've got to be profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfiltering kidding me. seriously, a year later? i was one of the people that didn't believe Kobe actually raped that girl, and i do not believe this either. same thing with Mike Tyson, he was innocent as well. it's an easy cash grab for these women.

i know Ben isn't exactly the smartest cookie out there, but there is no way he is dumb and desperate enough to force himself on a profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfiltering hotel employee. dumb enough to have sex with her, maybe.. but no way is someone of that status going to rape someone when they can get any girl they want.

The Definiti0n
07-21-2009, 11:47 AM
This isn't looking good...

HAWK
07-21-2009, 11:49 AM
when I first read the headline I groaned loudly. While I don't believe Ben would do this, one never knows.

However, after reading the article, and seeing the details of no police, a whole year has passed, etc., I found it REALLY hard to believe this happened.

If Ben did hit that, then she was willing and now she's going to try and make a buck.

She should have planned it better.

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 11:49 AM
I agree but be careful i know youre just taking shots, but his stance is and always has been the same as mine. perhaps you misread something somewhere. :hunch:

The_WARDen
07-21-2009, 11:53 AM
While I don't think it's in Ben's character to do something like ths, nothing that today's athlete does really surprises me any longer.

According to the story, there were cameras all over the place...so this shouldn't be terribly difficult to prove one way or the other.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 11:56 AM
just dumb. flat out dumb.

I like how a young women left his room 20 minutes earlier and he's already at it again...seriously...pay for it or get a steady girlfriend, don't use hotel staff as your personal buffet, it never goes well.

SteelerFanInCA
07-21-2009, 11:59 AM
According to the link below from TMZ, it looks like this girl had other issues to begin with.

Bizarre Twist in Roethlisberger Assault Case
Posted Jul 21st 2009 10:24AM by TMZ Staff

Sources connected to the Ben Roethlisberger sexual assault case claim the psychiatric care the accuser says she's under has nothing to do with Ben .... it has to do with a relationship she had with a man who never existed.

Andrea McNulty has sued Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl champ, claiming he sexually assaulted her in July 2008. Sources tell us Roethlisberger and McNulty had a sexual liaison at the time but Ben insists it was purely consensual. We're told the two knew each other because Ben had stayed at Harrah's in Lake Tahoe over the last several years for golf tournaments -- and she worked at the hotel.

Sources connected with the case tell us a former co-worker of McNulty's at Harrah's came forward with this incredible story -- that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man. The man's wife, we're told, created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with McNulty to gain information. We're told the former co-worker has said McNulty fell in love with the fictitious soldier and began telling people she was engaged to him. When the wife stopped the correspondence, McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

We're told McNulty told at least one co-worker she began seeing a psychiatrist because of the phantom soldier.

We tried repeatedly getting in touch with McNulty. So far we have been unable to reach her.


http://www.tmz.com/

triphahn
07-21-2009, 12:00 PM
Sure it BS but with such serious charges hard not to be a distraction. This sucks

HAWK
07-21-2009, 12:01 PM
If she didn't go get a rape kit done then her case will be quite hard to prove.

Hopefully there's evidence to prove she's lying and not just "reasonable doubt".

revefsreleets
07-21-2009, 12:05 PM
According to the link below from TMZ, it looks like this girl had other issues to begin with.

Bizarre Twist in Roethlisberger Assault Case
Posted Jul 21st 2009 10:24AM by TMZ Staff

Sources connected to the Ben Roethlisberger sexual assault case claim the psychiatric care the accuser says she's under has nothing to do with Ben .... it has to do with a relationship she had with a man who never existed.

Andrea McNulty has sued Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl champ, claiming he sexually assaulted her in July 2008. Sources tell us Roethlisberger and McNulty had a sexual liaison at the time but Ben insists it was purely consensual. We're told the two knew each other because Ben had stayed at Harrah's in Lake Tahoe over the last several years for golf tournaments -- and she worked at the hotel.

Sources connected with the case tell us a former co-worker of McNulty's at Harrah's came forward with this incredible story -- that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man. The man's wife, we're told, created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with McNulty to gain information. We're told the former co-worker has said McNulty fell in love with the fictitious soldier and began telling people she was engaged to him. When the wife stopped the correspondence, McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

We're told McNulty told at least one co-worker she began seeing a psychiatrist because of the phantom soldier.

We tried repeatedly getting in touch with McNulty. So far we have been unable to reach her.


http://www.tmz.com/

So she's a nut. Well, that explains some things...

This will get thrown out pretty quickly...

triphahn
07-21-2009, 12:07 PM
A key thing here is that this is a civil suit not a criminal case. That this happened last year quite possible could mean a criminal investigation has found nothing and now its a money issue.

HAWK
07-21-2009, 12:08 PM
I don't see how a woman could be raped and then not call the police. It's this kind of crap that makes it hard for women.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 12:09 PM
My point is that its STUPID for Ben to have any type of relationship with Hotel Staff. Consensual relationships with Hotel Staff are fcking DUMB for someone of his high profile. Its only going to lead to lawsuits, paternity suits, possible STDs, or, worse, McNair.

Fcking Dumb. Kid needs a freaking Life Coach asap.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 12:11 PM
I don't see how a woman could be raped and then not call the police. It's this kind of crap that makes it hard for women.

Its easy actually. This would fall into the category of "date rape". A situation where you are with someone you think you can trust, then he violates that trust and takes advantage of his power, size, strength or leadership role to coeherce or "force" a woman into a situation she didn't mean to be in.

Then afterwards, who is going to believe her? I mean, he's a star athlete, of coarse she "wanted it" from him. That's how these things happen. Whether that's what happened in this case, who knows, hopefully Ben doesn't Settle, thereby proving in court after this is thrown out his Innocence.

MACH1
07-21-2009, 12:14 PM
just dumb. flat out dumb.

I like how a young women left his room 20 minutes earlier and he's already at it again...seriously...pay for it or get a steady girlfriend, don't use hotel staff as your personal buffet, it never goes well.

Sounds an awful lot like the kobe thing.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 12:16 PM
Sounds an awful lot like the kobe thing.

Sounds an awful lot like a Dumb Jock being a Stupid ArseHole and not paying attention to his position in life and knowing better than to be smart about his actions.

HAWK
07-21-2009, 12:16 PM
so do we know if he actually had intercourse with her...consensual or not?

jjpro11
07-21-2009, 12:17 PM
Ben was stupid as profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilter for messing with her.. but this sounds like the Kobe case all over again.

revefsreleets
07-21-2009, 12:18 PM
I agree but be careful there is an ignorant Cleveland fan trolling around here that will disagree with you

Wait, are you talking to me?

I knew you were pretty stupid, but I didn't realize you were also illiterate (although I'm not surprised). I made a distinct point about Kobe NOT raping that girl. He was an idiot for having sex with her, and he's a dirtball with low morals and poor character for cheating, but that does not make him a rapist.

I don't think these two cases are similar at all. Kobe had sex. I don't think Ben even did anything with this girl.

steelreserve
07-21-2009, 12:25 PM
Well, they say something like 95% of all false rape claims involve a woman who's bipolar, and she certainly seems to fit the bill.

I have no idea what Ben is like as a person, but I have a hard time believing anyone would be that dumb. I mean, you'd have to be flat-out stupid to do what this woman is claiming. Seems more likely that Ben is just an easy target because he has kind of a frat-boy reputation, though.

SteelCityMan786
07-21-2009, 12:27 PM
And the case will be dismissed. If you were sexually assaulted in July of 2008...what took you so long to sue...and why didn't you run to the police and file a report with them?

Maybe because you're a skanky lil ho who just wants some bucks.

I hope Ben files a counter lawsuit against her for defamation of character.

As it should be. Why a year later to file it? If I was the judge, the case would be dismissed as soon as it reached my desk. Not because I'm a Steelers fan, but because it's bull that she files this case so late.

Story just broke on KDKA here in the Burgh. No doubt in my mind this is a quick-rich scheme by this bitch who smells the green. :mad:

http://kdka.com/steelers/Ben.Roethlisberger.lawsuit.2.1094033.html

Lawsuit Filed Against Ben Roethlisberger

PITTSBURGH (KDKA)

It's an out-of-the blue report that broke on the internet several hours ago. Ben Roethlisberger is facing ugly accusations in a lawsuit filed in Nevada.

Within the past hour, via the Steelers, KDKA received a response from Roethlisberger's lawyer.

"This weekend Andrea McNulty served Ben Roethlisberger with a civil complaint accusing him of sexually assaulting her in July 2008. Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone; especially Andrea McNulty. The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct. If an investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated."

At this point, we don't know the specifics of the lawsuit or what Roethlisberger's relationship was, if any, with the woman bringing the suit.

The news of the suit broke online Monday night and the Steelers are sending out that response from Roethlisberger's lawyer.

This is indeed a get rich scheme. I've seen these types of cases before. Odds are this is a repeat of a certain incident that happened in 2007 at Penn State(Anyone remember the woman that accused Austin Scott?).

MACH1
07-21-2009, 12:28 PM
Well, they say something like 95% of all false rape claims involve a woman who's bipolar, and she certainly seems to fit the bill.

I have no idea what Ben is like as a person, but I have a hard time believing anyone would be that dumb. I mean, you'd have to be flat-out stupid to do what this woman is claiming. Seems more likely that Ben is just an easy target because he has kind of a frat-boy reputation, though.

And a big chunk of cash.

steelreserve
07-21-2009, 12:35 PM
And a big chunk of cash.

Money, fame, whatever. We all know it attracts crazy people like some kind of giant magnet.

The Lakelander
07-21-2009, 12:51 PM
Thank goodness Kordell had sex in a county park with a coach instead of some skank in a Vegas whorre house ... at least he could trust his manipulant. http://emoticons4u.com/crazy/069.gif

shevdog
07-21-2009, 12:53 PM
So here I am, just outside Philly, rolling into work, loading up WXDX hoping to hear some rocking news about Steelers training camp... I hear Ben's name get thrown around and for all of this. ARG!

I just got to the point that I like Ben, which it is rare for me to like a QB at all. As Captain Obvious has been saying all morning, "this ain't good".

From the little detail out there, this one is very fishy. Civil charge, not criminal? No police report? No rape kit? A year later? I know, I'm repeating what this board has already said.

From this little bit of detail, it seems Ben is innocent until proven otherwise. Forget for a moment who Ben is, if you got raped or sexually assulted, this isn't the way to go about justice. But if you are trying to cash out, well then, this is the way to go.

So if Ben is innocent and if I was Ben, I'd rather pay extra $ to clear my name then settle and bury this. But if Ben did do this, then he deserves criminal charges, not civil charges.

