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The Lakelander
08-20-2009, 09:57 AM
Quarterback
1. Roethlisberger (returning)
2. Batch (returning)
3. Dixon (returning)

Running Back
4. Parker (returning)
5. Mendenhall (returning)
6. Moore (returning)
7. Redman (new player) - replaces Russell

Full Back
8. Summers (new player) - replaces Davis

Wide Receiver
9. Ward (returning)
10. Holmes (returning)
11. Sweed (returning)
12. Wallace (new player) - replaces Washington
13. McDonald (new player) - replaces Baker

Tight End
14. Miller (returning)
15. Spaeth (returning)
16. McHugh (returning)

Center
17. Hartwig (returning)
18. Stapleton (returning) - plays Guard also

Offensive Guard
19. Kemoeatu (returning)
20. Essex (returning) - plays Tackle also
21. Foster (new player) - replaces Simmons
22. Urbik (new player) - replaces Smith

Offensive Tackle
23. Starks (returning)
24. Colon (returning)
25. Hills (returning)

Kicker/Punter
26. Reed (returning)
27. Sepulveda (returning)
28. Warren (returning)

Defensive End
29. Smith (returning)
30. Keisel (returning)
31. Kirschke (returning)
32. Hood (new player) - replaces Roye
33. Harris (new player) - replaces Eason

Defensive Tackle
34. Hampton (returning)
35. Hoke (returning)

Linebacker
36. Harrison J. (returning)
37. Farrior (returning)
38. Woodley (returning)
39. Timmons (returning)
40. Fox (returning)
41. Frazier (returning)
42. Bailey (returning)
43. Woods (returning)
44. Davis (returning)

Cornerback
45. Taylor (returning)
46. Gay (returning)
47. Townsend (returning)
48. Lewis K. (new player) - replaces McFadden
49. Burnett (new player) - replaces Madison

Safety
50. Polamalu (returning)
51. Clark (returning)
52. Carter (returning)
53. Mundy (new player) - replaces Smith



Practice Squad
1. C - Shipley
2. QB - Reilly
3. TE - Johnson
4. CB - Lewis R.
5. WR - Black or Williams
6. T - Capizzi
7. RB - Vincent
8. LB - Schantz

Cut
RB - Logan - Just no room here this year. May land somewhere.
FB - Davis C. - Tough decision. Coach's pet. It's time though.
WR - Nance
WR - Black or Williams - One of these guys makes the Practice Squad.
WR - Grisham
TE - Sherrod
C - Legursky - Tough decision. Should land somewhere.
OG - Parquet
DE - Eason - Veteran player should land somewhere.
DT - McLendon
DT - Paxson
LB - Korte
LB - Harrison A. - Odd man out in a very deep group. He had his chances. Should land somewhere.
CB - Ratliff - Was assurance in case one of the rookies didn't pan out. Should land somewhere.
CB - Madison - Gets bumped by return specialist and play maker Burnett. Should land somewhere.
S - Richardson
K - Czech
P - Johnson

BlastFurnace
08-20-2009, 10:08 AM
I agree with most of what you are predicting other than the following:

Madison: according to beat writers, Mundy has not impressed at all and Deshea can slide over to safety if necessary. Madison will make the roster over Mundy.

Eason: I don't see him getting cut either. He played pretty well last year. I could see Kirschke or Harris getting cut before Eason. I am in favor of keeping Harris and Eason over Kirschke.

Davis: As much as it pains me to say this, I hae a feeling that he somehow finds his way on the roster. Not saying that I disagree with you that he shouldn't, but he's just one of those guys that sticks around.

The Lakelander
08-20-2009, 10:17 AM
Thanks Blast!

Well received! :hatsoff:

The Lakelander
08-20-2009, 10:20 AM
If Carey Davis makes it, Frank Summers can blame his current hammy for that one. Summers is close right now to knocking out Davis, but for that hammy this week.

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 10:30 AM
After watching Legursky I am not convinced he gets cut...he performed VERY well against first string talent.

klick81
08-20-2009, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the list. Looks great to have all those returners in there.

wootawnee
08-20-2009, 11:45 AM
Madison should find a way to stay on the roster.......He is valuable even if his salry is high.......He made some plays at corner in a few games also.....

Dino 6 Rings
08-20-2009, 11:51 AM
After watching Legursky I am not convinced he gets cut...he performed VERY well against first string talent.

Plus he's got a very cool name!

Steel Head
08-20-2009, 12:29 PM
is Mundy that good? i havent seen much from him. Roy Lewis is better

Steel Head
08-20-2009, 12:32 PM
what about rookie TE/H-back David Johnson? i missed him play last game but heard he looks good and might challenge for McHugh's roster spot.

I hope we keep McHugh though as the Steelers have never won a Super Bowl without a Penn Stater on their roster FACT

mmalone
08-20-2009, 12:37 PM
good list...

shipley , Parquet may stay... urbik may hit the PS..

After Saturday it will clear up more.

Steel Head
08-20-2009, 12:38 PM
urbik may hit the PS..


i doubt that. he would most likely be scooped up by another team

Youngstown Steeler
08-20-2009, 01:18 PM
I think this is a good effort. BTW does anyone else get the urge to call him Bronco Legursky?

Indo
08-20-2009, 01:36 PM
I agree with others that I think The Big Legursky makes the roster

Steeldude
08-20-2009, 02:23 PM
i think...

legursky will make it

bruce davis will be cut or sent to PS

43Hitman
08-20-2009, 02:42 PM
i think...

legursky will make it

bruce davis will be cut or sent to PS

I also think Carey Davis, even though I really don't like him, will make the team purely because he is so reliable on special teams. Redman, while I am rooting for him, even if it costs me 30 bucks, I think is practice squad bound.

lilyoder6
08-20-2009, 02:54 PM
i think doug will make the team.. he did play very well against the cardinals starters and what not...

and i think they will keep scott as well.. they kept him last yr as the #3 dt.. so i see them keeping him again..

i aslo believe that shipley can make the team.. and well as jason...

but i might be a lil bias as i know these guys and hope they make the team.... lol

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 02:56 PM
Please bear in mind that Practice Squad players carry free agents status. I can't see a guy like Legursky surviving that, but I CAN see Davis getting cut (Is he eligible for the PS? Did he dress for six games last year?). How many teams need solid middle OL depth versus a one-dimensional 3-4 LB prospect with limited ST capabilities?

