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mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 06:14 PM
Roethlisberger's Thursday press conference canceled
Tuesday, July 21, 2009
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09202/985357-100.stm

A press conference scheduled for Thursday at the Steelers UPMC training facility on the South Side to promote quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's reality television show competition with Shaquille O'Neal has been canceled.

The cancellation comes one day after news surfaced of a civil lawsuit that was filed July 17 in Nevada by a woman claiming Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her in 2008.

A spokesman for ABC said the taping of the television show "Shaq Vs." will still take place Friday at Ambridge's Moe Rubenstein Stadium and is to be shown on ABC-TV Aug. 18. Gates will open at 7 p.m. with taping to begin around 8:30 p.m., said Ambridge athletic director Randy Cosgrove, later than the schedule announced earlier this week. Attendance will be limited to about 7,500 people.

In the meantime, an NFL spokesman said today that the league did not have enough information on the civil lawsuit against Roethlisberger to comment, nor determine how it might apply to the Personal Conduct Policy under commissioner Roger Goodell.

Said Greg Aiello, the NFL senior vice president of public relations in an email to the Post-Gazette: "The facts are not clear; it's a civil matter, and it's premature to comment on how the Personal Conduct Policy applies, if at all."

The NFL's Personal Conduct Policy gives the commissioner wide leeway to discipline a player he judges to have violated the league's standard of conduct. An infraction does not have to result in a crime nor, apparently, does it have to be judged by the courts to be illegal.

Here are excerpts from the code that could apply in Roethlisberger's case:

"While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful. (Unless you are a cheating coach named Belichick. - mesa)

"Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in a conviction of a crime." (Unless you play for the Patriots - mesa)

Among the various circumstances the Conduct Policy lists where discipline can be imposed, most of them illegal, are these two that could possibly apply to Roethlisberger:

"Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person; and"

"Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players."

Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett said neither Steelers President Art Rooney II nor coach Mike Tomlin would comment on the lawsuit against Roethlisberger.

"At this point, we've heard his side of the story," Lockett said today. "We're not expecting to make a statement. All I would say is we're aware of it, it's in litigation and we can't comment on it. That's where we're leaving it at this point."

The Steelers report to training camp at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe July 31.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09202/985357-100.stm#ixzz0LwEympJT

stillers4me
07-21-2009, 06:19 PM
So Ben will get suspended for 3 games and The Pats* get another draft pick.

Does anyone still have Bryon's number.............?

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 06:24 PM
Uh-oh. Be prepared for Ben to miss a significant number of games if Kommissar Shithead gets involved.

fansince'76
07-21-2009, 06:26 PM
So Ben will get suspended for 3 games and The Pats* get another draft pick.

Yeah, pretty much, except he'll probably get more like 8 games and the Pats* will get extra draft pickS, plural. :coffee:

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 06:32 PM
I think this is one of those things where the NFL would have to wait until the court proceeds are through before they make a decision on punishment, if any.

Now if criminal charges come about, that's a different story. But I am going to assume they are not, seeing how this woman is filing a civil suit and never made a complaint to the police about this.

As far as we know, she has no proof that anything happened. it was supposedly a year ago, which means a rape kit cannot be done. All she has is her word against Ben Roethlisberger's.

She's also a loon, which hurts her case. She imagined a relationship with someone in the military, she could have easily imagined being raped by a rich and famous quarterback.

tony hipchest
07-21-2009, 06:38 PM
unfortunately the commish frequently imagines spooning with robert kraft late at night.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-21-2009, 06:40 PM
unfortunately the commish frequently imagines spooning with robert kraft late at night.

Thanks Tony, now I can't get that image out of my head! :banging: :mad:

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 06:46 PM
unfortunately the commish frequently imagines spooning with robert kraft late at night.

Are you sure it's just imagination?

srk173
07-21-2009, 07:52 PM
He would get suspended if it were criminal charges, but with it just being a civil suit, the commish cannot do a thing until it is final.

HometownGal
07-21-2009, 08:24 PM
Snaggletooth is probably a Cheats* fan (though she supposedly hails from Canada) who believes in her distorted and demented mind that getting Ben out of the way via suspension paves the way for the Pats* in the AFC.

I know, far fetched - but I leave nothing to the imagination in this case. :willy:

Preacher
07-21-2009, 08:48 PM
It'll wait until everything is proven (or unproven).

mesaSteeler
07-21-2009, 09:19 PM
Snaggletooth is probably a Cheats* fan (though she supposedly hails from Canada) who believes in her distorted and demented mind that getting Ben out of the way via suspension paves the way for the Pats* in the AFC.

I know, far fetched - but I leave nothing to the imagination in this case. :willy:

Far fetched? Wouldn't surprise me if Belicheat was behind all of this.

ricksteelers55
07-21-2009, 10:00 PM
U guys are missing the bright side, the next Slash was drafted.