What would Bradshaw do? LOL!

scsteeler
07-21-2009, 01:03 PM
Thank goodness Kordell had sex in a county park with a coach instead of some skank in a Vegas whorre house ... at least he could trust his manipulant. http://emoticons4u.com/crazy/069.gif

I hope you have evidence and fact to back this statement you never know who may get this and contact you!!!!!!!!

scsteeler
07-21-2009, 01:04 PM
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/andrea_mcnulty

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2009/07/andrea_mcnulty_01_0001_Layer_6_full.jpg

:puke:



No joke to what I am about to say but this girl looks like she could be Ben's Sister or Family Member.

revefsreleets
07-21-2009, 01:09 PM
(shivering) "Yiiiiiick!"

Hines4ever
07-21-2009, 01:10 PM
NBC just posted this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/complaint-gets-very-specific-regarding-interaction-between-mcnulty-roethlisberger/

This is getting really really ugly!!!!!!!! Cheatriots and Ratbirds are having a field day!

The Lakelander
07-21-2009, 01:20 PM
I hope you have evidence and fact to back this statement you never know who may get this and contact you!!!!!!!!

Just sayin' ... rumors can be spread about anybody anytime! Kordell was no more guilty of the nasty and defammatory rumors spread about him than Ben is today. But it sure did cast a cloud over Kordell didn't it? It was even being discussed on Pittsburgh morning talk shows at the time. Sorry you missed my sarcastic slant on this one scsteeler.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 01:20 PM
If he did hit that, he had to be drunk when he did it. Just ewwww.

No criminal lawsuit, but a civil one. It's a money grab. I hope this case gets dismissed.

That story sounds so false. Nobody would answer a phone where she worked to fix a television? Bull.

Ben needs to fight this case, not settle out of court. I think his lawyer will get this case dismissed rather quickly. Not to mention the Steelers wouldn't publicly support Ben if they felt that he was in any way guilty of this.

And as for Kobe Bryant, I don't think he raped that girl either. Rough consensual sex, yes. But rape? No. I think he's a douchebag for cheating on his wife though.

And if this were Terrell Suggs? I would probably think the same thing. I hate seeing people go for cash grabs like this. Part because it hurts the athlete, second because it hurts the chances of a woman getting justice in the times an assault or rape actually does happen.

Now if this were say, Chris Henry being accused, I wouldn't be jumping to his defense with his history of poor choices.

But Ben doesn't have that history. I have a few friends that go to Miami, Ben's Alma Mater...and according to them there are many hot chicks offering up some for him when he does visit campus, and he hasn't taken them up on their offers. So why would he do it with this girl and not some hot college girls?

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 01:25 PM
NBC just posted this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/complaint-gets-very-specific-regarding-interaction-between-mcnulty-roethlisberger/

This is getting really really ugly!!!!!!!! Cheatriots and Ratbirds are having a field day!

I love all the "this doesn't surprise me, Ben Toothlessberger has no class anyhow" comments.

Ben Roethlisberger has more class in his pinky toe than any of those people have in their entire bodies.

Ask any of this sister screwing assclowns where he has shown that he has none, I would bet my life saving that they either (a) don't have an answer or (b) reply that he doesn't sign autographs for fifty hours after practice...or at a restaurant...or fueling up his SUV.

The Lakelander
07-21-2009, 01:31 PM
McNulty alleges that, on July 10, she and Roethlisberger had a conversation about fly fishing ...

http://emoticons4u.com/evil/491.gif ... guess she wasn't privy to the secret code like the previous gal who left his room.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 01:31 PM
Still, I'm sick he even put himself in this situation where an allegation like this can even make the light of day.

He needs to know better. But he's still acting like the Big man on Campus at Miami of Ohio. He's an NFL Fcking QB in the spotlight 24/7. If he doesn't like it, give back the 100 million bucks and act a fool then. Stupid arse acting like a stupid arse getting himself into this situation.

I'm pretty pisssssed that this came out about our QB. True or Not, to even have this reputation is disgusting.

BlastFurnace
07-21-2009, 01:39 PM
Still, I'm sick he even put himself in this situation where an allegation like this can even make the light of day.

He needs to know better. But he's still acting like the Big man on Campus at Miami of Ohio. He's an NFL Fcking QB in the spotlight 24/7. If he doesn't like it, give back the 100 million bucks and act a fool then. Stupid arse acting like a stupid arse getting himself into this situation.

I'm pretty pisssssed that this came out about our QB. True or Not, to even have this reputation is disgusting.

+1

The Legal process will play out one way or another, but sometimes a person's reputation can't be repaired until some time has passed.

If Tomlin hasn't given him a talk by now, you have to know that Ben has just jettisoned to the top of his list.

The Lakelander
07-21-2009, 01:43 PM
Ben should make a public statement very soon. He should do his PR work right away. It's a mistake to push it off at this point.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 01:46 PM
Ben should make a public statement very soon. He should do his PR work right away. It's a mistake to push it off at this point.

He is going to follow his lawyer's...and Art's advice. It may not be a good idea to say anything until a court hearing or two. I wouldn't be surprised if he issues a statement saying that he denies the allegations and says he will fight them, but don't expect anything more than that.

scsteeler
07-21-2009, 01:51 PM
Just sayin' ... rumors can be spread about anybody anytime! Kordell was no more guilty of the nasty and defammatory rumors spread about him than Ben is today. But it sure did cast a cloud over Kordell didn't it? It was even being discussed on Pittsburgh morning talk shows at the time. Sorry you missed my sarcastic slant on this one scsteeler.


I understand the sarcasm. I know several NFL players that are in the league now and you would not believe the rumors that get started about them and I know that there is no truth in it at all and the things that are true about some are dropped quicker than a hooker with VD.

revefsreleets
07-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Isn't this pretty much EXACTLY what happened to Jerome Bettis a few years back?

That case was dismissed.

Gnutella
07-21-2009, 01:57 PM
New member here. I just have a few comments...

1. One way or another, at least one of them lacks a good imagination, whether it's the woman for using the old "broken TV" story, or Ben for using it as a way to coax a woman into his room. If it's the latter, then the woman is an idiot too.

2. Why would Ben need to force himself on a woman who looked like that when he could get it from willing women who are better-looking? Hell, he's dated Natalie Gulbis and Missy Perygrym before.

3. The fact that the Steelers are on his side reassures me that he did nothing wrong. If he did, then they'd say stuff about how they'd "let the proceedings take their course."

4. Looks like Ben and Kobe Bryant have more in common than just a couple of championships. With that said, one major difference is that Kobe is married, so it was shitty of him to cheat on his wife. Otherwise, I think they've both been framed.

The Lakelander
07-21-2009, 02:02 PM
Nice post Gnutella!

Hines0wnz
07-21-2009, 02:14 PM
What a stupid money grabbin' hoe. It is obvious she is throwing spaghetti at a wall in hopes of getting a few dimes out of it.

Their casinos suck anyway which is why I generally stay away from them when I am in Tahoe.

The Lakelander
07-21-2009, 02:15 PM
Maybe Ben will get a starring role in a BANG! cartoon over this one?

Hines4ever
07-21-2009, 02:18 PM
2. Why would Ben need to force himself on a woman who looked like that when he could get it from willing women who are better-looking? Hell, he's dated Natalie Gulbis and Missy Perygrym before.


While I don't believe any of this and think she is just looking for her cash cow......the above argument has been made and what I've seen is a lot of women reminding every man on varying boards that rape isn't about sex.....but about power....so the "he can get it from anyone" or "she's not that attractive" doesn't really apply if he truly forced himself on her.

I have to say I am worried about the impact....Ben does NOT have the greatest of reputations where women are concerned AND he has the pattern of making bad judgments/decisions each time he wins a superbowl!!!!!!

Just IMO

trauben
07-21-2009, 02:20 PM
Reports say that she was a waitress at Harrahs...so either:

A) Harrah's Casino has the best cross-training program in the industry.
B) She is the most gullible waitress in the world.
C) Her story has more wholes than a bad guy in a Quentin Tarantino movie.
I guess what happens in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas like the commercial says? :noidea:

I don't see how a woman could be raped and then not call the police.
You're not a woman who's been raped............of course you can't see (no offense). I never reported mine. There's much shame involved! Unless you're a victim.......... you'll never understand.

That being said? I don't buy her story. Not. One. Bull. Shit. Piece. Of. It!!!!!


I agree with you 100% Preacher. I hope this is not true. I also hope that Ben and other athletes will learn their lesson someday. I would hate to see more people end up with a desparate person like McNair did with similar results. As I used to hear when I was younger..."it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt". Whether Ben is innocent or guilty, it's going to affect him in one way or another.

I don't buy it because of Jerome's situation a few years back. Same thing. His reputation is untarnished to this date!

damn that article basically says rape written all over it..just wait until this hits front page nationally..this is not good..our season could be all effed up now
Nope............again, it didn't happen when it occurred to Jerome!

Isn't this pretty much EXACTLY what happened to Jerome Bettis a few years back?

That case was dismissed.
You spoke what I was going to bring up! We need to handle this like we handled Jerome's!

Indo
07-21-2009, 02:23 PM
And all of you thought it was going to be a boring off-season...


If this (alleged) skank had to do this, I'm glad she decided to bring it out now, and not the day before the season opener. This is the type of distraction that Ben, the team, and the FO just don't need.

For the record, I don't think this amounts to anything more than a psycopathic (alleged) skank trying to get rich quick,

BUT

I also agree that Ben needs to avoid situations like this
(but who knows, maybe the (alleged) psychoskank simply checked his TV and then thought up this whole thing (a year) later and Ben is completely innocent (perhaps that's just wishful thinking))

Hines4ever
07-21-2009, 02:30 PM
Still, I'm sick he even put himself in this situation where an allegation like this can even make the light of day.

He needs to know better. But he's still acting like the Big man on Campus at Miami of Ohio. He's an NFL Fcking QB in the spotlight 24/7. If he doesn't like it, give back the 100 million bucks and act a fool then. Stupid arse acting like a stupid arse getting himself into this situation.

I'm pretty pisssssed that this came out about our QB. True or Not, to even have this reputation is disgusting.

:applaudit: I absolutely agree!!!!!!!!!!!

steelreserve
07-21-2009, 02:31 PM
the above argument has been made and what I've seen is a lot of women reminding every man on varying boards that rape isn't about sex.....but about power....so the "he can get it from anyone" or "she's not that attractive" doesn't really apply if he truly forced himself on her.

I really hate that people have become brainwashed into believing that line straight out of feminist school.

