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SlackerCSB
08-22-2009, 09:19 PM
... this guy looks like the return specialist we've been looking for, since..... as far back as I can remember!

StainlessStill
08-22-2009, 09:33 PM
Logan is what we were missing since #82. This kid is showing promise. Very pleased that SOMEONE has FINALLY stepped up, esp after Burnett's 2nd football in as many weeks. Logan played the whole night which means we like what we see.

devilsdancefloor
08-22-2009, 09:49 PM
wow he showed alot this evening for sure i think they said he was avg 39.5 yds a returd WOW

ricksteelers55
08-22-2009, 09:55 PM
Logan is the 4th RB we will keep

write this down

Parker
Moore
Mendenhall
Logan

Davis vs Summers for the FB spot

AllD
08-22-2009, 09:56 PM
His work will eventually translate to points per game whether you measure it indirectly with field position or directly with run back TDs.

The team will ride him until somebody can stop him.

Psyychoward86
08-22-2009, 09:58 PM
Logan gave me a boner after every return tonight. So did Sepulveda.

Da Steeler Soprano
08-22-2009, 10:00 PM
The radio broadcast said he had over 200 return yards! This dude is a monster.

KeiselPower99
08-22-2009, 10:01 PM
Damn tv blackout. I hope he sticks.

HometownGal
08-22-2009, 10:02 PM
I think this kid making the roster is pretty much a lock. :thumbsup:

Hotrodder07
08-22-2009, 10:13 PM
I think it would be almost impossible for this guy not to make the team, if he keeps performing like this. It looks like he has the ability to take any return to the house.

Texasteel
08-22-2009, 10:23 PM
I think this kid making the roster is pretty much a lock. :thumbsup:

Totally agree, the guy was electrifying.

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-22-2009, 10:29 PM
Since he's a running back, it could very well lead to Moore being cut.

X-Terminator
08-22-2009, 10:33 PM
Since he's a running back, it could very well lead to Moore being cut.

Well, at least that would finally get rid of UFN the Tool once and for all...

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-22-2009, 10:36 PM
Well, at least that would finally get rid of UFN the Tool once and for all...

UFN the Tool? Who is that?

ricksteelers55
08-22-2009, 10:49 PM
Since he's a running back, it could very well lead to Moore being cut.

I dont see that happening.Moore played very well last year when Parker went down,and with the current situation in the backfield I think they will keep him.

Im curious to see what will happen with Frank Summers though.

Is he going to end up on the PS ? or does he have a real shot at the FB job ?

I dont know but I have the feeling that Carey Davis will be back with Parker,Moore,Mendy and Logan as RB

we'll see hopefully im wrong

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-22-2009, 11:13 PM
I dont see that happening.Moore played very well last year when Parker went down,and with the current situation in the backfield I think they will keep him.

Im curious to see what will happen with Frank Summers though.

Is he going to end up on the PS ? or does he have a real shot at the FB job ?

I dont know but I have the feeling that Carey Davis will be back with Parker,Moore,Mendy and Logan as RB

we'll see hopefully im wrong

See, I have Redman in there as well, which would make for 4 RBs (parker, mendenhall, redman, logan). Summers may just end up on the PS. No room.

CaliStillersFan
08-22-2009, 11:25 PM
BTW where was redman tonight? I was surprised he didn't get more carries. I keep hearing about how well he's doing in camp in shirt yardage and goaline, and he was great last week. Tonight only 2 carries at the end of the game.

ricksteelers55
08-22-2009, 11:53 PM
BTW where was redman tonight? I was surprised he didn't get more carries. I keep hearing about how well he's doing in camp in shirt yardage and goaline, and he was great last week. Tonight only 2 carries at the end of the game.

because as much as he's been effective in goal line drills it doesnt seem like he can run on a regular basis.(and it looks like Justin Vincent is in front of him in the chart)

he cant run against 3rd and 4th stringers....

plus the coaches didnt give him a single carry in one of our 3 shot at the goal line(the one that Willie scored) so that might tell us that he isnt that big of a deal for the coaching staff.

I think that Willie can do the job in goal line if he has the good FB and protection in front of him.

I guess we'll see

BTW: Is it me or Justin Vincent's days with the Steelers are over ? I wasnt impress by his play tonight and didnt understand why he got carries that we could have give Redman or even Mendenhall.

is Summers still injured ? all those questions were unfilled for me tonight

7willBheaven
08-23-2009, 12:08 AM
Logan = Our Darren Sproles?!?!

FSUBoo
08-23-2009, 12:10 AM
There is no way that Moore gets cut, especially in favor of Redman. You can throw me to the dogs for saying this, but MeMo was HUGE for us last year when Parker and Mendenhall were injured. I'll even go as far as to say that there were times where I would have considered starting Moore over Parker cause he was playing better football. The biggest reason Moore sticks around is cause he does everything. He can run, catch, and block. That's exactly what you look for in a 3rd down RB. He plays tough and overachieves despite a serious lack of measureables.

I also see Summers overtaking Davis (possibly) in the fullback slot. He's only been playing the classic fullback role for a little while, and he already looks like a good blocker.

FSUBoo
08-23-2009, 12:11 AM
Logan = Our Darren Sproles?!?!

I don't know if I would go that far, but he's looking like an good returner at the very least.

7willBheaven
08-23-2009, 12:19 AM
I don't know if I would go that far, but he's looking like an good returner at the very least.


Yeah i know...i mean Sproles is way above this kid right now...but i'm just talkin in size...style (fast/etc)...just a lot of similarities

FSUBoo
08-23-2009, 12:32 AM
Yeah I'll give you that, but Sproles also played D1 talent in college, while Logan played against smaller schools and much less gifted players.

Preacher
08-23-2009, 01:02 AM
The kid REALLY impressed me. However, I want to see him against a couple other ST's as well.

But I was thoroughly impressed.

steelreserve
08-23-2009, 01:05 AM
I liked him, but nobody ever made the team based on just one game. Except JaMarcus Russell.

arge5809
08-23-2009, 01:06 AM
The silver lining of an otherwise black cloud injury plagued start to the preseason....

7willBheaven
08-23-2009, 01:13 AM
Yeah I'll give you that, but Sproles also played D1 talent in college, while Logan played against smaller schools and much less gifted players.

Yeah....just their basics n all...i dunno anything about Sproles background etc...and all i know about Logan was he was a CFL player/etc...but just the stuff i mentioned they seem similar...if Logan turn into 1/2 of what sproles can do on a regular then i'd be happy.