I also guarantee that whatever RB gets relegated to the PS between Summers and Redman gets picked up by another team almost immediately.

one side only
08-20-2009, 03:38 PM
what about rookie TE/H-back David Johnson? i missed him play last game but heard he looks good and might challenge for McHugh's roster spot.

I hope we keep McHugh though as the Steelers have never won a Super Bowl without a Penn Stater on their roster FACT

Big difference between Jack Ham and Sean McHugh.

AllD
08-20-2009, 03:40 PM
Big difference between Jack Ham and Sean McHugh.

Yeah, like walking up to the edge of the Gran Cayon and looking out.

43Hitman
08-20-2009, 03:43 PM
Please bear in mind that Practice Squad players carry free agents status. I can't see a guy like Legursky surviving that, but I CAN see Davis getting cut (Is he eligible for the PS? Did he dress for six games last year?). How many teams need solid middle OL depth versus a one-dimensional 3-4 LB prospect with limited ST capabilities?

I also guarantee that whatever RB gets relegated to the PS between Summers and Redman gets picked up by another team almost immediately.

I would assume that if our FO senses that then they'll sign one if not both of them?

one side only
08-20-2009, 03:52 PM
If Legursky is so good, then why didn't anyone sign him last year?

Davis isn't eligible for the practice squad.

Remember, a practice squad player can be signed by another team, but he must be placed on that team's 53-man roster; a player can't go from practice squad to practice squad. What team is going to cut a running back from their 53-man roster in favor of Redman or Summers? Please . . .

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 03:59 PM
If Legursky is so good, then why didn't anyone sign him last year?

Davis isn't eligible for the practice squad.

Remember, a practice squad player can be signed by another team, but he must be placed on that team's 53-man roster; a player can't go from practice squad to practice squad. What team is going to cut a running back from their 53-man roster in favor of Redman or Summers? Please . . .

Running backs get hurt...early and often. Did I say it would happen right away?

Also, by your vaunted "logic", James Harrison should have been signed away and kept by another team.

Read more before you start posting....please....

one side only
08-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Running backs get hurt...early and often. Did I say it would happen right away?

Also, by your vaunted "logic", James Harrison should have been signed away and kept by another team.

Read more before you start posting....please....


Don't lecture me, @sshole.

Read a little on mobility from practice squad to active rosters. Doesn't happen often, certainly not enough to justify keeping either Redman or Summers. Using your logic, one of them will become the running back equivalent of the NFL Defensive Player of the Year,. So the Steelers should keep one or both to protect them from an eventual signing by a team that loses a RB to injury. Yeah . . .

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 04:11 PM
Don't lecture me, @sshole.

Read a little on mobility from practice squad to active rosters. Doesn't happen often, certainly not enough to justify keeping either Redman or Summers. Using your logic, one of them will become the running back equivalent of the NFL Defensive Player of the Year,. So the Steelers should keep one or both to protect them from an eventual signing by a team that loses a RB to injury. Yeah . . .

21 posts and you called me an asshole because I said that Redman or Summers will get picked up by another team?

OUR PS fodder gets picked up all the time...why? Because we draft and select well. Harrison was signed on and off rosters 4 times, and not just ours.

Legursky represented himself VERY well against a first team D...if he maintains that, why WOULDN'T he make the roster?

I effing HATE this time of year, a bunch of pissant, know-nothing loud mouth jackass posters come out of the woodwork spouting off nonsense...

Indo
08-20-2009, 04:17 PM
I effing HATE this time of year, a bunch of pissant, know-nothing loud mouth jackass posters come out of the woodwork spouting off nonsense...


yeah, well...ARIANS SUCKS!! :thmbup:

.24lockdown
08-20-2009, 04:20 PM
I effing HATE this time of year, a bunch of pissant, know-nothing loud mouth jackass posters come out of the woodwork spouting off nonsense...

lol its during reg season too.:noidea:

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 04:21 PM
I'd even go as far as saying that an AFC North rival might sign Redman (should he be the one relegated to the PS) simply because he scored on 5 of 7 GL drills. Why not? We see offensive players of ours stolen every year by teams...Jax used to sign our PS/cut QB's every year there for awhile...any little thing to gain a competitive edge.

Anyway, nonsense aside, I stick to my original point: If we keep one of these RB's on our practice squad, they'll be signed by someone within the first few weeks of the regular season. We are SO deep at RB that it almost puts us at a disadvantage that we can't keep and develop all these guys.

Indo
08-20-2009, 04:26 PM
It sucks to have so many options.

one side only
08-20-2009, 04:28 PM
21 posts and you called me an asshole because I said that Redman or Summers will get picked up by another team?

OUR PS fodder gets picked up all the time...why? Because we draft and select well. Harrison was signed on and off rosters 4 times, and not just ours.

Legursky represented himself VERY well against a first team D...if he maintains that, why WOULDN'T he make the roster?

I effing HATE this time of year, a bunch of pissant, know-nothing loud mouth jackass posters come out of the woodwork spouting off nonsense...


No, I called you an @sshole because you presume that post count equates to knowledge, something you confirm in your reply.

Happens all the time? Right . . . Harrison's situation is an anomaly, so much so it is repeated ad nauseum by announcers every game.

I didn't say Legursky wasn't going to make the roster, I made the point that he wasn't signed last year by anyone, even though he had his share of "keep him because someone else will sign him" fans.

Noah Herron, Lee Vickers, Willie Reid, Brian St. Pierre, John Kuhn, . . . that's a regular murders row there.

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 04:35 PM
No, I called you an @sshole because you presume that post count equates to knowledge, something you confirm in your reply.

Happens all the time? Right . . . Harrison's situation is an anomaly, so much so it is repeated ad nauseum by announcers every game.

I didn't say Legursky wasn't going to make the roster, I made the point that he wasn't signed last year by anyone, even though he had his share of "keep him because someone else will sign him" fans.

Noah Herron, Lee Vickers, Willie Reid, Brian St. Pierre, John Kuhn, . . . that's a regular murders row there.

I'm calling YOU an asshole because after only 20 posts you foolishly use your 21st to attack a poster instead of that posters argument.

That's stupid no matter HOW many posts you have....

one side only
08-20-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm calling YOU an asshole because after only 20 posts you foolishly use your 21st to attack a poster instead of that posters argument.

That's stupid no matter HOW many posts you have....

OK, not only are you an @sshole, you are a stupid one at that. I've addressed your argument. Players make the roster to be on the roster, not to be protected from other teams. I love the competitive edge argument . . . teams sign Steeler castoffs every year. I don't have the stats at my fingertips, but name one significant signing from the Steelers practice squad. The only signing that had anything to do with gaining a competitive edge was BSP to the Ravens, and that's a stretch.