What ?? Are you kidding man ? Our franchise QB who has already 2 SB rings could be suspended and you're happy because ''Dennis Dixon'' could see playing time ? Id rather see Dixon playing because we're destroying the other team than the 1st scenario

Preacher
07-21-2009, 11:23 PM
What ?? Are you kidding man ? Our franchise QB who has already 2 SB rings could be suspended and you're happy because ''Dennis Dixon'' could see playing time ? Id rather see Dixon playing because we're destroying the other team than the 1st scenario

May I suggest you look up "sarcasm"

either that or we really need a sarcasm smiley.

BlockMonsta
07-22-2009, 02:53 AM
Should Big Ben get suspended for any ammount (which I hope will not happen, just going to wait and see). I do think Dixion(assumeing he wins #2) can and will win football games for us. Not to mention, with the running game(I hope) we have this year he will only need to manage.

Galax Steeler
07-22-2009, 03:58 AM
I don't think Ben will miss any games because this woman is a Looney.:screwy:

BlockMonsta
07-22-2009, 05:02 AM
Yeah, I really have no read much into it. And juding by the picture of her that was posted in another thread..I just dont know about that. He could not have found her that attractive..who knows

Steel-Bryan
07-22-2009, 11:20 AM
Well, lets just hope that everything turns out ok, nice Sig. Galax Steeler. :wave:

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 11:39 AM
The crap stirring is just beginning...

Does NFL Personal Conduct Policy Apply To Ben Roethlisberger Civil Suit?

Also, something to consider is that it is possible that criminal charges could still be filed against Roethlisberger if a district attorney's office believes there is probable cause that a crime may have occurred.

Under Nevada law, a victim of sexual assault has up to four years to file a written report. After that is done, there is no limitation on when a district attorney can file an action.

Having the concern of possible criminal charges and the fear of potential league action based on such charges makes this lawsuit particularly difficult one for Roethlisberger to fight, whether he did what he is accused of or not. Even if the civil suit is settled confidentially, a district attorney could still file charges against Roethlisberger, but it is much more difficult without the assistance of the complaining witness

Whatever the league chooses to do, fans will be watching this closely. The league has not suspended players for pending civil cases that allege criminal activities, but the broad wording of their policy allows for that. If a criminal case evolves from this situation, it makes the league's decision much more difficult.


http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/07/21/does-nfl-personal-conduct-policy-apply-to-ben-roethlisberger-civ/

steelreserve
07-22-2009, 11:46 AM
I don't think Ben will miss any games because this woman is a Looney.:screwy:

I'm just waiting for the story to break that Kraft put her up to it and paid her legal fees.

BlastFurnace
07-22-2009, 11:56 AM
Tomlin already deserves all our confidence based upon what he has accomplished.

Since, from what I read that this is going to take months to get through all the legal stuff...If he can keep the team focused and winning through this circus of events...that would be pretty amazing.

Fire Haley
07-22-2009, 02:01 PM
Deputy: No plans to investigate Roethlisberger

RENO, Nev. (AP)—Law enforcement officials in Nevada have no intention of opening a criminal investigation into allegations Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger(notes) raped a woman at a Lake Tahoe hotel-casino a year ago, the sheriff’s department said Wednesday.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Deputy Teresa Duffy said the accuser would have to file a criminal complaint to trigger an investigation into the incident the woman says occurred during a celebrity golf tournament last July while she was working as an executive casino host at Harrah’s Lake Tahoe.

“The victim is the only one who can do that,” Duffy told The Associated Press. “Unless there was a third party that actually witnessed the incident, which according to the civil case, was not the case here,” she said.

The woman, a native of Canada who had worked at Harrah’s since 2003, never went to the authorities with her story, and it’s unclear why she decided to file the lawsuit seeking hundreds of thousands of dollars a full year later.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-roethlisberger-lawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns

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She's a Canuck? Well that explains everything.

OneForTheToe
07-22-2009, 02:27 PM
Deputy: No plans to investigate Roethlisberger

RENO, Nev. (AP)—Law enforcement officials in Nevada have no intention of opening a criminal investigation into allegations Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger(notes) raped a woman at a Lake Tahoe hotel-casino a year ago, the sheriff’s department said Wednesday.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Deputy Teresa Duffy said the accuser would have to file a criminal complaint to trigger an investigation into the incident the woman says occurred during a celebrity golf tournament last July while she was working as an executive casino host at Harrah’s Lake Tahoe. ........


Thanks Killer. So no criminal investigation at all? I''m sure her side will claim it is because Harrahs tried to hush her up. The problem with that theory is that nothing is stopping her now from doing so , except for possibly the fact if she files for criminal charges and it shown she made up the story she could face her own charges.


Her attorney, of course, would know this.