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truesteelerfan
09-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Thought it would be an interesting question for this forum here. Lots of Willie haters, lots of people not yet sold on Mendy. So with FWP not being yet offered a contract past this year, what kind of a season (yards, TD, etc) would you need to see out of Mendy to make you comfortable NOT offering a contract to Parker. (Of course if Parker misses a lot of games hurt, all bets are off):tt02:

UltimateFootballNetwork
09-01-2009, 11:48 PM
Thought it would be an interesting question for this forum here. Lots of Willie haters, lots of people not yet sold on Mendy. So with FWP not being yet offered a contract past this year, what kind of a season (yards, TD, etc) would you need to see out of Mendy to make you comfortable NOT offering a contract to Parker. (Of course if Parker misses a lot of games hurt, all bets are off):tt02:

Did it ever occur to you that there are lots of RBs in the world that aren't Parker or Mendenhall? It doesn't have to be either-or.

RBs are cheap in free agency and late round draft picks can contribute.

steelreserve
09-02-2009, 02:18 AM
What will it take for me to be comfortable letting Parker go?

1. The earth does not crash into the sun.


that's all I can think of.

X-Terminator
09-02-2009, 03:55 AM
This thread should be fun... :popcorn:

OX1947
09-02-2009, 04:06 AM
250 carries 1250 yards and 10 TDs

Aussie_steeler
09-02-2009, 05:05 AM
Did it ever occur to you that there are lots of RBs in the world that aren't Parker or Mendenhall? It doesn't have to be either-or.
RBs are cheap in free agency and late round draft picks can contribute.

It certainly didnt. Thanks for the advice:thumbsup:

If that is the case then then why dont we cut both and sign two of these guys who are available.


Free Agent Running Backs
Warrick Dunn Shaun Alexander Deuce McAllister Ahman Green DeShaun Foster Selvin Young Kenny Watson T.J. Duckett Najeh Davenport Rudi Johnson or Michael Pittman

Signed with the UFL recently
Tatum Bell ,Chris Perry ,Reuben Droughns, Aaron Stecker ,LaBrandon Toefield ,Brian Calhoun or Maurice Hicks

http://profootball.scout.com/2/892727.html


Imagine the cap space we would save plus the upgrade we would have over both.
And I almost forgot, Mewelde could start whilst they learnt the play book.

Greetings:wave:
Aussie_sarcasm

Steelers & I
09-02-2009, 05:25 AM
I think that if Mendenhall stays healthy this season, he'll be deemed the Steelers future RB thus allowing Willie Parker to test the free agent market. I don't have a problem with either of them, I've never hated on Willie and I have confidence that Rashard can fill in nicely.

HometownGal
09-02-2009, 06:30 AM
I feel both can be good contributors to the O if they can BOTH stay healthy, but for me to choose Mendy over FWP at this point, he'd have to have pretty close to a 1,000 yard season and double digit TD's.

Galax Steeler
09-02-2009, 06:39 AM
I feel both can be good contributors to the O if they can BOTH stay healthy, but for me to choose Mendy over FWP at this point, he'd have to have pretty close to a 1,000 yard season and double digit TD's.

That is about the same here Mendenhall will have to have a good season but I don't know if he will knock off a 1000 yards sharing carries with Parker.

wootawnee
09-02-2009, 09:28 AM
I can't wait to see them both run this season........Were not about fighting for the spot, we need 2 main guys.......Mendy is 22 and Willie is gettin up there so they will have to share carries more and more. WIllie won't be able to handle 300 plus carries anymore if he wants to extend his career which he will do.........Plus WIllie was hurt most of the year last year,coming off a broken leg the end of the season before......He will be ready to go 110%......He got healthy the last few games last year........Mendy gotta get his rythem going and all he needs is carries to progress......He still has alot to prove.....Hope he does so he can have a great career.......Melwede got a spot for his roles......He was great last year when he came off the bench........I think he is the most advanced runner we got......He does well in all phases of the game......I can't wait to see kcickoff next thursday......8 MORE DAYS!!!!

Nadroj 20
09-02-2009, 09:36 AM
With this being parker's contract year i see a nice season from him....overall i want to see parker stay

The_WARDen
09-02-2009, 10:15 AM
I think if Mendenhall proves that he can be a productive healthy back, then that's enough to send Parker packing.

scsteeler
09-02-2009, 10:51 AM
I say we get rid of both Parker And Mendy and try to talk Chicago into giving us Adrian Peterson. Just think of the possibilities. I mean so what if Parker has proven to be a good back for us and Mendy seems to have a lot of potential no team needs two good running backs anyway.

vasteeler
09-02-2009, 10:57 AM
:doh: i didnt realize chicago had an Adrian Peterson too :flap:

scsteeler
09-02-2009, 11:04 AM
:doh: i didnt realize chicago had an Adrian Peterson too :flap:

Most of my comments were sarcasm but yes Chicago does have an Adrian Peterson on their team a running back was in the league a year before the one for the vikings I beleive.

Nadroj 20
09-02-2009, 11:50 AM
I think if Mendenhall proves that he can be a productive healthy back, then that's enough to send Parker packing.

Why?? Parker cant be productive? you cant use the injury excuse because mendy missed all of last year...
since this is parkers contract year he will have a better year then mendy

PalmerSteel
09-02-2009, 11:54 AM
i love parker, but if mendy stays healthy, fixes the fumbling problem, and has at least a decent YPC Avg., then willie is gone to be overpaid by someone else.

vasteeler
09-02-2009, 01:10 PM
Most of my comments were sarcasm but yes Chicago does have an Adrian Peterson on their team a running back was in the league a year before the one for the vikings I beleive.