No. Rape isn't about power. I mean, fine, if you're talking about the real psychotic, jump-out-of-the-bushes-with-duct-tape type of sicko, then yes, that's a safe assumption to make. When you're talking about date rape, which is what's being alleged here, it's not about power -- more like a mix of stupidity, alcohol, and a problem with self-control.

Not that that excuses that kind of conduct or makes it any better. But when people go around saying stupid shit like "rape is about power," that's pretty demeaning to men everywhere. An attempt to boil down the male mind to some stupid caveman instinctual level, with the not-so-subtle insinuation that look out -- every one of you men just might rape somebody with no provocation just because you're all crude and obsessed with being macho! Thanks, feminism; I can do without that.

KeiselPower99
07-21-2009, 02:31 PM
NBC just posted this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/complaint-gets-very-specific-regarding-interaction-between-mcnulty-roethlisberger/

This is getting really really ugly!!!!!!!! Cheatriots and Ratbirds are having a field day!

Ok just read that and I have to say there is alot of holes in here story. They are gonna have to call in the people she was standing with amd see what they say. The place is crawling with cameras so something has to be on there and what about phone records? He called her several times.And the big one to me is this happened over a year ago why press charges now?

KeiselPower99
07-21-2009, 02:35 PM
Just saw this over on TMZ and found it interesting.

Andrea McNulty has sued Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl champ, claiming he sexually assaulted her in July 2008. Sources tell us Roethlisberger and McNulty had a sexual liaison at the time but Ben insists it was purely consensual. We're told the two knew each other because Ben had stayed at Harrah's in Lake Tahoe over the last several years for golf tournaments -- and she worked at the hotel.

Sources connected with the case tell us a former co-worker of McNulty's at Harrah's came forward with this incredible story -- that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man. The man's wife, we're told, created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with McNulty to gain information. We're told the former co-worker has said McNulty fell in love with the fictitious soldier and began telling people she was engaged to him. When the wife stopped the correspondence, McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

We're told McNulty told at least one co-worker she began seeing a psychiatrist because of the phantom soldier.

We tried repeatedly getting in touch with McNulty. So far we have been unable to reach her.

X-Terminator
07-21-2009, 02:45 PM
*sighs*

When will these frickin' athletes ever frickin' learn? Whether these allegations are true or not, Ben is a frickin' MORON for even putting himself in this situation. These guys HAVE to know that their fame and fortune puts bullseyes on their backs, so why take the chance? If he really wants women that badly, there are much better options and much better places to find them than frickin' casinos, or bars or crappy restaurants! :doh:

I should have known this quiet offseason wouldn't last. Thanks Ben!

And for the record, I am withholding judgment until all the facts are known.

Fire Haley
07-21-2009, 02:47 PM
I bet Dennis Dixon paid for all this.

BlastFurnace
07-21-2009, 02:53 PM
I bet Dennis Dixon paid for all this.

I blame it on Arians. Perhaps George W. had something to do with it as well.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 02:58 PM
Still, I'm sick he even put himself in this situation where an allegation like this can even make the light of day.

yeah, he should never leave his house and be a virgin :rollseyes:

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:00 PM
When will these frickin' athletes ever frickin' learn? Whether these allegations are true or not, Ben is a frickin' MORON for even putting himself in this situation.

you are right, he should not have sex with women

scsteeler
07-21-2009, 03:13 PM
While I personally think this is about money I will say that if this turns out to have any validity to it this may be very damaging to his career.

I will not resort to calling this women vulgar names based on my believes you have to know the facts before you can make a true judgment but you can have your opinion.

OX1947
07-21-2009, 03:17 PM
While I don't believe any of this and think she is just looking for her cash cow......the above argument has been made and what I've seen is a lot of women reminding every man on varying boards that rape isn't about sex.....but about power....so the "he can get it from anyone" or "she's not that attractive" doesn't really apply if he truly forced himself on her.

I have to say I am worried about the impact....Ben does NOT have the greatest of reputations where women are concerned AND he has the pattern of making bad judgments/decisions each time he wins a superbowl!!!!!!

Just IMO

It happened last year.

Edman
07-21-2009, 03:17 PM
If there is anything I'm going to fault Ben for, it's putting himself in this situation. He's a profile athlete. What may have be normal for the average Joe won't fly normally is you're famous. Even if it were consensual, he should've known that this woman would try to pull something over on him and get into his wallet.

Even if Ben is innocent and the case is thrown out, the damage is already done. It's a distraction. Sometimes even being accused is enough to destroy reputation.

Really sad.

steelreserve
07-21-2009, 03:19 PM
I blame it on Arians. Perhaps Bush had something to do with it as well.

No way. Everyone knows it's Parker's fault.

The one question that remains to be answered: How many extra draft picks are the Patriots going to be awarded because of this?

X-Terminator
07-21-2009, 03:21 PM
you are right, he should not have sex with women

Don't be dense. You know very well what I'm talking about. I don't care if Ben has sex with a million women - it's the fact that his fame and fortune makes him target that should make him more selective when it comes to having sex with women. I see you conveniently left that part of my post out of your quote. I thought I made that quite clear.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:24 PM
Don't be dense. You know very well what I'm talking about.

No, I have no idea what you are talking about

All we know for sure is that Ben stayed at a casino and may or may not have had sex with a woman. I'll hold my judgement untill more facts come out. This is america and people are innocent untill proven guilty

Also, there is nothing wrong with staying at a casino or having consensual sex with a woman

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:26 PM
yeah, he should never leave his house and be a virgin :rollseyes:

Do you just look for reasons to disagree with me or are you simply a moron?

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:27 PM
No, I have no idea what you are talking about

All we know for sure is that Ben stayed at a casino and may or may not have had sex with a woman. I'll hold my judgement untill more facts come out. This is america and people are innocent untill proven guilty

Also, there is nothing wrong with staying at a casino or having consensual sex with a woman

Actually, there is plenty wrong with a High Profile athlete having unprotected sexual relations with an Employee of the establishment where he is staying.

X-Terminator
07-21-2009, 03:28 PM
No, I have no idea what you are talking about

All we know for sure is that Ben stayed at a casino and may or may not have had sex with a woman. I'll hold my judgement untill more facts come out. This is america and people are innocent untill proven guilty

Also, there is nothing wrong with staying at a casino or having consensual sex with a woman

Maybe if you'd quit snipping out parts of my posts where I EXPLAIN it, maybe you'd understand what I'm talking about.

Whether the allegations are true or not, Ben STILL has to be SMARTER about what he does in his private life and the women he chooses, because of his status. Again, I cannot be any clearer than that.

And I believe I also said that I am withholding judgment one way or the other until the facts come out.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:29 PM
Actually, there is plenty wrong with a High Profile athlete having unprotected sexual relations with an Employee of the establishment where he is staying.

not if the sex is consensual.

if anything she is in the wrong

and how do you know the sex was unprotected? :noidea:

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:32 PM
Maybe if you'd quit snipping out parts of my posts where I EXPLAIN it, maybe you'd understand what I'm talking about.

Whether the allegations are true or not, Ben STILL has to be SMARTER about what he does in his private life and the women he chooses, because of his status. Again, I cannot be any clearer than that.

Ummm, have you seen the photos of Ben partying with girls and drinking Patron?

Some people like to party and have sex with women. Yeah he should be more careful and probably will as he gets older. But in this case, we dont know if he did anything wrong yet. Staying at a hotel and having sex with a woman is not a crime

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:33 PM
Do you just look for reasons to disagree with me or are you simply a moron?

i am not a moron

i think people like you that overreact without knowing all the facts are morons

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:34 PM
not if the sex is consensual

and how do you know the sex was unprotected? :noidea:

That's her story. I wasn't in the room so I can't be sure, and Had I been in the room I would have told Ben not FCK a Hotel Employee and to hire a GodDamnHooker that isn't going to accuse him of anything shady.

Plus, yes, it is dumb to have sexx with the staff. Its just not a Smart Choice. Especially if you intend on ever going back to that same Hotel.

X-Terminator
07-21-2009, 03:34 PM
Ummm, have you seen the photos of Ben partying with girls and drinking Patron?

Some people like to party and have sex with women. Yeah he should be more careful and probably will as he gets older. But in this case, we dont know if he did anything wrong yet. Staying at a hotel and having sex with a woman is not a crime

Uh, yeah I know that. And I didn't say he did anything wrong! I didn't say he didn't either, for that matter. I just simply said he should be smarter in what he does. There are too many athletes out there who get caught up in the lifestyle and don't think about the consequences, many times until it's too late.

alittlejazzbird
07-21-2009, 03:35 PM
Hey everyone...

Here's what I find interesting, and why I really want to see a copy of that complaint...from ProFootballTalk.com:

The source alleges that McNulty was involved a bizarre episode that is unrelated to Roethlisberger. TMZ reports that McNulty received psychiatric care as a result of the incident.

The accusations about McNulty are not exactly surprising.

In fact, they are essentially contained in the civil case that PFT has been able to look at.

McNulty is suing many Harrah's employees for making false and inflammatory statements about her physical and mental health.

McNulty claims in the case that any hospital stay was related to being sexually assaulted.

She also alleges that the defendants/co-workers made inflammatory statements about her "relationship with other men" and accused her of serious sexual misconduct.

She is claiming that she sustained damage to her profession as a direct and indirect result of such statements.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/more-details-about-roethlisbergers-accuser/

Ben has already admitted to having a physical relationship with this woman. He's young, single, famous, and rich, and I personally don't begrudge him the right to hook up with chickies if he wants to. Every once in awhile, though, one of these unstable nutcases comes along and this is the price these guys pay for figuring they can do whatever they want, whenever they want.

My guess as to how this will play out: this woman (who I think is in her early-mid 30s, so not exactly that young and stupid) hooked up with Ben -- maybe on more than one occasion, since he's been to that hotel before -- and made some assumptions about their relationship which he did not share. When it turned out that she was just a casual encounter for him, she freaked out and decided to punish him by filing this suit. Her co-workers realized what was happening and probably came forward to tell their superiors what kind of life she had been living (imaginary boyfriends, married lovers, "serious sexual misconduct," etc.), so she sued them as well.

Time will tell, but working in the legal profession, I've seen enough of these types of suits to recognize the pattern.

