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mesaSteeler
10-03-2009, 12:14 AM
Woodley wants to get back to the sack
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_646207.html#
By John Harris
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Saturday, October 3, 2009

Quarterback pressures are fine if you're into those type of statistics, said Steelers outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley.

Woodley, however, knows the more devastating effects that sacks can have on opposing quarterbacks.

"Pressure's all right,'' Woodley said. "But the thing about getting sacks is the team loses yards, putting the quarterback on the ground, maybe losing a fumble, giving our offense a chance to get the ball.

"That's the thing about getting the big sack.''

Woodley should know. He recorded 15 1/2 sacks in his first two seasons, including 11 1/2 sacks in 2008.

He has an NFL-record two sacks in four straight playoff games and has eight career sacks in the postseason.

Entering Sunday night's game against San Diego at Heinz Field, though, Woodley is tied for third on the team with five quarterback pressures but doesn't have a sack.

"I've got to pick that part of my game up,'' he said.

That's been easier said than done for Woodley and his defensive teammates.

Through the first three games, teams are relying on a short passing attack against the Steelers. Opposing quarterbacks are taking shorter drops and getting rid of the ball quicker to avoid sacks.

The result is that, whereas last year the Steelers recorded 51 sacks, averaging just more than three per game, this year they have just five, an average of fewer than two per game.

In 32 third-down passing situations of five yards or more against the Steelers this season -- including 27 passes out of the shotgun -- opposing quarterbacks are 15-of-32 for 132 yards and a touchdown with one sack.

"When we played Tennessee, the Bears and Cincinnati, the quarterback was doing a great job of not holding the ball as long,'' Woodley said. "When a quarterback's not holding the ball, you can't really get that much pressure. So we have to take advantage of the opportunities we do get when he holds the ball longer than three seconds. I don't think we've been doing a good job of that.''

Even Woodley admits the difficulty trying to reach the quarterback in three seconds or less.

"I've never seen a rusher get back there with a three-step drop,'' he said. "When you see teams going with a three-step drop, they're just trying to hit the underneath stuff -- they're not worried about the deep ball.''

Woodley said the way to counter that strategy is for the defense to put teams in passing situations so they have to throw downfield.

"When they hold the ball, we need to take advantage of it and get back chasing the quarterback,'' Woodley said.

Woodley has been an intimidating pass rusher, using his blend of strength and first-step quickness to overpower blockers and create havoc in the backfield.

In last year's divisional playoff game against San Diego, Woodley recorded two sacks for a total of 18 yards in losses.

The Steelers posted four sacks in a 35-24 win against the Chargers that sent them to the AFC Championship game.

"It's real important when you apply pressure to the quarterback,'' Woodley said. "The quarterback gets rattled a little bit and wants to get rid of the ball. It gives your secondary an opportunity to get an interception. We did a good job of that last year and we need to pick it up again this year.''

John Harris can be reached at jharris@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

Steeldude
10-03-2009, 01:16 AM
has woodley put on extra weight this season? he appears slow in containment and pursuit.

tony hipchest
10-03-2009, 01:33 AM
has woodley put on extra weight this season? he appears slow in containment and pursuit.yeah. in the camp tour interview with MTC on sirius he admitted putting on about 8 pounds but said it was "good weight".

Galax Steeler
10-03-2009, 06:49 AM
yeah. in the camp tour interview with MTC on sirius he admitted putting on about 8 pounds but said it was "good weight".

I hope it is good weight I would love to see Woodley get back to his old self. I think that is alot of our problems on defense we are not getting to the quarterback like we should.

Fire Haley
10-03-2009, 12:06 PM
We need somebody, anybody, on the defense to step up and make some plays.

Letting teams drive the field and win the game in the 4th qtr is unacceptable.

Sharkissle29
10-03-2009, 12:22 PM
Im not so sure if its us not getting pressure. I think QB's have been extremely quick with the ball, not allowing us to get there

markymarc
10-03-2009, 02:29 PM
We need somebody, anybody, on the defense to step up and make some plays.

Letting teams drive the field and win the game in the 4th qtr is unacceptable.

You are correct Killer!

Christian Snyder
10-03-2009, 03:24 PM
We need somebody, anybody, on the defense to step up and make some plays.



Letting teams drive the field and win the game in the 4th qtr is unacceptable.



You are correct.