:doh: i stand corrected :drink:

hindes204
09-02-2009, 01:17 PM
Im still not sold on Mendy...he has alot to prove, we really havent seen him in any games that matter. i think this question should be asked again in week 8 of the regular season, we should see what both are contributing to the team by then

RoethlisBURGHer
09-02-2009, 01:27 PM
If Parker misses lots of time due to injury

Mendy would need to get at least 1200 yards and 10 TD's for me to be comfortable. He would also have to fix his fumbling.

If Parker is healthy this year

I would want to see about 600 yards and the same 10 TD's. I would take 600 yards because as long as Parker is healthy enough to start he'd get about 20 carries a game...leaving Mendenhall with about 10-12 a game, about half of what he would get as a feature back. He would still have to fix his fumbles.

I wouldn't be surprised of the Steelers offer Parker a low contract as a backup/change of pace back unless he has injury problems again this year, then I don't see any offer from the Steelers.

The_WARDen
09-02-2009, 01:32 PM
Why?? Parker cant be productive? you cant use the injury excuse because mendy missed all of last year...
since this is parkers contract year he will have a better year then mendy

Why? Cause Parker will be on the wrong side of 30 and looking for starter $$. It only makes sense to go with the younger cheaper option if he proves himself.

UltimateFootballNetwork
09-02-2009, 02:06 PM
Why? Cause Parker will be on the wrong side of 30 and looking for starter $$. It only makes sense to go with the younger cheaper option if he proves himself. There is zero chance, absolutely zero chance, that a 30 year old speed back who is arguably injury prone is going to get an offer for "starters money" from any team in the NFL, Steelers or not.

PalmerSteel
09-02-2009, 02:50 PM
There is zero chance, absolutely zero chance, that a 30 year old speed back who is arguably injury prone is going to get an offer for "starters money" from any team in the NFL, Steelers or not.

i agree he wont get top 10 RB money, but to say he wont get starters money is a stretch. i can see him being in the 22-32 top paid RB's range if he has a good year (not by us though).

The_WARDen
09-02-2009, 04:00 PM
There is zero chance, absolutely zero chance, that a 30 year old speed back who is arguably injury prone is going to get an offer for "starters money" from any team in the NFL, Steelers or not.

there's 32 starters out there and more than quite a few are marginal at best...I didn't say highest paid starter $$.

Preacher
09-02-2009, 04:55 PM
To answer the question, I think it will take a 1000 yard season 12 TD's to say he is the man!

Other than that, I am going to want to see production over a couple of years.

So my thought is that Willie gets offered a second tier contract.

Alright. Sproles makes 11 mill this year as a franchise player.

Derrick Ward, who has a 5.5 Y average and a 1000+ yard season is making about 6 mill against the cap.

others who were once decent name backs, but are on the downside of their careers, are making 2-3 mill or so.

So where does that put Willie? If he has a 1000 yard plus season, i think he gets 4-5 mill a year for a 2-3 year contract some place. that means he is gone. Unless, of course, he wants to be a Steeler. Then, I think it will settle someplace in the 4 mill a year range, since he will be phasing out over the next few years. However, I think that contract may be a 3-4 year contract, with some money front loaded and put in the middle as well, which allows the Steelers to let him go if production goes down in years 4-5 without a hit.

If he has a ok year. that means misses a few games due to injuries, or runs for about 7-9 hundred yards... I think he would sign for 3 mill or so. for 2-3 years.

So for me, it would take Mendy having an EXCELLENT Season, and Willie having a good enough season that he is priced out of our market.

otherwise, I want to see him back for at least 2 more years.

revefsreleets
09-03-2009, 11:47 AM
Nothing...the Steelers will tender Willie an offer no matter. Providing Parker has a nice season, the real question becomes will some other team offer him more than he's worth to lure him away? We already know the Steelers won't overpay him, but someone else may. There are a LOT of stupid owners in the NFL...Hell, crazy man Al Davis may offer him a 40 million contract based SOLELY on his 40 time.

Steely McSmash
09-03-2009, 12:44 PM
In preseason Mendenhall looks like he's playing flag football to me, shying away from contact.

He needs to take some hits. He needs to run some people over, get mad and hit the hole. He needs to be a physical runner. He needs to block like a load of bricks, show some fire.
:tt03::tt03::tt03:

I don't want to see the back stopping in the backfield cause he doesn't like the looks of the D-line, try to bust outside and get tackled for a 2 yard loss.

I think he has the physical tools to do well if he can get his head screwed on straight. The way the coaches are babying him in the media, I'm not sure what to think.

He could be a much more complete back compared to Parker as he seems to be a quite good receiver out of the backfield. Parker's hands are not so hot.

BlastFurnace
09-03-2009, 12:49 PM
Even if Mendenhall looks great this year, we are going to need a complimentary back next year. It's not only how Mendenhall looks, but also what our plans for MeMo are beyond next year, how Summers/Redman, etc develop.

I don't want to see Willie go, but we may need to in order to keep some other key components to our team.

Personally, I would not sign a RB at 30+ years of age to a big contract extension.

MONTANA GRIZ
09-03-2009, 12:57 PM
Parker will be gone after this season, and I'm not sold on Mendy. He usually always goes down on first contact and honestly just looks confused out there. For example in the Bills game when he had that huge hole, saw a defender and started highstepping, what the hell is that, run his ass over!

Just not sold that Mendenhall will ever be the back we envisioned when we drafted him.