And for the record, if Ben did do what she claims....then he deserves to be punished to the fullest extent possible by both the NFL and the law. It's hard for me to reconcile Ben's public personality with someone who could be violent and aggressive toward a woman, but hey, if he did it, then he deserves what he gets. No matter which way I look at it, though, I smell a rat, and so far, the wind is coming from her direction, not his.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:37 PM
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/andrea_mcnulty

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2009/07/andrea_mcnulty_01_0001_Layer_6_full.jpg

:puke:

LOL, now I understand Ben's lawyer's statement :chuckle:

X-Terminator
07-21-2009, 03:38 PM
That's her story. I wasn't in the room so I can't be sure, and Had I been in the room I would have told Ben not FCK a Hotel Employee and to hire a GodDamnHooker that isn't going to accuse him of anything shady.

Plus, yes, it is dumb to have sexx with the staff. Its just not a Smart Choice. Especially if you intend on ever going back to that same Hotel.

Yeah, because we all know hookers have never tried to accuse anyone of anything shady when in reality nothing happened other than a successful transaction. :noidea:

How about this...be a better judge of character and "talent," so to speak. It works in the sports world...it also works in real life and relationships.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:39 PM
As fans we should be careful not to attack this woman to harshly. I'd hate to be the single person that draws the ire of an entire Steelers nation.

I'd like to see us have more class than someone who would file a false claim, if that's what this woman has done.

Hopefully, our QB isn't a Sexual Deviant and Predator. I'd like to see him fight these charges, have them thrown out and have the record cleared.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:40 PM
That's her story. I wasn't in the room so I can't be sure, and Had I been in the room I would have told Ben not FCK a Hotel Employee and to hire a GodDamnHooker that isn't going to accuse him of anything shady.

Plus, yes, it is dumb to have sexx with the staff. Its just not a Smart Choice. Especially if you intend on ever going back to that same Hotel.

Wait, so it's okay to get a hooker but not have consensual sex with a hotel employee

you make no sense at all

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:42 PM
Yeah, because we all know hookers have never tried to accuse anyone of anything shady when in reality nothing happened other than a successful transaction. :noidea:

How about this...be a better judge of character and "talent," so to speak. It works in the sports world...it also works in real life and relationships.

yeah, hooker would have been a bad idea too. my mistake, I'm just peeved that he'd even put himself in a situation where this could even be suggested.

To go this far, there must be video of her entering his room, first and foremost. Then, what happens in that room is all he said, she said. That's a difficult situation to prove on dis-prove. He'd be better off dating a Super Model or Pro Athlete, not messing around like a Stupid Jock. But then again, I suppose he is a Stupid Jock.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:45 PM
Wait, so it's okay to get a hooker but not have consensual sex with a hotel employee

you make no sense at all

If it was legal in the city. Not sure, is Prostitution legal in Reno?

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:47 PM
If it was legal in the city. Not sure, is Prostitution legal in Reno?

i think it's legal everywhere in Nevada except Las Vegas but still I wouldn't trust a hooker at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Look. Here is the point.

Having sex with the Staff is never a good idea and is not smart. First off, she's on the clock right? So she can lose her job for doing something on the clock, like having sex that wasn't part of her work day. So its dumb for her to do. If she wants to meet up after he shift, that's one thing, but then again, I'd suggest you leave the building. She probably has a rule in her HR file that says specifically, No Fratenizing with the Guests. So right there, its bad. Now for him, its dumb. Its a place you may visit again, or spend a couple days at. Why would you want that "awkward" feeling of seeing the girl day after day? Plus how many times to we see Celebs get in trouble with Hotel Staff? It seems to happen often, or Staff of places they visit. Wanna date, go on a date, wanna a quick roll in the sack, Hire Someone if its Legal or Pick up a Single Chick in the bar, don't just bang the staff. That's Pretty Dumb.

AllD
07-21-2009, 03:50 PM
He has casual sex with a hotel employee who turns out to be a psycho. Then she shows him how psycho she can get and takes the voices in her head and invents a way to get back at him because he won't take her seriously.

Obviously Big Ben was thinking with Little Ben and got himself a bunch of headaches, no pun intended. He should have told her he was Charlie Sheen.

Michael Vick is saying "Thank You" for getting him off the front page and Favre is pissed because nobody is paying any attention to his bullsheet.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:51 PM
Now its a he said she said. If he claims (which we don't know) that there was no sexual encounter at all, then maybe she's just a nutjob with dillusions, but if he turns around and says "yeah we did it but she said yes" then we have have a he said she said and that's just plain ugly.

Here's the thing with non-staff. I take a chick to my room, the burden of proof is already on my side, why did she go to my room when I invited her up for a drink with a wink and smile (Tyson excluded). I told the girl lets go to my room, hint hint, she did, we got it on, I didn't call her, she got pissssed and said rape, That's One Thing.

STAFF
Can say you called them to the room for a Hotel Service and then turn that around to say you used it as a pretext to get them to show up, kept them from leaving (kidnapping) had you way with them (rape) then told them to keep their mouth shut or you'd cost them their job.

See the difference, Never Get Involved with Staff.

Fire Haley
07-21-2009, 03:52 PM
I say it's all a crock. No criminal investigation, no police report, nothing, just the civil complaint.

Civil lawsuit = "He said - she said".

redst3
07-21-2009, 03:53 PM
I am quite surprised and a little disappointed here.

Just because it is against a Steeler QB that we like, immediately this woman is a "skank" a "ho" and a "money grub" ?

My first thought... Ben is targeted, however, I do not know what happened, and I refuse to type the accuser because she is accusing Ben of something I don't like.

This really is a valid point. The internet seems to bring out the worst in people.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 03:53 PM
I say he's still wrong if he had any type of sex with this girl who was on Staff at the Hotel he was staying at. To me that's a very irresponsible action.

Did he force her, guess we'll see.

If he did anything with her, was he dumb, I say yes.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:54 PM
is this girl also a tv-repair person at the hotel?

alittlejazzbird
07-21-2009, 03:54 PM
The Post-Gazette finally has the complaint available for review:

http://www.post-gazette.com/downloads/20090721_roethlisberger.pdf

redst3
07-21-2009, 03:55 PM
I say it's all a crock. No criminal investigation, no police report, nothing, just the civil complaint.

Civil lawsuit = "He said - she said".

I suspect this will be about as valid as when that woman and her Uncle tried to scam Jerome Bettis a few years back.

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Whether he did it or not. He should face jail time for hooking up with that gopher lookin bitch.

I would like to think that if ben could and would do better then that snaggle tooth.


edit:

if she gets paid, then I will file a civil suit as well saying that ben forced butt sex and cuddling upon me against my will.

lmao, he must have been wasted!

kittenfantastico76
07-21-2009, 03:59 PM
my boss and I were discussing this today - and he said I bet it if was a Ravens player or some other team you aren't fond of you'd think the guy was guilty right? And I said frankly... "No, honestly I think majority of the time people are in it for the money." I don't like to hear about ANY famous role models or sports starts falling from grace, regardless of their team. Sure it's fun to jab friends every now and then about the characters on their teams, BUT in the end these guys are people children look up to...

In the end my gut tells me that this girl is in it for the money, and I hope I'm right!

And if I am right - I hope that Ben would counter suit for defamation of character!!!

AllD
07-21-2009, 04:00 PM
i pretty much agree with evrything u just said.. and going off of nevada he could of went to the cat house ranch or w/e the place is called...

just another broad trying to make money



You're thinking of The Bunny Ranch. :flap:

MasterOfPuppets
07-21-2009, 04:01 PM
i think it's legal everywhere in Nevada except Las Vegas but still I wouldn't trust a hooker at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nevada is one of only two U.S. states that allow some legal prostitution; in most of its rural counties brothels are legalized and heavily regulated. (In Rhode Island, the act of sex for money is not illegal, but operating a brothel, pimping and street prostitution are illegal.) Prostitution outside the licensed brothels is illegal throughout Nevada. Contrary to popular belief, prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas (and in Clark County which contains its metropolitan area). Currently 8 out of Nevada's 16 counties have active brothels; as of June/July 2008 there were 28 legal brothels in Nevada:noidea:

AllD
07-21-2009, 04:02 PM
Wow....this is not the first thing one likes to read in the morning. Whatever happens, I hope Ben does not give this woman one cent. That is the only way he will keep his name clear of any wrong doing.


I hope he used a rubber and didn't catch anything. :hug:

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 04:03 PM
is this girl also a tv-repair person at the hotel?

probably not, and she was probably all up in his space and flirting with him over and over again and used the "come fix my tv" as a line to get her into the room.

Galax Steeler
07-21-2009, 04:04 PM
She looks like a skanky wh_ore to me.

kittenfantastico76
07-21-2009, 04:05 PM
p.s. my face is read at the fact this is the first time I've had a chance to be back to the board in a while - my "off season" has been busy! But I had to come back to see what everyone discussed on here. I'm happy to see we are all in high hopes for Mr. Roethlisberger.

AllD
07-21-2009, 04:06 PM
How many remote controls are the Ratbird fans going to throw on the field when we play them?

Steel Head
07-21-2009, 04:08 PM
probably not, and she was probably all up in his space and flirting with him over and over again and used the "come fix my tv" as a line to get her into the room.

typically maintenance people go to guests rooms, not nasty skanks so that's another thing she did wrong

Harrah's should sue this skank

AllD
07-21-2009, 04:10 PM
lmao, he must have been wasted!

10pm local time, 1am EST. She has a 6 beer 2am face. Are we sure she wasn't riding on the handle bars of the 'Busa? :rofl:

Indo
07-21-2009, 04:13 PM
Also, there is nothing wrong with staying at a casino or having consensual sex with a woman


OK. But That woman?

I'm just sayin'...

kittenfantastico76
07-21-2009, 04:17 PM
New member here. I just have a few comments...

1. One way or another, at least one of them lacks a good imagination, whether it's the woman for using the old "broken TV" story, or Ben for using it as a way to coax a woman into his room. If it's the latter, then the woman is an idiot too.

2. Why would Ben need to force himself on a woman who looked like that when he could get it from willing women who are better-looking? Hell, he's dated Natalie Gulbis and Missy Perygrym before.

3. The fact that the Steelers are on his side reassures me that he did nothing wrong. If he did, then they'd say stuff about how they'd "let the proceedings take their course."

4. Looks like Ben and Kobe Bryant have more in common than just a couple of championships. With that said, one major difference is that Kobe is married, so it was shitty of him to cheat on his wife. Otherwise, I think they've both been framed.

Well put indeed! Especially #2, I would have loaned myself for this act willingly :wave::laughing: I don't know if I could claim I was better looking than this Andrea woman but I would like to think I could.

Gnutella
07-21-2009, 04:24 PM
I just read the document from the Post-Gazette, and now I feel sick. I hope that this isn't true.

Rek
07-21-2009, 04:28 PM
I ain't buying this shit, seems way too fishy.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 04:35 PM
I just read the document from the Post-Gazette, and now I feel sick. I hope that this isn't true.