Galax Steeler
08-23-2009, 06:25 AM
Logans speed last night was amazing. I hope that last night was just not a one night wonder. He almost broke a couple and went the distance. I don't understand why we don't try him out for the running back position. If he could run the ball then he would have a better shot at making the team.

theplatypus
08-23-2009, 06:46 AM
Logans speed last night was amazing. I hope that last night was just not a one night wonder. He almost broke a couple and went the distance. I don't understand why we don't try him out for the running back position. If he could run the ball then he would have a better shot at making the team.


People knocked Warrick Dunn for being too small, but he did a decent job.

BlastFurnace
08-23-2009, 07:06 AM
Since he's a running back, it could very well lead to Moore being cut.

Moore will not be cut. He's way too valuable to us. The competition to make the team is down to Summers, Davis, Logan, or Redman.

StainlessStill
08-23-2009, 07:12 AM
Screw Logan, I think we should sign Allen Rossum.


(Holds in Laugh):hatsoff:

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 07:51 AM
Moore will not be cut. He's way too valuable to us. The competition to make the team is down to Summers, Davis, Logan, or Redman.

The wild card is that Logan has been lining up at the WR slot. But if they do give him a RB slot ...then Davis has got to go......we go into the season with Mendenhall...Parker..Logan...Moore and one of the two of Redman/Summers...with the other on the practice sguad.

mmalone
08-23-2009, 08:06 AM
The wild card is that Logan has been lining up at the WR slot. But if they do give him a RB slot ...then Davis has got to go......we go into the season with Mendenhall...Parker..Logan...Moore and one of the two of Redman/Summers...with the other on the practice sguad.

well get rid of all the FB and big backs, here is what Parker says..

"I want to make that a habit," Parker said of scoring touchdowns. "I want to keep doing it, keep doing it, keep doing it so the coaches don't have any other goal-line set and I'll be the goal-line guy."

WeegiesWarriors
08-23-2009, 08:11 AM
I use to work in college for a bad D1 college football team in the equipment room. We had a 5'-5" guy with humungous speed. We use to joke with telling him he is going to get killed because he was so small.

He would just smile and say those fat guys will never get a clean hit on me. He was right. I started watching other "small" college and even NFL players. They have the ability to twist at the last possible second to avoid straight on shots with the big boys.

9 times out of 10 Logan will deflect big hits. PLus I saw Logan did take a tough hit last night and he bounced right back up. I think he'll be fine.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 08:21 AM
well get rid of all the FB and big backs, here is what Parker says..

"I want to make that a habit," Parker said of scoring touchdowns. "I want to keep doing it, keep doing it, keep doing it so the coaches don't have any other goal-line set and I'll be the goal-line guy."

What Parker wants and the reality of a 240 lb bruiser going up the middle is two different things. We need a big back for three reasons...1) to wear down those fat DT's and open up the game for our smaller backs 2) a big back who can find the crease and pump out an extra 12 inches before going down is invaluable. 3) to open up holes and block in specific situations. Regardless of what Parker wants, there is a difference between getting blocked by Parker and getting rocked by Summers. Simple physics.

Texasteel
08-23-2009, 08:56 AM
The wild card is that Logan has been lining up at the WR slot. But if they do give him a RB slot ...then Davis has got to go......we go into the season with Mendenhall...Parker..Logan...Moore and one of the two of Redman/Summers...with the other on the practice sguad.

I would love to see want Logan could on a reverse.

pancake
08-23-2009, 09:23 AM
The wild card is that Logan has been lining up at the WR slot. But if they do give him a RB slot ...then Davis has got to go......we go into the season with Mendenhall...Parker..Logan...Moore and one of the two of Redman/Summers...with the other on the practice sguad.

Great point... He might be one of those guys who do mulitple spots (PR, KR, RB, WR).

After his second or third return, I posted that the FO needs to find a spot for this kid.

WOW!!!! :tt02: I could see this kid being a pro bowl returner... To think that our special teams could be as good as our Defense.

fansince'76
08-23-2009, 09:55 AM
We have to find a roster spot for Logan...

I think we will or already have....

BC Lions told don't expect Stefan Logan to return

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?p=618447#post618447

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 09:59 AM
Great point... He might be one of those guys who do mulitple spots (PR, KR, RB, WR).

After his second or third return, I posted that the FO needs to find a spot for this kid.

WOW!!!! :tt02: I could see this kid being a pro bowl returner... To think that our special teams could be as good as our Defense.

I posted what I thought may be the 53 man roster ...and put Logan as a RB...but stated that I thought he might end up being a RB/WR/RS...

Originally Posted by Texasteel
I would love to see want Logan could do on a reverse.

I was thinking the same thing.

HometownGal
08-23-2009, 09:59 AM
Moore will not be cut. He's way too valuable to us. The competition to make the team is down to Summers, Davis, Logan, or Redman.

Logan definitely gets my vote here. :thumbsup:

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 10:02 AM
yeah, they might have to make room for Logan. Having a reliable punt return is so valuable imo, we all remember what happened a couple years ago

Carey Davis absolutely sucks, they better cut him

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 10:06 AM
I buried this in an old thread but here is what I think may happen...

Quarterback
1. Roethlisberger (returning)
2. Batch (returning)
3. Dixon (returning)

Running Back
4. Parker (returning)
5. Mendenhall (returning)
6. Moore (returning)
7. Redman (new player...as a RB/FB... torn between him and Summers)
8. Logan (new player...RB/WR/RS)

Wide Receiver
9. Ward (returning)
10. Holmes (returning)
11. Sweed (returning)
12. Wallace (new player)
13. McDonald (new player)

Tight End
14. Miller (returning)
15. Spaeth (returning)
16. Johnson (new player)

Center
17. Hartwig (returning)
18. Legursky (new player ...OC/OG)

Offensive Guard
19. Stapleton (returning...OC/OG )
20. Kemoeatu (returning)
21. Essex (returning...OG/OT)
22. Urbik (new player)

Offensive Tackle
23. Starks (returning)
24. Colon (returning)
25. Hills (returning)
26. Capizzi (New player)

Kicker/Punter/LS
27. Reed (returning)
28. Sepulveda (returning)
29. Warren (returning)

Defensive End
30. Smith (returning)
31. Keisel (returning)
321. Eason (returning...again, torn between Eason and Kirschke)
33. Hood (new player)

Nose Tackle
34. Hampton (returning)
35. Hoke (returning)

Linebacker
36. Harrison J. (returning)
37. Farrior (returning)
38. Woodley (returning)
39. Timmons (returning)
40. Fox (returning)
41. Frazier (returning) (Fraizer/Woods/Bailey are hard to figure out)
42. Woods (returning)
43. Davis (returning)

Cornerback
44. Taylor (returning)
45. Gay (returning)
46. Madison (returning)
47. Lewis K. (new player) -
48. Burnett (new player) -
49. Rattliff (new player)

