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mesaSteeler
08-17-2009, 07:52 AM
Steelers backfield crowded
By F. Dale Lolley, Staff writer
http://www.observer-reporter.com/OR/Story/08-17-Steelers-backfield
dlolley@observer-reporter.com

LATROBE - Maybe the rich do tend to get richer.

That certainly seems to be the case with the Steelers at the running back position.

Already blessed with Willie Parker, a two-time Pro Bowl player, Mewelde Moore, who has five career 100-yard games, and former first-round draft pick Rashard Mendenhall, the Steelers have added a pair of talented rookies to the mix in Frank Summers and Isaac Redman.

Summers, a fifth-round draft pick, and Redman, an undrafted free agent rookie, were two of the stars of the Steelers' 20-10 preseason victory over Arizona Thursday at Heinz Field.

Summers, seeing his first live action at fullback after working primarily as a runner at UNLV, looked powerful as a lead blocker and also led the team with two special teams tackles.

Redman, meanwhile, led the Steelers with 32 yards rushing and scored both of the team's touchdowns, pounding his way into the end zone from three and five yards out.

He followed that up Sunday at Saint Vincent College by scoring five times on seven goal-line carries during training camp drills. Redman scored three times against the Steelers' first-team defense and twice against the second-team unit as head coach Mike Tomlin tested Redman's endurance and mettle by giving him all seven goal-line attempts.


"You know, he still has a ways to go," said Tomlin, trying to temper the enthusiasm surrounding the rookie. "That's the process. No question he represented himself well today."

Both Summers and Redman are pushing hard for roster spots on a team that may have only one or two spots available.

The Steelers usually keep five backs on their roster, and in addition to Parker, Moore and Mendenhall - who are assured spots barring injury - the team also has fullback/special teams ace Carey Davis, tight end/fullback combo Sean McHugh and Justin Vincent, who has spent the past two seasons on the practice squad, returning.

"I'm trying to make the most of my opportunity," said Redman, a 6-0, 230-pound bruiser out of Bowie State. "I scored a touchdown on my first carry (against the Cardinals). It's like a dream come true.

"But I can't pat myself on the back. I've still got a lot of work to do. I still need to work hard to improve and study my plays and work just as hard on special teams."

The Steelers only recently moved the 5-10, 240-pound Summers to fullback at training camp, and the rookie, who is nicknamed "The Tank," showed he's quite capable of carrying the ball or blocking.

"I think he is showing the aptitude of a lead blocker, a guy who is capable of generating power on contact," said Tomlin. "He has a good demeanor for it; I think he is doing a nice job. He is open to it, so we are just trying to find more things that young men are capable of doing.

"This guy likes the combat. So we will continue to work with him in regards to the fullback position."

Odds and end zones

Rookie guard Kraig Urbik, a third-round draft pick, missed practice Sunday with a scratched cornea. ... Safety Troy Polamalu (calf) and defensive end Travis Kirschke (ankle) left practice early Sunday. Neither injury is considered serious.

revefsreleets
08-17-2009, 09:35 AM
According to what I read on THIS message board, the depth chart is:

Melwelde Moore
Isaac Redmon
Tank Summers
Justin Vincent
Carey Davis
Willie Parker
Rashard Mendenhall (NFL Bust)

And that, my friends, is why I ALWAYS defer to the wisdom of the Steelers coaches and FO.

Rotorhead
08-17-2009, 10:37 AM
No no no Rev, we are trading Mendy and Parker for Kuhn and then it will be Kuhn, Redmon and Tank for the 1-2-3 spots!

OneForTheToe
08-17-2009, 12:47 PM
I'm not sure you need to throw McHugh into the debate so much. I believe he has a roster spot already sown up. And the fact that McHugh can play FB might ease the Steelers' concern about going with a couple of rookie backs. Last year the Steelers kept Davis at full back, four running backs and McHugh as a FB/TE hybrid. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't keep the same numbers this season. Although, if it wasn't for Redmon's emergence, they could have gotten away with just three backs and Summers as a FB/RB combo and thus saved a roster spot for another position.

