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mesaSteeler
09-12-2009, 11:56 PM
JOHN PERROTTO | Reed's time as a Steeler may be coming to an end
By JOHN PERROTTO
For The Tribune-Democrat
http://www.tribune-democrat.com/prosports/local_story_256003718.html?keyword=topstory

PITTSBURGH — Jeff Reed came through again in the Steelers’ opener.

He kicked a 33-yard field goal in overtime to give the Steelers a 13-10 victory over the Tennessee Titans at Heinz Field on Thursday night. His 32-yard field goal with 2:57 remaining in regulation enabled the Steelers to send the game into overtime.

Reed has been extremely reliable since being signed as a free agent during the 2002 season as he has made 83 percent of his field-goal attempts, connecting on 164 of 198. He kicked his ninth career game-winning field goal on Thursday, including his third in overtime, and has also made 14 straight attempts in the postseason.

However, it became more apparent this past week that Reed could be moving on after this season, his eighth with the Steelers.

He is eligible to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season and turned down what he considered a low-ball contract offer two days before the opener. The Steelers have a policy of not negotiating contracts during the season.

“I’m not mad at the organization,” Reed said. “We’re on good terms. I know what I’m capable of making (in terms of salary), and I believe I’ll eventually get what I want from someone. Now isn’t the time to talk about money, though. The season has started and that’s where all my time and energy should be spent.”

Reed figures to be attractive to many teams if he reaches free agency, though he says he is not looking that far ahead.

“I got an offer and turned it down, so move on,” Reed said.

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Looking ahead: The Steelers will get a chance to scout their next opponent, Chicago, on television tonight as the Bears visit Green Bay in NBC’s national game. All eyes will be on quarterback Jay Cutler, who will be making his Bears’ debut after being acquired from Denver in a major trade on April 2.

Bears coach Lovie Smith believes Cutler is ready to revitalize an offense that was 26th in the NFL in total yardage last season.

“He’s earned his stripes with the players in the locker room,” Smith said. “Normally, the way you do that is just come in and not say a whole lot, go to work and that’s what Jay did. He’s been super since Day 1. He’s fit in well.

“But it’s about performance, too. Guys will always give you a chance, but they need to see you in certain situations. They’ve had a chance to see Jay in every imaginable situation except for the regular season.

“When you get on the football field, you have a chance to see exactly the type of player he is, and that helps a lot, too.”

The big question is whether Cutler is surrounded by enough weapons, especially at receiver. Devin Hester has 71 receptions in three seasons and Earl Bennett, the other starting wideout, was strictly a return specialist last season as a rookie and has yet to catch a pass in the NFL.

“We don’t really worry about what anybody else is saying about our receivers or tight ends or running backs,” Cutler said. “We think we’ve got a good group. I have a lot of faith in those guys and I know that they’re very confident going into this one. As long as they go out there and do what they’re supposed to do and execute the offense, we’re not going to have any problems.”

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Changes in Green Bay: The Packers will use their new 3-4 defensive alignment in the regular season for the first time tonight, and the switch from the 4-3 has left their two middle linebackers, Nick Barnett and A.J. Hawk, with lesser roles.

Both were first-round draft picks, Barnett in 2003 and Hawk in 2006 from Ohio State.

While both will start tonight, they may not see much action beyond playing in the base defense. Hawk was giving way to Brandon Chillar, who is better in pass coverage and blitzing the quarterback, in nickel packages at the end of the preseason.

John Perrotto has been covering Pittsburgh sports for more than 20 years.

steeltheone
09-13-2009, 12:01 AM
Is what it is...We can't sign them all...And you don't break the bank for a kicker

sharkweek
09-13-2009, 12:11 AM
he'll need a monster seasons to show up on another teams' radar for the kind of money he supposedly wants, and even then we could franchise him for less

he'll have to do it playing through his injury though

Borski
09-13-2009, 12:18 AM
If any Kicker is worth it, Reed is. Don't lose him

The Lakelander
09-13-2009, 12:31 AM
The Steelers have had some pretty reliable kickers over the years ... Reed, Gary Anderson, Norm Johnson, Kris Brown.