Safety
50. Polamalu (returning)
51. Clark (returning)
52. Carter (returning)
53. Mundy (new player

Practice Squad
1. OC - Shipley
2. OG-Foster
3. RB-Summers
4. S-Richardson
5. TE-Sherrod
6. NT-Paxson
7. DE-Harris
8. QB-Reilly

Of all of the cuts...Sean McHugh was the hardest to consider.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 10:06 AM
Logan = Our Darren Sproles?!?!

that's a great comparison

BTW, no way in hell Moore is getting cut. He was our offensive MVP for like half the season last year

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 10:08 AM
Running Back
4. Parker (returning)
5. Mendenhall (returning)
6. Moore (returning)
7. Redman (new player...as a RB/FB... torn between him and Summers)
8. Logan (new player...RB/WR/RS)

since when is Redmab a FB?

replace w Summers

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-23-2009, 10:10 AM
LLT, that is pretty plausable. The only thing I see is Townsend staying over Ratliff and Davis probably remaining at FB (even though I hate it). Probably also McHugh stays and Johnson goes to the PS.

Still 2 more preseason games to go, but Logan looks like a solid KR/PR and I would love to see there be a spot for him.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 10:24 AM
LLT, that is pretty plausable. The only thing I see is Townsend staying over Ratliff and Davis probably remaining at FB (even though I hate it). Probably also McHugh stays and Johnson goes to the PS.

Still 2 more preseason games to go, but Logan looks like a solid KR/PR and I would love to see there be a spot for him.

I originally had McHugh over Johnson...but it is hard to ignore the reports that are coming out of camp. I am going to gamble on Johnson making the final 53.

Townsend is just a gut feeling...it wouldnt kill me to see him stay but if given the choice I would let him go and keep one of the younger players.

ANDYMISIU
08-23-2009, 10:50 AM
Logan makes this team for sure, IF he can repeat his ST performance in the next two preseason games.

He looked awesome last night.

Psyychoward86
08-23-2009, 10:57 AM
I buried this in an old thread but here is what I think may happen...

Quarterback
1. Roethlisberger (returning)
2. Batch (returning)
3. Dixon (returning)

Running Back
4. Parker (returning)
5. Mendenhall (returning)
6. Moore (returning)
7. Redman (new player...as a RB/FB... torn between him and Summers)
8. Logan (new player...RB/WR/RS)

Wide Receiver
9. Ward (returning)
10. Holmes (returning)
11. Sweed (returning)
12. Wallace (new player)
13. McDonald (new player)

Tight End
14. Miller (returning)
15. Spaeth (returning)
16. Johnson (new player)

Center
17. Hartwig (returning)
18. Legursky (new player ...OC/OG)

Offensive Guard
19. Stapleton (returning...OC/OG )
20. Kemoeatu (returning)
21. Essex (returning...OG/OT)
22. Urbik (new player)

Offensive Tackle
23. Starks (returning)
24. Colon (returning)
25. Hills (returning)
26. Capizzi (New player)

Kicker/Punter/LS
27. Reed (returning)
28. Sepulveda (returning)
29. Warren (returning)

Defensive End
30. Smith (returning)
31. Keisel (returning)
321. Eason (returning...again, torn between Eason and Kirschke)
33. Hood (new player)

Nose Tackle
34. Hampton (returning)
35. Hoke (returning)

Linebacker
36. Harrison J. (returning)
37. Farrior (returning)
38. Woodley (returning)
39. Timmons (returning)
40. Fox (returning)
41. Frazier (returning) (Fraizer/Woods/Bailey are hard to figure out)
42. Woods (returning)
43. Davis (returning)

Cornerback
44. Taylor (returning)
45. Gay (returning)
46. Madison (returning)
47. Lewis K. (new player) -
48. Burnett (new player) -
49. Rattliff (new player)

Safety
50. Polamalu (returning)
51. Clark (returning)
52. Carter (returning)
53. Mundy (new player

Practice Squad
1. OC - Shipley
2. OG-Foster
3. RB-Summers
4. S-Richardson
5. TE-Sherrod
6. NT-Paxson
7. DE-Harris
8. QB-Reilly

Of all of the cuts...Sean McHugh was the hardest to consider.


No Deshea?

HometownGal
08-23-2009, 11:09 AM
Townsend is just a gut feeling...it wouldnt kill me to see him stay but if given the choice I would let him go and keep one of the younger players.

I hope your gut is wrong. I like Deshea and what he brings to the squad not only on the field, but as a mentor to the youngins.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 11:12 AM
since when is Redman a FB?

replace w Summers

Redman is actually bigger than Davis...Redman is 6'0 230lbs...Davis is 5'10 225 lbs.
Davis is actually listed as the very same size ans Mendenhall.

Pre-season reports on Redman said heplayes RB/FB/and H-back...

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=86209&draftyear=2009&genpos=RB

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 11:16 AM
I hope your gut is wrong. I like Deshea and what he brings to the squad not only on the field, but as a mentor to the youngins.

I like Deshea better as a backup then I did as a starter...but I think outside the starters in Taylor and Gay... Ratliff has better instincts than Deshea... the two newbies may not be placed at risk on the practice squad...and Madison is our best Special teamer...sooooooooo?

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 11:18 AM
Redman is actually bigger than Davis...Redman is 6'0 230lbs...Davis is 5'10 225 lbs.
Davis is actually listed as the very same size ans Mendenhall.

Pre-season reports on Redman said heplayes RB/FB/and H-back...

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=86209&draftyear=2009&genpos=RB

but has he played FB at all in training camp or preseason?

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 11:20 AM
I like Deshea better as a backup then I did as a starter...but I think outside the starters in Taylor and Gay... Ratliff has better instincts than Deshea... the two newbies may not be placed at risk on the practice squad...and Madison is our best Special teamer...sooooooooo?

we cut Madison, he cant play D just special teams. We have other good special team playes

Townsend is clutch period and even though he is old can still be a good nickle back

Ratliff looks good and was brought here because Tomlin wanted him like last year with M. Moore. So he is a 'Tomlin guy' and has looked good

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 11:26 AM
but has he played FB at all in training camp or preseason?

Yes...he was lined up as a FB with Mendenhall in the backfield earlier in camp. Also has been effective blocking in a couple of sweeps.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 11:32 AM
we cut Madison, he cant play D just special teams. We have other good special team playes

Townsend is clutch period and even though he is old can still be a good nickle back

Ratliff looks good and was brought here because Tomlin wanted him like last year with M. Moore. So he is a 'Tomlin guy' and has looked good

Like I said... It wouldnt kill me to keep Townsend...but I wouldnt keep him over a solid Special teamer....We should have learned a lesson about ST value when we cut Chidi Iwuoma and Sean Morey and our special teams suffered drastically.

