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WisconsinSteelerMan
10-05-2009, 11:44 AM
WisconsinSteelerMan officially out of lurk mode....

WOW... I was watching the game last night, and about fell out of my chair when I saw it! Pittsburgh actually brought out the I-formation last night!! How many times over the first three games of this season did we see Willie line up in the backfield alone and then run the ball into a pile of linemen? Willie had no "front man" to help open holes for him...

Last night, with Mendy in there, we lined up several times with the old "I formation" and wouldn't you know it... we busted holes open for Mendy. We broadcast to the Chargers that we were going to run it, and by God, we did it! Dared them to come after us, we did. They came, but we busted holes open. Add to the fact that Kemoatu was an absolute BEAST out there and Rashard knew who to follow.... Kemo!

Then once the run started working, the defense actually believed Ben's fake on the run and bit on it... Opened up the pass just nicely.

I for one REALLY want to see more of the I formation in future weeks. I think it is just the key for us to keep our game plan running...

Mike (I formation forever) in La Crosse, WI

P.S. - Missed you guys!!

steelreserve
10-05-2009, 11:49 AM
Who knew that running the ball out of a formation suited to the run, and with a back who attacks the line of scrimmage ... would work better than running the ball out of a finesse formation with an inconsistent back who dances around behind the line? Fascinating stuff!

It's times like this that I wonder why it took them three and a half looooong years to figure this out.

Steely McSmash
10-05-2009, 11:52 AM
They've run it a fair amount actually. Typically the opposing D knows it's a run and they stuff it pretty well.

It really works when the OL is blowing the other team out of the water so the lead blocker can go through the hole to block instead of getting stacked up which has been the typical result.

SuperSteelers
10-05-2009, 12:50 PM
WisconsinSteelerMan officially out of lurk mode....

WOW... I was watching the game last night, and about fell out of my chair when I saw it! Pittsburgh actually brought out the I-formation last night!! How many times over the first three games of this season did we see Willie line up in the backfield alone and then run the ball into a pile of linemen? Willie had no "front man" to help open holes for him...

Last night, with Mendy in there, we lined up several times with the old "I formation" and wouldn't you know it... we busted holes open for Mendy. We broadcast to the Chargers that we were going to run it, and by God, we did it! Dared them to come after us, we did. They came, but we busted holes open. Add to the fact that Kemoatu was an absolute BEAST out there and Rashard knew who to follow.... Kemo!

Then once the run started working, the defense actually believed Ben's fake on the run and bit on it... Opened up the pass just nicely.

I for one REALLY want to see more of the I formation in future weeks. I think it is just the key for us to keep our game plan running...

Mike (I formation forever) in La Crosse, WI

P.S. - Missed you guys!!

I thought the same exact thing.. even told my wife, "They're in the "I" formation!! In a couple runs last night (and about 4 beers), he looked like Jerome!

:tt02:

revefsreleets
10-05-2009, 02:13 PM
I'm SURE that Arians, being the idiot he is, had NO idea what the I-formation even was until he read about it here...

Seriously, SD is susceptible, so we took advantage. The gameplan will be different next week...

GeneralRobinson
10-05-2009, 02:15 PM
Seems like Rashard can block a little. It would be great if we can find a fullback that can also run and block so that we can line up in split backs.

SteelerFanInCA
10-05-2009, 02:23 PM
I liked seeing Legursky in the back field. We need to try that a few more times on the goal line stances.

BritishSteel
10-05-2009, 03:06 PM
The I formation, a half-back option, a huge 16-wheeler in the backfield - I could have sworn I was watching a Whiz offence!

Preacher
10-05-2009, 05:27 PM
They've run it a fair amount actually. Typically the opposing D knows it's a run and they stuff it pretty well.

It really works when the OL is blowing the other team out of the water so the lead blocker can go through the hole to block instead of getting stacked up which has been the typical result.

Thank you.

I would venture we ran the same amount of I formation plays yesterday that we did the last three weeks.

Preacher
10-05-2009, 05:30 PM
The I formation, a half-back option, a huge 16-wheeler in the backfield - I could have sworn I was watching a Whiz offence!