Reed will pass Roy Gerela late this season in games played for the Steelers, into 2nd place all-time.

The guy is money.

But he doesn't reach the 5 yard line half the time he kicks off.

He'll get his if that is his ambition.

And like always the team will move on ahead. :wave:

steelreserve
09-13-2009, 12:52 AM
Since we have like $5 million in cap room that we're apparently not going to use this year, why not just say OK, Reed, we'll pay you $5 million this year and $1 million next year, so you can have your $3 million per a year and we don't f*** things up money-wise for next season.

LVSteelersfan
09-13-2009, 12:54 AM
I agree about the kickoffs. He gives the opposing team field position on the 35 yard line so much it is appalling to me. He will never get the kind of money he wants if he can't kick off into the end zone or inside the five.

MACH1
09-13-2009, 01:31 AM
I agree about the kickoffs. He gives the opposing team field position on the 35 yard line so much it is appalling to me. He will never get the kind of money he wants if he can't kick off into the end zone or inside the five.

:rofl: Your a funny guy

Mr. Automatic will get his. Whether its with the Steelers or somewhere else.

sharkweek
09-13-2009, 02:22 AM
Since we have like $5 million in cap room that we're apparently not going to use this year, why not just say OK, Reed, we'll pay you $5 million this year and $1 million next year, so you can have your $3 million per a year and we don't f*** things up money-wise for next season.

couple of reasons:

1) its too late, policy is not to negotiate during the season, you simply don't break policy or else it will haunt you in the future

2) he isn't worth $3M

3) giving him $5 now gives him less incentive to play hard this year, especially given his injury he is playing through, unless you riddle the deal with bonuses he has to earn. And even if he did have to play hard to earn $5M through bonuses for performance, it would mean NEXT season he would have less incentive to perform

4) again, the injury, why offer a huge contract to someone who could become questionable later on into the season?

5) we could most likely franchise him for less than the rumored amount he desires

6) next year might be uncapped, which means we probably won't have problems with money...

JackHammer
09-13-2009, 02:26 AM
No it may not be.......

steelreserve
09-13-2009, 02:35 AM
couple of reasons:

1) its too late, policy is not to negotiate during the season, you simply don't break policy or else it will haunt you in the future

Honestly, I don't care about our policy of not negotiating during the season. With an uncapped year coming up and $5 million in free cap space right now, it's a stupid policy and we shouldn't do it. Stubbornly sticking with it is just going to turn that $5 million into dead money. I don't care about the "Rooney Way" or whatever -- in this case, it's just straight mathematics. You want to just let a couple guys like Reed and Clark walk so we can prove some point about being smart negotiators?

2) he isn't worth $3M

6) next year might be uncapped, which means we probably won't have problems with money...

These two points mutually contradict each other.

3) giving him $5 now gives him less incentive to play hard this year, especially given his injury he is playing through, unless you riddle the deal with bonuses he has to earn. And even if he did have to play hard to earn $5M through bonuses for performance, it would mean NEXT season he would have less incentive to perform

4) again, the injury, why offer a huge contract to someone who could become questionable later on into the season?

To #3: It'll be a contract year; there's his incentive. Also, things like just being a good player, staying in the league, and trying to win a Super Bowl are pretty good incentives too. Have you ever heard of a kicker half-assing it for a season? Good, because neither have I.

To #4: What else are we going to use the money for? We don't give it to a player, it's just dead money.