Preacher
08-23-2009, 11:41 AM
Like I said... It wouldnt kill me to keep Townsend...but I wouldnt keep him over a solid Special teamer....We should have learned a lesson about ST value when we cut Chidi Iwuoma and Sean Morey and our special teams suffered drastically.


true. But the real question is, do we have more depth at the CB position, or more depth in ST's players? I think we need to keep Townsend at least another year just to help bring along these young players and play spot duty. Furthermore, if someone gets hurt, I still trust Townsend as CB... as long as he isn't on an island.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 11:54 AM
true. But the real question is, do we have more depth at the CB position, or more depth in ST's players? I think we need to keep Townsend at least another year just to help bring along these young players and play spot duty. Furthermore, if someone gets hurt, I still trust Townsend as CB... as long as he isn't on an island.

I think thats where Ratliff factors in...he would be the extra Db in the nickel...and between Taylor, Gay, and Ratliff...the young players should have enough veteran leadership to come along nicely.

Hey...I may be wrong...but we signed Ratliff and drafted two CB's for a reason.

Texasteel
08-23-2009, 12:03 PM
but has he played FB at all in training camp or preseason?

With the injury problems we had last year the coach may have just wanted to see what they have in Redman. Its hard to tell want they have in their mind, but we should have a better idea in a week or two.

Redman did come into TC as more of an unknown as Summers.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 12:24 PM
What I like best about Logan is he maximizes his returns meaning he gets the most out of whats there and also he doesn't do all that side-to-side crap like Randel El used to do. Logan runs straight up-field and makes some smart cuts

This is the guy we've been searching for for years

I give this thread 2 thumbs up :thumbsup:

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 12:35 PM
What I like best about Logan is he maximizes his returns meaning he gets the most out of whats there and also he doesn't do all that side-to-side crap like Randel El used to do. Logan runs straight up-field and makes some smart cuts

This is the guy we've been searching for for years

I give this thread 2 thumbs up :thumbsup:

Teams are going to have the same problem with Logan that teams have with Sproles from the Chargers....you cant see him behind the other players!!

MACH1
08-23-2009, 01:26 PM
I think this kid making the roster is pretty much a lock. :thumbsup:

Another game like last night and its a done deal. Imagine if we had a returner like that last year.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 01:32 PM
Another game like last night and its a done deal. Imagine if we had a returner like that last year.

Imagine if we had a returner like that in 2006. We seriously would have been 11-5 or 12-4 instead of 8-8.

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-23-2009, 01:36 PM
Lambert, I don't see how the team will keep 5 RBs and 0 FBs. That doesn't really make sense.

SteelersHoss
08-23-2009, 04:03 PM
It's funny, I asked Craig Wofley in June about Logan, he didn't know who he was. I am assuming he does now. I have watched this kid in the CFL, he is good. If he gets cut, it's not because he doesn't have talent, it is because the NFL has a certain look that they think their players need to have.

stillers4me
08-23-2009, 04:06 PM
It's funny, I asked Craig Wofley in June about Logan, he didn't know who he was. I am assuming he does now. I have watched this kid in the CFL, he is good. If he gets cut, it's not because he doesn't have talent, it is because the NFL has a certain look that they think their players need to have.

And what do you mean by that?

SteelersHoss
08-23-2009, 04:08 PM
And what do you mean by that?

If your asking about the look. It is about being big, tall, weight, the complete package that scouts usually drool over. It happens all the time.

stillers4me
08-23-2009, 04:20 PM
If your asking about the look. It is about being big, tall, weight, the complete package that scouts usually drool over. It happens all the time.

We've all seem scouts drool over guys that go nowhere.

mmalone
08-23-2009, 04:26 PM
Lambert, I don't see how the team will keep 5 RBs and 0 FBs. That doesn't really make sense.

Summers is the only FB over 245lbs....

the rest of the running backs and FB Davis are 230 and under.....

Mendenhall can do what Davis does also... they are the same size.

So if you go with size, blocking and running which we have not seen yet...

i would say summers gets the FB job... he has the beef...

tony hipchest
08-23-2009, 04:34 PM
And what do you mean by that?
not being knee high to a grasshopper. :chuckle:

SteelersHoss
08-23-2009, 04:38 PM
We've all seem scouts drool over guys that go nowhere.

Exactly, Sports Teams, usually stick with the guys that they have a certain stock in. Logan, was brought in without much fanfare. A few of the guys that the Steelers drafted are all that most people were talking about. There was not even a mention of Logan, and then all of a sudden he has a good game, many fans are now on his bandwagon. All I was trying to say, that usually guys like Logan, don't get a sniff of opportunity because of what his size is.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 04:40 PM
Lambert, I don't see how the team will keep 5 RBs and 0 FBs. That doesn't really make sense.

Already explained it...Summers and Redman both have (and can) play FB...also if we keep McHugh as our third TE instead of Johnson...he ALSO can play FB.

Redman is actually bigger than Davis.

GodofGridiron
08-23-2009, 04:59 PM
Exactly, Sports Teams, usually stick with the guys that they have a certain stock in. Logan, was brought in without much fanfare. A few of the guys that the Steelers drafted are all that most people were talking about. There was not even a mention of Logan, and then all of a sudden he has a good game, many fans are now on his bandwagon. All I was trying to say, that usually guys like Logan, don't get a sniff of opportunity because of what his size is.

...and therein lies the reason women think us men are simpleminded. Everything important relates to size.........lol

Milkman
08-23-2009, 05:19 PM
Logan gave me a boner after every return tonight. So did Sepulveda.

lolz

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-23-2009, 06:18 PM
Already explained it...Summers and Redman both have (and can) play FB...also if we keep McHugh as our third TE instead of Johnson...he ALSO can play FB.

Redman is actually bigger than Davis.

Well yes, if you had McHugh making the roster, then that would make more sense. But you don't, so I'm confused. And Redman hasn't gotten any action at FB in the preseason at all, so I don't see how he could become the starter at FB.

NV STEELERS 723
08-23-2009, 06:21 PM
I think this kid making the roster is pretty much a lock. :thumbsup:

I agree !:drink:

mmalone
08-23-2009, 06:22 PM
Well yes, if you had McHugh making the roster, then that would make more sense. But you don't, so I'm confused. And Redman hasn't gotten any action at FB in the preseason at all, so I don't see how he could become the starter at FB.

summers vs davis

redman vs vincent

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-23-2009, 06:27 PM
Well yes, if you had McHugh making the roster, then that would make more sense. But you don't, so I'm confused. And Redman hasn't gotten any action at FB in the preseason at all, so I don't see how he could become the starter at FB.

All this has already been discussed. But here we go again.