Ditto. Feel the same way.

Now I think he'll pay her to go away. That would be the worst.

Fire Haley
07-21-2009, 04:36 PM
Not even with Dino's dick

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/07/0721_ben_accuser_launch.jpg

X-Terminator
07-21-2009, 04:38 PM
I just read the complaint too...and it doesn't look good. Still though, that is only one side of the argument. I will wait to see what Ben's side is before making any kind of judgment.

I still go back to my original point. Ben's an idiot for getting himself into this situation, period.

alittlejazzbird
07-21-2009, 04:49 PM
I just read the document from the Post-Gazette, and now I feel sick. I hope that this isn't true.

Civil complaints always sound very dire - her attorney is doing a good job for her.

Take a deep breath. There is much in that complaint that just doesn't wash. Ask yourself this question: why would the very highest levels of Harrah's management go to the lengths of entering (under false pretenses) the home of a low-to mid-level employee to confiscate her computer in order to cover up a football player's sexual misdeeds?

Losing a relationship with and future business from Ben Roethlisberger would not be worth a vast conspiracy (including potentially committing their own crimes by practically breaking and entering) to cover up a criminal act, and any senior executive at that hotel is well aware of it. If there was legitimate proof, or strong suspicion, that the woman was credible and being honest, someone would have helped her.

There is way more to the story of this accuser - watch her former "friends" and co-workers start crawling out of the woodwork to tell what they know.

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 04:51 PM
I hope it turns out she's a nutbag and then eventually these charges get dropped and she gets the help she needs.

I hope Ben didn't do this in anyway.

redst3
07-21-2009, 04:56 PM
I read it and I don't believe it. Something doesnt sound right about it.

Gnutella
07-21-2009, 05:01 PM
I did wonder if the plaintiff accusing her coworkers of destroying evidence is a way to account for a lack thereof?

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 05:07 PM
Not even with Dino's dick



HAHA!

:hatsoff:

Fire Haley
07-21-2009, 05:09 PM
Can I say that here?

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
07-21-2009, 05:09 PM
If Ben did.... he is stupid because he ruined his career....
BUT.... I dont see Ben doing something like this...
Maybe shes lookin for some money?

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 05:10 PM
Can I say that here?

No, but you did.

BlastFurnace
07-21-2009, 05:11 PM
I hope he used a rubber and didn't catch anything. :hug:

I hope you're more concerned about than that.

Ben's integrity is at stake here. I hope he is a man that has more respect for women than someone who would do something like this. Disease is a concern...but a man who would rape a woman is a dirtbag in my eyes...Steeler or not.

Truth of the matter is, none of us know what transpired. Does it sound fishy....a little. Is it possible that Ben did so something like this...I think it is possible.

It's another example of why athletes need to be careful of everything they do and everywhere they go. That is the price of being wealthy and famous in this world.

I hope this comes out that she is just trying to get money, but until the legality of all of this takes it's course, no-one can be sure how much of this is true or not.

Preacher
07-21-2009, 05:17 PM
I am sorry, but this thread is SICKENING.

So many passing judgment on a woman... let's see your wife, daughter, mother accuse someone of these things. . . how you you react if they called you daughter a ho. Your mother a skank, your wife a bitch.

Any of the women in your life accuses Ocho Stinko of this, what would you be saying if the Bengals fans had some posts in this thread on their board?

Absolutely sickening.

And FOR THE RECORD. I am not talking about those who are looking at the complaint and asking questions. I am doing the same thing and have some serious issues with it. But before we cast judgement EITHER WAY. . . let's wait until all the facts come out...maybe?

Bye the way, the REASON MANY WOMAN DONT COME FORWARD IS BECAUSE OF THE CRAP THAT IS SAID ABOUT THEM.... And I offer you this tread as exhibit A.

Absolutely friggen disgusted right now with some of the people here.

Preacher
07-21-2009, 05:21 PM
Civil complaints always sound very dire - her attorney is doing a good job for her.

Take a deep breath. There is much in that complaint that just doesn't wash. Ask yourself this question: why would the very highest levels of Harrah's management go to the lengths of entering (under false pretenses) the home of a low-to mid-level employee to confiscate her computer in order to cover up a football player's sexual misdeeds?

Losing a relationship with and future business from Ben Roethlisberger would not be worth a vast conspiracy (including potentially committing their own crimes by practically breaking and entering) to cover up a criminal act, and any senior executive at that hotel is well aware of it. If there was legitimate proof, or strong suspicion, that the woman was credible and being honest, someone would have helped her.

There is way more to the story of this accuser - watch her former "friends" and co-workers start crawling out of the woodwork to tell what they know.

See... now THAT makes sense.

You are exactly right. There is a lot of stuff that really does not fit.

________________

And honestly, if you are a famous person... USE A VIDEOTAPE. I am not being crass. It easily becomes exhibit A in a trial.

Dodt
07-21-2009, 05:22 PM
I'd like to think she's lying, but I know from experience that there are many people who seem perfectly decent that are actually effed up in the head and capable of terrible things. Still, the (apparent) lack of criminal charges are really hurting her credibility.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 05:29 PM
You should hear all the Browns fans here.

It's cool to call Big Ben a rapist...but accuse Brady Quinn of being a homosexual and you deserve to have your nuts cut off.

Browns fans deserve to get a staph infection in their balls.

WindyCitySteelerFan
07-21-2009, 05:30 PM
I wonder if the TV got fixed?

LOL

I don't buy this for a second, no criminal case was mentioned Sounds like someone looking for a quick buck to me...

Dino 6 Rings
07-21-2009, 05:36 PM
You should hear all the Browns fans here.

It's cool to call Big Ben a rapist...but accuse Brady Quinn of being a homosexual and you deserve to have your nuts cut off.
.

That's only because its true about Quinn and it hurts their feelings.

Neil-Still-Rules-14
07-21-2009, 05:39 PM
Yeah, this is the oldest trick in the book as far as women and rich and famous athletes go. If supposedly everyone in the company is colluding against her, it leaves no evidence at all. So she can raise a case sans evidence.

BlastFurnace
07-21-2009, 05:42 PM
You should hear all the Browns fans here.

It's cool to call Big Ben a rapist...but accuse Brady Quinn of being a homosexual and you deserve to have your nuts cut off.

Browns fans deserve to get a staph infection in their balls.

The worst part of their laughing at us is....that they are still the Browns.

With Ben...without Ben....that doesn't make their franchise any better.

therocksteeler
07-21-2009, 05:57 PM
I got it, judge shows up with #7 jersey on and states to the court, "Any questions?"

On a serious side I hope "Miss Nutty's" 15 seconds of fame tick fast and follow her forever. She sounds from what I have read as a wack job to begin with.

Next on her hit list I bet is Jim Carey for his role in the "Cable Guy".

NJarhead
07-21-2009, 06:01 PM
I know I'm a little late in responding, but I still want to add my $.02.

CROCK OF SH*T!

I hope that after Ben wins the case he counter-sues her for everything she has (even though I know he wouldn't do that).

So pissed right now...

SteelRNation
07-21-2009, 06:06 PM
This silly girl who was a host claims that Ben called her and said his tv wasnt working. So, she claims she couldnt find anyone to fix it, so she decided to go up there and try to fix it herself. Because she was told to PLEASE the celebrities. Once again...she was told to PLEASE the celebrities. Anyone else smell a woman trying to get paid? If Ben is smart he will counter sue for defamation of character and send her and her family right into the poorhouse.

HometownGal
07-21-2009, 06:10 PM
Can I say that here?

Normally, no, but in light of the :bs: of this entire story, I'll make an exception. :thumbsup:

Damn - this chick could eat apples through a picket fence. :beaver:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/07/0721_ben_accuser_launch.jpg

MasterOfPuppets
07-21-2009, 06:11 PM
84. Very shocked and upset, Plaintiff got up and immediately went into the
bathroom, where she splashed water on her face, and tried to pull herself together. ok you just raped me... may i use the bathroom to "freshen up", before i go ? :doh:

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 06:15 PM
There's nothing about her that's even pretty. I am sucker for a pretty smile and great eyes, this woman has neither.

I won't allow myself to believe that he would hit that, much less force himself on her.

I mean ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

stillers4me
07-21-2009, 06:16 PM
I just pray it really is a crock of shit and he ends up suing HER for defamation character.

The whole thing makes me sick.

SteelCityMan786
07-21-2009, 06:16 PM
I just read the complaint and I can say that the woman is purely in it for the money. Especially whenever Ben can land more high profile women.

SteelCityMan786
07-21-2009, 06:17 PM
I just pray it really is a crock of shit and he ends up suing HER for defamation character.

The whole thing makes me sick.

He should to. This case is comparable to the Kobe Bryant case and the Austin Scott case from a couple of years ago. This appears to be a case of women trying to get money.

MasterOfPuppets
07-21-2009, 06:20 PM
He should to. This case is comparable to the Kobe Bryant case and the Austin Scott case from a couple of years ago. This appears to be a case of women trying to get money. didn't jerome have a similiar situation ?....but yeah...i'd take pictures of my former ladies to court and say... look at these...now look at that....nuff said...

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 06:22 PM
didn't jerome have a similiar situation ?

Yes! Some woman said he tried to rape her in a bowling alley parking lot when she asked him to sign a football for her son. Video showed that he signed a few things and then left for home.

Galax Steeler
07-21-2009, 06:24 PM
Normally, no, but in light of the :bs: of this entire story, I'll make an exception. :thumbsup:

Damn - this chick could eat apples through a picket fence. :beaver:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/07/0721_ben_accuser_launch.jpg

Agreed.:toofunny:

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 06:24 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/07/0721_ben_accuser_launch.jpg

Shave that dog and teach it to hunt! :yuck:

stillers4me
07-21-2009, 06:25 PM
Hopefully, this whole thing gets dropped and Ben gets cured of the whole gambling thing.

MasterOfPuppets
07-21-2009, 06:26 PM
she looks more like something clinton would tag...:popcorn:

AllD
07-21-2009, 06:27 PM
She should hang around NASCAR drivers with that hillbilly look.

StainlessStill
07-21-2009, 06:41 PM
Anybody remember what happened to Bettis? The same result is going to be happening with this case.. dropped!

I read the whole post-gazette article and can't help but laugh. This chick obviously has mental issues, and I can't wait for it to be proven. This already looks bad on her side of things.

Do you honesty think Ben is that retarded? Given his high profile, you think he's going to rape a women who works for the hotel he is staying at? Holy shit is this nonsense.