5) we could most likely franchise him for less than the rumored amount he desires

And then not franchise Hampton. If they DO finish a labor deal and next year DOES have a salary cap, we'll only get one franchise tag, and that may be the only way to keep him.

sharkweek
09-13-2009, 03:14 AM
Honestly, I don't care about our policy of not negotiating during the season. With an uncapped year coming up and $5 million in free cap space right now, it's a stupid policy and we shouldn't do it. Stubbornly sticking with it is just going to turn that $5 million into dead money. I don't care about the "Rooney Way" or whatever -- in this case, it's just straight mathematics. You want to just let a couple guys like Reed and Clark walk so we can prove some point about being smart negotiators?
I'm glad you're not managing the team then if you can't make the tough or unpopular decisions.

These two points mutually contradict each other.
No they don't. The Steelers didn't get a new contract done because they obviously didn't feel he was worth his asking price, and giving in and giving him that money just so we won't have money issues next season isn't a reason because, uncapped or not, there will most likely be more room to spend anyways. Thus if we change our minds and decide to pay him big money, we could.

To #3: It'll be a contract year; there's his incentive. Also, things like just being a good player, staying in the league, and trying to win a Super Bowl are pretty good incentives too. Have you ever heard of a kicker half-assing it for a season? Good, because neither have I.
he does have two seasons with us where he kicked in the low 70s...

To #4: What else are we going to use the money for? We don't give it to a player, it's just dead money.
Put in the bank for someone like Tomlin? There are other expenses for the team that exist outside the cap.

And then not franchise Hampton. If they DO finish a labor deal and next year DOES have a salary cap, we'll only get one franchise tag, and that may be the only way to keep him.
Uncapped we can franchise two players. If a new agreement is made, the cap will undoubtedly go up and we could spend more on both if that is what we desire at the time.


And the best reason not to give him a stellar contract: Bironas.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-06-19-top-five-kickers_N.htm (another example of Reed not even being on the radar for top 5)

Bironas recently scored a 4 year, $12M deal, and we all saw what that bought the Titans this past Thursday.

steelreserve
09-13-2009, 03:26 AM
I'm glad you're not managing the team then if you can't make the tough or unpopular decisions.

Listen, I'm not going to argue with the rest of your post -- you've got your reasons that make sense, and I've got mine.

But what I'm talking about isn't about making a tough call or being smart about money. It's about not wasting $5 million out of sheer stubbornness. We don't extend one or two more guys during this season, we're just wasting cap room and shooting ourselves in the foot. I honestly don't think Reed is worth $3 million either, but if it wouldn't affect our salary cap situation, would you rather have him on the team or not?

I also don't buy the part about saving money on player salaries to use on non-cap-related expenses. Because of the cap and revenue sharing, there is a built-in profit to owning an NFL team in the order of tens of millions of dollars per year. Using the full cap isn't going to change that, and we don't need to worry about it.

If they do get a new CBA in place, it's no guarantee that the cap will go up. It might even go DOWN, since it's based on total revenue, and with the recession and everything, this is not going to be a good year for that.


edit: well, I guess I did argue with the rest of your post after all. Ahh well.

The Lakelander
09-13-2009, 04:32 AM
Never met a Steelers fan with insight on how the Rooney's were going to spend their money. :chuckle:

steelreserve
09-13-2009, 05:07 AM
Never met a Steelers fan with insight on how the Rooney's were going to spend their money. :chuckle:

Yeah, yeah. But in this case, I'm just saying what's stupid or not stupid to do, given the rules of the game. Mostly, this is about stubbornness.

Galax Steeler
09-13-2009, 06:51 AM
I like Reed and he is one hell of a kicker. I just don't see paying him that kind of money. If he had just a little more leg and could get it into the endzone I would try to come up with a little more money but not what he is wanting.

HometownGal
09-13-2009, 06:57 AM
And the best reason not to give him a stellar contract: Bironas.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-06-19-top-five-kickers_N.htm (another example of Reed not even being on the radar for top 5)



Considering that article is over a year old, I don't put much stock in it.