Redman HAS played a little FB in the post season...and those of us who were discussing the final roster came to an agreement that McHugh will probably make the roster over Johnson. So yes, that has changed from the original roster.

rich4eagle
08-23-2009, 06:32 PM
... this guy looks like the return specialist we've been looking for, since..... as far back as I can remember!

he looked very good.......is there staing power .....hmmm not easily viewed:tt03:

mmalone
08-23-2009, 09:09 PM
All this has already been discussed. But here we go again.

Redman HAS played a little FB in the post season...and those of us who were discussing the final roster came to an agreement that McHugh will probably make the roster over Johnson. So yes, that has changed from the original roster.

hopefully they pick all the big blockers instead.....

dirk johnson over mchugh TE
frank summers over davis FB
readman over vincent RB

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-23-2009, 11:31 PM
I think we probably see RB's as Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, (Davis as FB) and the final spot is between Redman and Summers.

Logan stays as a return specialist and the TE's are Miller, Spaeth, McHugh with Johnson going to the PS.

Steel Head
08-23-2009, 11:36 PM
I think we probably see RB's as Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, (Davis as FB) and the final spot is between Redman and Summers.

Logan stays as a return specialist and the TE's are Miller, Spaeth, McHugh with Johnson going to the PS.

This is the most likely scenario. Whoever is cut out of Summers and Redman also lands on practice squad

Logan stays as return specialist and they also cut Burnett (practice squad) because they are crowded at corner back

I read great things about Johnson but haven't noticed him much in the games

X-Terminator
08-24-2009, 12:08 AM
UFN the Tool? Who is that?

If you really have to ask, you haven't been paying attention. Or at least weren't around for his "Moore is better than Parker and should be starting" arguments from last season. Or his proclamation that the Steelers wouldn't win the SB with Parker as the starter.

Funny one, that UFN the Tool...

UltimateFootballNetwork
08-24-2009, 12:18 AM
If you really have to ask, you haven't been paying attention. Or at least weren't around for his "Moore is better than Parker and should be starting" arguments from last season. Or his proclamation that the Steelers wouldn't win the SB with Parker as the starter.

Funny one, that UFN the Tool... If you are going to be insulting, it would be appropriate to at least represent my positions accurately. You were close, but I said none of those things.

I take it as a complement that you are talking about me in random threads, you know what they say about leaving an impression. Don't expect me to care enough to return the favor.

X-Terminator
08-24-2009, 12:35 AM
If you are going to be insulting, it would be appropriate to at least represent my positions accurately. You were close, but I said none of those things.

I take it as a complement that you are talking about me in random threads, you know what they say about leaving an impression. Don't expect me to care enough to return the favor.

But you just did, so obviously you DO care.

You didn't say that Moore should be starting over Parker? Or that the Steelers wouldn't win the Super Bowl with Parker as the starter? Really? All one needs to do is read this thread (http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=30052&highlight=parker+starter+super+bowl) to know that you are full of shyt on both accounts. If you didn't want your own words to come back and bite you in your Redskins-loving ass, not saying them at all would have been a good start.

You earned the nickname, Mr. Tool. Love it, and live with it.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-24-2009, 01:06 AM
This is the most likely scenario. Whoever is cut out of Summers and Redman also lands on practice squad

Logan stays as return specialist and they also cut Burnett (practice squad) because they are crowded at corner back

I read great things about Johnson but haven't noticed him much in the games

I dont think Burnett or Keenan Lewis get cut. Remember, the Steelers kept 7 D linemen last year and they normally only keep 6. They also kept 10 O linemen and its entirely possible they only keep 9.

Could be lots of ways to keep a return specialist on the roster without having to expose a promising player like Burnett who could make many other teams 53 man roster.

O Sensei
08-24-2009, 01:12 AM
This kid is like lightning in a bottle.....I was intrigued when they picked him up and pleasantly surprised to see how effective he was. Though I seriously, seriously doubt Moore is going anywhere....I'd be stunned if he isn't suited up against TN in the opener. I'm not gonna label him as Sproles, or start listing probable backs on the roster based on his performance, just know he'll make the squad...if just as a specialist.....and he ALREADY looks better than Randle El ever did IMO.

zola
08-24-2009, 01:18 AM
He was great fun to watch last year here for BC Lions (CFL). Sure glad he got his chance last game. Can't wait till next game.

“Joystick,” the nickname Lions players bestowed on Logan last season, has a habit of getting upfield so fast that he’s gone before it registers. “There are times when you don’t even have to block for him,” Lions left tackle Rob Murphy said in November. “They can’t catch him. He’s special.”

OneForTheToe
08-24-2009, 01:23 AM
I dont think Burnett or Keenan Lewis get cut. Remember, the Steelers kept 7 D linemen last year and they normally only keep 6. They also kept 10 O linemen and its entirely possible they only keep 9.

Could be lots of ways to keep a return specialist on the roster without having to expose a promising player like Burnett who could make many other teams 53 man roster.

I think you are correct on both accounts. I especially think the possibility of only 9 o'linemen is high. There will only likely be 8 active on game day, so the 9th lineman isn't anymore help to the team on game day than a lineman from the PS. Obviously, the PS players can be picked up by other teams, but I don't think we are likely sending any linemen to the PS that would be an extremely high commodity. Remember, also, if you carp another teams PS player you have to sign that player to your roster - not you PS. Besides, if necessary, we can replace any of the linemen carped from our PS with rejects from other teams as well.

Keeping only nine o'linemen would open up a spot for Logan who can help this team today. How many times have we heard head coaches say, " .... best 53 players?"

AllD
08-24-2009, 07:13 AM
IF Logan keeps performing he will have a roster spot. Not counting field position and points, he will make watching the game more entertaining which translates to better ratings. Lots of reasons why a player gets a spot.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-24-2009, 07:23 AM
I think we probably see RB's as Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, (Davis as FB) and the final spot is between Redman and Summers.

Logan stays as a return specialist and the TE's are Miller, Spaeth, McHugh with Johnson going to the PS.

If they keep Logan as a RS...I think we will keep Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Redman, and Summers as the FB. I think Davis is gone.

OneForTheToe
08-24-2009, 10:53 AM
Not necessarily. I never knew it but according to what I saw on Hard Knocks with the Cowboys TC , when you cut a player they can be signed to any teams PS during that initial period. They cut a RB and he turned down more money from the Eagles PS to stay on Cowboys PS.

So yes, once they are on your squad they must be signed to the active roster of another team, but during the waiver period another team could sign them to their PS instead of the active roster.

That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that, Still, I don't think any O'linemen sent towards our PS are going to be irreplaceable.

