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tony hipchest
09-17-2009, 08:39 PM
:screwy: its idiots like these who think carrying a gun to a presidential appearance, in protest, is a good idea.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_13355375

LAS CRUCES - The U.S. Secret Service confirmed that it was investigating a Las Cruces man's not-unprecedented threats against the government.

Ken Triplett, 54, whose Nazi flag caught the attention of neighbors and veterans last week, is on three years of supervisory release after a 2008 conviction for felony assault on a federal officer, U.S. attorney spokesman Norm Cairns and U.S. Probation Office Deputy Chief Jose Cordova confirmed.

Triplett's flags - which he said signified protest against what he viewed as unjust government action and impending communism - were taken down Sept. 11 but went back up Monday, a Nazi flag still on top but the American flag right-side-up this time.

A call to Triplett at his business, New Mexico Roof Coating Co., met with no reply and a hang-up. A subsequent message left there, seeking comment, was not returned.

Alleged threats on Labor Day, that Triplett "said that he was heavily armed and that if he had to, he would strap bombs to himself and go to Washington, D.C., to take care of the government," reported by neighbors to Las Cruces police, got the attention of the Secret Service. Agents "went door to door" Sunday, said neighbor Victor Muñoz, 45, a Marine Corps veteran who said Triplett once told him he'd sold ammunition to the Iraqis as a Blackwater employee.

Secret Service Special Agent and spokesman Rich Ferretti confirmed the visit and said the investigation, which includes interviews and a check into Triplett's claims of
military service, was still in its very early stages.

"We're still conducting a background investigation," Ferretti said. "If we feel something's a criminal act, we present it to the U.S. attorney. If we feel someone's a threat to our protectees, we monitor those individuals."

Triplett is on supervisory release after a November 2007 altercation at the Border Patrol checkpoint on Interstate 25 north of Las Cruces, where Triplett, accompanied by his two young sons, threatened to suicide-bomb the checkpoint, according to documents filed by a FBI agent in U.S. District Court.

"I was in Iraq for several years fighting for you guys," and "You are the reason I carry a shotgun," Triplett reportedly said, going at one agent who had to push Triplett away and warn him, according to the documents.

Once a supervisor arrived, "Triplett made threats of violence towards all the agents assigned to the checkpoint. Triplett stated that the next time he came through, he would have his vehicle packed with explosives and would detonate it, killing everyone and destroying the checkpoint," the documents state.

GOOOOOO Rightwingnuts!!!!! :banana: :cheer:

Preacher
09-17-2009, 08:42 PM
Funny Tony.. because Nationalistic SOCIALISM is a left wing issue.

However, this guy is a complete idiot. Not sure why you want to play politics with this though.

tony hipchest
09-17-2009, 09:12 PM
Not sure why you want to play politics with this though.dont you have some posters on youre side of the aisle you can go single out and chastise, or are you in with them lock step?

because Nationalistic SOCIALISM is a left wing issue.


....and terroristic threats area right wing isue???????

NJarhead
09-17-2009, 09:40 PM
C'mon Tone. This guys an idiot without a side.:chuckle:

tony hipchest
09-17-2009, 09:52 PM
C'mon Tone. This guys an idiot without a side.:chuckle:well, he says he sold ammo to iraqis, and flew the flag uspide down.

that (along with his terroristic threats against our govt) tell me he is not on the side of america, and more aligned with terrorists.

which (according to some strange logic passed around here lately) means he obviously is in favor of obamas health care reform plan.

:willy: guilt by association sux. :willy:

NJarhead
09-17-2009, 09:57 PM
well, he says he sold ammo to iraqis, and flew the flag uspide down.

that (along with his terroristic threats against our govt) tell me he is not on the side of america, and more aligned with terrorists.

which (according to some strange logic passed around here lately) means he obviously is in favor of obamas health care reform plan.

:willy: guilt by association sux. :willy:

:doh:

Wouldn't ya just rather talk football? :laughing:

Logging out. You folks have a good night.

:drink:

Preacher
09-17-2009, 10:23 PM
dont you have some posters on youre side of the aisle you can go single out and chastise, or are you in with them lock step?



....and terroristic threats area right wing isue???????

Once again you completely sidestep the point.

There is nothing here that proclaims he is a "rightie" However, you do proclaim him so. I just pointed out that Nazi'ism is a LEFTIST position.

Spin all you want.

And funny thing, I didn't see anyone else post a discussion of a nazi and say, "look, a democrat" Otherwise, I would have said the same thing to them.

tony hipchest
09-17-2009, 10:58 PM
There is nothing here that proclaims he is a "rightie"....