I don't judge a player on football "numbers", though I did provide you with his stats compared to other kickers in the NFL in the other thread on this topic. When we need Skippy to put one through the uprights, it is very rare that he doesn't come through. THIS is what I base a kicker's true value on.

steel striker
09-13-2009, 07:56 AM
We need Reed and, he has been such a good kicker for us. Hopefully things will work out for both sides.Also we extended for contracts on the oline do you think they were worth it?

HometownGal
09-13-2009, 08:06 AM
Also we extended for contracts on the oline do you think they were worth it?

Preliminarily - no, but I'm going to give them at least half of a season to get it together before totally condemning them.

AllD
09-13-2009, 08:08 AM
Reed is clutch at Heinz which is a difficult place to kick and a home field advantage. Pay the man.

Christian Snyder
09-13-2009, 08:11 AM
I think Reed's worth it...Pay him...

fansince'76
09-13-2009, 10:27 AM
Bironas recently scored a 4 year, $12M deal, and we all saw what that bought the Titans this past Thursday.

Exactly. How many did Reed miss in Heinz Field Thursday night? All the more reason to give him a raise. I saw another post where somebody pointed out that Kris Brown was an accurate kicker. Not at Heinz he wasn't, which is why we let him leave.

ReedsGirl3
09-13-2009, 10:42 AM
Where is the link that says how much Reed is asking for???

The onlt thing I ever read was that it was a low ball offer that wasn't even in the top half of kickers in the league... so I'm just wondering how you know how much he wants???

Steelerama
09-13-2009, 10:42 AM
I'd miss the feisty Mr. Reed

BehindSteelCurtain
09-13-2009, 10:48 AM
Why don't we just get turf so we don't have to worry about our kicker kicking at Heinz?

mesaSteeler
09-13-2009, 11:20 AM
Where is the link that says how much Reed is asking for???

The onlt thing I ever read was that it was a low ball offer that wasn't even in the top half of kickers in the league... so I'm just wondering how you know how much he wants???

I have not seen any hard numbers on what he was asking for or what he was offered.

Ravenssuck
09-13-2009, 11:30 AM
Rob Bironas might have gotten 3 million per year, so what???

IMHO UNLESS you can kick 70 yard field goals consistantly, AND kick it out of the end zone on a REGULAR BASIS, you are worth 1-2 million per year...

If SKIPPY wont take 2 million, I say let him walk and say hello to PIOTR CZECH.

Don't get me wrong, I love JEFF REED, I just don't want my favorite team to overpay someone at the expense of others...

SPOCK knows what I'm talking about :

"Spock: That is wise. Were I to invoke logic, however, logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. "
Kirk: Or the one.

Steeler in Carolina
09-13-2009, 12:17 PM
I like Reed as well, but I would not give him a ton of money. Look at what the Pats did with Viniteri. When he got too expensive, they let him leave and now they have one of the best in the league.

LambertLunatic
09-13-2009, 12:55 PM
Yes, we're 5 million over the cap. If we extended Reed at 3 million a year, we'd only be 2 million over the cap. Inevitably, someone will get hurt and put on injured reserve. How many decent replacement players will we be able to sign for 2 million? We need that 5 million of cap room. It's NOT wasted cap space.

Psyychoward86
09-13-2009, 01:11 PM
I think we spoiled Reed too much. I hope goes back to his humble roots when he was jus trying out for Cowher as a kicker.

tony hipchest
09-13-2009, 01:19 PM
Since we have like $5 million in cap room that we're apparently not going to use this year, why not just say OK, Reed, we'll pay you $5 million this year and $1 million next year, so you can have your $3 million per a year and we don't f*** things up money-wise for next season.i find this curious as well. the steelers typically spend to the cap limit and will front load contracts if at all possible.

do you have a source that the steelers are in fact that much under?

xbroughneck
09-13-2009, 02:35 PM
Gonna miss him if he's gone, but I guess the front office always knows what's best. We'll survive without him.