St33lersguy
10-03-2009, 05:29 PM
The steelers need to start putting on the pressure. I have not seen that this year

stb_steeler
10-03-2009, 07:56 PM
We need somebody, anybody, on the defense to step up and make some plays.

Letting teams drive the field and win the game in the 4th qtr is unacceptable.

I hear Joey Porter wants out of miami.......:rofl:

revefsreleets
10-03-2009, 09:17 PM
Cutler killed us with his quick release on the last drive. Palmer killed us with quick developing plays on THEIR last drive. LOL at Wood "Looking slow"...yeah, that's it...

Seriously, this is an adjustment that needs to be made based on opposing teams adjusting to us. Checkers players need not apply...

devilsdancefloor
10-03-2009, 09:23 PM
the thing i hate seeing is 3 man rush and woodley & deebo fall back in coverage. It seems liek we are doing that alot on 3rd downs this year.

revefsreleets
10-03-2009, 09:26 PM
the thing i hate seeing is 3 man rush and woodley & deebo fall back in coverage. It seems liek we are doing that alot on 3rd downs this year.

Actually, a combination of that and ILB blitzes would be the obvious SOLUTION if this was a simple linear problem.

Steeldude
10-03-2009, 09:53 PM
LOL at Wood "Looking slow"...yeah, that's it

who was that giving poor containment and slow pursuit in the titans game? i see harrison come from his own side of the field running right past woodley who is moving like a slug. i guess that was woodley moving fast, in your opinion.

Riddle_Of_Steel
10-03-2009, 10:40 PM
Woodley wants to get back to the sack.

The fans would like that as well....

solardave
10-04-2009, 06:53 AM
yeah. in the camp tour interview with MTC on sirius he admitted putting on about 8 pounds but said it was "good weight".

It's only good weight if you improve. He seems slower and not as strong on the bullrush. Hopefully as the season goes on he'll shed it and get back to being the beast we all know. Tonight would be a good time to start.

revefsreleets
10-04-2009, 10:03 AM
who was that giving poor containment and slow pursuit in the titans game? i see harrison come from his own side of the field running right past woodley who is moving like a slug. i guess that was woodley moving fast, in your opinion.

"Woodley is moving like a slug"...

Stop it...you're killing me:rofl: Perhaps it's just bad footwork?:blah:

There are glass half empty guys on here, but you are in a class all by yourself...

steelpride12
10-04-2009, 10:36 AM
Im not keying on one guy like Wood or Harrison to step up and make a play. Just someone, anyone on defense needs to step up make a huge play INT, drive ending sack so get this defense re amped!

steelerjim58
10-04-2009, 11:50 AM
the thing i hate seeing is 3 man rush and woodley & deebo fall back in coverage. It seems liek we are doing that alot on 3rd downs this year.

I'm with you on this. I know Lebeau has forgotten more about football a couple of times over than what I know, but for me when both Woodley and Harrison are dropping into coverage the Steelers are just doing the other team a huge favor.

Steeldude
10-04-2009, 02:10 PM
"Woodley is moving like a slug"...

Stop it...you're killing me:rofl: Perhaps it's just bad footwork?:blah:

There are glass half empty guys on here, but you are in a class all by yourself...

bad footwork moving forward? now that's funny. anymore absurd excuses? so i guess hampton isn't slow, he just has bad footwork :toofunny: i can't believe you offered poor footwork as the reason he was passed by harrison from across the field. once again you have proven yourself to be void of any common sense/logic.:thumbsup:

your posts are about as informative as steel head's and your attitude that everyone in the steelers' organization is flawless and can do no wrong, is very raideresque. take off the homer goggles.

revefsreleets
10-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Dude, I was mocking you for being a blind El-Gonzo disciple concerning Starks. Yikes....WHOOSH....right over your head!

Woodley is fine...try complimenting a player here and there, you might like it....and concerning informative, how does bashing every player and coach count as information. Any twit with a keyboard can do THAT....

Woodley is transitioning into becoming a mature and complete OLB in the Steelers 3-4 defense. James Harrison never had to go through this, BUT Peazy did...ignorant fans who don't understand ALL the responsibilities thinking he was slow or old or stupid because he was dropping into coverage and becoming a COMPLETE defensive player in an incredibly complex defensive scheme.

But, no, I'm sure YOU are right...he's just slow...:rofl:

Spidey
10-05-2009, 07:51 AM
It's getting pretty painful to watch from where i'm sitting!