Signal1hundred
08-24-2009, 11:44 AM
I saw this guy in training camp on Thursday. He looked very thuggish with his gold teeth and saggy pants. Then he started dropping a lot of passes when running routes out of the backfield, so I figured he'd be the first guy cut from the roster. His return skills looked pretty decent, but I had no idea that he'd be as electrifying as he was in the game.

Now I can't wait to see him next week!

HometownGal
08-24-2009, 03:23 PM
If they keep Logan as a RS...I think we will keep Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Redman, and Summers as the FB. I think Davis is gone.

I agree, LLT. I think Davis is outta here, but who knows? :noidea:

MasterOfPuppets
08-24-2009, 03:30 PM
here's a blogger throwing out a few senereo's....

http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/2009/08/could-stefan-logan-still-make-roster/
As I mentioned in my top 10 things to watch pre game analysis of the Washington Redskins game, Stefan Logan needed to impress last night to have any shot of making the roster. The human joystick did just that. Logan was blistering on kickoff returns and showed good hands and vision on the punt returns. Couple that with the fumble by rookie cornerback Joe Burnett on his one return attempt and Logan has securely placed himself just inside the bubble wall. Logan is officially listed as a wide receiver, but can play at running back if needed. The one drawback on Logan is that he likely could not make much of an impact on kick the coverage unit. His return abilities may be just enough though.

The Steelers were first specualed at keeping 4 running backs and one fullback on the roster, but depending on the the health of running back Mewelde Moore, they very well could only carry three running backs and one fullback. The wildcards: rookie running back Isaac Redman and rookie fullback Frank Summers could be risked to pass waivers to be signed to the practice squad, leaving Moore, Willie Parker Rashard Mendenhall and Carey Davis as the lone backfield core on the roster.

Another scenario would be to carry one less linebacker, meaning neither Patrick Bailey or Bruce Davis make the roster. This would enable the Steelers to keep either Summers or Redman in addition to Logan and relegate the other to the practice squad. The last scenario would be to go with one less cornerback, meaning that the rookie Burnett might be a final cut and signed to the practice squad.

The best thing right now, is that two pre season games remain and the final cuts are a long ways off still. Logan likely has earned at least another look in the final two games and could also be showcased to see what trade offers might be available as well. This is an unlikely scenario, but the Steelers themselves traded for return specialist Allen Rossum just prior to the 2007 season, so it remains a possibility. With the start of the season still three full weeks away, these things usually work themselves out naturally, but rest assured Logan opened up some eyes and kept his NFL dreams alive on Saturday night in Washington.i'd cut davis...:popcorn:

SteelersHoss
08-24-2009, 03:54 PM
I think that there have been some people on here saying that you cannot just have a player that is one dimensional, or just have one job to do. Correct me if I am wrong, and please do so, but when they brought Rossum in, didn't he just return kicks?

Tankus_Maximus
08-24-2009, 04:02 PM
I agree, this kid is a stud!

ricksteelers55
08-24-2009, 04:10 PM
I dont think that there is any chances that a guy like Redman would be claim by another team unless it's for their practice squad.

With players like Deuce McAllister and Edgerin James still on the board that can do short yardage,I dont think that Redman has that much value.

sharkweek
08-24-2009, 04:26 PM
I dunno, this league is a business, and as a business money is a huge factor. Teams desperate for running back help might not be desperate enough to pay for older washouts and might actual prefer gambling on a cheaper unknown.

SteelerFanInCA
08-24-2009, 04:40 PM
He looked good but it's going to take more than one good game before I'm sold on him.

Preacher
08-24-2009, 04:45 PM
If they keep Logan as a RS...I think we will keep Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Redman, and Summers as the FB. I think Davis is gone.

Not from what I saw in my two breakdowns. Davis hasn't missed a block. I'd be less upset if they cut Starks than Davis. Matter of fact, Davis is right up there with Leg and Colon and Kemo as the most consistent blockers for this team. Play by play. To me, it would be foolish to cut the guy.

But all in all, depending on what he does in other games, we HAVE TO find a spot for Logan. which means SOMEONE gets cut. Stapleton????? Legur. and Essex are doing VERY well. Shipley and Urbik are in the wings. Do we lose Stapleton??

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-24-2009, 04:55 PM
Not from what I saw in my two breakdowns. Davis hasn't missed a block. I'd be less upset if they cut Starks than Davis. Matter of fact, Davis is right up there with Leg and Colon and Kemo as the most consistent blockers for this team. Play by play. To me, it would be foolish to cut the guy.

But all in all, depending on what he does in other games, we HAVE TO find a spot for Logan. which means SOMEONE gets cut. Stapleton????? Legur. and Essex are doing VERY well. Shipley and Urbik are in the wings. Do we lose Stapleton??

I think our line is too thin to cut a vet...but who knows?

pancake
08-24-2009, 05:39 PM
I think our line is too thin to cut a vet...but who knows?

I am pretty down on our OL right now, so I am not worried about any of them getting cut...

Neil-Still-Rules-14
08-24-2009, 06:17 PM
Once again, I think Moore will be the one getting the ax. With Parker (a former 1000 yard rusher), Mendenhall (a first round pick), Redman (a TD scoring machine), and Logan (an unbelievable returner), there's no room for Moore. Especially since it looks as though Mendenhall has been made the third down back.

mmalone
08-24-2009, 06:30 PM
Once again, I think Moore will be the one getting the ax. With Parker (a former 1000 yard rusher), Mendenhall (a first round pick), Redman (a TD scoring machine), and Logan (an unbelievable returner), there's no room for Moore. Especially since it looks as though Mendenhall has been made the third down back.

i could buy that if i seen them throwing lots of passes to mendenhall in the flat.
maybe this week. and of course he catches them and gains extra yards.

moore is the only hands guy out there in the RB squad... well that we have seen.

summers is suposed to have hands, we wont see him.
redman has not caught a ball.
vincent was running like crazy
parker caught one with the skins and almost made the IR

moore is in till we see mendy catch and run.

Psyychoward86
08-24-2009, 06:45 PM
Especially since it looks as though Mendenhall has been made the third down back.

:screwy:? Huh...

theplatypus
08-24-2009, 07:16 PM
Once again, I think Moore will be the one getting the ax. With Parker (a former 1000 yard rusher), Mendenhall (a first round pick), Redman (a TD scoring machine), and Logan (an unbelievable returner), there's no room for Moore. Especially since it looks as though Mendenhall has been made the third down back.

Don't think I would go calling Redman a "touchdown scoring machine" after 2 weeks of TC and 2 preseason games.

mesaSteeler
08-24-2009, 11:21 PM
Logan giant on kick returns
http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2009/08/24/sports/steelers/doc4a93617f110e1912177920.txt

Published: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:04 AM EDT
Mike Bires
Times Sports Staff

PITTSBURGH — The Steelers are seriously considering putting a “Half Pint” on the opening-day roster.