KeiselPower99
09-13-2009, 03:20 PM
I like Reed and I think its pretty obvious he is gonna be franchised next year.

Ravenssuck
09-13-2009, 07:10 PM
What is the going rate for a "franchised" NFL kicker nowadays???

X-Terminator
09-13-2009, 07:19 PM
What is the going rate for a "franchised" NFL kicker nowadays???

$2.48 million.

And I have to admit, I've changed my mind about Reed. I say pay him. I like having the comfort of knowing that if you need a 45-yard FG at Heinz in December to win, that Reed more often than not will make that kick. It's better to spend the money on a proven commodity than bringing in an unknown just because he's cheaper.

ReedsGirl3
09-13-2009, 07:21 PM
What is the going rate for a "franchised" NFL kicker nowadays???


Around $2.5 million for 2009

Steelboy84
09-13-2009, 08:07 PM
We need to re-sign this man!

steelreserve
09-13-2009, 09:59 PM
Yes, we're 5 million over the cap. If we extended Reed at 3 million a year, we'd only be 2 million over the cap. Inevitably, someone will get hurt and put on injured reserve. How many decent replacement players will we be able to sign for 2 million? We need that 5 million of cap room. It's NOT wasted cap space.

No, we'd be $4 million over the cap. They would erase the $2 million we're already paying him.

Letting that much money go IS wasted cap space. That's why we have backups and the practice squad. Since we've got .. let's see ... 53 guys on the roster and 45 are active on game day, you're banking on the fact that eight guys are going to get injured for the season? And we should save $5 million for that?

Sorry, but no. You can routinely go right up against the cap and be fine.

steelreserve
09-13-2009, 10:06 PM
i find this curious as well. the steelers typically spend to the cap limit and will front load contracts if at all possible.

do you have a source that the steelers are in fact that much under?

I honestly don't know exactly, except that we were about $2 million under during training camp, then the Kiesel deal saved somewhere between $1.5-$2 million, and we saved another $1.1 million by getting rid of Madison. We basically went sideways on the Hartwig deal; we're paying him the same as he already made before.

According to this site (http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/2009/02/early-2009-steelers-salary-cap-numbers/) that maintains a running tally, we're about $6.75 million under, although that's give or take $2.5 million.

tony hipchest
09-13-2009, 10:09 PM
I honestly don't know exactly, except that we were about $2 million under during training camp, then the Kiesel deal saved somewhere between $1.5-$2 million, and we saved another $1.1 million by getting rid of Madison. We basically went sideways on the Hartwig deal; we're paying him the same as he already made before.

According to this site (http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/2009/02/early-2009-steelers-salary-cap-numbers/) that maintains a running tally, we're about $6.75 million under, although that's give or take $2.5 million.

thanks. i'll start my studying from here.

HometownGal
09-13-2009, 10:13 PM
$2.48 million.

I like having the comfort of knowing that if you need a 45-yard FG at Heinz in December to win, that Reed more often than not will make that kick. It's better to spend the money on a proven commodity than bringing in an unknown just because he's cheaper.

I'm with you on this, XT. When the game is on the line at HF in the blustery cold and wind in late November and December, I feel confident that Skippy will put it through the uprights. :tt03::thumbsup:

verks36
09-14-2009, 03:06 AM
The Steelers have had some pretty reliable kickers over the years ... Reed, Gary Anderson, Norm Johnson, Kris Brown.


Kris Brown was far from reliable. Reed is good he is constent but I would love it if he had a little more power. The ravens sure got them selves when hell of a kicker. But I am not complaining about reed.

ricksteelers55
09-14-2009, 03:21 AM
I might be one of the fools here but if he doesnt want to sign our deal and really wants 3 mil a year then let's show him what Steelers is all about and move on.If he really loves football and wins he will miss us next year when he signs with the Redskins for 5 mil a year and watch us win super bowls on big screen TV like our friend Faneca

Im sure we will be just fine even if we dont re-sign him.Yeah sure he's clutch and he's good at Heinz,but honestly how many long game winning field goal did he kick ? Part of his ''clutch kicking'' is the offense ability to put him in great field positions.