I think Redman has the team made, and it will take an egregious error on his part or Summers improving his performance dramatically and soon for Redman to get cut.

The reason there isn't much mobility from practice squads to other teams active rosters is there is a steep learning curve for player learning a new system, especially in the middle of a season. The vast majority of these signings are fringe players who hardly ever dress for games, see action even less often and rarely have an impact.

Your point that injuries happen is valid, but most often teams sign a player from their own practice squad.

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 04:59 PM
So I'm not only an asshole, but I'm a stupid asshole?

OK...that's nice...have a wonderful day!

one side only
08-20-2009, 05:15 PM
So I'm not only an asshole, but I'm a stupid asshole?

OK...that's nice...have a wonderful day!


Apparently so.

You flame me as a pissant, know nothing but don't have the facts to back up your own assertions. I destroyed your argument, but had to do it twice because you didn't recognize it the first time.

Now, you give me a "Have a nice day,' as if to say I'm not worth dealing with.

So not only a stupid @sshole, but an arrogant one at that.

Keep that post count up . . . street cred!

revefsreleets
08-20-2009, 05:21 PM
Apparently so.

You flame me as a pissant, know nothing but don't have the facts to back up your own assertions. I destroyed your argument, but had to do it twice because you didn't recognize it the first time.

Now, you give me a "Have a nice day,' as if to say I'm not worth dealing with.

So not only a stupid @sshole, but an arrogant one at that.

Keep that post count up . . . street cred!

You got one thing right: You AREN'T worth dealing with.

I hope YOU see 100...I doubt it though.

Nonetheless, I'm working towards a kinder, gentler approach...therefore I will simply put you on my ignore list where I will protect myself from saying anything that could get me infracted while also missing absolutely nothing by not being able to read your posts.

ricksteelers55
08-20-2009, 05:32 PM
Here is what I think might happen

1. Roethlisberger (returning)
2. Batch (returning)
3. Dixon (returning)

Running Back
4. Parker (returning)
5. Mendenhall (returning)
6. Moore (returning)
7. Summers(new player) - replaces Russell

Full Back
8. Davis (returning) - I have the feeling that they will keep him hopefully im wrong

Wide Receiver
9. Ward (returning)
10. Holmes (returning)
11. Sweed (returning)
12. Wallace (new player) - replaces Washington
13. McDonald (new player) - replaces Baker

Tight End
14. Miller (returning)
15. Spaeth (returning)
16. McHugh (returning)

Center
17. Hartwig (returning)
18. Legursky
19. Stapleton (returning) - plays Guard also

Offensive Guard
20. Kemoeatu (returning)
21. Essex (returning) - plays Tackle also
22. Foster (new player) - replaces Simmons
23. Urbik (new player) - replaces Smith

Offensive Tackle
24. Starks (returning)
25. Colon (returning)
26. Hills (returning)

Kicker/Punter/LS
26. Reed (returning)
27. Sepulveda (returning)
28. Warren (returning)

Defensive End
29. Smith (returning)
30. Keisel (returning)
31. Kirschke (returning)
32. Hood (new player) - replaces Roye
33. Harris (new player) - replaces Eason

Nose Tackle
34. Hampton (returning)
35. Hoke (returning)

Linebacker
36. Harrison J. (returning)
37. Farrior (returning)
38. Woodley (returning)
39. Timmons (returning)
40. Fox (returning)
41. Frazier (returning)
42. Bailey (returning)
43. Woods (returning)
44. Davis (returning)

Cornerback
45. Taylor (returning)
46. Gay (returning)
47. Townsend (returning) - can play safety too
48. Lewis K. (new player) -
49. Burnett (new player) -
50. Rattliff (new player)

Safety
51. Polamalu (returning)
52. Clark (returning)
53. Carter (returning)

Practice Squad
1. C - Shipley
2. QB - Reilly
3. TE - Johnson
4. S - Mundy
5. WR - Black
6. K - Czech
7. RB - Redman
8. T - Capizzi

mmalone
08-20-2009, 05:45 PM
Apparently so.

You flame me as a pissant, know nothing but don't have the facts to back up your own assertions. I destroyed your argument, but had to do it twice because you didn't recognize it the first time.

Now, you give me a "Have a nice day,' as if to say I'm not worth dealing with.

So not only a stupid @sshole, but an arrogant one at that.

Keep that post count up . . . street cred!

let him go... he has other followers from Acorn Ohio that back his non sense up.

redman may take over vincent and logan for a spot...

and davis could lose his spot to summers as he is blocking very well.
he blocked well as a fullback in the arizona game. we will see there.

redman did miss a ST tackle and Czech had to bring down the returner right in front of tomlin.. that didnt help him for ST plus i have not seen redman block much in a game. so as a #4-5 RB he may be in.

i think summers may get the FB spot.

tony hipchest
08-20-2009, 07:40 PM
good job lakelander.

i think derrick richardson makes the practice squad. not just because im a homer, but with carter and clark (and even townsend) possibly leaving, and only mundy left with much uncertainty, i think he is groomed for a role as back up.

much more important than a #6 cb roy lewis, as far as insurance purposes go.

im still not sure how much our kick return coverage suffers if we dump both madison and c. davis.

X-Terminator
08-20-2009, 11:24 PM
That's a nice breakdown, Lakelander (see, I'm not really an ogre :wink02:). We will get a much clearer picture after Saturday's game, at which point I'd like to revisit this to see how accurate you may ultimately be.

steelreserve
08-21-2009, 02:44 AM
I've got to say, the original list is about as good as I've seen. Only things I see are on the practice squad - I don't think Capizzi is allowed to go there any longer, and if Vincent doesn't make the real team, why are we still bothering with him? He's already 26 and needs to show he can be more than a marginal player if we want to keep interest in him, IMO.

I also hope this Johnson kid turns out to be awesome at TE and convinces us to finally give up on the Matt Spaeth experiment. It's a longshot, I know, but Spaeth seems to be a guy who's kind of stuck in neutral. So either he needs to live up to his potential, or we need to see what Johnson can do. I guess that's what competition is all about.

Galax Steeler
08-21-2009, 04:20 AM
If Legursky is so good, then why didn't anyone sign him last year?

Steelers seem to bring out the best in players I believe that he has a good chance to make the team. He has had a good camp. It is just my opinion.

KeiselPower99
08-21-2009, 07:55 AM
No, I called you an @sshole because you presume that post count equates to knowledge, something you confirm in your reply.