“Half Pint,” of course, would be Stefan Logan, the miniature kick return specialist with jitterbug moves and electrifying speed.

“He’s got our attention,” coach Mike Tomlin said.

Though Logan has made no impact on the passing game — he’s a fifth-string wide receiver — he was dynamic in Saturday’s 17-13 preseason loss at Washington.

Logan, whose pro resume consists of a brief stint on the Miami Dolphins’ practice squad and one season in the Canadian Football League, averaged 39.3 yards on four kickoff returns against the Redskins. Two of the returns went for 60 and 45 yards. He also averaged 12.0 yards on four punt returns.

Just 5-foot-6 and 180 pounds, Logan touched the ball eight times in his preseason debut for a total of 205 yards. That’s an average of 25.6 yards every time he touched the ball.

So impressive has Logan been during training camp, several Steelers cast bets on him before the opening kickoff at FedEx Field.

“We were making bets on when he was going to take one to the house,” running back Willie Parker said. “He’s amazing.”

Logan was so impressive against the Redskins that some say the Steelers would be foolish not to keep him. It would be hard to argue against that considering the Steelers ranked 29th in kickoff returns and tied for 31st in punt returns last year.

On kickoff returns last year, the Steelers primarily used running backs, some of them big backs, with marginal success. Gary Russell, who’s no longer with the team, returned 16 kicks. Najeh Davenport, also an ex-Steeler, returned 10 kicks as did Mewelde Moore, who remains the third-down back.

Wide receiver Santonio Holmes dazzled by returning a punt 67 yards for a touchdown in a playoff win over San Diego but he only averaged 6.6 yards on 34 returns during the regular season. By comparison, Buffalo’s Roscoe Parrish led the NFL at 15.3 ypr.

“(Last week) I told my friends that it was my turn (to return) against the Redskins, so I knew they’d be watching,” said Logan, nicknamed “Half Pint” by his Pittsburgh teammates. “Everybody was calling me and texting me and saying, ‘I know when you get the ball, you’re going to make something happen’ and ‘That you’re going to make this team because you’ve worked so hard.’”

That said, Logan will still have to perform well in at least one of the last two preseason games if he’s to earn a spot on the 53-man roster.

Wide receiver Mike Wallace, a rookie speedster, handled kickoffs in the first preseason game while rookie cornerback Joe Burnett handled punt returns. Burnett returned one punt against the Redskins, but fumbled it away.

Tomlin hasn’t yet decided who will return kicks Saturday against the Bills at Heinz Field. But Logan figures to get at least one more chance, either this week or Sept. 3 against Carolina, to prove he deserves a roster spot.

“It’s pretty obvious that he did a nice job,” Tomlin said of Logan’s performance against the Redskins. “But he’s got an incomplete body of work. We’re just two games into a four-game preseason.”

“I’m sure I’m going to get another shot at it,” said Logan, 28. “I’ll do whatever I can to take one to the house. I want to show these guys I can get it done.”

MasterOfPuppets
08-25-2009, 12:14 AM
i'm assumming the only competition he has is wallace... why not just alternate between the 2 on an every other basis and see what happens....:noidea:

Preacher
08-25-2009, 12:39 AM
i'm assumming the only competition he has is wallace... why not just alternate between the 2 on an every other basis and see what happens....:noidea:

I say, we play strong defense for the first few series... then let the other team score about 8 times in the second half of the preseason game... just to see what these guys can do. After all, we don't care about the score...!!

(I know I know... not plausible. But I STILL want to see what this kid can do.)

MasterOfPuppets
08-25-2009, 12:48 AM
I say, we play strong defense for the first few series... then let the other team score about 8 times in the second half of the preseason game... just to see what these guys can do. After all, we don't care about the score...!!

(I know I know... not plausible. But I STILL want to see what this kid can do.)
it kinda sucks that logan is competing with "one foot tied behind his back" so to speak.
i mean he doesn't just need to outperform wallace, but he probably needs to be head and shoulders above since he'd be taking a roster spot just for ST's only. i'm sure they'd rather see wallace win it and get a two for one deal. did he even get in the game at wr ? i'd like to see him run a reverse.

mmalone
08-25-2009, 04:33 AM
it kinda sucks that logan is competing with "one foot tied behind his back" so to speak.
i mean he doesn't just need to outperform wallace, but he probably needs to be head and shoulders above since he'd be taking a roster spot just for ST's only. i'm sure they'd rather see wallace win it and get a two for one deal. did he even get in the game at wr ? i'd like to see him run a reverse.

all week on this board he was a RB, summers and redman are done...
now he is a WR... we have the WR, 5 of them and their all good.

wallace, mcdonald, sweed and the regular starters.

logan is a freak of nature, let him play. make a special spot.

cut the losers.... the guys we have been waiting for two to three years....
baker, nance, wiiliams, hills, madison, davis, russell, (johnson vs spaeth-mchugh), vincent, etc ...... they had ample time to make the team.

lets move on. get the new blood thats hungry.

Preacher
08-25-2009, 05:04 AM
it kinda sucks that logan is competing with "one foot tied behind his back" so to speak.
i mean he doesn't just need to outperform wallace, but he probably needs to be head and shoulders above since he'd be taking a roster spot just for ST's only. i'm sure they'd rather see wallace win it and get a two for one deal. did he even get in the game at wr ? i'd like to see him run a reverse.

Could the other team even SEE him running? :laughing:

Texasteel
08-25-2009, 06:41 AM
it kinda sucks that logan is competing with "one foot tied behind his back" so to speak.
i mean he doesn't just need to outperform wallace, but he probably needs to be head and shoulders above since he'd be taking a roster spot just for ST's only. i'm sure they'd rather see wallace win it and get a two for one deal. did he even get in the game at wr ? i'd like to see him run a reverse.

Can you imagine what Ben could do starting near the 50 yard line again and again. Can you imagine what our defence could do with the other team starting deep in their own end time after time. Unless Wallace shows the same type of returns I think they will find a place for Logan.

Steel Head
08-25-2009, 07:14 AM
i'm assumming the only competition he has is wallace... why not just alternate between the 2 on an every other basis and see what happens....:noidea:

Wallace only returns kickoffs not punts

I seriously don't get why people think we can't make a roster spot for Logan as a return man. It is actually quite common around the league and even Tomlin did it himself when he traded for Rossum his first year coaching

HometownGal
08-25-2009, 07:18 AM
cut the losers.... the guys we have been waiting for two to three years....
baker, nance, wiiliams, hills, madison, davis, russell, (johnson vs spaeth-mchugh), vincent, etc ...... they had ample time to make the team.