As other have said, it is early too declare Redmon anything but a preseason HOF'er, but I like what I hear about him scoring on our first team D. You know are D guys don't want anybody to score on them, especially a rookie.

steelreserve
08-17-2009, 12:48 PM
And that, my friends, is why I ALWAYS defer to the wisdom of the Steelers coaches and FO.

That's right. Might as well close this thread.

Might as well close down the whole message board, for that matter.

I mean, since we've obviously got no business having opinions that aren't in lock-step with the coaching staff, we've really got nothing to talk about.

revefsreleets
08-17-2009, 12:56 PM
That's right. Might as well close this thread.

Might as well close down the whole message board, for that matter.

I mean, since we've obviously got no business having opinions that aren't in lock-step with the coaching staff, we've really got nothing to talk about.

As always, I will call attention to the MONUMENTAL difference between opinion and INFORMED opinion. We have WAY too many people here making ridiculous assertions based on nothing other than ignorance...all opinions are NOT the same. I'm sorry, but that's just the honest truth.

Example A: My depth chart above is a joke, but there are a couple people here who don't think it's too far from the truth.

Dino 6 Rings
08-17-2009, 01:18 PM
I think McHugh stays as a TE, not so much FB. Also think that Summers has an opportunity to knock Davis off the Roster at FB

With that, I see Parker, Moore, Mendy, and at this point, Redman as the 4th RB, but we'll see.

I like that they are giving Summers the opportunity to get playing time at FB. I like that alot.

Now...will they PLEASE put a Back Up QB at the HOLDER Position so we can at least give off the hint of running a successful fack FG. Dixon should be the holder at this point.

wootawnee
08-17-2009, 02:31 PM
As always, I will call attention to the MONUMENTAL difference between opinion and INFORMED opinion. We have WAY too many people here making ridiculous assertions based on nothing other than ignorance...all opinions are NOT the same. I'm sorry, but that's just the honest truth.

Example A: My depth chart above is a joke, but there are a couple people here who don't think it's too far from the truth.

Yea you should have gotten your opinion a little more informed......Maybe you would have not voted for McCain.......

steelreserve
08-17-2009, 02:32 PM
As always, I will call attention to the MONUMENTAL difference between opinion and INFORMED opinion. We have WAY too many people here making ridiculous assertions based on nothing other than ignorance...all opinions are NOT the same. I'm sorry, but that's just the honest truth.

Example A: My depth chart above is a joke, but there are a couple people here who don't think it's too far from the truth.

Well, OK, I get you. We do get a good number of people who just show up and start rambling, but I guess that's the Internet for you.

The Lakelander
08-17-2009, 02:55 PM
There's a few whiny little biatchio's on here that take what people say and manipulate it into entirely something else! And I'm guessing, growing up in your households with you boys, there was no winning an argument about which vegetable was better at the dinner table.

I can hear it now ....

Little Sister: Broccoli is the best vegetable because it is more healthy for you

Whiny Little Biatchio Brother: Bwah hah hah! She said broccoli is better than corn! Remember when Big Sister said lima beans was the best vegetable. Look at how sad lima beans are now! They're pathetic!

Little Sister: It's broccoli I'm telling you!

Whiny Little Biatchio Brother: That's the vegetable John Kuhn ate when he was a loser! Broccoli sucks until I say it doesn't suck! When I say it don't suck no more, then broccoli is worthy!

:doh:


Here's what looks to be the RB roster when pre-season finally breaks, assuming nobody suffers a major injury!

Starter - Willie Parker
3rd Down Ace - Mewelde Moore
Full Back - Tank Summers
H-Back - Sean McHugh

1st Bench Substitution - Rashard Mendenhall
2nd Bench Sub/Goal Line Specialist - Isaac Redman


This is a flexible lineup of RB's that give the Steelers every single option imaginable for the situations they will be facing this year!