:rofl:

i presume you are not a betting man so i wont even ask.

even if you were a betting man, i am almost sure this is a bet you would not take.

assuming you were a betting man who took the bet, i know dozens of people in the local courthouse (and myself who has worked 5 elections as an election judge) that could confirm that he is a registered republican in a matter of minutes.

not only does this guy fit the profile of an extreme right wing nutjob, he epitomizes it.

you saying otherwise is akin to saying just because a man has a video library full of child porn and :jerkit: every night, doesnt mean they are a pervert.

nice try though.

7SteelGal43
09-17-2009, 11:03 PM
I think WarDen is right. He sounds more like an idiot without a side. Kind of like the LaRouche people who were carrying signs of Bush with a Hitler mustache and now are carrying signs of Obama with a Hitler mustache.

tony hipchest
09-17-2009, 11:21 PM
bu..bu...bu...bush?

i shoulda expected....

this guy most definitely has a side.

MACH1
09-17-2009, 11:26 PM
well, he says he sold ammo to iraqis,
tell me he is not on the side of america, and more aligned with muslim extremists.

which means he obviously is in favor of obamas health care reform plan.


So in other words your saying he's an obaaama supporter.

tony hipchest
09-17-2009, 11:34 PM
So in other words your saying he's an obaaama supporter.
no. according to others, he just isnt against healthcare reform. that is about all we know at this point other than this-

After the Border Patrol checkpoint incident, Triplett “was ordered to successfully complete both a mental health treatment program and anger management counseling and to not possess any firearms, according to documents filed in U.S. District Court.”

WHAT??? they took away his right to pwn gunz???? omgz!

:shout:-PANIC!!!

MACH1
09-18-2009, 12:03 AM
no. according to others, he just isnt against healthcare reform. that is about all we know at this point other than this-

After the Border Patrol checkpoint incident, Triplett “was ordered to successfully complete both a mental health treatment program and anger management counseling and to not possess any firearms, according to documents filed in U.S. District Court.”

WHAT??? they took away his right to pwn gunz???? omgz!

:shout:-PANIC!!!

http://orri.blog.is/users/49/orri/img/c_documents_and_settings_notandi_my_documents_my_p ictures_killer_sheep.jpg

stlrtruck
09-18-2009, 07:50 AM
well, he says he sold ammo to iraqis, and flew the flag uspide down.

that (along with his terroristic threats against our govt) tell me he is not on the side of america, and more aligned with terrorists.

which (according to some strange logic passed around here lately) means he obviously is in favor of obamas health care reform plan.

:willy: guilt by association sux. :willy:

Speaking specifically to the US Flag upside down, if I'm correct, that is a communication to signal trouble. IF that's the case, then the flag should be flown upside down at the White House!

NJarhead
09-18-2009, 11:24 AM
This is why I stopped reading the news: Idiots like this, politics, people who refuse to stand for the National Anthem (and the asses who defend them), reading about pedophiles, yadda-yadda, and the reader comments. I refuse to subject myself to getting upset about it anymore.

They say that "ignorance is bliss." Well, I FULLY intend to find out if that is the truth.

Here's to a better mental quality of life. :drink:

SteelerEmpire
09-18-2009, 11:41 AM
Flying a Nazi flag, mingling with Iraqis...... It always amazed me why anyone would want to be on the losing side of the war....??

revefsreleets
09-18-2009, 11:56 AM
No way is this guy a Republican...he hates both parties equally almost for certain, and probably hates ALL government...sounds much more like an anarchist to me...

Also, just to keep things straight, a LIBERAL journalist published an Op/Ed piece stating that if you stand against Obama's healthcare reform, you support the terrorists. She was directing that at Republicans and Blue Dog Dem's...just want to keep the FACTS straight before they get all twisted up again in ridiculous spin...

steelreserve
09-18-2009, 12:11 PM
Why are we even arguing about this? The guy is obviously just a flat-out idiot. I don't really care which political party he stumbled his way into, if any.

Steelerstrength
09-18-2009, 12:58 PM
:popcorn:

43Hitman
09-18-2009, 01:21 PM
:rofl:

i presume you are not a betting man so i wont even ask.

even if you were a betting man, i am almost sure this is a bet you would not take.

assuming you were a betting man who took the bet, i know dozens of people in the local courthouse (and myself who has worked 5 elections as an election judge) that could confirm that he is a registered republican in a matter of minutes.

not only does this guy fit the profile of an extreme right wing nutjob, he epitomizes it.

you saying otherwise is akin to saying just because a man has a video library full of child porn and :jerkit: every night, doesnt mean they are a pervert.

nice try though.