Dont want to take anything from him cause I still would love to see him back,I just think that the 3 mil a year could be well spent on a player like Ryan Clark instead and find a decent Kicker that can do Ok after all if we found Jeff Reed,we might find a better one who knows

ReedsGirl3
09-14-2009, 10:35 AM
For 7 years the Steelers have brought an extra leg into the camp to compete with Jeff and NO ONE has given him competition - just sign him! He deserves it. Tomlin has even said that he believes in Jeff and doesn't even worry when he sends him onto the field - he's Mr. Clutch!

BlastFurnace
09-14-2009, 10:54 AM
For 7 years the Steelers have brought an extra leg into the camp to compete with Jeff and NO ONE has given him competition - just sign him! He deserves it. Tomlin has even said that he believes in Jeff and doesn't even worry when he sends him onto the field - he's Mr. Clutch!

That's the thing. If Tomlin really wants to keep a player, the Steelers will find a way to get it done. Jeff will be a Steeler next year.

He's worth every penny that he gets. In 34 years of watching the Steelers, Reed is either the #1 or #2 kicker that they have had. Anderson used to be a lock for the #1 slot, but now, I'm not so sure.

steelpride12
09-14-2009, 10:57 AM
Many kickers in the league wouldn't deserve that kind of money, but Reed does for one reason, CLUTCH. Im not sure I would be too confident with any other kicker in the mid winter December or January in the freezing snow at Heinz Field with a 50 yard field goal in the open end to make it other than Reed. Pay him the money and make our kicking game a no worry for seasons to come! :thumbsup:

Justin Otstott
09-14-2009, 11:19 AM
The Steelers have had some pretty reliable kickers over the years ... Reed, Gary Anderson, Norm Johnson, Kris Brown.

Reed will pass Roy Gerela late this season in games played for the Steelers, into 2nd place all-time.

The guy is money.

But he doesn't reach the 5 yard line half the time he kicks off.

He'll get his if that is his ambition.

And like always the team will move on ahead. :wave:

KRIS BROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :applaudit:

kirklandrules
09-14-2009, 12:48 PM
I get a good laugh reading that the under amount is "dead money". I'm sure Art II would not think $5 mill is dead money. And, if you followed the sale of the brothers shares of the team, the Steelers are not a huge money making franchise. The franchise is worth a ton of money if you are looking at the sales price, but the team does not turn a billion dollar profit. So I'm pretty sure the Rooneys aren't looking to overpay a kicker who can't get a kickoff deep (and also takes a beating from a paper towel dispenser).

I like the guy and think he's what you would call a mudder ... he kicks through some real slop. But if you pay him $5 million large, you would have mutiny from the rest of the players making less than that. You can't pay him more than Farrior or Woodley. I like the franchise tag here, unless they want to franchise Colon (don't put it past a front office that franchised Starks and then said Willie was the better tackle).

steelreserve
09-14-2009, 01:56 PM
I get a good laugh reading that the under amount is "dead money". I'm sure Art II would not think $5 mill is dead money. And, if you followed the sale of the brothers shares of the team, the Steelers are not a huge money making franchise. The franchise is worth a ton of money if you are looking at the sales price, but the team does not turn a billion dollar profit. So I'm pretty sure the Rooneys aren't looking to overpay a kicker who can't get a kickoff deep (and also takes a beating from a paper towel dispenser).

Point is, you do not succeed in the NFL by remaining significantly below the salary cap while key players go unsigned. How much profit the owner is making personally is a non-football issue, and completely irrelevant to that fact.