How much work Mendenhall and Redman get will depend entirely on the situations the team will be facing week by week.

But I'd be damn happy with this group and I think it's a certain upgrade over last year's unit!

:tt02:

mmalone
08-17-2009, 03:08 PM
Here's what looks to be the RB roster when pre-season finally breaks, assuming nobody suffers a major injury!

Starter - Willie Parker
3rd Down Ace - Mewelde Moore
Full Back - Tank Summers
H-Back - Sean McHugh

1st Bench Substitution - Rashard Mendenhall
2nd Bench Sub/Goal Line Specialist - Isaac Redman


This is a flexible lineup of RB's that give the Steelers every single option imaginable for the situations they will be facing this year!

How much work Mendenhall and Redman get will depend entirely on the situations the team will be facing week by week.

But I'd be damn happy with this group and I think it's a certain upgrade over last year's unit!

:tt02:

We would lose all this from last year though..... should we make this change, take the big leap... :rofl:


With Summers we lose:::

Davis :: 2008 62 yards total 0TD 2 Fumbles.


With Redman we lose::

Russell:: 2008 77 yards rushing -2 passing 3TD

Steelers Nation can survive this change.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-17-2009, 06:01 PM
I'm not buying into the 1 game preseason folk hero just yet. (I was crushed by John Kuhn :chuckle:)

I think we carry 4 RB and a FB, so its probably Carey Davis by default at FB and the other 4 are Parker, Mendenhall, Moore and ??? Summers or Redman???.

Fun camp battle to see, but I'm not as excited as most about the #4 RB competition.

AllD
08-17-2009, 07:18 PM
This team is loaded at the scoring positions and special teams. We need more practice in the run game and the OL is still the weakest link. Solve the OL problem and you enhance the run game. Defense is still the best in the NFL/world.

SteelTalons
08-17-2009, 08:04 PM
There's a few whiny little biatchio's on here that take what people say and manipulate it into entirely something else! And I'm guessing, growing up in your households with you boys, there was no winning an argument about which vegetable was better at the dinner table.

I can hear it now ....

Little Sister: Broccoli is the best vegetable because it is more healthy for you

Whiny Little Biatchio Brother: Bwah hah hah! She said broccoli is better than corn! Remember when Big Sister said lima beans was the best vegetable. Look at how sad lima beans are now! They're pathetic!

Little Sister: It's broccoli I'm telling you!

Whiny Little Biatchio Brother: That's the vegetable John Kuhn ate when he was a loser! Broccoli sucks until I say it doesn't suck! When I say it don't suck no more, then broccoli is worthy!

What the hell... Your puffing the same stuff Sid and Marty did when they come up with this thing aint you?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/141575373_d6b69173c6.jpg?v=0

Galax Steeler
08-18-2009, 04:57 AM
I think Summers stays with his special team talent. He could play full back and special teams. I think Davis is the odd man out here.

ricksteelers55
08-18-2009, 05:47 AM
I think that

Parker,Mendenhall and Moore are all lock with Frank Summers.(I think that Frank's versatility gives him the edge for a roster spot)

Now it will be interesting to see if we keep 4 or 5 RB/FB if we do keep 5 then it will be between Davis and Redman I think.

if not then Redman will end up on the practice squad.

But either way I dont think that Redman will get to see a lot of playing time this year even if he makes the team I think he will end up being a healthy scratch most of the games because there is no room for him in the backfield.

BTW: I cant wait to see what will happen for Mendenhall this year.

O Sensei
08-18-2009, 06:07 AM
I think some are getting a little ahead of themselves where Mendenhall is concerned...theres a bit of a learning curve from college to pros and while natural ability can sometimes vault a back quicker than it would other positioned players even the brightest talents need to get up to speed no pun intended. While he may look to some as being tentative it's clear he has natural talent, eventually he has to "get it"...and so maybe he isn't the next Jim Brown...I've gotta believe he's gonna be better than the first Isaac Redman.