You do know that there are crazy's on both sides right??? Van Jones anyone( http://www.breitbart.tv/van-jones-only-suburbal-white-kids-shoot-up-schools/)? Cass Sunstein(http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/opinion-cass-sunstein-has-secret-animal-rights-agenda)?

And these guys were/ARE in the white house.:coffee:

All right tone do your best DJ Jazzy Jeff impression..spin away..spin away

X-Terminator
09-18-2009, 01:32 PM
Why are we even arguing about this? The guy is obviously just a flat-out idiot. I don't really care which political party he stumbled his way into, if any.

This.

Tony obviously has an agenda, but really...the bottom line is the guy's a nut. Period. And revs is also correct in that this guy is most likely an anarchist, and given that I actually KNOW an anarchist (who isn't close to the whackjob that this guy is, just to clarify), they are both anti-government and anti-parties.

Preacher
09-18-2009, 04:59 PM
This.

Tony obviously has an agenda, but really...the bottom line is the guy's a nut. Period. And revs is also correct in that this guy is most likely an anarchist, and given that I actually KNOW an anarchist (who isn't close to the whackjob that this guy is, just to clarify), they are both anti-government and anti-parties.

QFT :thumbsup:

tony hipchest
09-18-2009, 07:03 PM
http://orri.blog.is/users/49/orri/img/c_documents_and_settings_notandi_my_documents_my_p ictures_killer_sheep.jpg


lol. now thats scary....

6zGOhoHktJc

tony hipchest
09-18-2009, 07:53 PM
holy shit... this dude is even kookier than even i initially believed. he may very well be an anarchist (now).-

http://www.lcsun-news.com/tablehome/ci_13304848

Neighbors worry East Mesa flag display will lead to violence

LAS CRUCES - East Mesa residents said Wednesday they are concerned about the potential for a neighbor's political demonstration to turn violent.

Ken Triplett, 54, has displayed an upside-down American flag, which symbolizes distress, beneath a four-swastika-adorned Nazi flag called the "Fuhrer Flag" since the Labor Day weekend.

Las Cruces Police visited Triplett's residence Monday evening after two upset neighbors showed up outside to see his flag display.

Triplett, who was mowing his lawn, "obtained a very large long rifle with a scope on it and carried it around his front yard as if to flaunt it" but did not point it at anyone, according to the police report. After officers arrived on scene, three unnamed neighbors arrived, telling police that Triplett "said that he was heavily armed and that if he had to, he would strap bombs to himself and go to Washington, D.C. to take care of the government," according to police reports.

Sgt. Kiri Daines, who responded to the weapon call, said police continue to pay attention to the situation on Reynolds Drive but that Triplett isn't considered a suspect in any crime.

"We're aware of the situation, but right now, he's just exercising his First Amendment rights," Daines said, "as long as he doesn't take action or take a significant step toward that action."

Reached via cell phone Wednesday, Triplett said his protest was against unjust wars and a government that failed to take adequate care of the elderly and homeless while
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bailing out banks and outsourcing jobs. And if his neighbors didn't recognize that, they're "sheep," he said.

"I have nothing against this country. I'm not racist or communist," said Triplett, who said that he served in the Army from 2003-2006 as a Special Forces sergeant and that he planned to leave the country and give up his citizenship. While he said he "loves" the flag, he also spoke favorably of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, saying the government "should have given him a Congressional Medal of Honor. In my opinion, he didnÍt do enough."

As for his display, Triplett said his flags don't represent Adolf Hitler, but what he believes is communism: "I'm flying them until one of the politicians comes and talks to me. Any of them."

He added, "Eventually, I'll take the flag down, but I want to make a point."

Area veterans hope Triplett will remove the flags soon.

"We're doing everything we can to get that taken down," said neighbor Greg Baker, 32, who served in the 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marines, Weapons Company from 1996 to 2000.

Baker and his father-in-law reported seeing Triplett with the gun on Monday and called Triplett's remarks about strapping bombs to himself, reported by his neighbors, "a terroristic threat."

"I am very concerned with the possibility of violence. Not only that, I'm very concerned about the Jewish people, the Jewish community in this town, because that is a slap in the face they don't need," Baker said. "He can run a Rebel Cross up there for all I care, but (flying the U.S. flag) upside down and below something else, that's what irritates me to no end."

Chaparral resident John Baird, 38, a 20-year Army veteran who worked as a Patriot missile operator and served in the first Gulf War, said he worried about the threat Triplett posed to his neighbors if the situation continued.

"That entire neighborhood is littered with veterans and if he has that much animosity built up ... I feel like he's a threat,î Baird said. "Never doubt a barking dog. It's going to bite - and this dog's barking."