You know, Mendy is only 15 pounds heavier than Willie. I don't think that makes him a HUGE 16 wheeler.

Now, Jerome Bettis was about 250... 25 pounds over what Mendy is now. THAT is a huge difference!

Steelman16
10-05-2009, 05:39 PM
You know, Mendy is only 15 pounds heavier than Willie. I don't think that makes him a HUGE 16 wheeler.

Now, Jerome Bettis was about 250... 25 pounds over what Mendy is now. THAT is a huge difference!

I think he was referring to Mr. Legursky at a slight 315 lbs. :chuckle:

Preacher
10-05-2009, 05:42 PM
I think he was referring to Mr. Legursky at a slight 315 lbs. :chuckle:

:rofl:

Ok... Yeah, you got me there... Though I doubt that is a 16 wheeler... more like an 18wheeler with a second trailer attached!!!

AllD
10-05-2009, 06:58 PM
A diesel.

WisconsinSteelerMan
10-05-2009, 09:49 PM
Well, I guess it is just my perception that we have seemed to have gone away from the I-formation a significant amount over the past at least two seasons. In my opinion, I have seen quite a few looks with the RB in the backfield by himself.... way more than with the I-formation.

But I guess I must have been seeing it and imagining it...

FacemeIke
10-05-2009, 09:53 PM
We've ran the I-formation and offset I a lot more then we did last year. Maybe Arians is reading this board after all :). I love the I-formation (probably to a fault) but this is Ben's team now and Big Ben one more option to throw to when we stay out of the I-formation.

Preacher
10-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Well, I guess it is just my perception that we have seemed to have gone away from the I-formation a significant amount over the past at least two seasons. In my opinion, I have seen quite a few looks with the RB in the backfield by himself.... way more than with the I-formation.

But I guess I must have been seeing it and imagining it...

You have me interested now... do you have the previous game on tape? I have this game. I would be interested in counting up the times we line up in I form or offset I.

See how reality lines up with our perceptions (chances are, we are both wrong :chuckle:)

Give It To Abercrombie
10-05-2009, 10:23 PM
I liked seeing Legursky in the back field. We need to try that a few more times on the goal line stances.

Agreed, I liked seeing that alot. Think he did pretty well.

Steelers & I
10-05-2009, 10:36 PM
Thank you.

I would venture we ran the same amount of I formation plays yesterday that we did the last three weeks.

You're probably right but what I've DEFINITELY seen this season over last season is: The Steelers are using the I-Formation far more often when the down and distances SCREAM for it. For instance, 3rd down and 1, we're seeing the I-Formation this season when last season we probably would have seen a 4 WR package with the end result being either a sack or incomplete pass. The use of the I-Formation speaks volumes when you consider that Arians playbook used to contain like what, 1 or 2 I-Formation plays that were RARELY used? Many members of this site have called for the use of the I-Formation for as long as I've been a member here. It looks as if Tomlin had the same thought.

KeiselPower99
10-05-2009, 11:09 PM
Bring in Foster as a TE and Legursky as the FB on goal line and short yards I think it would be pretty damn beast.

LVSteelersfan
10-05-2009, 11:33 PM
Just like the Fridge. You know why we don't do the I formation when Willie is in there? Because he won't follow the fullback through the hole. He dances around and goes the wrong way. Mendy was doing it correctly. Willie is toast on this team if Mendy keeps playing this way.

Preacher
10-05-2009, 11:54 PM
You're probably right but what I've DEFINITELY seen this season over last season is: The Steelers are using the I-Formation far more often when the down and distances SCREAM for it. For instance, 3rd down and 1, we're seeing the I-Formation this season when last season we probably would have seen a 4 WR package with the end result being either a sack or incomplete pass. The use of the I-Formation speaks volumes when you consider that Arians playbook used to contain like what, 1 or 2 I-Formation plays that were RARELY used? Many members of this site have called for the use of the I-Formation for as long as I've been a member here. It looks as if Tomlin had the same thought.