It's gonna be very interesting to see who ends up where, I for one still don't have a clear bead on what you would call a "Tomlin Guy", if in fact Davis is one, does Summers go to the PS? Remember, for all the talk about tank playing ST, davis does as well and though I don't have stats or anything I think I remember him being pretty effective there. Whoever ends up on the roster...the likelihood of them actually getting many carries I would guess to be rather slim. Parker, when healthy, is a known commodity and still a threat, Mendenhall, like it or not is being groomed as the future, add moore into the mix...they're really not gonna dress Redman just to dive into endzones are they, with all their weapons?

revefsreleets
08-18-2009, 10:20 AM
Yea you should have gotten your opinion a little more informed......Maybe you would have not voted for McCain.......

I'm not even sure what that means...I probably did about as much research on this election as ANYONE. You are, kind sir, absolutely barking up the wrong tree here...

Poster with opinion: "The World is flat...and because this is only my opinion, you can't tell me I'm wrong".

Poster with INFORMED opinion: "You think the World is flat? It's a proven fact that it's round. Sorry, you're stupid and I'm putting you on ignore"

The Lakelander
08-18-2009, 11:35 AM
Poster with opinion: "Redman has some serious skills ... and because this is only my opinion, you can't tell me I'm wrong until Tomlin cuts him".

Poster with INFORMED opinion: "You think Redman has skills? It's a proven fact that Redman is Kuhn and that I know more than you because I have 2800 posts here and you only have 51. Sorry, you're stupid and I'm putting you on ignore"

:chuckle:

:thumbsup:

:flap:

:toofunny:

:sofunny:

:rofl:

revefsreleets
08-18-2009, 11:42 AM
Poster with opinion: "Redman has some serious skills ... and because this is only my opinion, you can't tell me I'm wrong until Tomlin cuts him".

Poster with INFORMED opinion: "You think Redman has skills? It's a proven fact that Redman is Kuhn and that I know more than you because I have 2800 posts here and you only have 51. Sorry, you're stupid and I'm putting you on ignore"




I'm MUCH more talking about the continued Arians bashing, especially from guys who know next to nothing about football (my new favorite is how we can't run a screen because the line can't block. HELLO! Football 101: On a screen play, the line LETS the defenders run past them...so you'd think that would play to our strengths). The Mewelde Moore >>> Willie Parker idiocy is another sore spot.

But I have to admit this new one (Redman >>> Mendenhall) is very entertaining so far.

The Lakelander
08-18-2009, 11:45 AM
But I have to admit this new one (Redman >>> Mendenhall) is very entertaining so far.

:chuckle:

:popcorn:

The pressure is squarley on Rashard.

Are you one of the ones that does well reading between Tomlin's lines?

"Mendenhall is a second-year player, and that is how I treat him, that is what I expect from him. I expect the jump from him that I expect from all second-year players. This is his second lap around the track in terms of being a professional athlete and football player. Those are our expectations of him. Injuries are a part of the game, we accept that. We don't make concessions because of injury. We expect him to be a mature guy and to this point that is how he has conducted himself. "

Steel Head
08-18-2009, 11:49 AM
I'm MUCH more talking about the continued Arians bashing, especially from guys who know next to nothing about football (my new favorite is how we can't run a screen because the line can't block. HELLO! Football 101: On a screen play, the line LETS the defenders run past them...so you'd think that would play to our strengths). The Mewelde Moore >>> Willie Parker idiocy is another sore spot..

Linemen have to get out in the flats and block dip$hit. Did you watch the Giants O-line do this to perfection last night? Steelers like Faneca and Dirt Dawson were masters at doing this.