The part in the Post Gazette where it states that after the accuser was "raped" she then went off to the bathroom to freshen up. (Why would you go to the bathroom to freshen up after being raped? If that were me, or anyone for that matter, I would be yelling on the top of my lungs screaming bloody murder.)

The funny part is, after that she came out and he asked her if there were any camera's. She said camera's were everywhere. He said if anyone asks, that she just fixed his TV, and he said.. "now go!" That is hysterical.

This is a ploy set up my a physco who is money hungry and took the opportunity to get some mad bucks off of a celebrity. Plain and simple. Period. Her background already PROVES that she is a nut. Nice try, bimbo,

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 07:00 PM
She should hang around NASCAR drivers with that hillbilly look.even nascar drivers wouldnt bang her.

im suprised nobody has mentioned that ben was in tahoe again last weekend and she all of a sudden, files the suit on monday.

doesnt it seem like he rejected her booty call and pretended not to know her?

"hey ben, remember me? im that girl who licked that other girls juices offa your balls last year".

ben- "uh, no." :cya:

sounds like a sour grape, rejected, "i'll get you", claim to me.

stillers4me
07-21-2009, 07:13 PM
If there are cameras in the rooms at Harrah's, remind me not to book a room there. :yikes:

Actually, I think Tony's got it right on the money.

Now go! :chuckle:

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 07:25 PM
ben knew there were cameras everywhere but he's just going to go ahead and rape her anyways? :rolleyes:

what if she screamed?

why would he leave a giant pile of spooge on her stomach (that could be collected as evidence) if he was so concerned about not getting caught?

who the hell hangs out in their room at 10 pm on a friday night in a tahoe casino except people taking booty calls?

i really cant blame ben for slumming, after all he is a jock. thats what jocks do. :chuckle:

jasonhightower
07-21-2009, 07:37 PM
I know I'm a little late in responding, but I still want to add my $.02.

CROCK OF SH*T!

I hope that after Ben wins the case he counter-sues her for everything she has (even though I know he wouldn't do that).

So pissed right now...

I am with you on this one. I hope everything about her is exposed now and she regrets doing this, along with the sleezeball lawyer who has the nuts to actually take this on...

Frickin' horsetoothed hoe...

jasonhightower
07-21-2009, 07:38 PM
i really cant blame ben for slumming, after all he is a jock. thats what jocks do. :chuckle:

True dat, sometimes the best stuff is the easiest stuff...

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 07:38 PM
Looked at her picture...and I thought Elway looked like a horseface.

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 07:42 PM
I hope that after Ben wins the case he counter-sues her for everything she has (even though I know he wouldn't do that).

Yep, just once I'd like to see one of these golddiggers get financially ruined by a pro athlete who doesn't just pay to conveniently make things go away after an unfounded accusation and actually goes through with the inconvenience of a civil trial seen through to its end.

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 07:42 PM
NFL from the sidelines

After hobnobbing around the NFL in the press boxes and sidelines, sports reporter Dale Lolley will let you know the insider scoop

Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Something fishy with Roethlisberger suit

As you've probably heard by now, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has been served with a civil suit in Nevada for sexual assault by an employee of Harrah's Casino.

The whole thing sounds a little fishy.

First, there were no criminal charges issued in the alleged event.

And then there's the trouble with when the alleged event – whatever it may be – happened, July 2008.

Roethlisberger has been known to mess around with women. Heck, he's young, rich and famous.

But this seems like an attempt at a money grab.
Posted by Dale Lolley at 12:00 AM 15 comments Links to this post

(Something fishy! This smells like a ho house at low tide! - mesa)

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 07:43 PM
Yep, just once I'd like to see one of these golddiggers get financially ruined by a pro athlete who doesn't just pay to conveniently make things go away after an unfounded accusation.

I think it might happen this time. I don't think Big Ben wants to pay her off and make this go away, I think he wants his innocence to be known. It's just a gut feeling I have.

stillers4me
07-21-2009, 07:45 PM
I think it might happen this time. I don't think Big Ben wants to pay her off and make this go away, I think he wants his innocence to be known. It's just a gut feeling I have.

Don't ever bet against Big Ben.

Besides, he can afford a better lawyer.

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 07:47 PM
Besides, he can afford a better lawyer.

Exactly. And I hope he sees it through to the end and stomps a mudhole in her ass for good measure.

jasonhightower
07-21-2009, 07:49 PM
This story isn't even on the homepage of ESPN or the ESPN NFL page... they must know its BS!

NJarhead
07-21-2009, 07:51 PM
Normally, no, but in light of the :bs: of this entire story, I'll make an exception. :thumbsup:

Damn - this chick could eat apples through a picket fence. :beaver:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/07/0721_ben_accuser_launch.jpg

or chase a bulldog off a meat truck. Dayum.

Yeah Honey, Ben is so hard up that he needs to "sexually assault" YOU.

Again, what a crock.

:coffee:

WindyCitySteelerFan
07-21-2009, 07:52 PM
Its all BS.. No one is giving it much coverage at all. Its going to be hard to prove any wrong doing without a criminal case.

She's so full of crap, money grubbing profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilterprofanityfilter.

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 07:54 PM
::blah::blah::blah::blah::tt02::rofl::rofl::rofl:: rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::ap plaudit: this lady is full of fodder ! She is most likely an un- medicated bi polar crazy freakaziod before she clams it even happened. If Ben did do it ( which I SERIOUSLY DOUBT ! ) then he has a very bad taste in women :noidea:and if drinking was involved AHHHH Noway Ben would pass out before he would hit that. :mad: May the flees of a 1000 camels rest in your arm pits MS. Liar :tt03::tt:

stillers4me
07-21-2009, 07:59 PM
Honestly, I don't think she's all that bad looking. :noidea: Maybe it was her personalities that made her attractive to him. :chuckle:

I wonder if he's still dating MIssy. Now she's a real cutie.

Fire Haley
07-21-2009, 07:59 PM
Its all BS.. No one is giving it much coverage at all. .

It's all over NFL Total Access now.

This story will NOT go away.

Steelers haters will have a field day.

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 08:02 PM
she looks more like something clinton would tag...:popcorn:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 08:05 PM
More details about Roethlisberger's accuser
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 21, 2009 2:02 PM ET
Less than 24 hours ago, Andrea McNulty filed a civil sexual assault case against Ben Roethlisberger. It's safe to say curiosity about her is already piqued.

TMZ has released seven pictures which they report to be of McNulty.

Other sites have alleged links to her myspace page, but they are unconfirmed.

We can confirm McNulty is a Canadian immigrant who had a visa to work at Harrah's Casino in Lake Tahoe.

Our source also told us on Monday the exact same story that Mr. Florio passed along from TMZ Tuesday morning.

The source alleges that McNulty was involved a bizarre episode that is unrelated to Roethlisberger. TMZ reports that McNulty received psychiatric care as a result of the incident.

The accusations about McNulty are not exactly surprising.

In fact, they are essentially contained in the civil case that PFT has been able to look at.

McNulty is suing many Harrah's employees for making false and inflammatory statements about her physical and mental health.

McNulty claims in the case that any hospital stay was related to being sexually assaulted.

She also alleges that the defendants/co-workers made inflammatory statements about her "relationship with other men" and accused her of serious sexual misconduct.

She is claiming that she sustained damage to her profession as a direct and indirect result of such statements.

As the story grows, which is inevitable despite ESPN's efforts, we will surely continue to learn plenty more about McNulty.

(McNUTTY is psychoHO who is only after money. - mesa)

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 08:10 PM
Don't ever bet against Big Ben.

Besides, he can afford a better lawyer.

I would hope so.

Fire Haley
07-21-2009, 08:14 PM
How many of these threads are you gonna start?

A good mod would know what to do.

jcdavey08
07-21-2009, 08:29 PM
saw this at PFT and other places

sounds like she's just another gold digging psycho profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilterprofanityfilter

seen her pics, ben must have been realllllllllly drunk that night

jcdavey08
07-21-2009, 08:33 PM
oh and .....

Merriman's lawyer, David Cornwell

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2636523


they share the same lawyer (maybe he's the nflpa's lawyer)

nojobny
07-21-2009, 08:42 PM
I'm sorry but I find it very interesting that ESPN has NOTHING about this on their site. All they have are some buried links from other sites.

All the news media get all the information unfiltered and then they release it as it's deemed necessary especially with high profile figures. There are a lot of unwritten rules with the media. (e.g. if a reporter dies, the network he/she is most associated with is the one who breaks the story and then everyone else can report it.)

I feel that ESPN knows a lot more and they're waiting until things flush out.

I really don't think Ben is dumb enough to pull a Kobe.

BleedBlacknGold0
07-21-2009, 08:43 PM
This suit doesnt make sense because,

1) Even though she may be scarred and waited a year to report a rape (which I dont think has a statute of limitations) she should have done a criminal report. Right?

2) Arent civil suits for money? Oj was said to be innocent, then he was nailed in a Civil suit and lost everything.

You think if she was truly assaulted she would for for a criminal type of case and not care about money.

Sorry if this idea has been posted. I just scanned quickly

OneForTheToe
07-21-2009, 08:45 PM
I do think the credibility of this claim is questionable. Still, I have to agree with Preacher - some of the responses on this board are shameful. So the new test for consensual vs non-consensual sex is whether the alleged rapist could have got a more attractive woman without resorting to force? Not all rapists are guys who can't get a laid. Some of them are just ego maniacal jerks who think women should spread their legs them because of who they are. Or, maybe they have some other psychological problem? Nevertheless, you shouldn't judge consensual vs non-consensual on the relative attractiveness of the parties.

Now onto the case at hand. Yes, I tend to think this might be a money grab. The lack of an apparent criminal case is telling. Contrary to what Preacher said earlier, while a rape trial is certainly traumatic for a victim, there are actually more protections in place for the victim on the criminal side than the civil. Rape Shield Laws in every state limit access to the victim from the public as well as rules that limit the defense attorney from drudging up the victims sexual past.

Moreover, there is not an plaintiff's attorney in the world that would not want a criminal conviction in place before they proceed with the civil case. The prosecution does all the work for the civil attorney even if the criminal case does not end in a conviction. . Not to mention that is there is a conviction it might be able to be used in the civil case.

For these reasons I tend to doubt her claim very much ... but geez some of the responses. :banging:

TackleMeBen
07-21-2009, 08:46 PM
i just seen going across foxnews channel, she is seeking $500,000 in damages..

devilsdancefloor
07-21-2009, 08:55 PM
I have to agree with tony on this he went "who are you" this weekend and she got pissed! besides if she makes up a phantom soldier maybe she is gonna make up a phantom QB? I Also think DINO you need to take a deep breath man! It will be alright!:drink::drink::drink::tt03::tt03:

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 08:55 PM
:helmet: here is a little more detailed info about the story I have found finally obtained a full and complete and reliable copy of the complaint filed against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in Nevada.