Happens all the time? Right . . . Harrison's situation is an anomaly, so much so it is repeated ad nauseum by announcers every game.

I didn't say Legursky wasn't going to make the roster, I made the point that he wasn't signed last year by anyone, even though he had his share of "keep him because someone else will sign him" fans.

Noah Herron, Lee Vickers, Willie Reid, Brian St. Pierre, John Kuhn, . . . that's a regular murders row there.

Actually there is a way to keep teams from signing your PS guys. You pay them more then the regular rookie on the Ps. Legursky wasnt picked up by anyone cause he is very raw and needed time to work on a few things. Pittsburgh has him and from what I can tell he is staying this year. Its the same kinda situation they had with Hank Fraley in 2000. Played great during the preseason but no spot on the 53. They probably dont wanna make that mistake again.

Steel Head
08-21-2009, 08:00 AM
Big difference between Jack Ham and Sean McHugh.

yeah because that was a comparison i was making

:banging:

FacemeIke
08-21-2009, 08:17 AM
Great breakdown, and very accurate in my opinion. I do think Eason makes the team though. I loved him as a backup last year. Also, how long is Stapleton out for? I think Shipley makes the roster, especially considering the Stapleton injury.

revefsreleets
08-21-2009, 08:31 AM
As for Capizzi, as long as he hasn't played 6 games, he's eligible. You can stay on a practice squad for up to 3 seasons, so he's still fine since he came into the league in 2007.

Also, to address the earlier absurd statement that there is little transaction activity in re practice squad rosters, let's just take a look at Capizzi as an example. Since 2007, he's been with the Chiefs, the Bucs, the Rams, the Jets and the Steelers, and he was also placed on the Steelers IR last year, which, if I'm not mistaken, may actually extend his eligibility for the PS.

KeiselPower99
08-21-2009, 08:56 AM
Great breakdown, and very accurate in my opinion. I do think Eason makes the team though. I loved him as a backup last year. Also, how long is Stapleton out for? I think Shipley makes the roster, especially considering the Stapleton injury.

Shipley dont make it. He isnt flexible enough to play guard. Legursky is. Stapleton should be back by the end of the preseason.

mmalone
08-21-2009, 09:07 AM
Shipley dont make it. He isnt flexible enough to play guard. Legursky is. Stapleton should be back by the end of the preseason.

you sure he is not flexible?

In 2004, Shipley competed on the Penn State scout team as a defensive tackle. The following year, he shuttled between the offensive and defensive lines. He moved to center in 2005 spring drills, providing depth there and at offensive guard the first half of the season.

Prior to the Illinois game, he went back to defensive tackle, making five tackles with two sacks the remainder of the season, participating in 226 snaps for the 2005 campaign.

In 2006, Shipley secured a starting job at center, competing in 897 plays. He tallied 54 knockdowns with seven touchdown resulting blocks and also recorded a solo tackle vs. Northwestern. PSU's offense managed to average 349.92 yards per game, as the offensive line allowed only 23 sacks.

That's one of the reasons I chose Penn State. He said you can be a good defensive tackle -- but I think you can be a 10-year guy in the NFL if you make the move to center." So Shipley made the move and had to become a quick learner. "I was in some big games and tough situations," Shipley said.

FSUBoo
08-22-2009, 11:28 PM
After tonights preseason game against the Redskins, I say that Logan finds a way on the roster solely as a returner. He had a monster night returning kicks.

The Lakelander
08-22-2009, 11:47 PM
After tonights preseason game against the Redskins, I say that Logan finds a way on the roster solely as a returner. He had a monster night returning kicks.

That and the fact that Joe Burnett has fumbled both of his punt returns all but solidifies it for Logan. Plus Keiwan Ratliff has played exceptionally well as a CB.

Looks like Burnett could end up on the practice squad now. I hope we can keep this kid though. He needs time but he's gonna be good.

That changes my list a little bit.

I'm not sold on Nick Eason beating out Sonny Harris for this team. Harris is playing real tough.

FSUBoo
08-23-2009, 12:21 AM
I think we got one of the best players in this draft in Ziggy Hood. He looks good, and looks like he can be a force. I also think it's kinda crazy and a testament to the type of player he is that Aaron Smith (I think it was Smith lol) said that he is picking it up faster than any other rookie he has ever seen.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 09:24 AM
After two games I'll take a shot at this...

Quarterback
1. Roethlisberger (returning)
2. Batch (returning)
3. Dixon (returning)

Running Back
4. Parker (returning)
5. Mendenhall (returning)
6. Moore (returning)
7. Redman (new player...as a RB/FB... torn between him and Summers)
8. Logan (new player...RB/WR/RS)

Wide Receiver
9. Ward (returning)
10. Holmes (returning)
11. Sweed (returning)
12. Wallace (new player)
13. McDonald (new player)

Tight End
14. Miller (returning)
15. Spaeth (returning)
16. Johnson (new player)

Center
17. Hartwig (returning)
18. Legursky (new player ...OC/OG)

Offensive Guard
19. Stapleton (returning...OC/OG )
20. Kemoeatu (returning)
21. Essex (returning...OG/OT)
22. Urbik (new player)

Offensive Tackle
23. Starks (returning)
24. Colon (returning)
25. Hills (returning)
26. Capizzi (New player)

Kicker/Punter/LS
26. Reed (returning)
27. Sepulveda (returning)
28. Warren (returning)

Defensive End
29. Smith (returning)
30. Keisel (returning)
31. Eason (returning...again, torn between Eason and Kirschke)
32. Hood (new player)

Nose Tackle
33. Hampton (returning)
34. Hoke (returning)

Linebacker
35. Harrison J. (returning)
36. Farrior (returning)
37. Woodley (returning)
38. Timmons (returning)
39. Fox (returning)
40. Frazier (returning)
41. Bailey (returning)
42. Woods (returning)
43. Davis (returning)

Cornerback
44. Taylor (returning)
45. Gay (returning)
46. Madison (returning)
47. Lewis K. (new player) -
48. Burnett (new player) -
49. Rattliff (new player)

Safety
50. Polamalu (returning)
51. Clark (returning)
52. Carter (returning)
53. Mundy (new player

Practice Squad
1. OC - Shipley
2. OG-Foster
3. RB-Summers
4. S-Richardson
5. TE-Sherrod
6. NT-Paxson
7. DE-Harris
8. QB-Reilly

austinfrench76
08-23-2009, 10:58 AM
I like the roster but the PS is going to be tough. With their pre season play I don't think that Shipley, Foster or Summers would clear waivers. The rest looks good though.