Quit being so pretentious Mr. thinks he knows all

revefsreleets
08-18-2009, 11:57 AM
Linemen have to get out in the flats and block dip$hit. Did you watch the Giants O-line do this to perfection last night? Steelers like Faneca and Dirt Dawson were masters at doing this.

Quit being so pretentious Mr. thinks he knows all

Sir douchalot, let me give you a little primer...on a basic screen, you sucker the defense in towards the QB, who then lobs the ball over the encroaching defenses heads, preferably to a RB. Draw plays works on the same premise, but I suppose you and mmalone don't think the line blocks well enough to execute that play either, right?

See, THIS is the kind of retardation I'm talking about! How can you argue so passionately about stuff you don't even UNDERSTAND?

steelreserve
08-18-2009, 12:11 PM
I'm not buying into the 1 game preseason folk hero just yet. (I was crushed by John Kuhn :chuckle:)

I think we carry 4 RB and a FB, so its probably Carey Davis by default at FB and the other 4 are Parker, Mendenhall, Moore and ??? Summers or Redman???.

Fun camp battle to see, but I'm not as excited as most about the #4 RB competition.

Yeah, it's not going to be an earth-shattering move to see who essentially replaces Gary Russell on the depth chart. Even if Summers or Redman can run like a truck in short yardage, I'm under no illusion that either one is going to see more than spot duty. But I understand why people are excited about that, because short yardage was such a nagging problem all season. I mean, even though third-and-1 only comes up a few times a game, having someone who can make it consistently means a difference of two or three punts. If we can fix that with either a fifth-round pick or an undrafted rookie, then hell yeah.

I also doubt we'll have room for more than 4 RBs and a FB, but I'm hoping we can ditch Davis because even if the Tank isn't fully ready, we can still use McHugh as a FB. I just don't see any potential in Davis, and even if the Tank turns out to be a complete flop, we wouldn't be that much worse off.

The Lakelander
08-18-2009, 12:19 PM
Yeah, it's not going to be an earth-shattering move to see who essentially replaces Gary Russell on the depth chart. Even if Summers or Redman can run like a truck in short yardage, I'm under no illusion that either one is going to see more than spot duty. But I understand why people are excited about that, because short yardage was such a nagging problem all season. I mean, even though third-and-1 only comes up a few times a game, having someone who can make it consistently means a difference of two or three punts. If we can fix that with either a fifth-round pick or an undrafted rookie, then hell yeah.

I also doubt we'll have room for more than 4 RBs and a FB, but I'm hoping we can ditch Davis because even if the Tank isn't fully ready, we can still use McHugh as a FB. I just don't see any potential in Davis, and even if the Tank turns out to be a complete flop, we wouldn't be that much worse off.

:thumbsup: I whole-heartedly agree.

Love the way the camp battles have been arranged at RB and FB.

mmalone
08-18-2009, 12:19 PM
Sir douchalot, let me give you a little primer...on a basic screen, you sucker the defense in towards the QB, who then lobs the ball over the encroaching defenses heads, preferably to a RB. Draw plays works on the same premise, but I suppose you and mmalone don't think the line blocks well enough to execute that play either, right?

See, THIS is the kind of retardation I'm talking about! How can you argue so passionately about stuff you don't even UNDERSTAND?

mmalone here... i have all the best for our players... its our plays... remember im the arians basher, not the OL basher....

you have screens where the OL converges three OL as blockers and the receiving RB /TE/WR run behind the blockers in the screen play.. giants favorite...

then you have the screen play where the RB leaves the blitz and get 2 yards out behind the d line between the hash marks and catches a pass, that is a screen too. but he is usually on his own after he catches the ball, Brady does this every series of downs...

2 different styles of a screen play...

...

revefsreleets
08-18-2009, 12:22 PM
One thing that's important to remember in light of all this (and I posted it yesterday): In his last (and really only) year at Illinois, Mendy had 16 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 opportunities, and he converted 14. The guy has some power, and as we learned from the Bus days, you CAN overcome a little bit of an advantage up front if you have a bruiser. I don't think we'll ever see another 280 RB like Bettis again, but Mendenhall is surely a better bet than Russell or Parker in that regard.