That $5 million they're not spending could be used to lock up one or more key guys. So unless they really think the right move is to let Clark or Reed or Hampton walk away, they're shooting themselves in the foot by not making use of it.

To summarize: Not using your full salary cap is not a good way to cut your expenses, and good teams tend not to do it. The potential damage to the team far outweighs the few million bucks you might save.

kirklandrules
09-14-2009, 03:18 PM
I agree with your last post 'Reserve. I just wouldn't overpay the kicker is all i'm saying and I bet Art II would rather keep that money in his own pocket. They overpaid Starks and most fans felt that was a waste. If it were up to me (thank God it's not) I'd overpay Big Snack and if anyone suggests overpayment, I'd just say his agent structured the contract to be paid by the pound and we were obligated. Given their track record on dealing with player contracts, I'd trust the front office. They've lost a few good players (Hardy Nickerson being the best IMO), but generally a player leaving the Steelers usually does not have huge success elsewhere.

steelreserve
09-14-2009, 03:26 PM
Right, I agree, I don't want to overpay anyone if we can help it. But if it's the difference between keeping a key guy and not, and we still want him on the team, and we have the cap room ... well, better to just get it done IMO. We could conceivably even use the money to extend someone like Woodley who's going to be due for a raise, or Holmes, who's in the same boat. Normally I might not think it was so urgent, but with the possible uncapped year coming up, being preemptive could pay off big-time.

Let me put it this way: If we want to keep Clark, but we let it go until the offseason, what are we going to do when some other team offers him $7 million a year and Hampton $12 million a year? Extending him during the season at half that amount would look like a pretty smart move in hindsight.

HometownGal
09-14-2009, 03:45 PM
Many kickers in the league wouldn't deserve that kind of money, but Reed does for one reason, CLUTCH. Im not sure I would be too confident with any other kicker in the mid winter December or January in the freezing snow at Heinz Field with a 50 yard field goal in the open end to make it other than Reed. Pay him the money and make our kicking game a no worry for seasons to come! :thumbsup:

Abso-freakin-lutely! :drink::applaudit:

For those of you who are stuck on the "well - he doesn't put it into the EZ on kickoffs" broken record, if you look around the league, there aren't many PK's who do that on a consistent basis. However - when the Steelers need that 3, whether it be to forge ahead in a game or win - I feel blessed and relieved that we have such a reliable kicker and Skippy rarely disappoints.

If Hartwig can get a 4 year $10 mil deal, a new deal for Skippy at or close to what he is asking for should be a lock. :hope:

steelpride12
09-14-2009, 03:48 PM
Abso-freakin-lutely! :drink::applaudit:

For those of you who are stuck on the "well - he doesn't put it into the EZ on kickoffs" broken record, if you look around the league, there aren't many PK's who do that on a consistent basis. However - when the Steelers need that 3, whether it be to forge ahead in a game or win - I feel blessed and relieved that we have such a reliable kicker and Skippy rarely disappoints.

If Hartwig can get a 4 year $10 mil deal, a new deal for Skippy at or close to what he is asking for should be a lock. :hope:

Im confident Reed will get it done after this season if all goes well for him like it usually does! :thumbsup: He may not been seen as the best kicker in the league to all the analysts or the fans, but he is clutch and has won us MANY games over the past seasons and without him we may not be in the position we are, that's how big of a deal a kicker is to us!

Please sign Mr. Clutch! :wink02:

Ravenssuck
09-14-2009, 06:04 PM
My Bid is up to 2.5 Million per year after reading this entire thread.

I SAY THE FRANCHISE TAG LOOKS PRETTY ENTICING...


Somebody will surely offer him 3-4 million per year, so 2.48 is a BARGAIN...

Dan Rooney should rent out a SHEETZ BATHROOM 3-4 times a year as part of Skippy's contract, and let him punch out a few towel dispensers to vent off some of the anger that will be there when he realizes he could have gotten almost DOUBLE THE MONEY as a free agent... LOL