I agree with you, right up to the 4 wide. I agree we are seeing a lot more I formation compared to LAST year. However, last year, we would line up with 1 back, broadcast a run, then wonder why we didn't get the run.

Had they thrown it last year, we would have gotten more first downs.

This year, we are doing both, lining up in the I more, AND going four wide and throwing it on 3rd down. I love BOTH choices. Think about it for a second. If a team brings in their run package, we can go four wide... with both our TE's. If they come out with a nickel or dime package, we can line up in the I formation. I think that was the hope with Tank... letting him go out to TE in osme of those situations.

steelwalls
10-06-2009, 12:57 AM
Who was that lineman they put in on that one run from the 'I' at full back? On that play it worked well, but I cant remember who it was....

Preacher
10-06-2009, 01:01 AM
Who was that lineman they put in on that one run from the 'I' at full back? On that play it worked well, but I cant remember who it was....

LEGURSKY!!


:chuckle:

Steelers & I
10-06-2009, 02:12 AM
I agree with you, right up to the 4 wide. I agree we are seeing a lot more I formation compared to LAST year. However, last year, we would line up with 1 back, broadcast a run, then wonder why we didn't get the run.

Had they thrown it last year, we would have gotten more first downs.

This year, we are doing both, lining up in the I more, AND going four wide and throwing it on 3rd down. I love BOTH choices. Think about it for a second. If a team brings in their run package, we can go four wide... with both our TE's. If they come out with a nickel or dime package, we can line up in the I formation. I think that was the hope with Tank... letting him go out to TE in osme of those situations.

Whatever the case may be, I think that we're finding a little less bitching about the offense as a whole. The play calling is much better this season from a "situational standpoint", the O-Line play is far superior to the offensive line play of the previous 2 seasons, and Roethlisberger is playing like, yeah I'll say it, "THE BEST QB IN THE LEAGUE." It was during the 2nd quarter versus the Chargers that I asked myself, "Who is better than Ben Roethlisberger?" I mean really, who else possesses all of his intangibles? In my opinion, he's clearly the best in the league.

As one who often complained about the offensive system last season, I must say that there's really not much to complain about this year. I believe that this offense will be amongst the tops in the league at seasons end, possibly top 5, they truly looked that good Sunday night.

Aussie_steeler
10-06-2009, 03:00 AM
Roethlisberger is playing like, yeah I'll say it, "THE BEST QB IN THE LEAGUE." It was during the 2nd quarter versus the Chargers that I asked myself, "Who is better than Ben Roethlisberger?" I mean really, who else possesses all of his intangibles? In my opinion, he's clearly the best in the league.
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We all agree here. Dont get caught listening to the commentators though. Was it Collingsworth or MIchaels who said in the coverage that Ben had now solidified his spot as the number 4 QB in the NFL

1. Brady
2. P. Manning
3. Brees
4. BIg Ben

I heard some dissent on ESPN's Pardon the Interuption tonight. Mike Wilbon openly said that the NFL has two sets of rules for QB's. One for Marquee QB's like Brady and Manning ( you know the one where they cant be touched - EVER) and the other rule where QB's could be smashed. ( we all know that Big Ben falls into that one). He applauded Rodney Harrison for his " take the skirt off Tom" comment

I go as far as to say that Big Ben is the #1 QB in the NFL for real men, the one where QB's are allowed to be hit. Dont care much for the other two who are on the protected species list.

Preacher
10-06-2009, 03:29 AM
Whatever the case may be, I think that we're finding a little less bitching about the offense as a whole. The play calling is much better this season from a "situational standpoint", the O-Line play is far superior to the offensive line play of the previous 2 seasons, and Roethlisberger is playing like, yeah I'll say it, "THE BEST QB IN THE LEAGUE." It was during the 2nd quarter versus the Chargers that I asked myself, "Who is better than Ben Roethlisberger?" I mean really, who else possesses all of his intangibles? In my opinion, he's clearly the best in the league.

As one who often complained about the offensive system last season, I must say that there's really not much to complain about this year. I believe that this offense will be amongst the tops in the league at seasons end, possibly top 5, they truly looked that good Sunday night.