I did notice him getting some good pressure tail end of the 4th quarter, he was inches away from stripping the ball from PR.

However, . . . I noticed on one play when they ran it, he just flopped down on the turf, like he'd been shot!

I believe his only tackle was when the runner fell forward and he just jumped on top of him.

Still no sacks, still tackle shy. Talk about a slow start!!

I was expecting like most that' he'd be a monster this year, but you'd be foolish not to except that We can't see the Wood for the Trees!

He needs a big game, Detroit next, 5 games in, no more excuses!

revefsreleets
10-05-2009, 09:10 AM
He's being asked to do a LOT more this year than just one-dimensionally rush the passer...and that's exactly what we need our OLB's to be doing. Proof positive is that in all of 2008 he only had 2 passes defended, and he's already defended 2 passes this year. He's also some QB pressures this year, too.

We should also credit opposing teams for gameplanning for him this year. Teams are going to short drops and quick routes specifically to keep him and Harrison of their QB's asses.

He's fine, adjusting to the increased responsibilities, and this has NOTHING to do with him being a slow

arge5809
10-05-2009, 10:13 AM
yeah. in the camp tour interview with MTC on sirius he admitted putting on about 8 pounds but said it was "good weight".

Has he been hanging out with Big Snack in the off season???

:popcorn: :noidea:

Steeldude
10-05-2009, 11:06 AM
Dude, I was mocking you for being a blind El-Gonzo disciple concerning Starks. Yikes....WHOOSH....right over your head!

Woodley is fine...try complimenting a player here and there, you might like it....and concerning informative, how does bashing every player and coach count as information. Any twit with a keyboard can do THAT....

Woodley is transitioning into becoming a mature and complete OLB in the Steelers 3-4 defense. James Harrison never had to go through this, BUT Peazy did...ignorant fans who don't understand ALL the responsibilities thinking he was slow or old or stupid because he was dropping into coverage and becoming a COMPLETE defensive player in an incredibly complex defensive scheme.

But, no, I'm sure YOU are right...he's just slow...:rofl:

if you can't take it then don't dish it out.

how does bashing every player and coach count as information

i don't know, who does that? or are you exaggerating because you lack the ability to formulate a logical response? your main problem is you seem to spend your whole time looking for posts that do not unrealistically praise the steelers in every way possible.

in the future, try to realize that not every steelers' players is a flawless god. if you dislike other people's opinions etc.. then perhaps you should ignore them or make your own message board. this way every post can look exactly the same.

Woodley is fine

so then why are LBs from the other side of the field passing him by to make the tackles? i guess it means woodley is too fast :rofl:

as of now, woodley is on pace for a 16-tackle season with zero sacks. last season he had 60 tackles and 11.5 sacks. now i realize a person like you would make an absurd excuse and say teams are creating the entire game plan around woodley, but that simply doesn't hold in the world of common sense and logic. save the gildon excuses. those didn't work then and they aren't working now. woodley has looked slow and lethargic this year. maybe he will turn it up in the next coming weeks. no one is denying he has been in coverage. IMO, his containment this year has been poor from the plays i have seen. his one-trick move to the QB is getting him nowhere yet. maybe he has just been in the wrong spot at the wrong time all season.

my comment was he has appeared slow. perhaps his added weight is the reason. he looked a more agile and speedier last season.

BlastFurnace
10-05-2009, 11:10 AM
Woodley was a millisecond from getting two sacks last night.

It's not just Woodley's issue, it's the offenses we are playing adjusting the rythm of their offense to offset our rush.

Many of our LB's are getting there a second later.

Woodley will get his.

revefsreleets
10-05-2009, 11:25 AM
Take it? Take what, your lack of reading comprehension? Errrrrr....okay, there, whatever....

Just to follow through and continue shooting down your nonsensical theory about Woodley's lack of speed, Harrison's numbers are down as well. Until last night, Harrison only had 15 tackles and 1 sack (extrapolated out would project to 5 or 6 sacks and about 78 tackles for the year, WAY off last years numbers of 101 tackles and 16 sacks), although he did have a couple forced fumbles. Silverback had a big game last night, which is proof that the defense is making adjustments to the oppositions adjustments.

If you go back and read my analysis and take off some of your blind hate, you'd see that I was clearly stating that teams were gameplanning to thwart BOTH our OLB's, and Woodley's role has changed a bit since last year. His numbers will continue to improve as we continue adjust to the new ways offenses attack our defense.