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ETL
09-14-2009, 08:59 PM
I've never seen something so blantant as this. Wes walker was given a first down on a crucial drive and he was tackled a full yard behind the first down. Not even half a yard. A full freaking yard. Why don't the NFL just give them the freaking Trophy

ETL
09-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Forget that post. The bills decided to shoot themselves and help the refs. Fumble in kickoff with 2 min left. What a tool. Buffalo has something in it's water that turns their football players to dumbf*cks

VinnySteel
09-14-2009, 09:05 PM
I think it was more than a yard. Also, Faulk got tackled a couple plays earlier short of the line and they gave it to him. Granted, the yellow line on our screens are "unofficial" but the ref for the Welker spot, picked the ball up and physically moved it about 1/2 a yard forward.

I can't believe I was rooting for the Bills, I should have known they'd screw it up.

austinfrench76
09-14-2009, 09:10 PM
I dont know but if the Patriots lose the entire broadcast team will all commit suicide! They are sucking teh Patriots off!!! This win has very little to do with Brady and more to do with a turnover but he will get ALL the credit!

Christian Snyder
09-14-2009, 09:14 PM
I've never seen something so blantant as this. Wes walker was given a first down on a crucial drive and he was tackled a full yard behind the first down. Not even half a yard. A full freaking yard. Why don't the NFL just give them the freaking Trophy
I was thinking the same thing....

MACH1
09-14-2009, 09:25 PM
This goes in the Other NFL forum.

ricksteelers55
09-14-2009, 09:45 PM
I dont think the game is on the ref's shoulders ....The Bills once again showed us why they are so good at choking.

Way to go Buffalo

HometownGal
09-14-2009, 09:46 PM
I don't know if the refs blown calls tonight were on purpose or not - me thinks today's refs just plain STINK.

ETL
09-14-2009, 09:52 PM
Sorry Mods. I am a steeler fan and I was rooting hard for the bills against the pats as what all Steeler fans should be doing.

i never thought another team could piss me off so much but the pathetic way in which they loss had me going.

if i was a bills fan, I would personally hunt down McKelvin and the special teams coach Bobby April and give them a new orifice to defecate from

stillers4me
09-14-2009, 09:54 PM
It reminds of their "perfect season"* when the refs constantly came up with penalties so they could give Golden Boy the ball back.

fansince'76
09-14-2009, 10:10 PM
No, the Bills gave the game away all on their own. It's what shitty teams do.

Pittsky
09-14-2009, 10:14 PM
I've never seen something so blantant as this. Wes walker was given a first down on a crucial drive and he was tackled a full yard behind the first down. Not even half a yard. A full freaking yard. Why don't the NFL just give them the freaking Trophy

i saw the same sh*T...its such BS...faulk got the same 1st down just for being in the vicinity...:mad:

Hammer Of The GODS
09-14-2009, 10:31 PM
Same shit different Patriot opponent getting screwed.


Someone in Buffalo should go take a shit on that guys porch who brought the ball out and fumbled it!



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HometownGal
09-14-2009, 10:32 PM
Sorry Mods. I am a steeler fan and I was rooting hard for the bills against the pats as what all Steeler fans should be doing.

i never thought another team could piss me off so much but the pathetic way in which they loss had me going.

if i was a bills fan, I would personally hunt down McKelvin and the special teams coach Bobby April and give them a new orifice to defecate from

No need to apologize - I totally agree with what you are saying. :drink: I'm sure Jauron was absolutely LIVID.

ricksteelers55
09-15-2009, 12:00 AM
although im not a fan of ''excuses'' I have to admit that after taking a look at the Patriots schedule this year Im confused.

I mean if you want to give special treatments you couldnt do better than that.

All the ''tough teams'' they are facing are in New England(Carolina,Baltimore and Titans) the only tough team they are facing away are the Colts and they are not a ''physical'' team.

also the game they are playing in London of course had to be an away game so they could still play 8 games in Foxboro

I wish we can play them in the playoffs and beat the %??/$?$/? out of them

I hate the Patriots,I think I hate them even more than the rat birds

Preacher
09-15-2009, 01:41 AM
No, the Bills gave the game away all on their own. It's what shitty teams do.

:thumbsup: It was the choice to bring the ball out of the end zone and then fumble it.

It was the 3rd of at least 4 close finishes. It has to be the dumbest one. THe weirdest one has to be the Bungles loss. The best one is our win. The last one is the Raiders... that's a "how was it so close" game.

steelwalls
09-15-2009, 02:17 AM
I was online with my best friend back in the states during the game, he is a life long bills fan. Of course he was devestated.

Bringing that ball out of the endzone on that KO was what cost them the game.

I did see some really crappy calls though, and a bunch of no calls by the refs.

I will say I was quite impressed with the bills, they were giving up to much underneath but thats the Pats for ya.

The_WARDen
09-15-2009, 06:58 AM
This had nothing to do with the refs... witness Wilfork getting screwed by an incorrect interpretation of the "Brady Rule".