The complaint contains very specific allegations, which either helps prove that the event actually occurred -- or which demonstrates that the plaintiff, Andrea McNulty, has a very active imagination.

McNulty, who says in the complaint that she has worked at Harrah's since March 2003, alleges that she was assigned to serve a concierge-style function on the Penthouse floor of the hotel during the 2008 American Century Celebrity Golf Championship.

McNulty alleges that, on July 10, she and Roethlisberger had a conversation about fly fishing, and that they talked about the fact that McNulty is an avid fly fisherman. (Though, on the surface, the exchange isn't relevant, the contention -- if true -- shows that there was at least a minor relationship between McNulty and Roethlisberger prior to the incident.)

As to the incident itself, it allegedly occurred on Friday, July 11. McNulty claims that, at approximately 10:00 p.m. local time, Roethlisberger returned to his room with a young woman, who left roughly 20 minutes later.

McNulty says that Roethlisberger walked the woman to the elevator, and that Roethlisberger then stopped to talk to McNulty and other staff, for roughly 20 minutes. (Obviously, it'll be critical to determine who these other staff members are, and what they have to say.)

As he was leaving, Roethlisberger allegedly told McNulty that the sound system on his television wasn't working. She offered to have someone from engineering fix it, but Roethlisberger said he would call her about it later.

Roethlisberger allegedly called her a few minutes later, and he said that the television was still broken. She offered to have someone go to the room and fix it. He allegedly asked her to come and "take a quick look" at it.

McNulty claims that she tried to call a couple of other colleagues to handle the situation, but that she couldn't reach anyone. She alleges that Roethlisberger called again and asked her when she was going to fix the television.

Citing a direction from management to ensure that Roethlisberger had an enjoyable trip, she decided to try to fix it herself.

McNulty claims that, when she arrived at the room, he was wearing a T-shirt and athletic shorts. She adds, for no apparent reason other than to show the clarity of her recollection, that the room was a mess.

Roethlisberger showed her the television that was malfunctioning, located in suite's bedroom. Using the remote, she determined that there was no problem with the television or the sound system.

She claims that, as she tried to leave the room, Roethlisberger blocked her path, and that he "grabbed [her] and started to kiss her."

She claims that she was "shocked and stunned that this previously friendly man, that appeared to be a gentleman in her previous contacts with him was suddenly preventing her from leaving, was assaulting and battering her."

McNulty admits that she didn't try to fight Roethlisberger, citing his size and strength. She claims that she "communicated her objection and lack of consent," and that he nevertheless began "fondling [her] through her dress and between her legs."

She claims that he pushed her onto the bed, and despite her alleged protests he "pulled her underpants off and proceeded to penetrate her."

McNulty claims that she told him, "You don't want to do this." She also claims that she said, "Please don't," and that she told him she was not on any type of birth control.

She claims that he said in response, "Don't worry, I'll pull out," which he ultimately did.

At that point, he allowed her to get off the bed. McNulty claims that she went to the bathroom, and "tried to pull herself together." When she emerged, she claims that Roethlisberger asked, "There are cameras on this room, aren't there?"

She responded by saying, "Yes, there are cameras everywhere."

McNulty alleges that he then seem worried, and that his tone became "stern."

"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television," he allegedly said. "You fixed my television. Now go!"

We'll be posting separately the allegations relating to the coworkers at Harrah's, most of which are based on conduct occurring after the alleged assault.

Again, these are only allegations in a civil complaint. There is, to our knowledge, no criminal complaint or investigation, and Roethlisberger through lawyer David Cornwell has strongly denied the contention.

Still, if the allegations set forth above are true, and if sufficient evidence can be compiled to prove that, then this thing could get very ugly for Roethlisberger I hope this goes away quickly

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 09:01 PM
The complaint contains very specific allegations....

Seems to me she's had a year to cook this up. Specificity in and of itself isn't damning.

McNulty claims that she tried to call a couple of other colleagues to handle the situation, but that she couldn't reach anyone. She alleges that Roethlisberger called again and asked her when she was going to fix the television.

Citing a direction from management to ensure that Roethlisberger had an enjoyable trip, she decided to try to fix it herself.

Oh, OK, so even though it's fairly apparent that she is in no way qualified to work on TVs, she would have been able to fix it with no problem and "make Roethlisberger's stay more enjoyable?" Absolute crock of shit.

HometownGal
07-21-2009, 09:19 PM
Phew!

http://jeffreyricker.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/bullshit.jpg

jasonhightower
07-21-2009, 09:20 PM
i just seen going across foxnews channel, she is seeking $500,000 in damages..

Yeah, it was something like $440,000 for medical expenses from Ben, etc. but the punitive damages are unspecified. That's where the big bucks come from...

Unless she was smart enough to tape the alleged conversations with Ben and Harrah's staff, then I don't see how a jury believes this nut. Unless of course the various defendents' stories don't jive...

jasonhightower
07-21-2009, 09:26 PM
The fact ESPN has virtually nothing, CNNSI barely mentions it, and Yahoo Sports barely mentions it makes me think that they don't want to overexpose this because when it comes to light its a con, they don't want to be blackballed by Big Ben or even worse the Steelers.... I'd be real careful too...

jasonhightower
07-21-2009, 09:30 PM
Geez... just heard this thing could drag out for up to two years.... worse case scenario. Also, civil cases are much different than criminal. You don't need to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, simply tipping the scales on Ben's involvement may be enough to cause problems. Remember OJ found not guilty in the criminal case, but guilty in the civil case...

AllD
07-21-2009, 09:45 PM
But O.J. offed that woman.

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 09:52 PM
But O.J. offed that woman.

Exactly. O.J. got off on the murder rap because he had a far better lawyer than the state of California. Cochran made Clark and Darden look like complete idiots.

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 09:56 PM
1 st pic Natile gulbis with Ben on and off relationship
2nd pic Missy peregrym Bens steady GF
3rd the accuser lol

AllD
07-21-2009, 10:03 PM
Well put indeed! Especially #2, I would have loaned myself for this act willingly :wave::laughing: I don't know if I could claim I was better looking than this Andrea woman but I would like to think I could.



I will put on a #7 jersey and we can role play. I don't make $10million, but I can scrape together a small signing bonus!:applaudit:

AllD
07-21-2009, 10:05 PM
1 st pic Natile gulbis with Ben on and off relationship
2nd pic Missy peregrym Bens steady GF
3rd the accuser lol

The 2nd girl looks like a model and the 3rd girl looks like a stalker.

Godfather
07-21-2009, 10:06 PM
Exactly. And I hope he sees it through to the end and stomps a mudhole in her ass for good measure.

I dunno. That would just make him look like the big bad rich and famous athlete running over a nobody.

I hope he's completely innocent and can prove it. But if a mudhole gets stomped in the accuser I want it to come from one of her coworkers. They're just little people who didn't ask to be caught up in all this. And simply defending themselves will cost them money they can't afford.

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 10:11 PM
Ya what if the gang up ? 500,000k could get all 8 of them out of the trailer park and into a nice apartment

Psyychoward86
07-21-2009, 10:12 PM
1 st pic Natile gulbis with Ben on and off relationship
2nd pic Missy peregrym Bens steady GF
3rd the accuser lol

I think if Big Ben's lawyer does so much as show those pictures to everyone, all the legal troubles are over.

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 10:15 PM
LOL that is why I posted them. So now everyone can sleep in peace and get ready to defend what is rightfully ours Superbowl 44

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 10:18 PM
Just sayin' ... rumors can be spread about anybody anytime! Kordell was no more guilty of the nasty and defammatory rumors spread about him than Ben is today. But it sure did cast a cloud over Kordell didn't it? It was even being discussed on Pittsburgh morning talk shows at the time. Sorry you missed my sarcastic slant on this one scsteeler.

Bingo! How does anyone know he had sex with her in the first place? All I've seen is her statement to that effect. I could say I banged Jessica Alba too, but that doesn't make it true.

Preacher
07-21-2009, 10:18 PM
LOL that is why I posted them. So now everyone can sleep in peace and get ready to defend what is rightfully ours Superbowl 44

So let me get this straight. If an ugly woman accuses a man of rape... she is lying?

Really?

JackHammer
07-21-2009, 10:19 PM
This is a board of OPINIONS, Jack, and people are just stating theirs. No one knows at this point in time the whys and becauses of what happened or didn't happen, but we as Steelers fans pretty much know the character of Ben Roethlisberger and believe (at this point) that the allegations simply aren't true.


Like I said, I have my doubts. I honestly don't think he did it. I was referring more to when it's a player from another team how we tend to convict them on the spot. EVERYBODY is supposed to innocent until proven guilty, not just the people we like or "know the character of".

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 10:36 PM
So let me get this straight. If an ugly woman accuses a man of rape... she is lying?

Really? not 100 % but 99.99999 % sure of it Preacher. so you have a .000001 chance of saying I told you so !
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steeler dude
07-21-2009, 10:39 PM
I will stick behind Our Steelers players and Fans until proven guilty:tt::tt::tt02:

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 10:45 PM
So let me get this straight. If an ugly woman accuses a man of rape... she is lying?

Really?

Yeah she lying when she has no proof, did not go the police, did not file a CRIMINAL complaint, waited a year to a file CIVIL suit, has a history of mental illness, sues everyone in sight who has money, and thinks there is an eight person conspiracy out to get her. I'd say she is lying. That she looks like a dog's breakfast is irrelevant.

Steely McSmash
07-21-2009, 10:48 PM
Bingo! How does anyone know he had sex with her in the first place? All I've seen is her statement to that effect. I could say I banged Jessica Alba too, but that doesn't make it true.

Maybe you should file civil suit versus Jessica Alba!:rofl:

steel striker
07-21-2009, 10:51 PM
This really sounds like total BS and,plus there was not any police report. I don't believe this at all and, I'm sure Ben's name will be cleared. What a way to put a freaking damper on the up coming pre season and everything else. Man this really ticks me off someone just after Ben's money like this.

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Yeah she lying when she has no proof, did not go the police, did not file a CRIMINAL complaint, waited a year to a file CIVIL suit, has a history of mental illness, sues everyone in sight who has money, and thinks there is an eight person conspiracy out to get her. I'd say she is lying. That she looks like a dog's breakfast is irrelevant.