Dino 6 Rings
08-23-2009, 11:34 AM
Burnett should not make this team.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 11:36 AM
Burnett should not make this team.

Burnett had the ST blunder..but I think he is actually a pretty good CB.

steelersfanman92
08-23-2009, 11:43 AM
Burnett should not make this team.

I have been disappointed by him so far, but I think it is still a little early to say that he shouldn't make the team.

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 12:06 PM
good job LLT. heres my concern... cutting townsend, davis, and mchugh. we go from wanting a better FB to having no proven FB whatsoever. from the little i know, redman and johnson arent brainiacs who are gonna pick up all the blocking assignments in the span of a camp.

is townsend a better safety than mundy? i dont know, but if clark went down i know townsend could fill in and get the team lined up correctly. word is mundy is extremely intelligent. perhaps he is ready to do the same.

loosing foote hurt chemistry. i think the same could be said if we dump towmsend, and davis brings chemistry to ST's.

after our last SB we lost hope, el, jerome, and von oelhoffen. they were old, or not the most productive players, but they were locker room leader "chemistry" guys.

i think that hurt us as much as lame duck cowher and bens accident.

maybe im just being paranoid and overrating chemistry, but i dont think so.

no matter what, theres gonna be 2-3 dudes being cut this year that i will hate seeing have success on other teams, no matter if its shipley, legursky, stapelton, logan, the tank, or the guys mentioned above.

we gotta keep burnett. he sure can catch the ball. needs to work with parker or rb coach kirby on holding on to it.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 12:10 PM
is it just me or is this the deepest team we've had in a long long time?

i posted this earlier and was attacked by that troll reves..... but i think it's true

it's a shame some good players are going to get cut

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 12:11 PM
good job LLT. heres my concern... cutting townsend, davis, and mchugh. we go from wanting a better FB to having no proven FB whatsoever. from the little i know, redman and johnson arent brainiacs who are gonna pick up all the blocking assignments in the span of a camp.

is townsend a better safety than mundy? i dont know, but if clark went down i know townsend could fill in and get the team lined up correctly. word is mundy is extremely intelligent. perhaps he is ready to do the same.

loosing foote hurt chemistry. i think the same could be said if we dump towmsend, and davis brings chemistry to ST's.

after our last SB we lost hope, el, jerome, and von oelhoffen. they were old, or not the most productive players, but they were locker room leader "chemistry" guys.

i think that hurt us as much as lame duck cowher and bens accident.

maybe im just being paranoid and overrating chemistry, but i dont think so.

no matter what, theres gonna be 2-3 dudes being cut this year that i will hate seeing have success on other teams, no matter if its shipley, legursky, stapelton, logan, the tank, or the guys mentioned above.

we gotta keep burnett. he sure can catch the ball. needs to work with parker or rb coach kirby on holding on to it.

Great point about chemistry...I think too often we forget what a factor it is in producing team chemistry.

Like I said...i might be wrong about Townsend...and I'm just calling it a "hunch" right now.

In regards to the FB situation...McHugh is the one player that I wanted to keep on the roster when I was trying to figure it out...someone else brought up switching him and Johnson...and I can totally see that.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 12:15 PM
Great point about chemistry...I think too often we forget what a factor it is in producing team chemistry.

Like I said...i might be wrong about Townsend...and I'm just calling it a "hunch" right now.

In regards to the FB situation...McHugh is the one player that I wanted to keep on the roster when I was trying to figure it out...someone else brought up switching him and Johnson...and I can totally see that.

good job.

I just cant see them cutting Townsend. he has made so many clutch plays for us over the years and a lot last year too

Johnson is supposed to be a H-back right? I havent seen him much but have read good things. Can he line up at FB and lead block like McHugh??? I hate how Carey Davis cant lead block well. He hits the hole all soft. Lead blocking is the most important thing a FB does. Davis is like a "finesse fullback" which should be an oxy-moron

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 12:17 PM
is it just me or is this the deepest team we've had in a long long time?

i posted this earlier and was attacked by that troll reves..... but i think it's true

it's a shame some good players are going to get cut

You are right on the money....We are going to lose some good players to other teams when we make the final cuts.

That is going to kill me!!!

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 12:32 PM
is it just me or is this the deepest team we've had in a long long time?
nah. were deep as dinosaur shit. infact, i think our 2nd team defense would improve about half the teams in the league. i think our 4 back up lb'ers have looked great on the field together. and our 2nd team secondary swarms to the ball, and shows mega team speed. plus ziggy hood, and all of our rb's and wr's and we are good.

Great point about chemistry...I think too often we forget what a factor it is in producing team chemistry.

Like I said...i might be wrong about Townsend...and I'm just calling it a "hunch" right now.

In regards to the FB situation...McHugh is the one player that I wanted to keep on the roster when I was trying to figure it out...someone else brought up switching him and Johnson...and I can totally see that.i dont know if cutting a long time veteran like townsend so late in the game is the steeler (rooney) way. they tend to not slap their players in the face and will go the extra mile to do players like foote and porter a favor.

which raises the dilemma.... if we do keep him, who goes? madison, ratliff, burnett, mundy? all 4 are really good. madison is what he is and nothing more, but he is great at it. losing mundy leaves us incredibly thin at safety. wasnt their a point in the last 2 years polamalu and clark were both missing at the same time? to early to give up on burnett (although we may be able to keep him on the practice squad.

i think were least invested in ratliff (but he does look pretty good out there). :noidea: so confused. it seems in past years the roster cuts were so much more obvious.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 01:01 PM
i dont know if cutting a long time veteran like townsend so late in the game is the steeler (rooney) way. they tend to not slap their players in the face and will go the extra mile to do players like foote and porter a favor.

which raises the dilemma.... if we do keep him, who goes? madison, ratliff, burnett, mundy? all 4 are really good. madison is what he is and nothing more, but he is great at it. losing mundy leaves us incredibly thin at safety. wasnt their a point in the last 2 years polamalu and clark were both missing at the same time? to early to give up on burnett (although we may be able to keep him on the practice squad.

i think were least invested in ratliff (but he does look pretty good out there). :noidea: so confused. it seems in past years the roster cuts were so much more obvious.

1) Madison...Pros: led the team in Special Team tackles during regular season and during playoffs. Cons: career wave player at CB.

2) Ratliff...Pros: several years under his belt, good instincts and good hands, would be the 3rd CB on the team, has shown aggression in the pre-season with one pick and one sack in 2 games Cons: Very few...may not have the defensive playbook completely memorized yet.