The Bills were up 11 with 5 minutes to play. You play stupid football, you lose.

CanadianSteel
09-15-2009, 09:48 AM
I had never been so torn as last nights game.
I took the Patriots in my suicide pool but found myself still cheering for the Bills as I hate the *PATs.
I would have challanged at least one of those spots, specially the Welker one. Would have slowed down that hurry up at least and gave the D time to rest, plus it was blantantly moved a yard forward by the Ref.
Bills still had plenty of chnaces to win and no-one to blame but themselves

SteelMember
09-15-2009, 10:54 AM
:thumbsup: It was the choice to bring the ball out of the end zone and then fumble it.

Absolutely.

The 1st of 3 mistakes.

1. He brought it out of the endzone. This was dumb. They had the all hands team out looking for an on-sides kick. There was absolutely no blockers back for any type of return.

2. After he gets to about the 20, guys start ripping at the ball. He still stays up fighting for 1 or 2 extra yards. Just go down.

3. The obvious. He failed to secure the ball. After the 1st defender loosened it up a little, the next guy just punched it out.


and btw, is there a new promotion in Boston where you can wear the stupidest, ugliest and/or most retarded hat you can find, or make to the game and get in free. There were way to many to count. :nerd:

steelrush
09-15-2009, 10:59 AM
Forget that post. The bills decided to shoot themselves and help the refs. Fumble in kickoff with 2 min left. What a tool. Buffalo has something in it's water that turns their football players to dumbf*cks

I agree with your statement.
But on another note:
I was baffled by the poor, draggin' one foot through the sand game the Cheatriots played. I mean, c'mon! All that media "Brady's back and the Pats are ranking #1 all over again" thrown hype.
Boy.....whoaaaaa....If WE had played them we would've whooped their sorry a***s all the way outta Foxborough and to the middle of the Atlantic!
What a pathetic game...and against the Bills? And at home???
I can't wait to see them taking the Titans on, Oct.18 in Week 6!:rofl:

HughC
09-15-2009, 01:30 PM
although im not a fan of ''excuses'' I have to admit that after taking a look at the Patriots schedule this year Im confused.

I mean if you want to give special treatments you couldnt do better than that.

All the ''tough teams'' they are facing are in New England(Carolina,Baltimore and Titans) the only tough team they are facing away are the Colts and they are not a ''physical'' team.

also the game they are playing in London of course had to be an away game so they could still play 8 games in Foxboro

I wish we can play them in the playoffs and beat the %??/$?$/? out of them

I hate the Patriots,I think I hate them even more than the rat birds
Do you have any idea how the NFL comes up with its schedule?

It's a simple rotation: besides the six division games, you also have four games against another division in your conference, once every three years; four games against each team from a division outside your conference, once every four years; and two games against teams that finished in the same place that your team did.

Once you go through those rotations you repeat, alternating home and away. Fans get to see every team within their conference play their team twice in six years, once home and once away. And fans get to see their team play every team in the other conference twice every eight years, once home and once away.

Considering the Steelers schedule this year, I wouldn't advise getting in to a debate about another team having an "easy" schedule. I think your hatred of the Patriots may be clouding your common sense.

steelwalls
09-16-2009, 12:33 AM
I thought it was kinda funny though Jaws got a little lippy with Gruden once....man I was hopeing gruden was going punch him in the mouth....

ricksteelers55
09-16-2009, 04:42 AM
Do you have any idea how the NFL comes up with its schedule?

It's a simple rotation: besides the six division games, you also have four games against another division in your conference, once every three years; four games against each team from a division outside your conference, once every four years; and two games against teams that finished in the same place that your team did.

Once you go through those rotations you repeat, alternating home and away. Fans get to see every team within their conference play their team twice in six years, once home and once away. And fans get to see their team play every team in the other conference twice every eight years, once home and once away.

Considering the Steelers schedule this year, I wouldn't advise getting in to a debate about another team having an "easy" schedule. I think your hatred of the Patriots may be clouding your common sense.

Huh....I know how schedule works....although not true for alterning home and away.They do alternate but it's not necessary the next time,sometimes team can be away against the same team 2 or 3 consecutive games before having the next 2 or 3 at home.(which means they didnt have to ''absolutely'' put the Pats at home against the Ravens as it is not even a rotation game)

Now yeah we might have an ''easy schedule'' but we didnt steal it that's my point.We had the toughest schedule since the 70's last year.What I'm saying is that I just find it weird that all the toughest games the Patriots are having this year(toughest physical teams I mean) are all at home and the 2 best opponents they are facing away are in a dome(Colts and Saints).