:applaudit: :applaudit: :applaudit:

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 10:59 PM
:applaudit::tt::helmet::tt02: here you go ea McNulty, the casino employee, that has accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault (rape), might in fact be nuttier than a crap-house rat.

TMZ is reporting that McNulty has been seeing a psychiatrist over a fictional soldier that she met online and was supposedly engaged to, before she quit receiving emails and communication from a woman who was pretending to be a soldier.

Sources connected with the case tell us a former co-worker of McNulty’s at Harrah’s came forward with this incredible story — that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man. The man’s wife, we’re told, created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with McNulty to gain information. We’re told the former co-worker has said McNulty fell in love with the fictitious soldier and began telling people she was engaged to him. When the wife stopped the correspondence, McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

The alleged incident between Roethlisberger and McNulty took place in July 2008. Roethlisberger has acknowledged he had sex with McNulty, but claims it was consensual.

This news does nothing to help McNulty’s credibility, especially in connection with her sexual assault claim against Roethlisberger. This coupled with the fact there have not been any criminal charges filed are good news for Roethlisberger. In my opinion, likely nothing will come out of the (bogus) claim by McNulty.

If she was sexually assaulted then hopefully she will get her day in court and be able to prove the charge. If not, and if in fact she made in the story, then she should be prosecuted




and she is also fugly :toofunny:

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 11:01 PM
Like I said, I have my doubts. I honestly don't think he did it. I was referring more to when it's a player from another team how we tend to convict them on the spot. EVERYBODY is supposed to innocent until proven guilty, not just the people we like or "know the character of".

Depends on the player. Personally, I'd be just as surprised if, say, Ocho Cinco or T.O. were accused of something like this (and I can't stand either one of them). Ocho Cinco catches heat here not for being a criminal or a thug, but for being a genuine, grade-A, attention-whoring, locker room-destroying assclown, and the same goes for T.O. OTOH, as far as the likes of Chris Henry and Pacman Jones are concerned, how much benefit of the doubt do you give someone who has a rap sheet a mile long already (which Ben doesn't have)? It may not be fair, but the court of public opinion is what it is.

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 11:20 PM
McNulty claims that, at approximately 10:00 p.m. local time, Roethlisberger returned to his room with a young woman, who left roughly 20 minutes later.

i blame arians.

ben pulled a 3 and out with the first girl and was sacked by the second one.

reports are he almost scored with a third girl but he held onto her breasts too long.

plus all of this coulda been prevented if his linemen woulda c0ck blocked for him, or if fast willie knew which hole to hit.

SteelLloyd95
07-21-2009, 11:29 PM
She isn't THAT bad looking.

Anyways, like others have said, it could just be like the Bettis thing and have no basis and this will be over before the season starts.

Innocent until proven guilty. Plus its a civil case, meaning that she does not have any REAL evidence.

SteelRNation
07-21-2009, 11:31 PM
Well I was feeling okay after a few beers....then I saw a picture of the girl accusing Big Ben. I am now sober. :banging:

MasterOfPuppets
07-21-2009, 11:31 PM
Lawyer: Steelers QB did not commit sexual assault


RENO, Nev. (AP) - A woman has filed a lawsuit accusing Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of raping her last summer in his penthouse hotel room at a casino in Lake Tahoe during a celebrity golf tournament.

Roethlisberger's lawyer adamantly denied the allegations Tuesday, and was quick to point out that the woman never went to the authorities.


"Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone. The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct," David Cornwell said in a statement. "If an investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated."

Cornwell did not immediately reply to a phone message and e-mail seeking more comment.

The suit seeks at least $390,000 in damages from the quarterback and also alleges hotel officials for Harrah's Lake Tahoe went to great lengths to cover up the incident. The woman's lawsuit says she didn't file a criminal complaint because she feared Harrah's would side with Roethlisberger and she would be fired.

The Steelers and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said they were looking into the allegations against Roethlisberger, one of the biggest names in sports. He has won two Super Bowls in his five-year career, and is about to report to training camp as the Steelers look to repeat as champions.

The woman was working as an executive casino host last July when she said Roethlisberger struck up a friendly conversation at her desk during the golf tournament.

The next night, she said he telephoned her to tell her his television sound system wasn't working and asked her to look at it. She said she was unable to find a technician so she handled it herself because she had been told it was important to please the celebrities.

In Roethlisberger's room she said she determined the TV was functioning properly but as she turned to leave, the 6-foot-5, 240-pound quarterback blocked her exit, the suit claims.

The lawsuit said he grabbed her and started to kiss her. It said she was "shocked and stunned that this previously friendly man, that appeared to be a gentleman in her previous contacts with him was suddenly preventing her from leaving, was assaulting her and battering her."

She said she feared that because he was a football player he could or would physically harm her if she tried to fight him off, but that she objected and protested several times.

"But instead of stopping, Roethlisberger began fondling plaintiff through her dress and between her legs," the suit said. He then "held her against her will and physically moved plaintiff and pushed her onto his bed" where he raped her, the suit says.

She told him "You don't want to do this," and begged him "I am not on any type of birth control."

Afterward, he asked if there was a security camera in the hallway. She said he then instructed her to claim she had repaired his television if anyone asked why she was in his room.

The lawsuit says the woman required hospitalization for treatment for depression after the alleged attack.

Efforts to reach the woman Tuesday were unsuccessful.

The woman's lawyer, Calvin R. Dunlap, of Reno, declined to answer questions about the lack of a criminal complaint and why the civil action was brought a year after the incident allegedly took place.

"Neither I nor our client will be making any comment," Dunlap said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "We believe the matter should be resolved in court rather than in the media."

Teresa Duffy, a spokeswoman for the sheriff's office in Douglas County, which includes part of Lake Tahoe, said no complaints were filed about such an incident either with sheriff's deputies or the district attorney's office.

The lawsuit also names eight Harrah's employees as defendants and alleges the cover-up involved the chief of security at Harrah's Lake Tahoe and was carried out with the knowledge of John Koster, president of Harrah's northern Nevada operations.

John Packer, spokesman for the hotel-casino, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment.

Harrah's Entertainment, the hotel-casino's parent company, declined comment.

"We don't comment on pending legal matters," Jacqueline Peterson said from company headquarters in Las Vegas.

The suit says Harrah's security chief Guy Hyder gained the trust of the woman's parents while she was hospitalized for depression, and persuaded them to give him a key to her home. She said Hyder and others then entered her home and allegedly erased information from her computer and confiscated it.

The lawsuit claims that when the woman first reported the attack to Hyder he dismissed her distress and crying and said she was "overreacting."

The woman said Hyder told her that "most girls would feel lucky to get to have sex with someone like Ben Roethlisberger" and that "Koster would love you even more if he knew about this" because Koster was good friends with Roethlisberger and admired him greatly.

The suit also accuses the defendants of defaming her, including suggesting she was sexually promiscuous.

It said they also made false statements about her physical and mental health, including reportedly telling others she was hospitalized for schizophrenia when they knew her "problems arose out of having been sexually assaulted."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday he was looking into the various allegations.

"I don't know enough of the details, but it's a civil lawsuit, it's something that we obviously will look into," he said when asked about it in New York during an unrelated news conference. "I've been in touch with the Steelers about it."

Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett said the team is aware of the lawsuit, and "we are gathering information."

The Steelers clinched a 27-23 Super Bowl win over the Arizona Cardinals this year when Roethlisberger connected with Santonio Holmes for the game-winning touchdown in the game's closing seconds.

Last week Roethlisberger played in the 20th annual American Century Celebrity Golf Tournament at Lake Tahoe, finishing tied for 30th in the field of 89 golfers. It was not immediately known if he stayed at Harrah's.

In 2006, Roethlisberger made his first public appearance at the tournament after having nearly died in a motorcycle accident the month before.

He had seven hours of facial reconstruction surgery after ramming into a car that turned in front of him on a Pittsburgh street. He broke his jaw and nose and was thrown over the car onto the pavement. He was cited for riding without a license and not wearing a helmet.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9833272/Lawyer:-Steelers-QB-did-not-commit-sexual-assault

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 11:38 PM
What gets me about this McNutty female is her theory that eight people were willing to enter into a arrangement to protect Ben because he is a "celebrity".

This is sheer lunacy.

I'll grant you that Ben is a minor celebrity but its not like he has the status of someone like Michale Jackson. Outside of Pittsburgh or outside of an NFL game, 50,000 people are not going to show up to see him.

From the resorts point of view Ben is not that big of a deal since he is just one of many pro athletes that show up for a golf tournament once a year.

Covering up a felony is a crime and why would these people risk conspiracy charges for Big Ben? Why would they risk their freedom, their careers, and their families future? Why would the corporation risk a multimillion judgment for the sake of one athlete who comes to their golf tournament?

Doesn't seem to add up does it?

This McNutty skank ho is a lying loon who only wants money. She is hoping for an out of court settlement.

steeler dude
07-21-2009, 11:55 PM
agree

Preacher
07-21-2009, 11:57 PM
Yeah she lying when she has no proof, did not go the police, did not file a CRIMINAL complaint, waited a year to a file CIVIL suit, has a history of mental illness, sues everyone in sight who has money, and thinks there is an eight person conspiracy out to get her. I'd say she is lying. That she looks like a dog's breakfast is irrelevant.

My issue isn't that she whether she is or is not lying. As I said, I seriously have my doubts about the veracity of the claims.

My issue IS the fact that she is being demonized on this board.... called horrid names, accused of being a wh0re and a profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilter, and Evidence number 1? She isn't pretty enough to be raped.

That doesn't sicken you?

tony hipchest
07-22-2009, 12:05 AM
ray lewis has issued a statement and compared bens plight to that of ghandi.

steeler dude
07-22-2009, 12:08 AM
(Pretty) is an Opinion just like yours mine or the next person who posts it's a personal opinion . Sticks and stones imo people have called Steelers fans worse on this forum over a game!!!! So I guess I have been " Demonized " myself .Im still taking up for a Steelers Player or Fan until proven guilty IMO we have been attacked until proven otherwise

Preacher
07-22-2009, 12:17 AM
(Pretty) is an Opinion just like yours mine or the next person who posts it's a personal opinion . Sticks and stones imo people have called Steelers fans worse on this forum over a game!!!! So I guess I have been " Demonized " myself .Im still taking up for a Steelers Player or Fan until proven guilty IMO we have been attacked until proven otherwise

So your stand is that a football player that plays on a team you support is more worthy of your support that an alleged rape victim?

Sorry. I think you priorities are wrong.

I keep saying, the issue for me isn't people wondering whether or not she is guilty. its the way they are speaking about her.