Navy veteran Donnie Brainard, 41, who served in the Navy from 1987 to1993, with two years on the U.S.S. Ranger aircraft carrier, said he was "disgusted" by Triplett's flags and comments."As a veteran, I feel immensely proud of my country and what it's done to me, and God, to fly the flag with the swastika is grotesque," Brainard said. "It actually sounds like this guy's kind of dangerous."

Viktoria Szolnoki, 32, Brainard's girlfriend, said Triplett's political ideas seemed more "mistaken." Szolnoki, a native of Zalaegerszeg, Hungary, who left in 1999, grew up under a communist system that she said reformed after the 1970s.

"The swastika is definitely not a sign of communism. The sign of communism is a sickle and hammer, if you remember the old Soviet flag," Szolnoki said. "In communism, actually, the elderly were very well taken care of in Hungary. The health care was always free. You got free spa tickets and you could stay at the hospital by the hot springs if you had arthritis, and children's education was excellent."

The situation sparked an additional protest Wednesday.

Victor Chavez, 63, a neighbor and disabled Army and Navy veteran, wheeled his walker and carried two American flags up and down the sidewalk outside Triplett's residence for hours.

"I really am ashamed of what's going on here," said Chavez, who was injured after being hit on guard duty while serving in Korea and said it was hard to believe that a fellow veteran would make such a display. "I think that's probably the biggest insult (Triplett) could give us (veterans). If he's going to protest, I think we should protest, too."

Chavez said it was "hard to believe" a fellow veteran would make such a display, but added, referring to Timothy McVeigh, who served during the Gulf War and aspired to join Army Special Forces, "that guy who blew up (the federal building in) Oklahoma (City), he served in Iraq, too."

Victor Mu-oz, 45, a neighbor who worked anti-tank assault in the Marines from 1984 to 1987, said he was worried about where the situation on Reynolds Drive might end, especially as a father of small children.

"If you have some dissent with the government, there are certainly other ways of going about it without disgracing the flag," Mu-oz said. "I'm concerned about the safety of the neighborhood because if you get some real radical chain concerned about that swastika ... I've got to worry about someone retaliating. I don't want to see any trouble."

on second thought, he is most definitely a cornfed, born and bred, redneck, republican (although of the uber extremist conservative, nutjob, variety.) :yep:

he even uses all the proper neocon lexicon with typical buzzwords such as "sheep" and "communist".

plus he mows his lawn with a rifle. :bringit:

:wave:

7SteelGal43
09-18-2009, 09:01 PM
holy shit... this dude is even kookier than even i initially believed. he may very well be an anarchist (now).-



on second thought, he is most definitely a cornfed, born and bred, redneck, republican (although of the uber extremist conservative, nutjob, variety.) :yep:

he even uses all the proper neocon lexicon with typical buzzwords such as "sheep" and "communist".

plus he mows his lawn with a rifle. :bringit:

:wave:




Yeah, wow, hmmm, you may have something. Which part of what he was quoted as saying gave him away as a Republican, tony ? Was it "his protest was against unjust wars" or was it "and a government that failed to take adequate care of the elderly and homeless "

Look, he may be a registered Republican for all I know. :noidea: But nowhere in either article does it say his party affiliation. He has guns (one coud assume Republican) BUT, he's against an unjust war (one could assume NOT Republican)

tony hipchest
09-18-2009, 09:07 PM
he's against an unjust war (one could assume NOT Republican)or one could assume he's not a sheeple dolt. an idiot pshycopath? yes.

how do you mow your lawn?

43Hitman
09-18-2009, 09:10 PM
or one could assume he's not a sheeple dolt. an idiot pshycopath? yes.

how do you mow your lawn?

I use my teeth..:chuckle:

I am the Lawnmower Man.

tony hipchest
09-18-2009, 09:24 PM
I use my teeth..:chuckle:



hmmmmm.... so do SHEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!! :tap:

:chuckle:

6zGOhoHktJc

43Hitman
09-18-2009, 09:28 PM
hmmmmm.... so do SHEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!! :tap:

:chuckle:

6zGOhoHktJc

I guess you missed the Stephen King reference...:noidea:

tony hipchest
09-18-2009, 10:48 PM
I guess you missed the Stephen King reference...:noidea:nope. i caught it. (saw the movie, didnt read the book).

i wasnt knocking on you (despite the earlier deflection to van jones in this thread). i guess you missed the sheep reference. :hunch:

43Hitman
09-19-2009, 12:51 AM
nope. i caught it. (saw the movie, didnt read the book).

i wasnt knocking on you (despite the earlier deflection to van jones in this thread). i guess you missed the sheep reference. :hunch:

I learned from one of the best.:chuckle:

You should read the book by the way, King has a way with words that you just can't capture on film. Except the Green Mile, that was pretty close.