Dino 6 Rings
08-18-2009, 12:40 PM
I just like that Summers is getting snaps as the FB, I'd love to see him turn into a lead blocker with the potential of getting quick handoffs on the inside.

Steel Head
08-18-2009, 12:59 PM
mmalone here... i have all the best for our players... its our plays... remember im the arians basher, not the OL basher....

you have screens where the OL converges three OL as blockers and the receiving RB /TE/WR run behind the blockers in the screen play.. giants favorite...

then you have the screen play where the RB leaves the blitz and get 2 yards out behind the d line between the hash marks and catches a pass, that is a screen too. but he is usually on his own after he catches the ball, Brady does this every series of downs...

2 different styles of a screen play...

...

the idiot thinks linemen don't have to block on screens

morons like that and the last argument i got into (someone saying Polamalu is slow :banging:) really make me not want to post here anymore

Steel Head
08-18-2009, 01:01 PM
Sir douchalot, let me give you a little primer...on a basic screen, you sucker the defense in towards the QB, who then lobs the ball over the encroaching defenses heads, preferably to a RB. Draw plays works on the same premise, but I suppose you and mmalone don't think the line blocks well enough to execute that play either, right?

See, THIS is the kind of retardation I'm talking about! How can you argue so passionately about stuff you don't even UNDERSTAND?

yeah and the linemen need to get out in the flat and block to make a screen work

you are the retardation around here and you just cant UNDERSTAND

Dino 6 Rings
08-18-2009, 01:05 PM
I think in short yardage the Fullback is the Key as much as the Oline. I don't think Davis or McHugh can do the job the way we were accustomed to with Krieder. Frank could be that guy that barrells open a hole with his size and if he has it, toughness.

Steel Head
08-18-2009, 01:07 PM
I think in short yardage the Fullback is the Key as much as the Oline. I don't think Davis or McHugh can do the job the way we were accustomed to with Krieder. Frank could be that guy that barrells open a hole with his size and if he has it, toughness.

I agree that fullback is very important in short yardage. Davis just can't get it done period. McHugh isn't bad in spot duty (remember he rocked Bart Scott's helmet off his head). Summers looked pretty good as a lead blocker against the backups last game

Davis biggest asset to the team is special teams but I think we have enough other good special teams players that he won't be missed. Davis can also catch the ball good but who cares because he can't run after the catch at all

Dino 6 Rings
08-18-2009, 01:10 PM
That's why I really hope Summers gets more reps at FB this weekend. I want to see him as the FB, even if he is a Rookie this season, going forward he could be the lead blocker for years to come, if he can handle that duty. McHugh and Summers should be able to do that job this year, allowing us to Cut Davis who I agree, hasn't done so much that he's a "must keep" kind of guy.

mmalone
08-18-2009, 01:26 PM
That's why I really hope Summers gets more reps at FB this weekend. I want to see him as the FB, even if he is a Rookie this season, going forward he could be the lead blocker for years to come, if he can handle that duty. McHugh and Summers should be able to do that job this year, allowing us to Cut Davis who I agree, hasn't done so much that he's a "must keep" kind of guy.

i was saying it would be nice to see Summers get the ball a dozen times this week and in the game and have redman make the blocks and see how that plays out. summers obviously is a good blocker , tomlin says he is and he is loves the combat... so lets see him run and see redman block, we seen that redman has the run ability but can he block.. we have not seen that against a live team...

steelreserve
08-18-2009, 01:32 PM
i was saying it would be nice to see Summers get the ball a dozen times this week and in the game and have redman make the blocks and see how that plays out. summers obviously is a good blocker , tomlin says he is and he is loves the combat... so lets see him run and see redman block, we seen that redman has the run ability but can he block.. we have not seen that against a live team...