3) Burnett...Pros: Looked good at CB, with one pick in the preseason, versatile. Cons: Return ability may be nullified by Logan, may need a year to fully understand the scheme

4) Lewis...Pros: Uber-aggressive, very good in run support, good instincts. Cons: Like Burnett he may need a year to fully understand the scheme.

5) Townsend...Pros: Knows the defense which is more complicated than most realize...can play 3rd CB and can play safety if needed. Cons: Will be 34 at beginning of season, has definately lost a step...As a backup will still cost us $2,373,000.00 against the cap this year.

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 01:30 PM
5) Townsend...Pros: Knows the defense which is more complicated than most realize...can play 3rd CB and can play safety if needed. Cons: Will be 34 at beginning of season, has definately lost a step...As a backup will still cost us $2,373,000.00 against the cap this year.i havent heard anything about our cap since we signed heath miller to his new deal.

there is definitely money to be found releasing the likes of kirchke, eason, townsend, mchugh in favor of rookies (almost 3 million, id say). and we did let foote go for the exact reason you stated above.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 01:43 PM
i havent heard anything about our cap since we signed heath miller to his new deal.

there is definitely money to be found releasing the likes of kirchke, eason, townsend, mchugh in favor of rookies (almost 3 million, id say). and we did let foote go for the exact reason you stated above.

here is a look at the 2009 base salary and 2009 cap hit for the CB's

CB William Gay................ $460,000.00..........$495,000.00
CB Ivan Taylor....................$2,640,000.00......$5,67 0,000.00
CB DeShea Townsend....$1,800,000.00......$2,373,000.00
CB Anthony Madison........$1,010,430.00......$1,010,430.00
CB Roy Lewis....................$310,000.00..........$310 ,000.00
CB Keiwan Ratliff..............$620,000.00..........$670,000 .00
CB Joe Burnett..................$310,000.00..........$348 ,667.00
CB Keenan Lewis.............$310,000.00..........$350,000.00

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-23-2009, 01:48 PM
here is a look at the 2009 base salary and 2009 cap hit for the CB's

CB William Gay................ $460,000.00..........$495,000.00
CB Ivan Taylor....................$2,640,000.00......$5,67 0,000.00
CB DeShea Townsend....$1,800,000.00......$2,373,000.00
CB Anthony Madison........$1,010,430.00......$1,010,430.00
CB Roy Lewis....................$310,000.00..........$310 ,000.00
CB Keiwan Ratliff..............$620,000.00..........$670,000 .00
CB Joe Burnett..................$310,000.00..........$348 ,667.00
CB Keenan Lewis.............$310,000.00..........$350,000.00

haha.

Anyways, my defensive backs would be
Gay, Taylor, Townsend, Ratliff, and Burnett.

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 01:56 PM
i forgot madison was making that much. townsend took less money to stay with the steelers, and i think it was tampa bay who offered madison more money to leave.

i think the team will look upon that kindly. ratliff could be a steal though for that price.

:tap: decisions, decisions....(that seems like a large cap hit for ike being that he has restructured twice to lower the hit- he must count for like 8 million next year).



Anyways, my defensive backs would be
Gay, Taylor, Townsend, Ratliff, and Burnett.

woah. no keenan lewis? crazy.

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-23-2009, 02:02 PM
i forgot madison was making that much. townsend took less money to stay with the steelers, and i think it was tampa bay who offered madison more money to leave.

i think the team will look upon that kindly. ratliff could be a steal though for that price.

:tap: decisions, decisions....(that seems like a large cap hit for ike being that he has restructured twice to lower the hit- he must count for like 8 million next year).



woah. no keenan lewis? crazy.

You could maybe put him on the practice squad. Ultimately it comes down to him, Ratliff, and Burnett. I like that Ratliff has some experience. And Burnett can return punts.

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 02:08 PM
You could maybe put him on the practice squad. Ultimately it comes down to him, Ratliff, and Burnett. I like that Ratliff has some experience. And Burnett can return punts.well he can catch punts, but of the 3 he caught he dropped 2 trying to return it.

keenan is a 3rd round pick. i will bet my steelersfan club card he makes the team.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 02:09 PM
haha.

Anyways, my defensive backs would be
Gay, Taylor, Townsend, Ratliff, and Burnett.

"Ike" is Taylors nickname...his real name is Ivan.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 02:10 PM
You could maybe put him on the practice squad. Ultimately it comes down to him, Ratliff, and Burnett. I like that Ratliff has some experience. And Burnett can return punts.

No, You are suggesting we put Keenin Lewis on the practice squad? time for a reality check, that will not happen. Lewis is really good and will make the roster guaranteed.

If anything, Burnett is the one we will stash on the practice squad now that Logan looks to be the real deal as a returner

my db list:

Ike Taylor
Gay
Townsend
Keenin Lewis
Ratliff

Polamalu
Clark
Ty Carter
Roy Lewis - he's better and more versatile than Mundy

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-23-2009, 02:12 PM
keenan is a 3rd round pick. i will bet my steelersfan club card he makes the team.

Yeah, Keenan Lewis isnt going anywhere. He will probably be the nickel back in 2010.

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 02:16 PM
ive been seeing keenan lewis all over the field, always running to the ball, and it seems as if hes trying to be in on every tackle.

but what about roy lewis? has he not seen much action or have i really been looking at 2 lewis's all along?

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 02:18 PM
well he can catch punts, but of the 3 he caught he dropped 2 trying to return it.

keenan is a 3rd round pick. i will bet my steelersfan club card he makes the team.

Lewis is on the team and is going to be a very good player for us...Ratliff is a better CB than Townsend at this point in their careers and fits that veteran backup slot that we need...I think its Burnett ,Townsend, and Madison for the last two slots and I give the edge to the younger, versatile players.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 02:19 PM
ive been seeing keenan lewis all over the field, always running to the ball, and it seems as if hes trying to be in on every tackle.

but what about roy lewis? has he not seen much action or have i really been looking at 2 lewis's all along?

I just re-watched last night's game. You are right, K. Lewis was all over the field and he is physical (hits hard)

Roy Lewis played decent. He stood out more in the 1st game though. He is better than Mundy imo and better than Carter probably too.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 02:22 PM
Lewis is on the team and is going to be a very good player for us...Ratliff is a better CB than Townsend at this point in their careers and fits that veteran backup slot that we need...I think its Burnett ,Townsend, and Madison for the last two slots and I give the edge to the younger, versatile players.

