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Vis
07-28-2009, 11:32 AM
http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2755_The_Great_8.html

2. Ben Roethlisberger
Type of Quarterback: Clutch Playmaker

Career: 1,189 of 1,905, 62.4%, 14,974 yards, 7.9 YPA, 101 TD, 69 INT, 89.4 passer rating
Best year: (2005) 168 of 268, 62.7%, 2,385 yards, 8.9 YPA, 17 TD, 9 INT, 98.6 passer rating
Last year: 281 of 469, 59.5%, 3,301 yards, 7.0 YPA, 17 TD, 15 INT, 80.1 passer rating

The Cold, Hard Football Fact: Big Ben's career average of 7.86 YPA is the third best in modern NFL history (since 1960).

The straight dope: The knock on Big Ben has always been that he’s been lucky to play with a great defensive club with a great commitment to the run on offense. However, teams don’t consistently win games, and don’t consistently win Super Bowls, without clutch play at quarterback -- no matter how good they are defensively or no matter how often they run the football. And, with the possible exception of No. 1 on our list, no quarterback in football today consistently produces clutch plays in key moments more often than Roethlisberger.

The 2008 season was textbook Big Ben: hamstrung by one of the worst offensive lines in the league (28th on our Offensive Hog Index), Roethlisberger had a subpar statistical season. But with everything on the line – and in the last thing we all saw at the end of the 2008 football season – Roethlisberger led his Steelers on one of the great drives in Super Bowl history, ending it with a gorgeous, clutch pass to Santonio Holmes for the game-winning touchdown. (We ranked that drive the third best in Super Bowl history earlier this year.)

However, if you’re looking for a telling stat that underscores Big Ben’s success – the underlying stats are always there if you trust in the Cold, Hard Football Facts – look no further than Big Ben’s 7.86 YPA, the sixth best mark in the history of the NFL. In modern times, only Warner (8.04 YPA) and Steve Young (7.98 YPA) were more effective at getting the ball down field.

Other quarterbacks put up bigger, better numbers. But the bottom line is that no fandom outside of New England can rest more comfortably knowing that they have a quarterback who can make plays and pull out victories in the most critical games and moments of the season.

The outlook for 2009: Big Ben & Co. find themselves playing for “team of the decade” status. With another title this year, they’ll have won three Super Bowls in the second half of the decade, after the Patriots won three in the first half of the decade. Clutch quarterbacks revel in these moments.

Vis
07-28-2009, 11:36 AM
8. Donovan McNabb
Type of Quarterback: The Great Protector

7. Drew Brees
Type of Quarterback: Modern Gunslinger

6. Chad Pennington
Type of Quarterback: Pigskin Precisionist

5. Philip Rivers
Type of Quarterback: Steam Shovel of Efficiency/Stat Monster hybrid

4. Peyton Manning
Type of Quarterback: Prolific Stat Monster

3. Kurt Warner
Type of Quarterback: Prolific Stat Monster/Modern Gunslinger hybrid

2. Ben Roethlisberger
Type of Quarterback: Clutch Playmaker

1. Tom Brady
Type of Quarterback: Steam Shovel of Efficiency


At first look I agree with this list right down the line.

On second look, I'd move Brees up 2 spots

steelreserve
07-28-2009, 11:53 AM
Pretty good list if you ask me. Only one I have a big disagreement with is Pennington. He's decent, but I don't think he's the No. 6 quarterback in the league. Plus he's always getting injured, which knocks him down a few rungs in my eyes. I'd say there are about a half-dozen guys he'd be competing with for the last spot on this list, and McNabb and Brees are clearly better.

revefsreleets
07-28-2009, 12:05 PM
No on #1. Brady is a system QB only, and Cassel proved that even a mediocre guy with limited skills can excel in NE. Manning is #1, and Ben is #2

The Lakelander
07-28-2009, 12:06 PM
BULL SIHT!!!

Brady is the most over-rated QB in NFL history!

He is Mr. Dink-Dank-Dunk.

Matt Cassel proved last year that any 6th rounder with absolutely no starting experience could succeed in that system!

Stop the damn Brady man-love already! http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-086.gif http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-076.gif http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-082.gif

T Bradshaw
07-28-2009, 12:24 PM
1. Tom Brady
Type of Quarterback: Steam Shovel of Efficiency



Here we go again, only dumbass would write an article like this, place Brady 1st and mention nothing about the fact that the bastard was cheating

If Tommy Brady does not cheat he will not even be on that list

fansince'76
07-28-2009, 12:27 PM
CHFF is a slobbering Pats* homer site, which explains why Golden Boy is #1, and Manning is only #4.

tony hipchest
07-28-2009, 06:57 PM
aside from the constant brady/patriot ball washing, i gotta give it to CHFF. they have consistently been in bens corner for about 2-3 years now citing the reasons above as why he's amongst the elite.

its not like they just jumped on his band wagon this season.

thats not to say its too far fetched believing they write those articles just to piss off manning and colts fans.

as for pennington and warner, i sure wish we coulda picked up qb's of that calibur off the dung heap during the '90's.

unfortunately, just about every qb drafted between drew bledsoe and peyton manning completely sucked (shuler, dilfer, and mirer quickly come to mind).

Psyychoward86
07-28-2009, 11:16 PM
Not a bad list. The truth is told in most of that article. Dont worry guys, the Brady drooling will be over in the future.

Galax Steeler
07-29-2009, 03:53 AM
Pretty good list if you ask me. Only one I have a big disagreement with is Pennington. He's decent, but I don't think he's the No. 6 quarterback in the league. Plus he's always getting injured, which knocks him down a few rungs in my eyes. I'd say there are about a half-dozen guys he'd be competing with for the last spot on this list, and McNabb and Brees are clearly better.

I have to agree with you steelreserve, Brees should definetly be ahead of Pennington he is a much better quarterback.

HughC
07-29-2009, 12:35 PM
I wouldn't put Pennington among the others in that group; in my opinion I would rank them Manning, Brady, Ben, Brees, Warner, McNabb and Rivers. Pennington would be in the next group with Romo, Rodgers, Eli, Cutler, Ryan, etc.

Even though we all hate the Pats I can't simply dismiss Brady as a dink and dunk QB; his numbers in 2007 (50 TD, 8 INT, 4800 yards) showed he can do more than just connect on short slants. As far as the Cassel comparison, don't forget Brady only had one year with Moss and Welker; as I recall the previous years his starting wide receivers were street free agents that nobody else wanted like Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney and Andre Davis. And if it is nothing more than the system that creates those numbers, then I want that same offensive system installed here in the next offseason to go along with the defense that is already in place.

Peyton Manning being ranked 4th is what really jumps out at me though. My guess is these guys ranked him low on purpose, with the idea of creating controversy to spark more hits to their website in order to generate more ad revenue. Unfortunate that this seems to be the agenda that so many operate by currently.

Steel Head
07-29-2009, 12:54 PM
really good list (except for noodle-arm Pennington being so high)

glad to see Philip Rivers up where he belongs

jcdavey08
07-31-2009, 01:58 AM
yeah good to see rivers finally getting some props

the guy basically went smack-free 2008, and had his best numbers to date

leading all qbs in stats

if his defense doesn't get right , all the stats in the world won't matter though