It was pretty dang good. . . the previous three games showed hints of it. When that line gelled... well, we saw just how good an offense it really is. Now we just gotta make sure it stays that way.

If we can just get that defense back on track in the fourth quarter... this team will be nightmare for anyone come Dec. and Jan.

Steelers & I
10-06-2009, 03:58 AM
It was pretty dang good. . . the previous three games showed hints of it. When that line gelled... well, we saw just how good an offense it really is. Now we just gotta make sure it stays that way.

If we can just get that defense back on track in the fourth quarter... this team will be nightmare for anyone come Dec. and Jan.

Yes they did march up and down the field versus Cincinnati, I'm still clueless as to how they lost that game. I guess the numbers, 8 straight wins @ Cincy played a part in it. They were bound to lose one there sooner or later. :noidea:

Versus Chicago the offense was decent, very good if you factor in the weather and field conditions.

We all KNOW that the defense will be back on track. I mean hell, they didn't give up much against the Chargers, what was it, 252 yards of total offense? That's not a bad performance. We're all seeing just how IMPORTANT Troy Polamalu is to this defense. When he returns, things will be back to normal.

5-2 going into the bye. No doubt in my mind. :tt03:

Preacher
10-06-2009, 04:13 AM
Yes they did march up and down the field versus Cincinnati, I'm still clueless as to how they lost that game. I guess the numbers, 8 straight wins @ Cincy played a part in it. They were bound to lose one there sooner or later. :noidea:

Versus Chicago the offense was decent, very good if you factor in the weather and field conditions.

We all KNOW that the defense will be back on track. I mean hell, they didn't give up much against the Chargers, what was it, 252 yards of total offense? That's not a bad performance. We're all seeing just how IMPORTANT Troy Polamalu is to this defense. When he returns, things will be back to normal.

5-2 going into the bye. No doubt in my mind. :tt03:
Don't forget, the Bungles play the Ratbirds this week. So we will be virtually tied with one and 1 game out with the other, with three to play against them. We are RIGHT in the thick of things. I LOVE IT.

HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO!!!

Steelers & I
10-06-2009, 04:29 AM
Don't forget, the Bungles play the Ratbirds this week. So we will be virtually tied with one and 1 game out with the other, with three to play against them. We are RIGHT in the thick of things. I LOVE IT.

HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO!!!


Yes Sir, :tt03::tt04::tt02:

And once again, you chose the perfect game to attend. I would love to be there to see us kick the Bengals stinking butts.

Preacher
10-06-2009, 05:17 AM
Yes Sir, :tt03::tt04::tt02:

And once again, you chose the perfect game to attend. I would love to be there to see us kick the Bengals stinking butts.


I am looking foward to it!

I am 1-1 in games. . . was there for the great MNF butt-whooping of the Ravens, then was there when we lost to Peyton Manning and the Colts. Worse yet, I had a Colts fan sitting right behind me yelling... even worse, she was a cute 20 something blonde haired chick who had a syrupy sweet southern accent. . . . She and her dad even worked with missionaries . . . So, as the loving pastor I am... I STILL threatened to put concrete boots on her and throw her into the river outside of Heinz!

I already have a wife... That syrupy junk aint working for me anymore... ESPECIALLY from a Colts fan AT THE STADIUM.

Steelers & I
10-06-2009, 05:27 AM
I am looking foward to it!

I am 1-1 in games. . . was there for the great MNF butt-whooping of the Ravens, then was there when we lost to Peyton Manning and the Colts. Worse yet, I had a Colts fan sitting right behind me yelling... even worse, she was a cute 20 something blonde haired chick who had a syrupy sweet southern accent. . . . She and her dad even worked with missionaries . . . So, as the loving pastor I am... I STILL threatened to put concrete boots on her and throw her into the river outside of Heinz!

I already have a wife... That syrupy junk aint working for me anymore... ESPECIALLY from a Colts fan AT THE STADIUM.

Lol, they're still nice to look at. But I feel you, if she was a Colts fand, NAH! There's too many FINE looking Steelers chicks that are more worthy of eyeballing.