Lambert - check out my db list in post #70 and let me know what u think

I like Burnett but i think that we can stash him on the practice squad and not lose him. Then he can make the team next year when Townsend retires. With Logan, we dont need Burnett to return punts (we also have M. Moore and Holmes to occassionally return punts)

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 02:24 PM
ive been seeing keenan lewis all over the field, always running to the ball, and it seems as if hes trying to be in on every tackle.

but what about roy lewis? has he not seen much action or have i really been looking at 2 lewis's all along?

Maybe this means less that I make of it...But just saw that R.Lewis has been quietly racking up tackels in the preseason...he has 7 solo and 2 assists. I have to be honest and admit that I had him as a "cut"..but might want to rethink that.

Surprisingly...I notice that Townsend has no stats at all.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 02:28 PM
Lambert - check out my db list in post #70 and let me know what u think

I like Burnett but i think that we can stash him on the practice squad and not lose him. Then he can make the team next year when Townsend retires. With Logan, we dont need Burnett to return punts (we also have M. Moore and Holmes to occassionally return punts)

I was just noticing that Lewis is making some tackles and that I might be premature to write him off...Very good list. (I think we may be able to hide Mundy for another season on the practice squad if Lewis is ready to play)

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 02:30 PM
I just re-watched last night's game. You are right, K. Lewis was all over the field and he is physical (hits hard)

Roy Lewis played decent. He stood out more in the 1st game though. He is better than Mundy imo and better than Carter probably too.

Good....Put Mundy on the practice squad and we cut Carter next year.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 02:33 PM
I was just noticing that Lewis is making some tackles and that I might be premature to write him off...Very good list. (I think we may be able to hide Mundy for another season on the practice squad if Lewis is ready to play)

yeah, I've been a fan of Roy Lewis since last year so I have been keeping an eye on him and like what i see.

actually just today I had to look up the roster because I saw both Lewis's making good plays. Roy is #30 and Keenan is #20. I guess they'll have to add a K. and an R. on their jerseys if Roy makes the team

you're right, they could probably stash Mundy on the p.s. and not lose him. he has potential but hasn't stood out imo

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 02:35 PM
Roy Lewis played decent. He stood out more in the 1st game though. He is better than Mundy imo and better than Carter probably too.wow. it turns out alot of the good hustle i have been attributing to keenan has actually been roy (not that it takes anything away from keenans play). no wonder "lewis" seemed to be everywhere.

i'll tell you what though, them 2 along with arnold harrison, ratliff, k. fox and even derrick richardson have shown some great hustle and flow to the ball. they are really playing full throttle and to the whistle. really the whole defensive unit is, but those guys as back ups have really stood out to me.

tribute to lebeau and tomlin.

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 03:29 PM
i asked jim wexell about roy lewis while we were posting about him above and this was his response-

Roy Lewis is interesting because he can play CB and S, but lacking a bit at both. Could develop into S on PS.

:hunch:

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 04:03 PM
what's the deal with Tony Hills? he sucks right?

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 04:07 PM
what's the deal with Tony Hills? he sucks right?

Got called for two illegal formation penalties last night...Luck is on his side in that he is at a thin position.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 04:25 PM
Got called for two illegal formation penalties last night...Luck is on his side in that he is at a thin position.

i saw him get beat a lot and then he got tossed like a ragdoll that one play

if Starks or Colon were to get hurt, they should just move Essex out to tackle

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 04:36 PM
i saw him get beat a lot and then he got tossed like a ragdoll that one play

if Starks or Colon were to get hurt, they should just move Essex out to tackle

I think thats the plan...Capizzi is also still in the mix.

OneForTheToe
08-23-2009, 04:44 PM
i saw him get beat a lot and then he got tossed like a ragdoll that one play

if Starks or Colon were to get hurt, they should just move Essex out to tackle


That leads me to the question of what happens if Essex gets hurt while starting at guard? He is the only backup tackle I trust. That is why I would kind of like to see Legursky get a chance at the LG spot. Essex has been good but he hasn't been great. Assuming Stapleton will be ready close to the start of the season he could back up both the guard and center positions while Essex backed up the guard/tackle positions. We've gone with just 8 O'linemen active on game days in the past, so you throw in one more tackle and there are your 8 active o'linemen.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 08:42 PM
regarding rookie TE David Johnson, i found this good article on him in the post gazette on August 20th: http://postgazette.com/pg/09232/992067-66.stm

quotes from Arians:

"He's the first guy I've ever seen knock James Harrison an inch backward," said offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Not a foot, but an inch, anyway.

"He's just so powerful when we put him up against linebackers. And against our defensive ends, he really stood out. You talk to those guys, they say, 'Man, this kid's got some punch.' And he can run and catch."

"If he continues to come around, we might have found a jewel because that's the guy who can also play fullback," Arians said.



I'd love to see what Johnson can do lined up as a FB

BehindSteelCurtain
08-23-2009, 08:46 PM
regarding rookie TE David Johnson, i found this good article on him in the post gazette on August 20th: http://postgazette.com/pg/09232/992067-66.stm

quotes from Arians:

"He's the first guy I've ever seen knock James Harrison an inch backward," said offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "Not a foot, but an inch, anyway.

"He's just so powerful when we put him up against linebackers. And against our defensive ends, he really stood out. You talk to those guys, they say, 'Man, this kid's got some punch.' And he can run and catch."

"If he continues to come around, we might have found a jewel because that's the guy who can also play fullback," Arians said.



I'd love to see what Johnson can do lined up as a FB

Nice find.......

revefsreleets
08-24-2009, 10:01 AM
I think the "Tony Hills Experiment" is about to end. I'm not sure if they keep Foster in his stead or what, but he's not impressing much at LT.

arge5809
08-24-2009, 11:01 AM
McHugh and Johnson are better than Spaeth

revefsreleets
08-24-2009, 11:12 AM
Yeah, I also have Spaeth as the odd man out, too...simply because in this offense, blocking trumps pass catching at the TE position.

Steel Head
08-24-2009, 01:22 PM
I think Vincent played more than Redman because they're trying to hide Redman right now and temper some of the big talk about him.

He's not ready to contribute on special teams, so to keep him on the roster, he'd have to be one of the top two or three backs. He's not, so he's likely headed to the practice squad. But they don't want to show him too much in the preseason because then he would get signed away.

makes sense to me. if they can't fit Redman on the roster this year, hide him untill next year!

Tomlin is smart

revefsreleets
08-24-2009, 01:50 PM
I don't know...."hiding" a RB on the practice squad? I might buy that if there wasn't all this positive pub about him already, but the cat's kind of out of the bag already, no?