Oh, but don't forget, no matter who we hand the ball to, they're going to be terrible. Even Jerome Bettis couldn't gain any yards for us with this offensive line, because they don't open enough holes. That's the only reason the great Willie Parker didn't break the 2,000-yard mark last season. So there's no point in even trying different running backs, because they'll all do the same.

Or so some people would have you believe.

mmalone
08-18-2009, 01:39 PM
Oh, but don't forget, no matter who we hand the ball to, they're going to be terrible. Even Jerome Bettis couldn't gain any yards for us with this offensive line, because they don't open enough holes. That's the only reason the great Willie Parker didn't break the 2,000-yard mark last season. So there's no point in even trying different running backs, because they'll all do the same.

Or so some people would have you believe.

Well the other thing is people are picturing redman taking mendy's or parkers or moores job on this board... this is between... vincent, davis, logan vs redman, summers.... for a job.. like i said before wow... not much of a gamble here...

revefsreleets
08-18-2009, 04:01 PM
the idiot thinks linemen don't have to block on screens

morons like that and the last argument i got into (someone saying Polamalu is slow :banging:) really make me not want to post here anymore

Did your mother have any children that lived that actually KNEW anything about football?

The OL collapse and let the defense into the backfield to chase the QB (hence my sarcastic remark about OUR OL, nitwit) who drops straight back...usually a RB sneaks out of the backfield, runs 2 yards downfield, turns around and the QB lobs a ball over the defensive players head. The OL does need to block at the second level, but that's terminology I'm not comfortable using with extreme novices such as yourself.

Football 101.

You MAY be discussing a bubble screen (but I doubt it), which is a WR screen, and a slightly different animal, but THAT is predicated upon the other WR's making some initial blocks since there aren't many lineman in the league who are going to sprint 30 yards in 1 second to block for the WR who catches that pass...

If you are talking about a jailbreak screen, then, yes, the OL need to rush out to the flats and block, but that's awful complex for such a simpleton as yourself.

The OL is required to block in any case, but NOT at the point of attack...or rather, they are not required to sustain their blocks.

Anyway, you guys just said "screen", so I kept it simple for the stupid....

So much anger in you young padawan learner...but I DO agree with one thing: PLEASE DON'T post here anymore...you will not be missed, and we could all glean just as much football knowledge from watching paint dry as reading your posts.

mmalone
08-18-2009, 06:37 PM
yeah and the linemen need to get out in the flat and block to make a screen work

you are the retardation around here and you just cant UNDERSTAND

someone looked up screen definitions and is picking on you now...:tt03:

MasterOfPuppets
08-18-2009, 06:50 PM
does anyone find it odd that the biggest focal point..the oline... seems to be getting the least amount of coverage ? i'd like to hear a bit more about urbik, and legursky's progress than these redundant articles on redman.

steelreserve
08-18-2009, 06:54 PM
The hype I've heard is that Urbik's doing so-so, Legursky is OK but a little shaky with the blocking schemes with the first team, and Foster is kicking ass compared to what was expected of him. The rest of the linemen I haven't heard squat about.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-19-2009, 12:11 AM
does anyone find it odd that the biggest focal point..the oline... seems to be getting the least amount of coverage ? i'd like to hear a bit more about urbik, and legursky's progress than these redundant articles on redman.

OK.......Legursky is battling hard and looks solid but inexperienced. He should make the 53 IMO, but its not a lock.

Urbik again looks stout against the pass, picks up blitzes nicely, but his feet arent the best and he is slowly adjusting to the speed of the NFL defenders. In the run game he blocks well, but overall he appears to be thinking more than just playing.

Ramon Foster showed nice agility on pulling and arrives with a nasty aggression like that of Colon. He is playing against backups in the preseason game, but is probably in a battle with Legursky for the final roster spot on the O line.