I agree, other than Madison and possibly Hills. Dallas Baker was pretty much a bench warmer last season and the others are replaceable. Time to cut the dead wood and give the tree the opportunity to grow with fresh new limbs.

mmalone
08-25-2009, 08:27 AM
If Mendenhall doesn't do something this year, he needs cut next season too. Too many decent RBs in this league to hold on to a guy just because you thought he would be good.

Guy looks like crap to me so far.

he will show up.. he is strong and is hanging onto the ball. we need to get him more touches. this is like the second half of his first year...

i say let him run.... we need to pass to him more also and see the hands he is supposed to have... if he can catch like moore. then moore may be gone sooner.

OneForTheToe
08-25-2009, 12:36 PM
all week on this board he was a RB, summers and redman are done...
now he is a WR... we have the WR, 5 of them and their all good.

wallace, mcdonald, sweed and the regular starters.

logan is a freak of nature, let him play. make a special spot.

cut the losers.... the guys we have been waiting for two to three years....
baker, nance, wiiliams, hills, madison, davis, russell, (johnson vs spaeth-mchugh), vincent, etc ...... they had ample time to make the team.

lets move on. get the new blood thats hungry.

I agree the Steelers may have to clear some room for some of the new guys who have performed well this year. On the other hand, we have had more success than most teams bring along projects who eventually contribute. Sure there are a lot the never do. See, Walter Young and Shaun Nua, among many others. But, lets not forget how many years they waited for Nate Washington and James Harrison.

On your list I'd keep Hills because he seems to have improved a little over last season. I think Johnson is PS so that leaves McHugh and Speath. Nance has only been on the team since last season, so if he was eligible for the PS I might give him another year. I would cut Davis, but I'm not sure the Steelers will. Did you mean Gary Russell? I believe he is already gone. The rest probably need to go.

mmalone
08-25-2009, 12:41 PM
I agree the Steelers may have to clear some room for some of the new guys who have performed well this year. On the other hand, we have had more success than most teams bring along projects who eventually contribute. Sure there are a lot the never do. See, Walter Young and Shaun Nua, among many others. But, lets not forget how many years they waited for Nate Washington and James Harrison.

On your list I'd keep Hills because he seems to have improved a little over last season. I think Johnson is PS so that leaves McHugh and Speath. Nance has only been on the team since last season, so if he was eligible for the PS I might give him another year. I would cut Davis, but I'm not sure the Steelers will. Did you mean Gary Russell? I believe he is already gone. The rest probably need to go.

russell i listed because he is gone, and he did get his chances.....

the te's are my question... which of the three are the better blockers. i feel we need to keep the best TE blockers out there. everyone says our OL is bad at it. so i guess they need all the help they can get blocking.

OneForTheToe
08-25-2009, 12:45 PM
russell i listed because he is gone, and he did get his chances.....

the te's are my question... which of the three are the better blockers. i feel we need to keep the best TE blockers out there. everyone says our OL is bad at it. so i guess they need all the help they can get blocking.


I think they keep McHugh because he is the better blocker and Speath because he is the better receiver. I would think there is a good chance that Johnson would clear waivers to make it to the PS. I don't think there are that many teams looking for blocking TEs.

Steelboy84
08-25-2009, 01:05 PM
barring a complete collapse/fumbling in the next 2 games, this guy better be returning kickoffs week 1 vs the titans

he was superb tonight

Yes, I agree. This dude has speed out of this world. Yet another weapon in our arsenal.

mesaSteeler
08-25-2009, 08:12 PM
Stefan Logan Has a History of Big Plays

Posted Aug 25, 2009 12:54PM By JJ Cooper (RSS feed)
(See link for videos of Logan in action. - mesa)
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/08/25/stefan-logan-has-a-history-of-big-plays/

For a Steelers fan base that has too many memories of Ricardo Colclough, Najeh Davenport, Gary Russell, Allen Rossum and Willie Reid botching returns, Stefan Logan's 205 yards in returns on Saturday proved to be the highlight of the night. For a team that ranked 29th in the league in kick returns and 31st in punt returns last year, Logan looked, at least for one night, to be the kind of game-changing returner that Pittsburgh hasn't had since Antwaan Randle-El left to go to Washington.It wouldn't be that unusual for the the Steelers to carry a dedicated returner--they spent a seventh-round pick to acquire the ineffective Rossum in 2007, but Logan has not gotten one snap at running back or wide receiver in a preseason game so he doesn't really have another role--his chances of making the roster live or die with his return ability.

Logan was the Division II University of South Dakota's all-time leading rusher, he set an NCA record with 185 rushing yards in one quarter and he led the Canadian Football League in kick returns last year. So "the Joystick" hasn't come completely out of nowhere. And while the Steelers' beat writers weren't very complimentary about Logan's chances before Saturday night, apparently the rest of the team thought he had a chance to be something special.

"We were making bets on when he was going to take one to the house," running back Willie Parker said. "He's amazing."

Dagger over at Post Game Heroes makes the point that Logan's success on Saturday wasn't just a case of good blocking--he showed the ability to make people miss.

Psyychoward86
08-25-2009, 09:02 PM
Stefan Logan Has a History of Big Plays

Posted Aug 25, 2009 12:54PM By JJ Cooper (RSS feed)
(See link for videos of Logan in action. - mesa)
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/08/25/stefan-logan-has-a-history-of-big-plays/

For a Steelers fan base that has too many memories of Ricardo Colclough, Najeh Davenport, Gary Russell, Allen Rossum and Willie Reid botching returns, Stefan Logan's 205 yards in returns on Saturday proved to be the highlight of the night. For a team that ranked 29th in the league in kick returns and 31st in punt returns last year, Logan looked, at least for one night, to be the kind of game-changing returner that Pittsburgh hasn't had since Antwaan Randle-El left to go to Washington.It wouldn't be that unusual for the the Steelers to carry a dedicated returner--they spent a seventh-round pick to acquire the ineffective Rossum in 2007, but Logan has not gotten one snap at running back or wide receiver in a preseason game so he doesn't really have another role--his chances of making the roster live or die with his return ability.

Logan was the Division II University of South Dakota's all-time leading rusher, he set an NCA record with 185 rushing yards in one quarter and he led the Canadian Football League in kick returns last year. So "the Joystick" hasn't come completely out of nowhere. And while the Steelers' beat writers weren't very complimentary about Logan's chances before Saturday night, apparently the rest of the team thought he had a chance to be something special.

"We were making bets on when he was going to take one to the house," running back Willie Parker said. "He's amazing."

Dagger over at Post Game Heroes makes the point that Logan's success on Saturday wasn't just a case of good blocking--he showed the ability to make people miss.

And we really need him to do that. Our blocking on KR/PR's are pretty bad too. It's never been just because of the returner.