Maybe they have already decided to keep Redman so they just gave Vincent carries to give him some reps, just in case someone gets hurt, assuming they assign HIM to the PS?

AllD
08-24-2009, 04:50 PM
Vincent can't make a 3rd and 1 whereas Redman does almost everytime. There is no debate here. It's all about results and pedigree was never mentioned until a passing comment with ziggy Hood and that was the first time I have heard that about a Steeler since Mark Malone.

KeiselPower99
08-25-2009, 02:35 PM
Here is my Steelers roster

QB
Roethlisberger
Batch
Dixon

RB
Parker
Mendenhall
Moore
Summers
Logan
Redman

WR
Ward
Holmes
Sweed
Wallace
McDonald

TE
Miller
Spaeth
Johnson

OL
Starks
Kemoeatu
Hartwig
Essex
Colon
Hills
Foster
Legursky
Stapleton
Urbik
Capizzi

DL
Smith
Hampton
Keisel
Hood
Hoke
Harris

LB
Woodley
Timmons
Farrior
Harrison
Davis
Fox
Bailey
Woods

CB
Taylor
Gay
Townsend
K. Lewis
Madison

S
Clark
Polamalu
Carter

K
Reed

P
Sepulveda

Ls
Warren

PS
Rielly QB
Shipley C
Burnett CB
Sherrod TE
Mundy S
Paxson DT

Im gonna leave the last 2 spots on the practice squad open as we always sign a guy or two from other teams.

SteelMember
08-25-2009, 03:10 PM
hmmm. Thats a lot of oline there Keisel. Looks like the Cb's/Lb's took the hit.

Here's mine.....

Quarterback
1. Roethlisberger
2. Batch
3. Dixon

Running Back
4. Parker
5. Mendenhall
6. Moore
7. Redman

Full Back
8. Davis

Wide Receiver
9. Ward
10. Holmes
11. Sweed
12. Wallace
13. McDonald

Tight End
14. Miller
15. Spaeth
16. Johnson

O-Line
17. Hartwig
18. Stapleton
19. Kemoeatu
20. Essex
21. Legursky
22. Urbik
23. Starks
24. Colon
25. Hills/Capizzi

Special Teams
26. Reed
27. Sepulveda
28. Warren
29. Logan (5th RB)

D-Line
30. Smith
31. Keisel
32. Hood
33. Eason
34. Hampton
35. Hoke

Linebacker
36. Harrison, J
37. Farrior
38. Woodley
39. Timmons
40. Fox
41. Harrison, A
42. Bailey
43. Woods
44. Davis

Secondary
45. Taylor
46. Gay
47. Townsend
48. Lewis K.
49. Burnett
50. Polamalu
51. Clark
52. Carter
53. Ratliff

Practice Squad
1. C - Shipley
2. RB - Summers
3. OT - Foster
4. CB - Lewis R.
5. WR - Grisham / Black
6. DT - Harris
7. S - Mundy / Richardson
8. LB - Korte

TampaSteelerFan
08-25-2009, 03:42 PM
That and the fact that Joe Burnett has fumbled both of his punt returns all but solidifies it for Logan. Plus Keiwan Ratliff has played exceptionally well as a CB.

Looks like Burnett could end up on the practice squad now. I hope we can keep this kid though. He needs time but he's gonna be good.

That changes my list a little bit.

I'm not sold on Nick Eason beating out Sonny Harris for this team. Harris is playing real tough.


I agree, we can't get rid of Burnett. He is a playmaker...Just look at his int against Arizona where he telegraphed that pass and then nearly took it to the house

mmalone
08-25-2009, 04:19 PM
read this and check your sheets for FB and TE - Dave Johnson

1. “He’s the first guy I’ve ever seen knock James Harrison an inch backward,” said offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. “Not a foot, but an inch, anyway.

2. “He’s just so powerful when we put him up against linebackers. And against our defensive ends, he really stood out. You talk to those guys, they say, ‘Man, this kid’s got some punch.’ And he can run and catch.”

3. “If he continues to come around, we might have found a jewel because that’s the guy who can also play fullback,” Arians said.

Not a bad day’s work for the guy now being labeled “one of the biggest surprises in training camp.” At 6′2 260lb he can play TE or FB. We pulled a few of his clips and sorted them in the 70 second video we posted below. There might be a Frank Summers sighting in the video as well.

It’s funny how the FB/TE/RB debate is turning out to be the most heated battle in camp. Bruce Arians doesn’t really use traditional fullbacks but he likes using 3 TE sets. The one “true FB” on the roster from last year is Carey Davis and most Steeler fans have no clue why this guy is even on the team…..yet the media is telling us that Davis is a LOCK to survive roster cuts.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-25-2009, 08:59 PM
hmmm. Thats a lot of oline there Keisel. Looks like the Cb's/Lb's took the hit.

Here's mine.....

Quarterback
1. Roethlisberger
2. Batch
3. Dixon

Running Back
4. Parker
5. Mendenhall
6. Moore
7. Summers

Full Back
8. Davis

Wide Receiver
9. Ward
10. Holmes
11. Sweed
12. Wallace
13. McDonald

Tight End
14. Miller
15. Spaeth
16. McHugh

O-Line
17. Hartwig
18. Stapleton
19. Kemoeatu
20. Essex
21. Legursky
22. Urbik
23. Starks
24. Colon
25. Hills/
26.Foster

Special Teams
27. Reed
28. Sepulveda
29. Warren
30. Logan (5th RB)

D-Line
31. Smith
32. Keisel
33. Hood
34. Eason
35. Hampton
36. Hoke

Linebacker
37. Harrison, J
38. Farrior
39. Woodley
40. Timmons
40. Fox
41. Frazier
42. Davis
44. Woods


Secondary
45. Taylor
46. Gay
47. Townsend
48. Lewis K.
49. Burnett
50. Polamalu
51. Clark
52. Carter
53. Ratliff

Practice Squad
1. C - Shipley
2. TE-Johnson
3. RB-Redman
4. CB - Lewis R.
5. WR - Grisham / Black
6. DT - Harris
7. S - Mundy
8. LB - Korte

I like your list, but I made a few changes as to what I think. Basically, Summers beats out Redman, Woods ST play makes Bailey expendible and Frazier is the top backup at OLB. The TE's stay the same and Johnson gets hid on the PS along with Sonny Harris. The only chance is that maybe Hoke gets cut and either Eason or Harris can play backup NT, but I dont think so.