So yeah maybe I'm blinded by my hate for the Patriots but we dont get things like that in Steeler country,no in fact we get strip from evening games at Heinz against the rat birds

but anyway we'll see in the long run if those patriots are for real,hopefully we put a L on their road

HughC
09-19-2009, 12:30 AM
Still true for alternating home and away in regards to schedule rotations. Nobody at the NFL offices is 'fixing' schedules. Teams also alternate in regards to the 1st vs 1st, 2nd vs 2nd schedules. Due to the way they set up those rotations sometimes one team will be home two or even three years in a row against a team, and then away two or three years in a row against that team. It's all pre-determined by the rotation formula; nobody can change a home game to an away game or an away game to a home game.

In regards to them playing the Titans at home this year, if you look it up there's a simple explanation: last time they played the AFCS it was in Tennessee. As far as playing the Ravens at home, that's because of the way the 1st-1st, 2nd-2nd rotation works.

For example, let's look at the top AFCE teams since that's who we're discussing:
In '06 their div games are AFCS; then it's home vs west (den) and at the north (pitt).
'07 is div games vs AFCN; home vs west (sd) and at the south (indy).
'08 is div games vs AFCW; home vs north (pitt), away at south (indy).
'09 is div games vs AFCS; home vs north (balt), away at west (denv).
'10 will be div games vs AFCN; home vs south and away at west.
Should it continue '11 will be div games vs AFCW; home vs south and away at north.


So yes, teams can indeed be home (or away) against a specific team two or even three consecutive times. However, there is no man behind the curtain putting the Ravens on the road against New England, or anything like that. Even those final two games have a specific order to them, including where those games are played.

The reason I advised against bringing up the schedule is not so fans from another team would school you - which they would - it was because I didn't want Steeler fans to look like they didn't know what they were talking about.

ricksteelers55
09-19-2009, 02:46 AM
Still true for alternating home and away in regards to schedule rotations. Nobody at the NFL offices is 'fixing' schedules. Teams also alternate in regards to the 1st vs 1st, 2nd vs 2nd schedules. Due to the way they set up those rotations sometimes one team will be home two or even three years in a row against a team, and then away two or three years in a row against that team. It's all pre-determined by the rotation formula; nobody can change a home game to an away game or an away game to a home game.

In regards to them playing the Titans at home this year, if you look it up there's a simple explanation: last time they played the AFCS it was in Tennessee. As far as playing the Ravens at home, that's because of the way the 1st-1st, 2nd-2nd rotation works.

For example, let's look at the top AFCE teams since that's who we're discussing:
In '06 their div games are AFCS; then it's home vs west (den) and at the north (pitt).
'07 is div games vs AFCN; home vs west (sd) and at the south (indy).
'08 is div games vs AFCW; home vs north (pitt), away at south (indy).
'09 is div games vs AFCS; home vs north (balt), away at west (denv).
'10 will be div games vs AFCN; home vs south and away at west.
Should it continue '11 will be div games vs AFCW; home vs south and away at north.


So yes, teams can indeed be home (or away) against a specific team two or even three consecutive times. However, there is no man behind the curtain putting the Ravens on the road against New England, or anything like that. Even those final two games have a specific order to them, including where those games are played.

The reason I advised against bringing up the schedule is not so fans from another team would school you - which they would - it was because I didn't want Steeler fans to look like they didn't know what they were talking about.

I see well seems like i was wrong,but how come we played the buccaneers 2 consecutive times in Tampa Bay before playing in Pittsburgh in 2006 ? It wasnt an ''additional game'' it was a rotational game so it should have been home-away no ?

HughC
09-21-2009, 01:20 AM
I see well seems like i was wrong,but how come we played the buccaneers 2 consecutive times in Tampa Bay before playing in Pittsburgh in 2006 ? It wasnt an ''additional game'' it was a rotational game so it should have been home-away no ?
2002 (away) and 2006 (home) were part of the current rotation.

2001 was part of a completely different setup when there were only three divisions in each conferense, and there were a different number of teams in each division. 2001 schedule was also screwy because there were 31 teams in the league that year.

The current setup can still end up with up to three consecutive home (or away) games against a specific team because a "1 vs 1" plays home twice in a row (or away twice in a row) and then in the third year those two teams could meet in "this division vs that division", and that div-div rotation could happen to be be on the same home/away rotation.

ricksteelers55
09-21-2009, 03:04 AM
2002 (away) and 2006 (home) were part of the current rotation.

2001 was part of a completely different setup when there were only three divisions in each conferense, and there were a different number of teams in each division. 2001 schedule was also screwy because there were 31 teams in the league that year.

The current setup can still end up with up to three consecutive home (or away) games against a specific team because a "1 vs 1" plays home twice in a row (or away twice in a row) and then in the third year those two teams could meet in "this division vs that division", and that div-div rotation could happen to be be on the same home/away rotation.

Oh well thanks Ive always thought that schedule rotation and the 2 additional games that we play were synchronized.

like we played the Broncos in 07 in Denver but it was a non-rotational game and we're playing them this year in Denver and I was wondering why 2 consecutive games in Denver it made no-sense.And yeah didnt think about the 31 teams in 2001.

Then I appologize for the false statement that ive made ....league wants the pats to win the SB but they cant fix the schedule :p